KeoTV: Finals shootout

KeoTV: Finals shootout

14 Oct 2011

MARK KEOHANE calls it for the Wallabies. RYAN VREDE says he’s dreaming.


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  • 101.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-75: Was up to the aussies to object and request a re-take

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-74: Unfortunately law says you have to provide the evidence to prove your allegations..you can’t ask your opponent to disprove your allegation, that is fussy science!!

  • 102.Bod: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-80:

    If you think I battle to get rugby coverage in the nether regions of the Spanish mountains, you can imagine the impossibility of anything resembling willow on leather.

    I believe the Aussies are in town and we managed to get crunched in a 20/20 job yesterday. What is the itinary and is there any action on this weekend??

    Help!! from a drowning Bod

  • 103.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-94: just like suzy.

  • 104.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-97: another one lawerence got wrong.

  • 105.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-93: So plain incompetence… Maybe Lawrence is just plain, farken incompetent. This would actually be a relief.

    But would love to know this:
    - Why were SH refs not reffing the NH games and Vice versa?
    - How did Lawrence get a QF with the Aussies when they questioned his competence in the Ireland game?

  • 106.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-79: Hmmm and their perpetual bedfellows, the English, get off scot-free for blatantly cheating??

  • 107.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-95:

    If you reckon that incompetence and corruption are one and the same then I was naive enough to overestimate your intelligence.

  • 108.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @dermie(dermie)-103:
    nope not like suzy.In 1995 you could actually see some of the ABs being sick on the sideline.
    Unlike the corruption theory, where there is no proof at all,just alot of sore and angry people

  • 109.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

    @Atreides(Atreides)-101: *fuzzy science*

  • 110.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-108: fuzzy again…..yes shows signs of illness, but in no way proves they were deliberately poisoned….when are you guys going to see that one does not immediately lead to the other?

  • 111.Brads: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-94:
    I can understand that.

    Once the acute pain has worn down to just a nagging ache, it is likely you will start to consider other aspects of the game as being the reason for the loss rather than just the refs decisions or non decision.

  • 112.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-88: the laws state that “no player of the team that has conceded a try may cross their try-line to prevent the conversion attempt until the kicker BEGINS his approach to the ball”

    if there is an infringement of this rule and the kicker missed, the referee is OBLIGED to allow another conversion attempt!

  • 113.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm

    @dermie(dermie)-104:
    yep, i said he didnt ref at all that well, and i another one.
    But corruption and match fixing seems a bit much for me,especially not one piece of evidence

  • 114.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm

    @Atreides(Atreides)-101: The IRB is not an opponent. The IRB “runs” the game of Rugby.

    Rugby is in the process of being tarnished.

    I was talking about the incompetence of refs in games SA was not even playing in.

    I remember having a discussion with I think Fantasticbarnsmell late one night about refs and even having the possibility of two refs in a game because the modern game of rugby might even have become too fast for one ref to officiate fairly or properly.

  • 115.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm

    @Atreides(Atreides)-101: no!

    the rules state: if there is an infringement of this rule and the kicker missed, the referee is OBLIGED to allow another conversion attempt!

  • 116.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm

    @Atreides(Atreides)-110:
    Correct, we were not poisoned deliberatly, i am with you there. But we were sick, again the proof is there. Where is the proof for amtch fixing and corruption.
    I think Wales should complain to after the first game, they were robbed as well.

  • 117.IOU: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm

    Helen@86
    As far as I can see/read, I am not accusing any one of anything.
    It is a conspiracy theory…so, please show us proof of RWC match fixing.
    I can show you bad decisions by the Springbok “captain”(2), Morne Steyn, a Jean De Villiers forward pass, and a F du Preez knock on
    that cost the Springboks the match, do you think they were in on the deal??

  • 118.Craven: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:30 pm

    Laughable, utterly, truly laughable. Now the game was fixed so that the Ausies won? I am just as annoyed as the next person with Bryce, but making him out as more than a bumbling fool who was way our of his depth in this game, is pathetic. He is a plank of the highest order and should not have been blowing this game after his poor effort in the Aus / Ire game.

    The fact that the Boks also transgressed at the breakdown without sanction shows how pathetic this “match fixing” line of thought is now. I have always had respect for Tim Noakes, but I believe I have now lost it, all of it.

  • 119.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:30 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-112: And on balance, you think the game was reffed incompetently then?

    So the game was not tainted by corruption in any way, but rather blatant incompetence…

    Well, thats a huge farken relief.

  • 120.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:30 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-114: well then, ask the IRB to get Paddy O’Brien to explain or improve on the shoddy decision-making! demanding that the IRB prove that no match-fixing occured is ridiculous.

  • 121.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-114: Bud I agree the reffing standards need to be looked at urgently. But you can’t make an allegation of that seriousness with no concrete proof, and then demand that the people you are accusing prove themselves innocent. Doesn’t follow.

    @Transformation(Transformation)-115: And if the aussie captain had objected he prob would have got his retake. But yea, another instance of his incompetence

  • 122.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm

    @Brads(Brads)-111:

    Keeping in mind that I am writing from the world’s crime capital at the moment.
    Everything is corrupt until proven otherwise.

  • 123.Atreides: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:32 pm

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-116: yep. see 121

  • 124.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:32 pm

    @Atreides(Atreides)-106:
    For sure, there was bit said over here about the English cheating. That is terrible and they did really get off scot free

  • 125.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-119: Yes & No… Yes the game was officiated in a poor manner and NO, it is no relief!

  • 126.once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once more...: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm

    @dermie(dermie)-68:
    no dermie, a saffa ref would never do that to the all blacks, or the wallabies for that matter.
    what happened here was wrong and it was done by a new zealander.

  • 127.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm

    @Robzim(Robzim)-107: I don’t say that they are the same… We were talking patterns, no?

    And now you start talking intelligence. Clearly I have overestimated yours. But I wont underestimate your capacity to be a idiotic coward who wont ask questions for fear of being labelled a “sore loser”.

  • 128.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm

    @Helen(Helen)-122:
    lol
    So i apologise then Helen. You have every right to demand what you think

  • 129.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-125: Well, your point then?

  • 130.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm

    What happened with that wager between Kitch and someone else on here?
    Kitch was supposed to wear an SA flag and whistle Nkosi Sikilela through his po epop if the English crashed.
    And crashed they did, like a Bellville Uno driver on tik

  • 131.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm

    @Gunther(gunther)-76: Yes, it is entirely possible that he fixed this match by accident.

  • 132.NoRugbyGuru_0_: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:36 pm

    This WC hasn’t lived up to expectations. Its been dull. I always said that the WC is the cup that counts but not anymore. The refs have way too much influence on games, I’m convinced the IRB wanted to make sure Boks don’t win because of the 4 years of PR damage pdivvy did. I’m also 100% sure France won’t win WC because of the off field drama. I’m all rugby’d out at the moment *sigh*

  • 133.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm

    in the tri-nations match in PE, TMO Meuwesen over-stepped the protocols and offered his opinion on something that happened in play when the protocols don’t allow him to do that…new zealand lost the game. i don’t recall even a hint of “corruption” or “match-fixing” being suggested by saffas.

  • 134.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

    @Bod(bod)-102:

    hola

    we are playing the convicts again on saturday. followed by some ODI’s and then only two tests. personally I would have sacrificed the ODI’s for antother test.

    a two test series is a waste of time.

    boys looked very ring rusty.

    hopefully that will improve. If you have decent interweb you can probably pick it up.

    lord knows if that lobotmised gibbon extraball can manage it, then it can’t be too hard.

  • 135.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

    @Bod(bod)-102: “in the nether regions of the Spanish mountains…”

    Whatever you’re doing there in Spain, Boderick, that’s your own business. I won’t judge you. Just wear protection.

  • 136.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm

    Nee mense. Match fixing allegations are just pathetic and tragic. C’mon you cannot be serious. The ref made some bad calls, and the Boks lost. Finish en klaar. Let it go. :lol:

  • 137.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-129: your call for an investigation into possible match-fixing is misguided, at worst idiotic :D

  • 138.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-131:

    indeed.

    that’s usually how I fix my washing machine.

  • 139.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

    @once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-126: yeah and barnes was english,so?

  • 140.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-133:
    Yeah that was a dissapointing day :-(

  • 141.Helen: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-131:

    The way they played, I think there were two bookies competing for this match to be thrown.
    The Wallabies did their best to lose the game, but Bryce’s bookie paid top dollar for an Ausie victory

  • 142.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-133: Yeah and that was even more blatant. Also the TMO was a saffa, with a saffa team on the pitch. Maybe the IRB should investigate him too huh. :lol: Dirty cheathing Meuwessen

  • 143.Brads: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-114:
    I will tell you what I find amazing.

    Comments by Saffas over the game between NZ and Aus and how Craig will favour, not favour or what ever one side or the other.

    Only a Saffa would think along these lines.

    Nothing to do with him being a South African, you would still throw up your thoughts the same way if he were English.

    What it tells me is you do not conceivce of the idea that teams should adapt to the ref, and that the international rugby community is not populated by a vast pool of homogeneous on field officials.

  • 144.dermie: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm

    @once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once mo@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-132: we’ll your on the wrong site then.

  • 145.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm

    @once more just take a break on the beach, dear springboks, once more…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-126:
    So, we were ripped of in the PE test by a South African TMO. IN fact that lost us the 3 nations.
    Surely you cant keep going down the corruption and match fixing road.

  • 146.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-115: don’t forget the guy is incompetent, he would not even have been alive to that rule.

  • 147.Bod: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-135:

    Thanks Bud

    Working on the old mtb trails and upping my Greg Minnaar skills, so protection I do have aplenty… knee guard, elbow guard, chest guard…

    Toss…

  • 148.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm

    @NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-132:
    Whats the bet if the Boks had won that day your post would look somewhat different to say the least

  • 149.Schalk is Pote Fouries daughter: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm

    Looks like bias against South Africa runs in the Lawrence family:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=4302

  • 150.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    14 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-127:

    IThe problem is that people like you only ask questions when your team lose but choose not to be so “fearless” if you win and therefore you have no credibility as far as I am concerned.

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