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		<title>By: Black Panther(Black Panther)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2012384</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Panther(Black Panther)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011742&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;husky(husky)-53&lt;/a&gt;: 


Pleased to see youre not denying it then.

By your definition, that makes him

&quot;a cheat&quot;

right ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011742" rel="nofollow">husky(husky)-53</a>: </p>
<p>Pleased to see youre not denying it then.</p>
<p>By your definition, that makes him</p>
<p>&#8220;a cheat&#8221;</p>
<p>right ?</p>
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		<title>By: husky(husky)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011742</link>
		<dc:creator>husky(husky)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is little use in squealing but one of keo&#039;s &quot;journo&#039;s&quot; pointed out how Brycie had penalised the Aussies so heavily in a previous game. But how about that they squealed to Paddy and got Brycie nobbled to be more lenient on Pocock. They knew in advance how he was going to blow.

As for Blek Panties and Burger falling over the ball; it&#039;s what McCaw does game in and game out. It&#039;s a Paddy rule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is little use in squealing but one of keo&#8217;s &#8220;journo&#8217;s&#8221; pointed out how Brycie had penalised the Aussies so heavily in a previous game. But how about that they squealed to Paddy and got Brycie nobbled to be more lenient on Pocock. They knew in advance how he was going to blow.</p>
<p>As for Blek Panties and Burger falling over the ball; it&#8217;s what McCaw does game in and game out. It&#8217;s a Paddy rule.</p>
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		<title>By: kesbok(kesbok)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011710</link>
		<dc:creator>kesbok(kesbok)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[interesting thread this but lets take a step back.  I think the real issue is the laws the IRB have put in place especially at the breakdown and ruck areas.  The refs have inconsistent days and that arguably can be down to interpretation of a law that is flawed to begin with.

Life was simple when you were abel to ruck a player out.  We had fewer  infringements at the breakdown and if you did it was easily spotted. The ball was killed less with the danger of boots flying to ruck  player out.  Less was left to interpretation.  So Bryce would rightly say I interpreted the breakdown and ruck laws in the way that that I did.  You cannot point the finger at him because the law is a useless law.  The amount of discussion and pre match discussion around this law tells you that no one is clear on this.  There is less margin for error  in interpreting what is a forward pass or not and that is where the critiscm should be directed.!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting thread this but lets take a step back.  I think the real issue is the laws the IRB have put in place especially at the breakdown and ruck areas.  The refs have inconsistent days and that arguably can be down to interpretation of a law that is flawed to begin with.</p>
<p>Life was simple when you were abel to ruck a player out.  We had fewer  infringements at the breakdown and if you did it was easily spotted. The ball was killed less with the danger of boots flying to ruck  player out.  Less was left to interpretation.  So Bryce would rightly say I interpreted the breakdown and ruck laws in the way that that I did.  You cannot point the finger at him because the law is a useless law.  The amount of discussion and pre match discussion around this law tells you that no one is clear on this.  There is less margin for error  in interpreting what is a forward pass or not and that is where the critiscm should be directed.!</p>
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		<title>By: bcoet(bcoet)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011596</link>
		<dc:creator>bcoet(bcoet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With my team, the Boks out, all the best to the All Blacks they deserve the Cup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With my team, the Boks out, all the best to the All Blacks they deserve the Cup.</p>
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		<title>By: KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011576</link>
		<dc:creator>KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011527&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bcoet(bcoet)-47&lt;/a&gt;: very true, spot on. Theyre gutless referees.

not sure who I dispise the most]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011527" rel="nofollow">bcoet(bcoet)-47</a>: very true, spot on. Theyre gutless referees.</p>
<p>not sure who I dispise the most</p>
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		<title>By: KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011572</link>
		<dc:creator>KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010587&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils(Nils)-13&lt;/a&gt;: haha, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Good chance to reverse things tho

many of us would love to see the French in the final, to strive for true redemption

However, meeting Wales would see a colorful red and black theme through the crowd in recognition of our cantabrian folk

Firstly tho, we goot get to the final, something we havent been good at since 95]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010587" rel="nofollow">Nils(Nils)-13</a>: haha, I was thinking exactly the same thing.</p>
<p>Good chance to reverse things tho</p>
<p>many of us would love to see the French in the final, to strive for true redemption</p>
<p>However, meeting Wales would see a colorful red and black theme through the crowd in recognition of our cantabrian folk</p>
<p>Firstly tho, we goot get to the final, something we havent been good at since 95</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011530</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011482&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;optiplay(optiplay)-45&lt;/a&gt;: No I don&#039;t think it was. I also don&#039;t think the hands in ruck while Burger was barely a meter from the tryline was legal too... 

And ad infinitum...

You&#039;re right it won&#039;t change anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011482" rel="nofollow">optiplay(optiplay)-45</a>: No I don&#8217;t think it was. I also don&#8217;t think the hands in ruck while Burger was barely a meter from the tryline was legal too&#8230; </p>
<p>And ad infinitum&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right it won&#8217;t change anything.</p>
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		<title>By: bcoet(bcoet)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011527</link>
		<dc:creator>bcoet(bcoet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wayne Barnes is a similar type of referee to Bryce Lawrence, he is afraid to actually referee and penalise certain offences]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne Barnes is a similar type of referee to Bryce Lawrence, he is afraid to actually referee and penalise certain offences</p>
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		<title>By: bcoet(bcoet)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011523</link>
		<dc:creator>bcoet(bcoet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barnes will NOT get the final, he has pretty much been one of the worst refs at the World Cup according to referees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barnes will NOT get the final, he has pretty much been one of the worst refs at the World Cup according to referees.</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011482</link>
		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011476&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;optiplay(optiplay)-44&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;to see paddy&#039;s face.&quot; it should read.@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-43&lt;/a&gt;: Not to labour the piont.But do you think Vickerman&#039;s clearing of Brussow was legal?Didn&#039;t see arms ( or citing ) and side entry.Not that it would change anything now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011476" rel="nofollow">optiplay(optiplay)-44</a>: &#8220;to see paddy&#8217;s face.&#8221; it should read.@<a href="#comment-2011468" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-43</a>: Not to labour the piont.But do you think Vickerman&#8217;s clearing of Brussow was legal?Didn&#8217;t see arms ( or citing ) and side entry.Not that it would change anything now.</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011476</link>
		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-43&lt;/a&gt;: Generally speaking I would prefer the AB to win . But just to Paddy&#039;s face would make it worth its while for Aussie win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011468" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-43</a>: Generally speaking I would prefer the AB to win . But just to Paddy&#8217;s face would make it worth its while for Aussie win.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011468</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game(Heavens Game)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeez wouldnt it be the sweetest thing should Australia beat the ABs next week despite having only 40% possession and 20% territory... and Pocock being MOTM... again, but this time with a Saffa ref.

By God that would be ironic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez wouldnt it be the sweetest thing should Australia beat the ABs next week despite having only 40% possession and 20% territory&#8230; and Pocock being MOTM&#8230; again, but this time with a Saffa ref.</p>
<p>By God that would be ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011463</link>
		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010647&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils(Nils)-18&lt;/a&gt;: Who lauded the ref as the fairest. ??Daddy O&#039;Brien did . Certainly not the Saffas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010647" rel="nofollow">Nils(Nils)-18</a>: Who lauded the ref as the fairest. ??Daddy O&#8217;Brien did . Certainly not the Saffas.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler(TheTackler)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011405</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler(TheTackler)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mcclanbwkrau(mcclanbwkrau)-34&lt;/a&gt;: A real test has both sides with single-digit scores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2011104" rel="nofollow">mcclanbwkrau(mcclanbwkrau)-34</a>: A real test has both sides with single-digit scores.</p>
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		<title>By: raven(raven)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/10/rich-reward-for-joubert/#comment-2011401</link>
		<dc:creator>raven(raven)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010757&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;danuk(danuk)-29&lt;/a&gt;: 

If NZ had lost a WC game due to crap referring - would Paddy have issued some sort of statement? You bet.

The silence is deafening!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010757" rel="nofollow">danuk(danuk)-29</a>: </p>
<p>If NZ had lost a WC game due to <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> referring &#8211; would Paddy have issued some sort of statement? You bet.</p>
<p>The silence is deafening!</p>
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		<title>By: raven(raven)</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven(raven)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010939&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YoMama(YoMama)-32&lt;/a&gt;: 

Bullshit - top flight referees are not oblivious of the laws - dig deeper - all will eventually be revealed. Paddy has tried to screw the &#039;&#039;yarpies&#039;&#039; before - why not now again? They fancy their chances against Aus (in WC games), more than the Boks. Sort of playing the percentages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010939" rel="nofollow">YoMama(YoMama)-32</a>: </p>
<p>Bullshit &#8211; top flight referees are not oblivious of the laws &#8211; dig deeper &#8211; all will eventually be revealed. Paddy has tried to screw the &#8221;yarpies&#8221; before &#8211; why not now again? They fancy their chances against Aus (in WC games), more than the Boks. Sort of playing the percentages.</p>
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		<title>By: raven(raven)</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven(raven)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon Keo and co - somewhere out there there&#039;s a communication between Paddy and Bryce - just go out and find it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Keo and co &#8211; somewhere out there there&#8217;s a communication between Paddy and Bryce &#8211; just go out and find it!</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
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		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010602&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nils(Nils)-15&lt;/a&gt;: Was Vickerman cited for the hit on Brussow?Reminded me somehow of the Bakkies incident in the BL tour . Or am I wrong?Looked to me a bit illegal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010602" rel="nofollow">Nils(Nils)-15</a>: Was Vickerman cited for the hit on Brussow?Reminded me somehow of the Bakkies incident in the BL tour . Or am I wrong?Looked to me a bit illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
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		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-11&lt;/a&gt;: Absolutely spot on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010431" rel="nofollow">once more unto the breach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-11</a>: Absolutely spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: optiplay(optiplay)</title>
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		<dc:creator>optiplay(optiplay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010290&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hendrikp(hendrikp)-2&lt;/a&gt;: Will be in the final.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2010290" rel="nofollow">hendrikp(hendrikp)-2</a>: Will be in the final.</p>
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