KeoTV: Meyer’s the man

KeoTV: Meyer’s the man

12 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE says it’s Heyneke Meyer’s time to coach the Springboks.


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  • 101.Helen: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-96:

    100%
    Would just replace vd heever with Kirchner

  • 102.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-100:

    Coetzee is such a mediocre choice. Here we go again.

  • 103.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-93: it was RFU chairman Martyn Thomas who said that, he is supposedly in charge at the moment and has given his backing to Johnson until 2015. However, Thomas’s hold on his own position is perilious having already had two no-confidence votes against him. Johnson may well resign of his own volition.

    Also, what Bagel said, well done for not taking the racist bait, you shouldn’t have to read that ****.

  • 104.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-99: Hoskins admitted that Snor’s appointment was not only for rugby reasons – I guess SARU needs to accept results based on something other than rugby wins? We do reap what we sow

  • 105.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:51 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-102:

    Them’s the choices.

    Doesn’t have me jumping up and down either.

  • 106.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:53 am

    @Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-97: Too true, truth be told if you look at our player pool, school set-up, facilities, financial clout etc we should also be superior to the AB’s. Clearly since readmission we have not been, we need to ask ourselves why. Is it the coaches we select, our players mind sets, structure? We need to acheive excellence, anything else would be a waste of our potential.

  • 107.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:53 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-105: surely Erasmus is in the running?

  • 108.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

    @Skeppie(Skeppie)-106: I reckon we lose some serious talent after highschool and they are basically lost to the game. I am based in Limpopo and school rugby showcases some really amazing talent! I have seen black players of such quality that would blow the minds of scouts and blow away the need for the “quota” debate. Sadly, they are not spotted and melt away into mediocrity.

  • 109.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-102:

    Your man WONT take the job.

    If he really wanted a challenge and to serve his country then he would.

    He would now have the job and room to manouvre as he pleases.He would live and die by his sword. If he chooses Bulls then we must respect his choice.

    Allister Coetzee is the next best choice within SA.

    Otherwise we have to go foreign which will be a difficult task in itself looking at the dynamics that exist in SA rugby landscape.

    Here we go again blah blah blah.Can only play the cards you have at your disposal. If Meyer chooses not to apply then so be it. In another 4 years he may get it or may not get it.His Bulls dynasty may have gone up in flames or not(without Du Preez,Matfield,bakkies,Guthro etc).

    This may be his last chance.

  • 110.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:57 am

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-96: no way, that is a GREAT pool of talent. give meyer the job! and let him choose his own assistants too!

  • 111.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:58 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-107:

    so they say but I have my doubts.

    he hates dealing with the media, I can’t see someone like that wanting the job.

    we shall see.

  • 112.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:59 am

    Tired of this speculation sh*t.
    Smal is contracted to Ireland till 2013. All good coaches are already contracted and will play the waiting game for the next 4 years.
    Heneke is the architect of Skop ‘n Jag so he will add more of the same. He says he has a new philosophy going forward but it will take a while to work effectively.
    AC to me is not an option.

    These are the top three candidates and it looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.

  • 113.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 10:59 am

    The new glass-roofed stadium in NZ would be perfect for Rassie in the 2012 3N. He can watch the game from right above the center spot!

  • 114.Helen: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:01 am

    Heyneke does not have a great media personality.
    He stutters and he battles with English. Also seems to get himself tied in knots when he tries to explain his opinions, like he’s angry with himself.
    He’s bound to drop some pearls which will be hits on youtube

  • 115.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

    Is there no room, as assistant coaches, for the likes of Chean Roux or Kevin Foote? They’ve done incredible work at Varsity Cup level. And, alongside an experienced head coach, either of them could add the new dimension that is sorely needed. Just a suggestion.

  • 116.Helen: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

    Mitchell and Mallet are probably the best qualified options of the available coaches

  • 117.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:03 am

    @Helen(Helen)-114: If he can dodge biblical references and add 40+40 we have already made progress.

  • 118.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:03 am

    @Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-108: Thats what worries me about our structures, we almost have too many resources and have lost the need to nurture all of our talent. Think about how little the Aussies have. Take their population, strip away League and Aussie rules and you can appreciate how well they do with such a limited player base. Makes me wonder how bad our set up actually is if we can take all we have and still not be clearly superior to them

  • 119.Helen: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:03 am

    I can just imagine the scene:

    After a smoky room meeting with Cheeky and Luke, Heyneke accosts Keo in the corridor and tells him the world needs more people like him.

  • 120.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:04 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-110:

    Yeah thats what i say

    BUT

    Meyer may fear unfamiliar ground… he went to Leceister with little success after they had been the most dominant side in England..(Granted his wife’s illness was unfortunate & may have affected him adversely,I dont know.)But he failed there.

    Dont know…Ball in his court.

  • 121.Helen: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:04 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-115:

    Hmmm… Kevin Foote?
    Should be in the running, I agree

  • 122.Bagel: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:06 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-99: The Boks cannot afford the horrendous results the Bulls experienced under Heyneke in that ‘building’ process. He had a system that he needed to drill into his players and he took a very long time to do it and had the most talented Bull’s generation at his disposal. He’s going to have to get results fast with players from different Unions with different styles and judging by their team now, it’s likely few of them will come from the Bulls.

  • 123.Skeppie: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:06 am

    @Helen(Helen)-116: I am very pro Heyneke Meyer but jeez I reckon John Mitchell would also be a great choice. His rugby knowledge is excellent and I think his coaching style is ideal for our players.

  • 124.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:07 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-115:

    come now.

    this isn’t SA’s Got Talent.

    that’s like Toks singing at Covent Garden.

  • 125.once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once more...: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:07 am

    @Helen(Helen)-114:
    two words…wow!

  • 126.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:08 am

    @Helen(Helen)-119: Well, seeing that Keo and Co are always in the know – why not make keo headcoach, Vrede in the backline and JC upfront?

  • 127.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:08 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-124: Hey Goenta, sorry for not listing one of the three coaches you’ve heard of. Shall we go back to Harry Viljoen then?

  • 128.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:09 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-127:

    who is harry viljoen?

  • 129.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:10 am

    @Bagel(Bagel)-122: That may be the only way that Vermaak wil play for the boks…maybe he knew something?

  • 130.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:11 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-128: Before your time, I guess. He coached Before iPhone.

  • 131.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:11 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-128: Bring back Harry? We sure will be an elegant bunch of business tycoons – but can we tackle?

  • 132.bananaboy: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:12 am

    Give it to the Cheetahs boys. Naka and Heinrich have done an amazing job at the Cheetahs in my opinion with limited pool and have shown that they can develop players.

  • 133.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:13 am

    Alistair is the only logical choice for many reasons. Not that he’d nescessarily be my choice, but I just don’t see anyone else getting it, given all the issues around the position,

  • 134.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:14 am

    @Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-131:

    elegant?

    harry used to wear that nasty leather jacket that made him look like a photocopier salesman.

  • 135.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:15 am

    @bananaboy(bananaboy)-132: The Cheetahs perform regardless of Naka. He’s like a fax machine. You probably need one in your office, but it’s not make-or-break-your-business stuff.

  • 136.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:16 am

    @Skeppie(Skeppie)-118: I am also thinking that we have an embarressment of riches which is causing us to pick only the craven weekers and SA schools boys. Only handful of these make it through. How does the scouting structure work? Do we invest into youngsters beyond just the game to ensure they can sustain the pressures of big rugby? I reckon many receive a salary to play and settle for booze and 5 minutes of fame.

  • 137.once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once more...: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:16 am

    people please! basically we need to create a media and grapevine storm in support of meyer.

    this way it will be some kind of greek phrased situation like a paradox or a rubicon or a damacus or a damocles sword or whatever is apropriate for both saru and any ptotential taker for the job other than heyneke.

    we need to mobilise!
    stop talking about change and be the change!

    ask not what the springboks can do for you but what you can do for the springboks.

  • 138.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:17 am

    I read somewhere that Paul Treu is likely to be employed as backline coach, or assistant coach.

    The new coach won’t have complete control over the coaching set up, and that rules a guy like Heyneke Meyer out, and probably also rules guys like Plumtree, Venter and Mitchell out. Mitchell and Venter don’t play nicely with others, and will struggle to function within SARU.

  • 139.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:18 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-133: Jake strongly urged SARU to give it to Alistair last time around..

  • 140.Staal: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-134: :lol:

  • 141.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-134: Yes, but that’s Viljoen elegance. I see you know ol’ Harry well.

  • 142.Staal: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    so is Fleckie now in the mix or not?

  • 143.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-138: As long as we don’t play Fiji 15-man rugby as a result..but we will be fit, very fit

  • 144.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-134: Reminds me of our woodwork teacher in high school, those jackets. And that’s a very unflattering comparison.

  • 145.bananaboy: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:22 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-135: He has brought through a lot of talent unheard of before and is willing to make the tough choices I think. A fax machine makes no choices/decisions it just performs on instructions. The most difficult task for a coach is making the right choices at International level with regards to players and matching that with a playing style.

    Meyer is a good choice I would agree, if we are willing to give him the time to develop his approach. At both the Bulls and Leicester he showed that, although having achieved little at the latter he was on the way to turning them into a force and just needed the time to do so.

  • 146.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:23 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-144: My woodwork teacher was also 1 XV coach. We were unbeaten that year…

  • 147.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:24 am

    @bananaboy(bananaboy)-145: Heyneke is also like a copier, he made a copy of Derick Hougaardt and called it Morne Steyn.

  • 148.Michael: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:25 am

    I don’t understand people slamming Meyer for the time he took to make the Bulls successful “because he had the most talented generation”. He BUILT the most talented generation! He built the team, the structures, the support personnel, etc etc from effectively nothing.

  • 149.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:25 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-133: don’t go hiding behind bushes now, say what you want to say openly!

    SAFA have appointed many foreign and white south african coaches since 1992, i don’t remember not once has the ministry of sport interfered.

    SARU can appoint whoever they want as long as they guy satisfies ALL the requirement/criteria they set.

  • 150.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    12 Oct 2011, 11:25 am

    @bananaboy(bananaboy)-145: If they start making noises about appointing Naka, I will personally step in and stop it. I don’t normally like to get involved, but for that I will.

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