KeoTV: Finals shootout

KeoTV: Finals shootout

14 Oct 2011

MARK KEOHANE calls it for the Wallabies. RYAN VREDE says he’s dreaming.


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  • 51.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @IOU(IOU)-45:
    IOU, i reckon we should even go further back, i reckon the Cavaliers games were match fixed as well.
    :-)

  • 52.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:55 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-48: I sort of remember some very similar cowardly “sweep under the carpet” sentiments before the corruption scandal erupted in cricket.

    Sweeping it under the carpet only makes things worse if or when the truth is discovered.

    So fuckyouverymuch.

  • 53.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:56 am

    @Helen(Helen)-47:

    Gives new meaning to “go fly a kite”

  • 54.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:57 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-48:

    In years to come this wolrd cup will be remembered as being the most unjust ever.

    No matter who wins, it will be an empty victory with the winners always wondering if they were good enough to beat the boks

  • 55.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

    @Helen(Helen)-46:
    Helen, it weas not one decision. There were many, I believe it was a world record with no penalties and free kicks in second half, maybe one of you can find if that claim was true.
    There were a number of times where we were on the line and blatant hands in the ruck and we lose the ball.
    But anyway lets move on.

  • 56.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:58 am

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-52:

    agree. even if it is just a vicious rumour, IRB need to act strongly, otherwise all future ref decisions will be under a cloud

  • 57.IOU: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 11:59 am

    Helen@46
    No the ref did not penalize the French once in the second half if I remember correctly…

  • 58.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-55:

    c’mon, you can’t seriously compare 2007 with what happened on Sunday.
    It was blatant and deliberate

  • 59.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-49: Hold on chap, in my post 18 I state “I personally think the ref was just soft in the head for the QFs.”.

    I have accepted the Boks lost, but I reckon it is cowardly in the extreme to just have a sweep it under the carpet attitude when the whole moral fibre of rugby is being questioned.

    The whispers could only grow louder if the IRB dont do something.

  • 60.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-52:

    Why only now that we have lost?
    What about all the other games even during previous tournaments?
    Get real man, the only truth here is that the Boks lost.
    Just accept it and get on with life.

  • 61.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    Bottom line is that this world cup has produced the most entertaining rugga of all previous RWC’s, but Sunday’s tragedy will forever be a black spot on the sport.

    IRB need to act strongly and quickly to nip this in the bud…. we don’t want to see millions of people losing interest in the sport because refs’ integrity is being questioned.

  • 62.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-54: Yeah. What would you have said if the All blacks said the same of the 2007 world cup? That the winner should feel like a hollow victory, as they were robbed in the quarter final? Don’t be so dramatic.

  • 63.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-56: If this weekends games are blighted by some dubious ref calls then this is only going to magnify….

    Wait until Aus are on the wrong side of the ref this weekend – whispers will blow up into a cacophony.

  • 64.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-60:

    Why was Hansie hauled before an inquiry?
    Shouldn’t we have just said “oh well, it happens, get on with life”???

    Sorry ZimRobber, your ignorance and child like naivete is so 90′s.

  • 65.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-54:

    It will only be an empty win in the eyes of the non- winners I guess.
    Do you then agree that the 2007 bok win was also empty in the sense that the team and all Saffers will always be wondering whether they were good enough to have beaten the AB’s/Aus?France etc?

  • 66.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-54:
    Helen. In 2007 we knew we could beat the Boks but we lost against a team that we should not have.
    Same thing as the Boks in 2011.
    So do you think the 2007 was a hollow victory for the Boks?

  • 67.Brads: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-37:
    There in lies the issue.

    Deb Robinson would last as long as it took to read her own dismissal letter if she uttered a comment like that outside of her area of expertise.

    Seems odd to to me that you Saffas could accept Tim Noakes self appointed expert opinions as being anything other than drivel.

  • 68.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-44: could be a square up for the 07 WC QF reffing debarcle,fair enough,better late than never.

  • 69.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:08 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-63:

    I don’t think we’ll quickly see such one-sided blindness again.
    Refs will be on their best behaviour this weekend and tell the bookies to get knotted. There is just too much heat at the mo.
    Remember, Sunday was not an instance of bad or incompetent reffing. It was deliberate, continuous, one sided, blatant and dramatic.

  • 70.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-64:

    Because there was real evidence of corruption in Hansie’s case- he even admitted to it before the investigation properly started- You are naive if you want to compare it to the current situation.

  • 71.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-61: Lol when do the IRB ever act strongly and quickly on ANYTHING? other than trying to fine the boks for wearing armbands that is… :)

  • 72.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm

    Look all, i am on your side and believe the game is to much with the refs. They can just about call a team out of a game, not saying anyone has but the rules on alot of things can go either way.
    It rubbish the way the Boks went out as was the ABs in 2007. But alot of the blame should be focused on your team, trust me i know :-)

  • 73.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-66:

    Sure, it was a hollow victory. I agree.

    I also agree you were robbed by INCOMPETENT refereeing in 2007.

    My point is that last Sunday was clearly not due to incompetence, otherwise both teams could’ve benefitted at some stage of the game. It was much too in-your-face to be a ref skills issue

  • 74.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-60: Chap, I was saying this after the France vs NZ match already.

    I am commenting about the points Noakes raises. He takes a considerable reputational risk by making the points he does.

    It is all too easy to write this thing off as “sour grapes”. This is more than just a couple of erratic decisions in one match – this is a pattern in the World Cup…

    Either a pattern of incompetence or a pattern of corruption.

  • 75.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-52: @Helen(Helen)-61: when James O’ Connor was to convert the try Horwill scored, JPP ran and “interfered” with the kick, o’connor subsequently missed. the laws state that a re-take should be given to the kicker and that didn’t happen.

    was that part of the “conspiracy” or scheme?

  • 76.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

    very embrabaoer from Dr Noakes.

    He should stick to his area of expertise.

    It’s one thing to say brycie is as useless as wheels on a fish its quite another to suggest (without the slightest bit of evidence) that he is a match fixer.

  • 77.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

    @TheTackler(TheTackler)-13: Careful now Tackles, he might come on here, pull down your spiderman undies and spank your bottom in front of everyone again, like last time

    On the plus side, it does make you disappear for 6 months, so might not be a bad thing…..

  • 78.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-46: are you serious?not 1 penalty against the perfect french in the 2nd half,come on.

  • 79.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm

    @dermie(dermie)-68:
    Why?
    What did SA have to do in 2007 with the way Barnes reffed the game?

    @Atreides(Atreides)-71:
    You didnt see the Samoan boy get fined for wearing an incorrect mouth guard.

  • 80.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-64:

    no they said that when mark waugh and shane hurley found to be taking bookies money.

  • 81.IOU: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

    Helen@64
    People in SA is bad losers! Helen show me proof of RWC match fixing…
    What you have is a conspiracy theory, like Suzie!
    Same thing happened to the AB in 2007.

  • 82.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-70:

    Zim Robber, as much as I would like to entertain your childish rants, I am not going to.

    Don’t take it personally, I just think you are a p***

  • 83.toby: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-73: Brisbane get’s pretty hot in the summer though..how come your leaving SA?

  • 84.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-73:
    Helen, Bryce didnt ref the breakdowns or rucks.
    If Brussow was on it would have been different and the Ozzies would have been complaining like you.
    Both teams had a free go at rucks and mauls but after Brussow, SA are in trouble and Pocock just took you apart.

  • 85.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-74:

    Huge difference between a pattern of incompetence and a pattern of corruption.

  • 86.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm

    @IOU(IOU)-81:

    Huh?
    what are you trying to accuse me of?
    all I am saying, is that these are noot normal whsipers. It needs to be nipped in the bud one way or another

  • 87.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-85:

    Sounds like you have experience in both?
    Enlighten us

  • 88.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-75: But is it not the right of a team to charge a conversion attempt… You make no sense.

  • 89.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-75:
    Oh yeah i forgot about that.
    Thanks Trans, corruption nipped in the bud

  • 90.Brads: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-64:

    He was guilty.

    And I tend to think his admitting the guilt, even before the enquiry was held, is unhelpful to your argument.

  • 91.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

    @toby(toby)-83:

    Lotsa reasons.
    Is been on the cards for a few years now.
    Finally made a decision last month, getting paperwork ready now

  • 92.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-79: sorry,good point.maybe the ref thought playing the wannabies would be an easier game?

  • 93.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-88:
    only when the kicker takes a step towards the ball, he didnt, he shou;d have been awarded another shot, its in the rules

  • 94.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm

    @Brads(Brads)-90:

    Ja, I am geting tired of this argument and I probably don’t have grounds to claim corruption…. it just eases the pain somewhat.

  • 95.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-85: Is that so? Are you sure?

    As incompetent as a bowler in cricket bowling a no ball…?

    Don’t be farken naive.

  • 96.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-82:

    Who cares what you think- does it make you feel strong and powerful to swear at people on a blog- it only shows your lack of decency and an inability to counter arguments with facts.

  • 97.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm

    @dermie(dermie)-92:
    but it wouldnt be.
    I wanted to play the boks and beat you so we dont have people on here saying its a hollow victory to whoever wins it, as is whats happening right now.

  • 98.toby: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-91: Wow you must be excited..hope everything go’s well for you.

  • 99.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-76:

    Paraplegic fish might not agree with you on that.

  • 100.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

    @Brads(Brads)-67: Noakes expertise lies with Science of Sport.

    Here’s a question: What expertise is actually required to either observe incompetence or corruption?

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