KeoTV: Finals shootout
14 Oct 2011
MARK KEOHANE calls it for the Wallabies. RYAN VREDE says he’s dreaming.
KeoTV: Finals shootout
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14 Oct 2011, 13:17 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-183: “Paddy O Brien was talking about “getting” in his email a few years back.” did Paddy O’Brien write the “get the Yarpies” email? :schock:
14 Oct 2011, 13:17 pm
Rugby Union propably has the most complicated rules imaginable.
The players, media and supporters don’t even understand the rules half the time. The NH and SH refs interpret them differently and rules get changed ever year.
I’m sure that half of Rassies time was spent examining how BL would interpret the game.
So for a ref to get away with blowing according to what the bookies say is not far fetched.
Even Panty thinks that if you touch the ball against the top padding of the post it’s a try.
14 Oct 2011, 13:18 pm
@Helen(Helen)-199: HellsBells, HG does not sit when he wees, are we clear?
14 Oct 2011, 13:19 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-203:
lol
14 Oct 2011, 13:20 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-195:
If I were the IRB, I would do this investigation properly.
Get Joost and Amor to set a honey trap for Bryce and allow Quade to steal his laptop to check his bank accounts.
N
14 Oct 2011, 13:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-183:
Ag shame HG. Really…name calling? Ooo…you convinced me.
If Tim Noakes and a Aus reporter says so it must be true!
Lawrence must be a real dumb *** letting the tri-nation champs play against the all blacks…
14 Oct 2011, 13:22 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-202: “Even Panty thinks that if you touch the ball against the top padding of the post it’s a try.”
tl tl tl
14 Oct 2011, 13:22 pm
@Helen(Helen)-205:
I think you should look more in your backyard.
Have a look at FDPs, Moenie and PDV accounts, i am sure its all there to see
14 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
Oh no.
Another interweb divorce.
He thought she thought that she was a he-she.
14 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-207: I thought you would like that one.
14 Oct 2011, 13:24 pm
From Paul Rees of the Guardian:
“The initial, erroneous message from organisers on Sunday night was that the television match official did not have the authority to rule on kicks, but that was rectified within 12 hours and all officials will be reminded this week that if they are unsure whether a kick is good, the referee should call on the television match official.
The Hook kick was, in one sense, a side-issue. There were deeper concerns about officiating in the opening games. Before the start of the tournament, the International Rugby Board’s director of referees, Paddy O’Brien, told referees and coaches there were five key areas where consistency of application would be demanded.
The third involved mauling. “The ball-carrier in a maul,” said O’Brien, “must be available to be tackled by the defending team.” So when England, trailing by six points, kicked a penalty to touch and then drove the lineout, why was Dylan Hartley allowed to carry the ball behind the rest of his forwards?
There was no way an Argentina defender could get to him within the laws. The referee Bryce Lawrence had penalised England for doing something similar in the first half, so why not when the game was at a crucial stage? England were allowed to go on and set up the base from which Ben Youngs scored the try that gave the 2007 beaten finalists a lead they were not to lose.
What is the point of issuing directives if they are ignored at key moments? And why is it that underdogs tend to be the victims? Upsets were threatened over the weekend, but not one materialised.
Some underdogs blew up but others were blown up. Argentina conceded seven penalties in the final quarter of their game against England and were awarded none. Wales were liberally supplied with penalties in the opening hour of their game against South Africa, but only one in the final 20 minutes of a game that ended when Mike Phillips was scragged as he went to pick up the ball from a ruck and the Springboks helped themselves.
Upsets help make a tournament, but they will remain rare in World Cups until laws and directives are applied equally to all. Argentina defeated France in the 2007 opener not least because the referee Tony Spreadbury did not buckle to pressure and spray the hosts with penalties in the final 10 minutes. And what happened to him for the rest of the tournament?”
This questioning of refs was happening long before QFs. Will look for some French articles
14 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-211:
The Guardian?
not that leftie Polly Toynbee loving douche of a rag?
surely you can do better?
14 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-211:
You go girlfriend!
I am with you on this….. but with my bleeding and all, I am feeling a little weak today.
14 Oct 2011, 13:27 pm
Just a comment from left-field. A punch or eye-gouge etc are frowned upon and that it outlawed and citings, hearings and suspensions…but it hardly sways the course of a match.
Cheating at the breakdown with video-evidence is seen as some special skill and applauded. – and it’s concequence is much more serious to the game.
I equate it to a common thief caught steeling a cellphone – he is branded a low-life, but the financial manager filtering company money to the personal account is somehow deemed to be a classier act – almost admirable
Surely, illegal play should be cited as is the case with dirty play?
14 Oct 2011, 13:34 pm
Keo, what are the chances of getting Bryce on here as a guest blogger?
14 Oct 2011, 13:37 pm
@Helen(Helen)-213: Did you bang your knee or something?
14 Oct 2011, 13:39 pm
Hopefully most of us are over the whole Bryce Lawrence saga. But i think i have a kind of system that could reduce the amount of mistakes, (intentional or not).
After every game, the referee’s performance needs to reviewed thoroughly. If there is clear evidence of a mistake that should have easily been picked up by the ref, he should be fined, a certain amount taken off his match fee, depending on the importance of the decision.
Not saying he should be fined for every single mistakes, as even the best refs in the world will have one or two tough calls where its 50-50. But fine him on really bad calls, i.e. Not calling a clear forward pass, or a high tackle, players entering ruck time from the side and so on.
Not saying its something that will work, but it certainly may help in reducing bad decision making. Just a thought.
14 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-212: I have quoted from the Torygraph too.
14 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-216:
No, menstruating.
The place is a mess. I have left a trail all the way from the Edgars fittings rooms to Mugg & Bean smoking section.
They have now gotten one of those cleaning lady sweeping behind me…
M&B manager has now brought me a complimentary poppy seed muffin to help stem the flow….
14 Oct 2011, 13:44 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218:
Gunth, it seems you have finally scared Langers away.
It’s a pity, coz I miss him.
14 Oct 2011, 13:47 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-211: we were discussing this long before the QF, with the 2 ref idea… looks like the ref issue has come up again in a big way
was Tim Noakes waering a tinfoil hat on his head during that interview? the bottom line is that Lawrence is just a bad referee, everyone knew this before the game and this one is no exception. if there was bias, it was probably because he got so much flack for pinging the aussies in the ireland pool game that he subconsciously was giving them the benefit of the doubt, maaybe at a stretch. no fixing though or serious bias, he’s just bad and it was not our day
14 Oct 2011, 13:47 pm
@Helen(Helen)-213: Farksakes, when are you not “on”… It seems “that time of the month” is the whole month for you.
14 Oct 2011, 13:56 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-221: Yup it truly has.
But what Noakes does do, whether everyone likes it or not, is raise the question of corruption.
Are we so sure that Rugby is incorruptible…
- from citings
- to designation of refs to matches
- to actual reffing of matches ranging from inconsistent to incompetent
I reckon we have got to start opening our eyes.
14 Oct 2011, 13:58 pm
@Helen(Helen)-219: Mother Mary, that’s one hellavu description…gonna take me a while to digest……I feel queasy
14 Oct 2011, 13:59 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-222:
Tell me about it girlfriend!
I am bleeding like a bus accident today.
M&B manager is so sweet, he’s put a bucket under my chair.
He’s a cutie also, I think he likes me *wink wink*
14 Oct 2011, 13:59 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-221: Hope it’s not. Cricket suffered because of it.
But BL didn’t ask JS to go for the line out when we were in kickable range early on and he also didn’t ask JDV to pass the ball forward etc. etc….
14 Oct 2011, 14:01 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-223: i would agree with that… we do presume rugby is not corrupt even though there are some odd happenings from time to time, so it doesn’t hurt to question things, just the timing makes it seem like he’s butthurt about us getting knocked out, even though he might raise a valid question
14 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-224:
“digest”???
That is sick.
14 Oct 2011, 14:03 pm
@Helen(Helen)-225: Hellsfarkenteeth…. What happens when the flow stops… Krusty?
14 Oct 2011, 14:08 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-229:
Had to shove another poppy seed muffin up there now.. Had to pay for this one, so will have to rinse it later and treat my man to a dessert tonight
What a day! Today is really bad. I am bleeding like a dogfight in an abatoir!
Yes, I pick the crusties off when I wake up in the monring. Sometimes have to use a fork.
14 Oct 2011, 14:11 pm
NZs are rugby mad…some rich sheep farmer probably payed Bryce a small fortune to stop the boks facing the ABs. Lets face it, they would rather play Auz than the boks…
O and Helen, you are being very distasteful and gross. THis is a rugby blog ffs. P*ss off.
14 Oct 2011, 14:14 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-227: Yes, but it is very easy to sweep things under the carpet on account of “sour grapes”… And it is not just reffing, what about citing etc
The Aussies were magnificent on defence and Pocock was undoubted Man of the Match.
But lets look at some “patterns” in this World Cup:
- Refs assigned games where their country may face whoever wins in the next game or may benefit from one of the countries losing.
- IRB going against its own directives on assignment of refs for games.
- Barmy decisions in many games.
At least incompetent, thats for sure. Corrupt? I don’t want to believe it and I think the IRB has a responsibility to assure everybody this is not the case.
14 Oct 2011, 14:14 pm
@Jeez(Jeez)-231:
What is so disgusting about a normal human condition?
Is it because it is a woman suffering that you turn on your se xist charm?
14 Oct 2011, 14:15 pm
@Helen(Helen)-230: Sheezus… Nearly chundered.
14 Oct 2011, 14:18 pm
@Helen(Helen)-233: why do woman have babies and periods?because they deserve it.now p**s off.
14 Oct 2011, 14:20 pm
@Jeez(Jeez)-231:
I wanted the Bokke, once your forwards are taken out of the game you have nothing else really , Genia can bust a game open from anywhere the Bokke don’t have that type of player
Helen please leave you’re f ucked in the head.
14 Oct 2011, 14:21 pm
@Helen(Helen)-230: We all get it. You’re controversial and shocking.
14 Oct 2011, 14:22 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-232:
you were whining all through the S15 about refs as well
14 Oct 2011, 14:24 pm
This is exactly why there aren’t more women on this blog.
Absolutely no respect or sensitivity for the unique and precious female bodily processes
14 Oct 2011, 14:25 pm
For the maggot life the tag team enthusiatically flourish in, that life in chunks of coagulated blood would be so more enriched to the point of seeming to be Paradise.
There is still to be found much proteins and its precursor amino acids, there is much carbohydrates and its monomers of glucose and some fructose and galactose, there are many fats and even fatty acids, there are other fuels like lactic acid(for heart) and incompletely metabolised fatty acids for beta oxidation BUT most importantlly for them there is NO stench yet to deal with.
Why then would the HG team want to continue to exist in the cow-dung pat when it could live it up in their new coagulated Paradise, even of lies and delusion and no credibility?
14 Oct 2011, 14:26 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-238: Quote me, fckface, quote me…
14 Oct 2011, 14:26 pm
@Helen(Helen)-239: so this is’nt a rugby forum,it’s oprah’s forum.
14 Oct 2011, 14:27 pm
@ET.(ET.)-240:
ET, how you doing sweetie?
I thought about you earlier when I replaced the muffin
14 Oct 2011, 14:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-241:
You tell him, girlfriend!
ET is here, so we have to keep up appearances wink wink
14 Oct 2011, 14:29 pm
@dermie(dermie)-242:
Trust me, where I am sitting, it is more like a banned scene from SAW
14 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
Wow, disappointed with the blogging. How about a rugby discussion?
14 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-241:
if it wasn’t you whining like a schoolgirl it was somebody else very similar to you big cake hole, too much to say etc etc so if it wasn’t you I apologise, you only whined during the WC
14 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-246:
if you hang around a bit longer Helen might start talking about her Labia, it gets really interesting then
14 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@ET.(ET.)-240: Aha, so by Noakes making some valid points and commentary on that by not just dumfck “yarpies” but by Aussies, Englishmen and guaranteed other nationalities too you get “lies and delusion and no credibility”.
Yeah, as credible as a “struggle hero” who spouts off about walking the streets of “Tokoza” Township….?
Where or what is “Tokoza”? The Bang Bang Club used to play in Thokoza.
Farken fraudulent mpukane… thats what you are… ithuvu lempukane.
14 Oct 2011, 14:34 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-248: So sadly this is not a once-off lowlight?
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