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		<title>By: Skeppie(Skeppie)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/12/attacking-ails-at-heart-of-bok-failure/#comment-2014779</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie(Skeppie)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014294&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hurricane(Hurricane)-66&lt;/a&gt;: Come on that&#039;s not fair, trawl any blog site and you will get some tools who have no rugby knowledge and talk out of their behinds but a lot of us saffa&#039;s are not maoning and are trying to take this on the chin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014294" rel="nofollow">Hurricane(Hurricane)-66</a>: Come on that&#8217;s not fair, trawl any blog site and you will get some tools who have no rugby knowledge and talk out of their behinds but a lot of us saffa&#8217;s are not maoning and are trying to take this on the chin.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeppie(Skeppie)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/12/attacking-ails-at-heart-of-bok-failure/#comment-2014771</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeppie(Skeppie)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014317&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-69&lt;/a&gt;: Geez BP, I have been reading this website everyday for the past five years or so and I have mostly enjoyed your typical Kiwi honesty but that statement is a bit harsh.  While I am also getting sick of our moaning (I am sure you know what&#039;s it&#039;s like to be this gutted) to say that the reffing was not poor is totally incorrect.  Pococks hand in after a ruck was formed 1m from their line?  In fact Pococks hands in all day after rucks were formed not before.  I don&#039;t expect you kiwi&#039;s to tolerate our whining after you guys copped heaps in 2007 but at least stick to the honesty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014317" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-69</a>: Geez BP, I have been reading this website everyday for the past five years or so and I have mostly enjoyed your typical Kiwi honesty but that statement is a bit harsh.  While I am also getting sick of our moaning (I am sure you know what&#8217;s it&#8217;s like to be this gutted) to say that the reffing was not poor is totally incorrect.  Pococks hand in after a ruck was formed 1m from their line?  In fact Pococks hands in all day after rucks were formed not before.  I don&#8217;t expect you kiwi&#8217;s to tolerate our whining after you guys copped heaps in 2007 but at least stick to the honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy2pie(tommy2pie)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>click&#8230; ALL</p>
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		<title>By: Black Panther(Black Panther)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/12/attacking-ails-at-heart-of-bok-failure/#comment-2014398</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Panther(Black Panther)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A.Watson

B.Lawrence &quot;allowed a free-for-all&quot;

ALL


has it *clicked* yet, Ladies ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.Watson</p>
<p>B.Lawrence &#8220;allowed a free-for-all&#8221;</p>
<p>ALL</p>
<p>has it *clicked* yet, Ladies ?</p>
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		<title>By: Black Panther(Black Panther)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Panther(Black Panther)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014333&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cambok(cambok)-73&lt;/a&gt;: 


and you are bl00dy well right about the &#039;pen to go up bu 9-8&#039; - I read that wrong off the RWC-app thingy. It most certainly was a DG by Steyn.

Notwithstanding that, Steyn DID kick a pen to go 6-8 and SA WERE awarded 2 pens in the 2ndH (on 51 and 55mins).

The point I was trying to make is that SA were awarded penalties in the 2ndH - hardly an indication of unfair treatment by Lawrence. This contrasts, starkly, with Barnes in Cardiff&#039;07, the very point I was trying to make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014333" rel="nofollow">cambok(cambok)-73</a>: </p>
<p>and you are bl00dy well right about the &#8216;pen to go up bu 9-8&#8242; &#8211; I read that wrong off the RWC-app thingy. It most certainly was a DG by Steyn.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding that, Steyn DID kick a pen to go 6-8 and SA WERE awarded 2 pens in the 2ndH (on 51 and 55mins).</p>
<p>The point I was trying to make is that SA were awarded penalties in the 2ndH &#8211; hardly an indication of unfair treatment by Lawrence. This contrasts, starkly, with Barnes in Cardiff&#8217;07, the very point I was trying to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane(Hurricane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane(Hurricane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014357&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)-77&lt;/a&gt;: 
Clap Clap Clap, excellent post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014357" rel="nofollow">Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)-77</a>:<br />
Clap Clap Clap, excellent post.</p>
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		<title>By: Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having watched the game just now I have no idea how the Boks lost it. It was there for the taking. I&#039;ve never seen Aus get so completely and utterly dominated. Had we some attacking nous we would&#039;ve smashed them. The Wallabies were very lucky to win that game. 

We can&#039;t blame Bryce Lawrence. He played a part but we had so many chances. If FdP had held onto ball as he went over the tryline it would be the Boks in the semis now. We lost that game because we have no decent backline and no attacking strategy. I don&#039;t understand why we didn&#039;t just go for another drop goal. Another 2 drop goals and then a try to land that killer blow. I think there was nerves and desperations on both sides but the way I see it is that some Boks playing for their careers just gave up in the end. Habana shouldn&#039;t have been taken off. I was disappointed in Fourie. JdV had a good game but he is terrible at hardly ever passing or offloading in the tackle. 

If you swapped the Boks for the ABs with that amount of dominance, territory and possession they would&#039;ve put 40 past Aus. We have to put our hands up here. We failed to adapt to Lawrence&#039;s reffing of the breakdown coupled with a poor attacking strategy. The Boks threw this game away. The ref cannot take the blame here. Aus quite simply played a more intelligent game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having watched the game just now I have no idea how the Boks lost it. It was there for the taking. I&#8217;ve never seen Aus get so completely and utterly dominated. Had we some attacking nous we would&#8217;ve smashed them. The Wallabies were very lucky to win that game. </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t blame Bryce Lawrence. He played a part but we had so many chances. If FdP had held onto ball as he went over the tryline it would be the Boks in the semis now. We lost that game because we have no decent backline and no attacking strategy. I don&#8217;t understand why we didn&#8217;t just go for another drop goal. Another 2 drop goals and then a try to land that killer blow. I think there was nerves and desperations on both sides but the way I see it is that some Boks playing for their careers just gave up in the end. Habana shouldn&#8217;t have been taken off. I was disappointed in Fourie. JdV had a good game but he is terrible at hardly ever passing or offloading in the tackle. </p>
<p>If you swapped the Boks for the ABs with that amount of dominance, territory and possession they would&#8217;ve put 40 past Aus. We have to put our hands up here. We failed to adapt to Lawrence&#8217;s reffing of the breakdown coupled with a poor attacking strategy. The Boks threw this game away. The ref cannot take the blame here. Aus quite simply played a more intelligent game.</p>
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		<title>By: jeest(jeest)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014350&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-75&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah you make a good point. Totally agree.

Most of my animosity towards Bryce has built up over a few seasons - it certainly isn&#039;t based on his game on the weekend. In fact, I think, it was one of his more even performances. Not that it was good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014350" rel="nofollow">bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-75</a>: Yeah you make a good point. Totally agree.</p>
<p>Most of my animosity towards Bryce has built up over a few seasons &#8211; it certainly isn&#8217;t based on his game on the weekend. In fact, I think, it was one of his more even performances. Not that it was good.</p>
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		<title>By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014323&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jeest(jeest)-70&lt;/a&gt;: 

Adapt or die... when someone who I don&#039;t rate at all in the modern game (Naas Botha) can come out at half time and say...

&quot;Right chaps, you&#039;ve seen how the ref is policing the break-down... so damn welll adapt and protect your ball more, up the ante with clearing out and counter-rucking... and play the breakdown the same way the Aussies are...&quot;

... Then you&#039;d damn well think the Bok brains-trust could see the same thing... how obvious was it at half time... how obvious was it Joubert let things go too in the Welsh game... not that obvious to the brains-trust though...

Adapt or Die in a RWC... there are ALWAYS going to be many dubious ref calls or lack of calls...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014323" rel="nofollow">jeest(jeest)-70</a>: </p>
<p>Adapt or die&#8230; when someone who I don&#8217;t rate at all in the modern game (Naas Botha) can come out at half time and say&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Right chaps, you&#8217;ve seen how the ref is policing the break-down&#8230; so damn welll adapt and protect your ball more, up the ante with clearing out and counter-rucking&#8230; and play the breakdown the same way the Aussies are&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; Then you&#8217;d damn well think the Bok brains-trust could see the same thing&#8230; how obvious was it at half time&#8230; how obvious was it Joubert let things go too in the Welsh game&#8230; not that obvious to the brains-trust though&#8230;</p>
<p>Adapt or Die in a RWC&#8230; there are ALWAYS going to be many dubious ref calls or lack of calls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014260&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diewareouboet(diewareouboet)-64&lt;/a&gt;: 

Aussies 251 tackles @ 81% success rate
Boks 69 tackles @ 65% success rate

Sorry I&#039;m not buying that the Bok&#039;s (Stormer&#039;s) defence was any good at all...

A plus this RWC was the temperament shown against the filthy Samoans, the downside their soft ruck attendance on own ball allowing Pocock free reign... the Aussies did to Brussouw exactly what Boks should have done to Pocock all game...

3 heavy men clearing out at ruck at all times, Vickerman&#039;s cheap-shot that put Brussouw out of the game was vintage Bakkies!

Japies are too staid in their thinking as per normal... ie one fetcher negates another fetcher... it&#039;s rubbish and I&#039;ve said it before... Aussies don&#039;t buy into that and the T5 or anyone else arriving at the breakdown simply smash and clearout anyone threatening their ball... Bok&#039;s left this to one man... and he had free reign all game (ref or no ref)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014260" rel="nofollow">diewareouboet(diewareouboet)-64</a>: </p>
<p>Aussies 251 tackles @ 81% success rate<br />
Boks 69 tackles @ 65% success rate</p>
<p>Sorry I&#8217;m not buying that the Bok&#8217;s (Stormer&#8217;s) defence was any good at all&#8230;</p>
<p>A plus this RWC was the temperament shown against the filthy Samoans, the downside their soft ruck attendance on own ball allowing Pocock free reign&#8230; the Aussies did to Brussouw exactly what Boks should have done to Pocock all game&#8230;</p>
<p>3 heavy men clearing out at ruck at all times, Vickerman&#8217;s cheap-shot that put Brussouw out of the game was vintage Bakkies!</p>
<p>Japies are too staid in their thinking as per normal&#8230; ie one fetcher negates another fetcher&#8230; it&#8217;s rubbish and I&#8217;ve said it before&#8230; Aussies don&#8217;t buy into that and the T5 or anyone else arriving at the breakdown simply smash and clearout anyone threatening their ball&#8230; Bok&#8217;s left this to one man&#8230; and he had free reign all game (ref or no ref)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cambok(cambok)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cambok(cambok)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014288&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-65&lt;/a&gt;:  Remember that old saying BP, &quot; facts are sacred but comment is free.&quot;  It&#039;s a small point but in your over-written diatribe, lecturing and denigrating Bok supporters, there is an error of fact. You state:
&quot;Did the Boks go an entire 2ndH without ONE penalty awarded to them, like ABs at Cardiff ? No. In fact, they were awarded 2 penalties in kickable positions, both converted, including the 2nd penalty which put SA in from 9-8 having trailed 3-8 at HT.&quot;
However here&#039;s an extract from many &quot;as it happened&quot; records of the match. This one is from TVNZ and reads: 
&quot;59min Aus 8 SA 9
&quot;Steyn lands a dropgoal. Straight down the middle and they&#039;re in front for the first time.&quot;
As I said, it&#039;s a small point but if you want to point the finger and criticise Bok fans&#039; comments, you need to ensure that any statements you make are 100%  correct. That&#039;s assuming, of course, that you know the difference between a penalty goal and drop goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014288" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-65</a>:  Remember that old saying BP, &#8221; facts are sacred but comment is free.&#8221;  It&#8217;s a small point but in your over-written diatribe, lecturing and denigrating Bok supporters, there is an error of fact. You state:<br />
&#8220;Did the Boks go an entire 2ndH without ONE penalty awarded to them, like ABs at Cardiff ? No. In fact, they were awarded 2 penalties in kickable positions, both converted, including the 2nd penalty which put SA in from 9-8 having trailed 3-8 at HT.&#8221;<br />
However here&#8217;s an extract from many &#8220;as it happened&#8221; records of the match. This one is from TVNZ and reads:<br />
&#8220;59min Aus 8 SA 9<br />
&#8220;Steyn lands a dropgoal. Straight down the middle and they&#8217;re in front for the first time.&#8221;<br />
As I said, it&#8217;s a small point but if you want to point the finger and criticise Bok fans&#8217; comments, you need to ensure that any statements you make are 100%  correct. That&#8217;s assuming, of course, that you know the difference between a penalty goal and drop goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Droldief(Droldief)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2011/10/12/attacking-ails-at-heart-of-bok-failure/#comment-2014330</link>
		<dc:creator>Droldief(Droldief)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014317&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-69&lt;/a&gt;: Bryce Lawrence is not the reason Boks lost, though some of the decisions irked us a bit for sure. I just hope Craig Joubert doesn&#039;t pi$$ off any Aussie or Kiwi fans on Sunday night.. Wouldn&#039;t like you guys to blame a ref like we do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014317" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-69</a>: Bryce Lawrence is not the reason Boks lost, though some of the decisions irked us a bit for sure. I just hope Craig Joubert doesn&#8217;t pi$$ off any Aussie or Kiwi fans on Sunday night.. Wouldn&#8217;t like you guys to blame a ref like we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samba Bok(JayDaFiveOh)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2013645&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-31&lt;/a&gt;: Unfortunately in SA, coaches and fans alike are obsessed with size. Once we got over this obsession we can start selecting players who genuinely deserve to be there and have the right skill set and not based on how they weigh and how big they look. 

Spies is a perfect example. Massive hulking piece of meat and more tender than the finest ribeye. Lambie&#039;s defence is harder than Spies. He goes down like a sack of sh!t everytime. He should be much stronger for someone his size. I would&#039;ve expected Spies to be much more of a handful but he is easier to bring down than JPP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2013645" rel="nofollow">mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-31</a>: Unfortunately in SA, coaches and fans alike are obsessed with size. Once we got over this obsession we can start selecting players who genuinely deserve to be there and have the right skill set and not based on how they weigh and how big they look. </p>
<p>Spies is a perfect example. Massive hulking piece of meat and more tender than the finest ribeye. Lambie&#8217;s defence is harder than Spies. He goes down like a sack of <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> everytime. He should be much stronger for someone his size. I would&#8217;ve expected Spies to be much more of a handful but he is easier to bring down than JPP.</p>
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		<title>By: jeest(jeest)</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeest(jeest)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014317&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-69&lt;/a&gt;: I watched the game twice last night - breakdown was a free for all. Decisions could have been given all over the place to both sides. 

Some ridiculous ruling both ways - still not sure how we got the scrum feed when Habana knocked down a Cooper pass when the Aussies were on attack. 

So in summary - Referee was atrocious and deserves to be attacked - but by both teams.

Reason we lost could be down to a number of points but dropping the ball on three separate occasions  with the try line in sight was probably one of the main ones. Can&#039;t blame the ref for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014317" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-69</a>: I watched the game twice last night &#8211; breakdown was a free for all. Decisions could have been given all over the place to both sides. </p>
<p>Some ridiculous ruling both ways &#8211; still not sure how we got the scrum feed when Habana knocked down a Cooper pass when the Aussies were on attack. </p>
<p>So in summary &#8211; Referee was atrocious and deserves to be attacked &#8211; but by both teams.</p>
<p>Reason we lost could be down to a number of points but dropping the ball on three separate occasions  with the try line in sight was probably one of the main ones. Can&#8217;t blame the ref for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Panther(Black Panther)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Panther(Black Panther)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;out wide(out wide)-67&lt;/a&gt;: 


Im yet to see ONE incident or decision where the Boks can hold up and blame the ref/B.Lawrence. Not ONE.

Ive watched the match 3 times.

Actually, I think its exciting when the breakdown has players flying in. As long as they stay on their feet and dont come in from the side, it resembles the modern version of the old-school &#039;ruck&#039; with fwds going hammer&#039;n&#039;tongs. It was an excellent match, now just soured by a team and nation completely unable to accept defeat without blame.


No Tries scored from fwd-passes.

PenaltieS awarded in kickable positions.

No sympathy here, none whatsoever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014309" rel="nofollow">out wide(out wide)-67</a>: </p>
<p>Im yet to see ONE incident or decision where the Boks can hold up and blame the ref/B.Lawrence. Not ONE.</p>
<p>Ive watched the match 3 times.</p>
<p>Actually, I think its exciting when the breakdown has players flying in. As long as they stay on their feet and dont come in from the side, it resembles the modern version of the old-school &#8216;ruck&#8217; with fwds going hammer&#8217;n'tongs. It was an excellent match, now just soured by a team and nation completely unable to accept defeat without blame.</p>
<p>No Tries scored from fwd-passes.</p>
<p>PenaltieS awarded in kickable positions.</p>
<p>No sympathy here, none whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: captain fantail(captain fantail)</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain fantail(captain fantail)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014309&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;out wide(out wide)-67&lt;/a&gt;: totally agree. Pretty disgusting this whole thing with Smit. As i said earlier he as captain is as responsible for guiding his ship on to the reef. They have openly admitted they were( the senior players) in charge.
This is also a team that got really stretched by Wales and Samoa so to play the Wannabees was always going to be a step up....but as you say, after the first step there was no more plan. Tough titties as far as I&#039;m concerned.
BOKS ITS TIME TO SWEEP THE CLOSET OUT AND START OVER WITH BETTER COACH AND MANAGEMENT AND CAPTAINCY!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014309" rel="nofollow">out wide(out wide)-67</a>: totally agree. Pretty disgusting this whole thing with Smit. As i said earlier he as captain is as responsible for guiding his ship on to the reef. They have openly admitted they were( the senior players) in charge.<br />
This is also a team that got really stretched by Wales and Samoa so to play the Wannabees was always going to be a step up&#8230;.but as you say, after the first step there was no more plan. Tough titties as far as I&#8217;m concerned.<br />
BOKS ITS TIME TO SWEEP THE CLOSET OUT AND START OVER WITH BETTER COACH AND MANAGEMENT AND CAPTAINCY!!</p>
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		<title>By: out wide(out wide)</title>
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		<dc:creator>out wide(out wide)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014288&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-65&lt;/a&gt;: BP there are some on other Saffer rugga blogsites who would agree with you. The unemotional response to the loss to the Aussies is that the Bok players and coaching staff are as much to blame as the ref because they went onto the field without  a plan B,  executed their gameplan poorly, failed to protect possession of the ball because of poor ball handling skills and showed an inability to adapt to the referee&#039;s interpretations at the breakdowns. 

I guess the rest of the world is going to tire of our tirade and just like the kiwis in post 2007, we along with the less than perfect A Watson will be told to get a life and move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014288" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-65</a>: BP there are some on other Saffer rugga blogsites who would agree with you. The unemotional response to the loss to the Aussies is that the Bok players and coaching staff are as much to blame as the ref because they went onto the field without  a plan B,  executed their gameplan poorly, failed to protect possession of the ball because of poor ball handling skills and showed an inability to adapt to the referee&#8217;s interpretations at the breakdowns. </p>
<p>I guess the rest of the world is going to tire of our tirade and just like the kiwis in post 2007, we along with the less than perfect A Watson will be told to get a life and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane(Hurricane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurricane(Hurricane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014288&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Black Panther(Black Panther)-65&lt;/a&gt;: 
two faced a$$holes.
Where were these guys in 2007?
It seems if they are not happy with officials they will seek action. Why now and not the other 20 odd times SA has lost a game in the last 4 years. Going by posts on here the refs are to blame for all SA losses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014288" rel="nofollow">Black Panther(Black Panther)-65</a>:<br />
two faced a$$holes.<br />
Where were these guys in 2007?<br />
It seems if they are not happy with officials they will seek action. Why now and not the other 20 odd times SA has lost a game in the last 4 years. Going by posts on here the refs are to blame for all SA losses.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Panther(Black Panther)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Panther(Black Panther)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely sickening this attacking and blaming Bryce for the Bok loss vs Aus. This after 4 years of mocking Kiwis for the aftermath from Cardiff&#039;07. What are the similarities ?



Did the AB Capt did point any fingers at Barnes ? NO, unlike Smit, within hours of defeat.

And did the Aussies score a Try from a fwd-pass (like France at Cardiff) ? No.

Did the Boks go an entire 2ndH without ONE penalty awarded to them, like ABs at Cardiff ? No. In fact, they were awarded 2 penalties in kickable positions, both converted, including the 2nd penalty which put SA in from 9-8 having trailed 3-8 at HT.

Did the Boks score atleast ONE try from their wealth of possession &amp; territory, like the ABs did in Cardiff ? No. 

Did the Boks score a 2ndH DG despite not having their flyhalf injured (DC) – let alone the reserve-flyhalf (N.Evans) injured as well ? No. They ended the match with 3 x fit flyhalfs (M.Steyn, B.James, P.Lambie).


soooooo NO EXCUSES......?

again, NO

and they just dont stop. Now SA referees are in on it too - remember A.Watson who did his very best to keep Aus in the RWC 2003 Final with terrible rulings at the scrum ?  Line up the apologists, one and all....


&quot;New Zealand rugby referee Bryce Lawrence continues to cop widespread criticism for his performance in the South Africa-Australia World Cup quarterfinal last Sunday.

South African referees manager and former test referee Andre Watson is the latest to put the boot in, saying he was surprised by the Lawrence&#039;s performance in Australia&#039;s 11-9 win in Wellington.

He also said that the South African referees association will aim to take action against Lawrence.

&#039;&#039;His opening game [at the World Cup] was outstanding, I had no problem with his appointment, but (in the quarterfinal) he allowed a free-for-all, giving (David) Pocock a field day,&#039;&#039; Watson told a Cape Town radio station.

&#039;&#039;It&#039;s not what you would expect from a referee of his calibre. He didn&#039;t referee the breakdown the way he was supposed to. He just didn&#039;t step in.&#039;&#039;

The breakdown was a mess at stages during the match, and both sides expressed dissatisfaction post-match. Naturally South Africa reacted most angrily, with retiring captain John Smit saying he was delighted he would no longer have to be refereed by the New Zealander.

Rugby fans in the Republic have united against Lawrence, and a Facebook page titled &#039;Petition To Stop Bryce Lawrence Ever Reffing A Rugby Game Again&#039; has attracted an incredible 64,827 &#039;likes&#039;, as of 9am today.

There are also a handful of other anti-Lawrence pages on the social networking site.

South Africans accused Lawrence of getting several key decisions wrong, and allowing Wallabies openside Pocock to illegally spoil the Springboks ball and flow in a match they lost despite an overwhelming advantage in possession and territory.

Watson believes the Kiwi whistleblower, who is now to South African fans what Englishman Wayne Barnes was to New Zealand supporters four year ago after the All Blacks&#039; quarterfinal exit against France, will be punished in some way.

&#039;&#039;He will be punished, but that&#039;s up to the IRB (International Rugby Board). I do not believe we will see him in any Rugby World Cup again,&#039;&#039; Watson said.

&#039;&#039;It&#039;s done and dusted now, but we (South African referees association) will be taking action. We want to make sure it doesn&#039;t happen again.&#039;&#039;


sickening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely sickening this attacking and blaming Bryce for the Bok loss vs Aus. This after 4 years of mocking Kiwis for the aftermath from Cardiff&#8217;07. What are the similarities ?</p>
<p>Did the AB Capt did point any fingers at Barnes ? NO, unlike Smit, within hours of defeat.</p>
<p>And did the Aussies score a Try from a fwd-pass (like France at Cardiff) ? No.</p>
<p>Did the Boks go an entire 2ndH without ONE penalty awarded to them, like ABs at Cardiff ? No. In fact, they were awarded 2 penalties in kickable positions, both converted, including the 2nd penalty which put SA in from 9-8 having trailed 3-8 at HT.</p>
<p>Did the Boks score atleast ONE try from their wealth of possession &amp; territory, like the ABs did in Cardiff ? No. </p>
<p>Did the Boks score a 2ndH DG despite not having their flyhalf injured (DC) – let alone the reserve-flyhalf (N.Evans) injured as well ? No. They ended the match with 3 x fit flyhalfs (M.Steyn, B.James, P.Lambie).</p>
<p>soooooo NO EXCUSES&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>again, NO</p>
<p>and they just dont stop. Now SA referees are in on it too &#8211; remember A.Watson who did his very best to keep Aus in the RWC 2003 Final with terrible rulings at the scrum ?  Line up the apologists, one and all&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;New Zealand rugby referee Bryce Lawrence continues to cop widespread criticism for his performance in the South Africa-Australia World Cup quarterfinal last Sunday.</p>
<p>South African referees manager and former test referee Andre Watson is the latest to put the boot in, saying he was surprised by the Lawrence&#8217;s performance in Australia&#8217;s 11-9 win in Wellington.</p>
<p>He also said that the South African referees association will aim to take action against Lawrence.</p>
<p>&#8221;His opening game [at the World Cup] was outstanding, I had no problem with his appointment, but (in the quarterfinal) he allowed a free-for-all, giving (David) Pocock a field day,&#8221; Watson told a Cape Town radio station.</p>
<p>&#8221;It&#8217;s not what you would expect from a referee of his calibre. He didn&#8217;t referee the breakdown the way he was supposed to. He just didn&#8217;t step in.&#8221;</p>
<p>The breakdown was a mess at stages during the match, and both sides expressed dissatisfaction post-match. Naturally South Africa reacted most angrily, with retiring captain John Smit saying he was delighted he would no longer have to be refereed by the New Zealander.</p>
<p>Rugby fans in the Republic have united against Lawrence, and a Facebook page titled &#8216;Petition To Stop Bryce Lawrence Ever Reffing A Rugby Game Again&#8217; has attracted an incredible 64,827 &#8216;likes&#8217;, as of 9am today.</p>
<p>There are also a handful of other anti-Lawrence pages on the social networking site.</p>
<p>South Africans accused Lawrence of getting several key decisions wrong, and allowing Wallabies openside Pocock to illegally spoil the Springboks ball and flow in a match they lost despite an overwhelming advantage in possession and territory.</p>
<p>Watson believes the Kiwi whistleblower, who is now to South African fans what Englishman Wayne Barnes was to New Zealand supporters four year ago after the All Blacks&#8217; quarterfinal exit against France, will be punished in some way.</p>
<p>&#8221;He will be punished, but that&#8217;s up to the IRB (International Rugby Board). I do not believe we will see him in any Rugby World Cup again,&#8221; Watson said.</p>
<p>&#8221;It&#8217;s done and dusted now, but we (South African referees association) will be taking action. We want to make sure it doesn&#8217;t happen again.&#8221;</p>
<p>sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: diewareouboet(diewareouboet)</title>
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		<dc:creator>diewareouboet(diewareouboet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2014158&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-62&lt;/a&gt;: 
Yes, given the situation where the ref refused to give penalties for blatant infringements we should have gone for drop goals. FDP should have shown better leadership here. About 12 mins from the end with the Boks 9-8 ahead and about 10m from the Aussie line one can see MS dropping back in the pocket for a drop goal and sticking out his arm like he did with the first drop but FDP chose to pass to Hougaard. Shortly after this Pocock again pilfered the ball.

The romantic notion of ball-in-hand run them off their feet only works against weak oposition or with quick turn over ball. Even for the talented AB&#039;s.

Our game plan looked suspiciously like that of the Stormers. On the plus side good defence and dominance up front, but blunt on the attack. Too many forwards (especially Schalk) in the back line who look spectacular with the ball in hand but does very little damage. Get speedsters running at slow forwards and you&#039;re in business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2014158" rel="nofollow">bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-62</a>:<br />
Yes, given the situation where the ref refused to give penalties for blatant infringements we should have gone for drop goals. FDP should have shown better leadership here. About 12 mins from the end with the Boks 9-8 ahead and about 10m from the Aussie line one can see MS dropping back in the pocket for a drop goal and sticking out his arm like he did with the first drop but FDP chose to pass to Hougaard. Shortly after this Pocock again pilfered the ball.</p>
<p>The romantic notion of ball-in-hand run them off their feet only works against weak oposition or with quick turn over ball. Even for the talented AB&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Our game plan looked suspiciously like that of the Stormers. On the plus side good defence and dominance up front, but blunt on the attack. Too many forwards (especially Schalk) in the back line who look spectacular with the ball in hand but does very little damage. Get speedsters running at slow forwards and you&#8217;re in business.</p>
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