Henry thrilled with Joubert appointment
18 Oct 2011
All Blacks coach Graham Henry believes that referee Craig Joubert’s good rapport with the players bodes well for Sunday’s World Cup final.
On Monday, Joubert was announced as the man to handle the showpiece match. In a tournament where referees have been heavily criticised for some dubious calls and in some instances a lackadaisical approach, Joubert has stood out as the most fair and consistent official. Many feel he deserved the final appointment, and Henry is among his admirers.
‘He’s a very good referee, relates well to the players, is very clear in his instruction, has got a lot of composure and has developed as one of the top refs in the world,’ Henry told stuff.co.nz. ‘It’s pleasing because the players enjoy playing when he’s referee, and that’s a sign of a good ref.’
Joubert handled the breakdown well in last week’s semifinal between the All Blacks and Wallabies. While France have no out-and-out fetcher to counter New Zealand’s Richie McCaw, they have also been impressive in this facet of play. If they dominate the collisions, then they could also obtain just reward from Joubert, a referee who favours a dominant, attacking side.
Meanwhile, Henry has confirmed that the All Blacks have no serious injuries following Sunday’s game in Auckland. Centre Ma’a Nonu (shoulder), Cory Jane, Andy Ellis (both nose) and Piri Weepu (virus) are expected to be available for the final.
195 Comments
18 Oct 2011, 01:25 am
Of course he is happy – he gives them all the decisions.
18 Oct 2011, 01:30 am
Why not? Craig seems to be quite competent.
18 Oct 2011, 01:36 am
@jeest(jeest)-1:
All the decisions?
This is the millionth time you have exaggerated
18 Oct 2011, 02:46 am
Surprised more hasn’t been made of Piri’s “virus”. Was difficult to see but it looked like he spewed his dinner up when he came off. I hope it’s not a test run by Suzie
18 Oct 2011, 02:48 am
Really sad fokkers here, one day Craig is very best, now again kak (gives Blacks all the decisions), as soon as GH says something good about him.
Sad clowns and whingers.
18 Oct 2011, 03:05 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-3: Ha – I’ll pay that
18 Oct 2011, 03:08 am
World class ref. Great occasion. Wish the Boks were there but not to be.
18 Oct 2011, 04:22 am
@rugbypedia(rugbypedia)-7: yep would have been perfect for the Boks to have jagged this stint….this is how wrong the WC tournament can be ( and is) when a team that has played like France is in the final. Surely there must be a way that a points indicator over the years play could have some influence rather than an average team lifting for one or two games?
In all honesty, I think it is why alot of Kiwis take exception to the WC when all else has been won through great play on a very high average and then get the boot in a one off.
I personally would have loved for the Boks and AB’s to meet in the final…that would have been a real sweaty palm job, but now its the end of an era for alot of these guys it will never be.
18 Oct 2011, 06:12 am
according to Neels Liebel paddy planned it this way all along – screw the boks by giving them lawrence and then give the ABs Joubert back to back
personally i’m over it now , good luck to both the AB’s and France also good luck to Joubs , may the best team win
18 Oct 2011, 06:23 am
The kiwis just have ALL the smarts, don’t they?
18 Oct 2011, 06:25 am
Now it’s all falling into place for Paddy’s master plan……and ironically it has taken a South African to be the only moral pinnacle of all things decent and good in this RWC.
Once a convict always a convict….kissing cousins.
18 Oct 2011, 06:56 am
well, at least there is one Saffa involved in the final. Good luck ABs. Based on what I saw last week you should smash them by at least 20.
18 Oct 2011, 07:43 am
well, nothings below them in the low, dirty, cheating stakes…isn’t it…
18 Oct 2011, 07:45 am
so he would be thrilled.
18 Oct 2011, 07:54 am
Oh good grief – will you fools stop with your idiotic whinging and ridiculous conspiracy theories! Not only does it make all Saffas look like village idiots, it’s also providing the individual foreign knuckleheads with ammo to support that very point.
Gawd.
18 Oct 2011, 08:19 am
Eat your hearts out Yappies
All Blacks are the greatest sporting team in the history of world sport’
Read all about it on Fox Sport
18 Oct 2011, 08:20 am
If you believe – and said it at the time – that Bryce Lawrence’s refereeing the 1st Test against the B&ILs was grossly bent in favour of the Boks, then you may have a point questioning AGAIN Lawrence’s handling of the Boks game Vs Aus.
If you thought it was a fair performance then in 2009, you have no right to complain now!
Mc Caw got his 1st Offside callon the 62nd minutes Vs Aus, so much so for Joubert’s great performance!
18 Oct 2011, 08:22 am
Burp!
18 Oct 2011, 08:26 am
@Black Power(Black Power)-16:
RWC crown is no indicator in terms of rugby proper, only a best of 3 series is a meaningful competition
The ABs will not get far without Carter, ‘His Masters’ Voice’ Craig Joubert will hand them the RWC crown but then PdV and his quota lords did enough to suppoert the ABs road to glory
Give them too a credit !
18 Oct 2011, 08:27 am
To all kiwi’s…your team rocks and would be worthy champions. It’s going to be great fun with our new team playing against you guys as world champions and even sweeter when we beat you. Good luck for the final.
18 Oct 2011, 08:48 am
An AB victory in the final will transform rugby globally. It will take a step up in the professionalism stakes. If SA had won it with a clown coach and a geriatric self centered captain, rugby would have stagnated as a sport. The message sent out would have been that you can appoint a clueless coach and still win the showpiece of the sport. It would have meant the end of professional coaching. All you have to do is to appoint a consultant a month before the tournament and you could still be competitive.
Now, with the AB’s set to make history, the message that will go out is that you have to take every game seriously and that there are no more excuses entertained that you are building towards the WC. SA cannot afford to make another token appointment in the coaching position and we can less afford to have token players in certain positions. There is no place for sentimental appointments in the leadership – the best players have to play because we are realistically the only team that can compete with the AB’s and they are going to be even more of a force when they get rid of the WC ****** on their backs. The AB’s winning the WC is the best things that could ever happen to the sport.
Of course, if the French win it, we are screwed
18 Oct 2011, 08:50 am
@Couchcoach(GI POT)-21: m onkey
18 Oct 2011, 09:06 am
I’m glad for Joubert. He has worked hard for this honour and has done very well. I saw an interview where he said as much, and has flown his family into NZ for this week ahead of the match, so that they can be there for his big moment. Congrats Craig, we are proud of you.
18 Oct 2011, 09:29 am
Joubert is right inside Paddy and Teddy’s back pockets plain as daylight to see. Of course they happy he didn’t give Aussie half a sniff in the semi.
Seems this WC gone nice and perfectly to plan, only Frenchie can go and spoil the Paddy party now, Teddy better hope and pray they don’t.
18 Oct 2011, 09:42 am
Something that hasn’t been pointed out for some reason is that Bryce Lawrence is the son of Keith Lawrence, the NZ head of referees at that time who had to apologise for sending the notorious ‘lets get the Japies’ email. Read it here…
Bryce Lawrence’s dad is none other than Keith Lawrence http://ht.ly/70nIb
18 Oct 2011, 09:42 am
I heard part of an interview with Craig on the radio going to work this morning.
He was justly proud to get the appointment, but said his first preference would have been to be sitting in the stand and watching the Bok’s scrap it out.
I know that is the type of thing all these top guys are expected to say, but he genuinely sounded sincere.
All that aside, I think he is a top ref, probably the best in the world at the moment.
18 Oct 2011, 09:48 am
I have just been watching a highlights package…. interesting coverage of the Wales v Island match. it wasn’t commented on, but there was a slow mo clip of Warburton lifting an Irish player in the tackle. Same technique – he was standing still with bent legs, tackled the Irish player low then drove upwards rather than forward. In this case, Warburton didn’t lift the player’s legs above horizontal, but he then drove him in to the ground.
I.e. this isn’t a case of a dominant tackle hooking the tackled player up to take their weight off their feet as the tackler drives forward. In both cases Warburton was stationary, and drove vertically with no forward momentum.
He isn’t a dirty player and doesn’t seem to have any intent to tip the tackled player right over, BUT his technique is very risky, as it can easily go wrong as was the case on Saturday. Bad luck, but red card was required by the rules.
18 Oct 2011, 09:53 am
@skopskiet. I completely agree with you. It was clear to see in this year’s S15. Why on earth did Lawrence get to ref the S15 final. He had a shocker in the Sharks Crusaders game and everyone knew either Joubert, Mark Lawrence or Kaplan is the best there is. It was all part of the plan to promote Bryce. Having said that, if Brussow and Steyn were out of the semi, would we have had a chance against an All Black team that clearly adressed their chokers issue.
I said befor the World Cup that we had a good chance if J Smith and Brussow were fit and if the All Blacks played like the chokers they were.
18 Oct 2011, 09:54 am
Of the course the coach of the home team is happy with Mr Hometown reffing the match. Duh.
18 Oct 2011, 10:04 am
Good ref. Kiwis are firm favourites. Got to keep the Cup in the south!!!
18 Oct 2011, 10:06 am
Go France!!
18 Oct 2011, 10:06 am
@Michael(mikeybrass)-30:yep, if the AB’s win this it will be 7 WC’s, 6 won by SH sides, 1 by the NH.
18 Oct 2011, 10:09 am
@corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-32: It’ll re-confirm the south’s rule of world rugby. Got to keep the arrogant northerners in their place
Go ABs!
18 Oct 2011, 10:11 am
One worry I hvae in this game is the French managing to target Cruden better than Aussie did. If he gets injured, Donald will be on the park…. while he seems like a nice guy he isn’t of test standard.
18 Oct 2011, 10:15 am
@Michael(mikeybrass)-33: yeah, particulalry the pompous English team.
i do think the Welsh rated themselves too highly as well… they had a good win against Ireland but that was about it. While it was close against the Boks, they weren’t able to maintain the intensity for long enough. Jacques Fourie sensed that, and went for the touch line to set up the try that effectively won SA the game.
Ditto against France. A winning team would have closed that game out with all of the chances Wales had. But they didn’t have the BMT to do it.
18 Oct 2011, 10:21 am
funny how the new zealand press actually have the one-eyed gall to call these the most controversial refs at the tournament:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby-world-cup-2011/news/image.cfm?c_id=522&gal_cid=522&gallery_id=122235#8174294
and yes…you guessed it…no mention of mr kiwi you know who…
18 Oct 2011, 10:27 am
@corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-35: Good ridance to the English. They were an utter disgrace. That they don’t believe they did anything bad speaks volumes for their lack of character, humility and professionalism. Bunch of overhyped, overpaid yobs.
18 Oct 2011, 10:28 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-36: Surprise surprise.
18 Oct 2011, 10:37 am
@Michael(mikeybrass)-38:
they have no shame in some of the stuff they do, i mean honsetly…
18 Oct 2011, 11:03 am
@CK(CK)-25: Thanks for posting this. I’d heard about it but not seen the details. Sort of makes a mockery of Tackler’s comment at 10 above ie “The kiwis just have ALL the smarts, don’t they?”
18 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-17: Have another look at the video and you’ll also see that the Wallabies’ first penalty came when No. 7 (ie McCaw) was penalised at a ruck near the NZ tryline.
18 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
Boks played to a dumb script, its our dumb prestige conservation and conservative cowardice that killed us. We should have bust a gut and played our young lion go getters vs Aussie we wouldn’t have looked back. Carrying passengers and relying on prestigious over awed experience is actually what took our WC chances apart. Plain and clear as day to see, staid cowardly pre programmed reliance on set structures and strategically inept with single dimensional ball carriers into the midfield fray consistently, and slow overrated players is what destroyed any hope of a Bok success this year.
18 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
Craig Joubert is a very powerful man at the moment.
Just like we got BRYCED he now has the opportunity to immortalise himself.
He can be a South African hero; just as one man sunk us so too can this one man, Craig Joubert, sink a nation.
Will kiwis regard it as unfair if Craig does exactly what Bryce did to us?
I think it’s a wonderful opportunity for Craig…
18 Oct 2011, 11:14 am
@41 I wondered how long it would the saffas on here to pick that up. An obvious professional foul by McCaw, if it was later in the game McCaw would probably have got a yellow card
18 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
Sun is shining, birds are singing, girls are smiling, sore clowns keep performing.
Another wonderful day.
18 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
Apart from that incident, The ab’s were incredibly disciplined during that game. Limiting penalties allowed them to keep the pressure right on the Aussies.
18 Oct 2011, 11:16 am
Here is the article as posted on the link by CK
So Keith Lawrence the father of Bryce Lawrence once wanted to “teach the Japies a lesson”
The pieces of the puzzle is coming together quite nicely
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By NZPA
An embarrassed New Zealand Rugby Football Union yesterday smoothed over a potentially harmful row with South Africa, saying the incident had been dealt with internally.
NZRFU chief executive David Moffett would not say if the perpetrator, New Zealand manager of referee development Keith Lawrence, had been reprimanded.
Lawrence was forced to apologise to his South African counterpart Freek Burger following the sending of an e-mail which contained derogatory remarks about Burger. The e-mail had been sent to arrange a conference call between the three Super 12 referee managers but is understood to have contained earlier dialogue – not intended for South Africa – which had taken place between Lawrence and his
Australian counterpart.
Keith has spoken to Freek Burger and has apologised to him and Freek Burger has graciously accepted that apology and they between them have decided to move on and put it behind them,” Moffett said.
“It’s something we would have preferred not to have happened, it was a mistake and it has been apologised for.”
Both the NZRFU and South African Rugby Union have said there was no conspiracy involved in the e-mail in which the Anzac partners agreed to “teach the Japies (South Africans ) a lesson.”
The message went on: “We won’t tell Freek what we have decided and make sure (SARU chief executive Rian) Oberholzer doesn’t get involved.”
Moffett said the issue stemmed from a frustration related to the assessment criteria and standards to be used in assessing referees.
“There was a degree of frustration in respect to this which boiled over into the e-mail,” he said.
“It should not have happened and Keith is aware of that and he’s apologised for it. That is the issue and it does not involve anything else.”
Moffett said the refereeing assessment procedures had now been resolved between the Super 12 participants.
Changes to the interpretations of some rules and the referees’ ability to carry them out have been at the root of a less appealing Super 12 competition this year, but Moffett said the laws would be in place until the World Cup in October/November and it was up to the players to adapt.
The laws will be then revisited by the International Rugby Board and Moffett said it was likely New Zealand would be keen for a closer look at some of the issues.
18 Oct 2011, 11:18 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-36: you know whats the funniest thing in the world at the moment though??
people like you whinging incessantly and complaining about everything, especially after the last four years when you were quite willing to mock NZ for complaining about barnes and all the other *****..
karma, what a beautiful sight…. enjoy watching the WC final!
18 Oct 2011, 11:19 am
joubert will be in for a he’ll of a match. The French backs may be a rudderless rabble at the moment but their forwards are hard and will go at it 110%. there will be more blood spilt…..
18 Oct 2011, 11:23 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-43: still crying Sheriff? LMFAO… wipe them eyes man, I thought SA wasnt for sissies???
18 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-50: shhhhhh …. you do not want to spoil enjoyment of “A thousand and one whinge”, do you?
18 Oct 2011, 11:29 am
@Nils(Nils)-51: lol… nah, just hoping for more of the same actually… nice to see the w@nker Saffas such as Sheriff and him who loves bakkies botha having such a hard time accepting that their team has been home for a week or two already..
loving it to be honest…
18 Oct 2011, 11:32 am
Craig’s gonna do the business for us
He gave them a hint when he said ‘ he is sad, he would have preferred to sit in the stand with a Bok jumper’
Here are the details of the cheque that will be issued in favour of Craig Joubert:
I am already getting ready to do an electronic transfer to Craig’s bank account and he will have the usage of my beach house and time share at exclusive game farm for life
A mate of mine will be donating a Range Rover Evoque to Craig
18 Oct 2011, 11:35 am
Go and check my website
Support streaming in from as far as New Zealand
Website details: www dot support4craig dot com
Support here means financial support
18 Oct 2011, 11:40 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-54: @Sheriff(Sheriff)-53: all I see is little boy tears…
Donate to Sheriff fund
each dollar goes towards a brand new pack of Kleenex tissues, the rate hes going through them we need to plant more trees… please give generously, its for a worthy cause…
18 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-48: lmao…..its strange how fast winners turn to whingers. Some of these dudes are like long armed creatures who live in quicksand and try to pull everyone in.
I think the hardest part is that they have no say or involvement. Their team is gone and they are still screaming in agony over it…….its our party!!
18 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
Kiwis
We are not all the same.
Please.
18 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Dawn. we know
18 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-52: That’s what I suggest. Let’s have a friendly heated banter with Saffa bloggers (and when possible build a bridge, no need to gleefully **** on them for the next 4 years, IMHO, karma has struck, fine, let’s move on) and in the meantime sit back and enjoy some special clown performances.
18 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
The South African Trophy Cabinet:
Webb Ellis…………………………..Gone. lost 2011.
Mandela………………………………Gone. lost 2010.
Freedom Cup………………………Gone.lost 2010.
Tri-Nations………………………….Gone.lost 2010
World Sevens Series…………..Gone. lost 2010.
Super 15………………………………Gone. lost 2011.
SA dignity……………………………………Gone, thrown in the waste bin by South Africa’s sour, petulant and ungracious fans.
18 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
the longest whinge in the history of rugby union stands at 4 years.
funny that some kiwis (and fake kiwis) find an issue with a 1.5 week whinge?
18 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-53:
craig is
more expensive
than bryce was
for the
keewees
cheapskate
bryce
probably
did it for a
*******
from reechy
those thin cloud
inbreds
are the
pits
18 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
@Nils(Nils)-59:
Oooops , sorry Nils,
I didn’t see your “building bridges” post.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
@Porra the Fat and Clever Speedster(Porra)-62:
Porra
is
a
South
African
LOSER.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 11:56 am
@cane(cane)-63: Of course, that does not deter us from laughing and applauding the clowns dancing at the pole. 8)
18 Oct 2011, 11:56 am
@Porra the Fat and Clever Speedster(Porra)-62:
then again
steve tew
is probably
trying to
buy joubert
as we
speak
18 Oct 2011, 11:57 am
@cane(cane)-60:
Don’t paint everyone with the same brush
Generalisation is unbecoming
18 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
I don’t drink papsak & use TIK like Prawn – don’t associate me with her please!
18 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
@charo(charo)-61:
Have you not heard about Robert Deans’ (Robbies Great Grand Father)disallowed try for NZ against Wales in 1906.
4 years ain’t nothing charo.
Aint nothin at all.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-67:
Sorry,
I know.
And I knew better,
even as I typed.
Didn’t stop me though.
18 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
@charo(charo)-61: I dont know Charo, seems a few still whinge about 87 not being a “real” world cup… thats a little longer than 4 years isnt it?
18 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm
@cane(cane)-60: have to agree with Dawn, some have been most gracious and cant but thank them for that..
in reference to your post this replies to,
what has four legs and echoes?
SARU’s trophy cabinet
18 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
@cane(cane)-60: What a tosser. Geez I have the utmost respect for the AB’s and NZ people in general, but Cane idiots like you clearly aren’t rugby people.
18 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
kiwis whinging about south african whinging?
nom nom nom.
18 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-71:
of course
it was not
real
in ’87
it was an
invitation only
tournament
with the best
team
on the
planet
not invited
18 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-72: That’s the way I feel about NZ rugby people, in general they are knowledgable about the game we love and tend to to honest and straight talkers but like all countries also have the odd mushy brained, arrogant ring piece. Maybe all the AB supporters on this site should remember that and show they are the former and not the latter.
18 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm
One cannot really be satisfied if you win the RWC only when you host it
We won it when we hosted it in 1995 and then said fine, now lets go and do it elsewhere
Some here think that they have already won it; for their sake I hope they do as it will be a classic case of ‘pride comes before the fall’
18 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-73:
No arguement from me Skeppie.
Guilty as charged.
Now………………………………..read the entire thread, and then Nail Your Own with the same comment.
18 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
I think if we want to understand sour , ungracious and petulant fans….
we need to spend some time on silver fern.
18 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-76:
“and show they are the former and not the latter”
hah
impossible
18 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-72: HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, it is funny
OK, now for the mandatory SAFFA retort…poppa u (insert appropriate insult here) 
GL for the final…the Frogs will play well above themselves. Will be a good game I’m sure. Hopefully NZ can do it for the Southern Hemisphere…All real SA supporters will support you over the French.
18 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm
South Africa undoubtedly the greatest rugby nation ever.
That’s for sure.
Our fairness is legendary.
18 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
@Porra the Fat and Clever Speedster(Porra)-75: erm … please remind us why they weren’t invited.
18 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-77:
You didn’t win in 95.
You stole it. By poisoning the opposition.
A charge not only made by Laurie Mains, but also by the French Coach.
18 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm
C’mon guys…let the NZ posters have their time in the sun…we were good enough to dish it out so lets man up and take it for a bit…It’s all in the spirit of rugby no? Yes, some may go over the top, but we all ‘know’ each other by now to not take it personally..
18 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm
@Nils(Nils)-83:
I will save Pora-rse the trouble.
They
were
not
nice
people
to
have
around.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm
@cane(cane)-78: Ok then straight back at ya…..I hate to say it but clearly there are some of my fellow countrymen who talk out of their arses and aren’t exactly humble and good sports…like I said all countries have their bumpkins
18 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm
@cane(cane)-84:
We won that game in 1995 without them allowing Ruben Kruger’s try.
With today’s technology the TMO would have come into play and the question would have been: ‘ Is there any reason why I cannot award this try?’
The answer would have been an emphatic ‘no, you may award the try’
Cheating and all related tactics are best left to the kiwis; this nation is convinced that it cannot win anything without stealing it
We have evolved a bit further, we are already in a more advanced stage of being
18 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-76: ditto with the majority of Saffa rugby fans, and agree totally… there are some who ruin it for all countries, hell Im probably one on that list… as for the final, still not a done deal by any stretch of the imagination, and many true kiwi rugby fans will be as nervous as can be before the game… as a nation we are used to WC disappointment, so I think youll find the reasonable ones will not be assuming we’ve already won it… far from it to be honest…
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-81: cheers goldenboy, just as many kiwis backed SA in 2007… lets keep the SH dominance for a long time yet..
18 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@cane(cane)-84: We also cheated by tackling too hard and jumping too high in the lineouts…..I also heard rumours that some people in the crowd were heard to shout “Go Bokke” sjoe…definitely some theivery there
18 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm
84.cane said:
18 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-77:
You didn’t win in 95.
You stole it. By poisoning the opposition.
A charge not only made by Laurie Mains, but also by the French Coach.
Come now Cane, we are better than that! I remember 3 of the boks who played with broken bones in their bodies !! much worse that 3 or 4 of our guys having a bit of a spuit poep!! No excuses! Boks were better on the day! – they made Sean, Zinzan, Andrew & Lomu look like schoolboys
18 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
Bok legends will watch the RWC Final from the comfort of their homes with friends and family.
They will know that the winner is really an imposter; the winner of the final is really 2nd after themselves
Boks thus retained their title, in truth
18 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-88: So ref was a cheat even then?
Please keep evolving into more advanced stage, what an entertainment.
18 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-89: Dude there is no way the AB’s will lose this one…to be honest if anyones gonna win it besides us for me it had to be the AB’s not just because I have huge respect for them but they just simply deserve it…can’t be the world best team consistently for that amount of time and not deserve to win the WC
18 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-82:
Can you come up with 1 Stat. to substantiate your ludicrous statement?
Try this one Lawman.
Since reintigration into International Rugby. SA winning % against Tier 1 Nations is 42%.
This dispite SA having more registered players than NZ and Australia combined.
LOSER.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-88: evolved further? by blaming conspiracy?
ok then mr evolution..
I read on the news today that bryce took delivery of his new Maserati, the 40 foot ketch is docked outside his new mansion and that his name will definitely be on the New Years honours list for “conduct above and beyond the contracted conspiracy” (whatever that means?)
18 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-89: The French make me nervious. You guys should thrash them by all rights and yet… They are the damn Froggies.
18 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-81: Yes we do hope the ABs win in spite of how derogetary they are towards our great players, hey Cane
18 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm
Yeah I’m all for the idea of keeping the RWC trophy in the southern hemisphere
By def of southern hemisphere = South Africa
18 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm
Did anyone waych the Zinzan tribute on TV
Please update
18 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-91: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery…
cant believe this site allows others to use the same usernames again… how very amateur… come on keo, sort this rubbish out!
18 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm
@Nils(Nils)-93:
No he was not, but if he was a kiwi in all likelihood he would have been
Kiwis will remain the 2nd rugby nation forever unless Wales surpass them
Bok rugby = the essence of rugby union
18 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-97: we have bad WC history with the French, I am very worried because the more they hear they have no chance the more they are likely to really lift…
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-94: Id like to be confident like yourself, but have been burnt too many times before to walk that road again.
18 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-94:
Skeppie,
- France are the underdog, no pressure.
- France is France.
- France is NZ’s boggie Team.
- They are a better Team than their form might suggest. i.e. in the 1st half against England they were magnifique.
- NZ could be over confident.
- NZ have to lift themselves again. Harder than it might sound.
- These Froggs have ONE SHOT at immortality. One Shot to turn themselves into chick magnets. The Chick Magnet thing is very important to Le Froggie.
Anything is possible…………………………………….and they are not here to lie down.
18 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm
@cane(cane)-95:
Boks far to physical for the ABs; that is why they needed to be bryced out of this year’s tournament
Yeah the fear of the Boks run deep in the land of the white marijuana cloud
18 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-102: Whatever mate.
Until then, may enjoy the 7th/8th place playoff.
And keep posting, I enjoy it very much.
18 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm
@JL1(JL1)-98: You know Cane won’t respond to compliments…best way to get to him is…uuuhhhmmmmm…..Now NZLND could possibly do what the Boks did by holding the TN WC and 7′s crown at the same time…never been done before…but they could just follow in our footsteps…as usual
Now sit back and wait for the response
18 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm
@cane(cane)-104: Not gonna happen, the AB’s will clean the Frenchies up on the floor, edge the set pieces and pile on enough pressure to win even if it needs to be ugly. 99 can’t happen again, that was a “once-in-100years” performance
18 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-90:
True ……………………………….You Okes did start this lineout lifting stuff.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-105: YAWN… how can the boks be too physical when they will be sitting at home watching on the television like all the other “spectators” ?
18 Oct 2011, 12:36 pm
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-107: Seems we are leaders, trendsetters in rugby
18 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
I remeber the night i had s3x for the first time, think i was 25 or 26 – the lady (37 or so) asked me if i expected to score after our date – i remember telling her : A guy always expects to score, but you also prepare yourself for the worst. Thats how i feel for the final – i expect us to win – but i am prepared incase the lose! – hope this makes sense!
18 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@Nils(Nils)-106:
Mate I’m here to help you grow
You need to value people like me in your life
I show you the way…
18 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-110: It requires a stamina to hold a beer can.
18 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
The French are to you what the Aussies are tous at WCs.
Which French side turns up is anyone’s guess. The only way to keep them quiet is to score quickly at the start and again after the break.
18 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-113: Honestly, thanks, but no thanks.
I do not want to evolve into advanced stage of a clown really.
18 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-110:
Paddy threw the most physical sides in world rugby at Boks and we pulverised them
Paddy then had to go to Plan B which was orginally his Plan A – Bryce
18 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-112: no it doesnt imposter, too scared to blog under your own nick..
gutless..
what a coward..
run along schoolboy..
18 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm
… but then again – i never took a “NO” from any chick! so yeah!
18 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm
If the Kiwis win then they will be regarded World Cup Champions only in NZ; the rest of the world knows that they are 2nd after the Boks
RWC Trophy can only be associated with the Boks
18 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm
Hows this for a general question to my dear NZ compatriots……if you had to pick one NZ rugby player to bestow the title of “I’mamassivedouchebag” on, who would it be?
18 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm
Oh by the way, whatever we do, we must never forget that keo is really a kiwi at heart, now wonder it comes so easy to write article like ‘ McCaw the master’
A son after his mom’s heart
18 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-119: imposter…
18 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-100:
Yes Dawn.
Mostly a big yawn.
However Paddy O’Brien turned up.
as did,
Buck Shelford ( NZ greatest capt).
Super Sid Going,
Bernie McCahil.
Micheal Jones,
Zinny’s 5 brothers,
1 sister,
Mum and Dad,
A Primary School Teacher, who had told Zinny to ” forget rugby, that won’t make you a living”.
Also many people, to whom Zinny had shown kindness and philanthropy.
18 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-121:
James Small.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 12:50 pm
@cane(cane)-125: Dude…I said NZ rugby player…….Or are all of your warriors stand up muckers?
18 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-122:
The day before the Semi’s,
Keo was on National TV, here in NZ,
telling us all, how Aussie was going to smash us and go on to become WC Champs.
(So you are wrong again Lawman).
LOSER!!!
18 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm
@cane(cane)-125: Not Frik, Cane?
Come tell all around here what you think of one of the greatest rugby players ever
18 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-126:
Oooooooops.
1- Kevin Putt. (never made the AB’s).
2- Robbie Deans.
3- Sean Fitzpatrick.
3
18 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-118:
Mail the moderator:
roy@osoutsource.co.za
18 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm
@JL1(JL1)-128:
Frikke was a thug.
He was the Bakkies of his day.
18 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm
@cane(cane)-124:
How can anything with Zinny be a big yawn
18 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-130: thanks Dawn
18 Oct 2011, 13:00 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-132:
I’m not sure Zinzan wanted the attention Dawn.
He is actually quite shy, believe it or not.
His Wife said………….”it took him 6 months to work up the courage to ask her out”.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 13:02 pm
@cane(cane)-131: Rated with Colin Meads, yes, Colin Meads as a top 10 greates rugby player to have ever played he game.
And you call him a p r i c k
18 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm
@cane(cane)-134:
Ag man that’s so sweet!!!!!
18 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm
@cane(cane)-129: Interesting…..if I had to pick one of the current crop it would be Jimmy Cowan, he is a tosser right up there with Quade Cooper, Mike Phillips and Brian o Driscoll
18 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-137: Justin Marshall for me, no one rates him like he does himself
18 Oct 2011, 13:07 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-120: Are you drinking Sheriff?
Hahahahahahaha.
18 Oct 2011, 13:08 pm
A shame that Hansie isn’t with us anymore as he could have given Craig some good advice .
18 Oct 2011, 13:09 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-138: Aaaaah c’mon Poppa. I actually like Justin. He was so excited commentating on the match on Sunday his voice actually squeeked!
I said to Transformation, “Justin is speaking so fast and is way too hyped!”
18 Oct 2011, 13:09 pm
Be funny as heck if he blocks the wrong popper.
18 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
Shane Watson is the new hansie!
18 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
@superba(superba)-140: Are you advocating that we must laud famous SA cheaters?
Surely a new low huh?
18 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
@JL1(JL1)-135:
I do look at the world through rainbow tinted glasses JL.
I NEVER said he was not a great player.
Just that he was a prick…………………………a thug.
Sir Colin had a little mongrel in him as well. Though not to the extent of Frikke.
18 Oct 2011, 13:11 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-138: Very good commentator and studio pundit. In fact one of the few who call it the way they see it
Nice guy in real life
18 Oct 2011, 13:13 pm
Robin Brooke?? isn’t he the bloke who touched 15 year old girls>??
18 Oct 2011, 13:14 pm
@JL1(JL1)-146: ok have heard conflicting reports about him, never met him so only going on conjecture…. great player though..
18 Oct 2011, 13:16 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-137:
Jimmy is a little misunderstood.
He suffers from (or did suffer from) low self esteem.
He never thought of himself as being worthy of being an AB.
This caused problems with Alcoholic binge drinking etc.
But he has come through this I think. Perhaps it was Bakkies tap to his head that rectified things in this area.
18 Oct 2011, 13:16 pm
@cane(cane)-145: Of course not, Colin Meads must be a little cherub in your opinion
18 Oct 2011, 13:17 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-105:
Your fellow countrymen must be very embarrassed by your posts but we love them.
Keep em coming – as much as you like.
18 Oct 2011, 13:19 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-147:
Yes ……………………………………apparently Gert Mulder sent him post card telling him how great it was.
18 Oct 2011, 13:20 pm
@JL1(JL1)-150:
Big cherub JL.
Big cherub.
8)
18 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
@cane(cane)-131: Frik du Preez of whom it was said after Northern Transvaal beat WP in the 1969 Currie Cup final: “Hy score, hy drop en hy place.” For those too young to remember that, and also for the benefit of those who don’t understand Afrikaans, Du Preez scored a try, landed a drop goal and also kicked a penalty in a Man of the Match performance. So the translation is: “He scored, he succeeded with a drop-goal and kicked a place kick (ie penalty).”
18 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
@cane(cane)-149: He is still not worthy of being an All Black
Piri,Byron and Marshall better that him, even now with some of them sitting in a studio or eating fromage
18 Oct 2011, 13:24 pm
@ cambok – so did naas botha …. you left out that he was a LOCK!!!!
18 Oct 2011, 13:25 pm
@cane(cane)-109: …and the scrum hald dive pass
18 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@Inevitable(Inevitable)-151: He sounds like Ben Stiller in Starsky and Hutch, after the dance off competition…..”we was robbed!!!!”
18 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@JL1(JL1)-157: hald=half
18 Oct 2011, 13:27 pm
@rossoneri(rossoneri)-158: …and on que a traitor arrives
18 Oct 2011, 13:34 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-156:Apologies, I should have stated that. He was a great lock but first played for the Boks in 1961 as a flank. And you’re right, those three different scores in the 1969 CC final were special only because he was a lock
18 Oct 2011, 13:44 pm
@cane(cane)-131: Hey Cane, did you know that after du Preez was named Springbok of the Century, Colin Meads named him the best he played against. And Willie John MacBride described du Preez as the best player he ever played against (came up against him in the 1968 series agaianst Tom Kiernan’s British Lions).
18 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
Frik du Preez & Danie Gerber = the Tendulkar & Bradman of rugby!
18 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
@poppa69(p0ppa69)-163: Nicely put! Old enough to remember Gerber play. A genius with a ball.
18 Oct 2011, 14:05 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-48:
@poppa69(poppa69)-52:
easy there poppie…you havn’t won the thing yet…dont wanna set yourself up for the mother of all ‘foot in mouth’ incidences…
otherwise, pray tell it wont be so, for the next four years i’ll be the one ‘loving it’…
18 Oct 2011, 14:26 pm
@cane(cane)-149: Well for his sake that’s good to hear, I supose some of the biggest tossers on the field are actually really nice guys off it so fair enough. I must say that was the only name I could think of…..
18 Oct 2011, 15:57 pm
…well of course Henry is thrilled that Joubert will ref the final, he was kakking it that it might end up being some retarded ozzie or even worse…a home town kiwi ref like Bryce Lawrence.
probably the first instance in the history of the game when a team would not want a home town ref for purely “rugby reasons”.
18 Oct 2011, 16:32 pm
@cambok(cambok)-162:
Don’t waste your energy Cambok. Facts are simply not relevant when it comes to Bok players.
18 Oct 2011, 17:04 pm
This is a very interesting read, it gives you an idea of how kiwis think and cheat … during master plan Mitch said he was surprised that Gatland did not resort to cheating.
” The Wales coach Warren Gatland was so incensed with what he felt was an unjust red card shown to his captain, Sam Warburton,early in the first half that he considered retaliating by cheating and ordering a prop to fake an injury so that scrums would have become uncontested.
Wales were immediately in trouble up front after Warburton’s dismissal for a dangerous tackle on the France wing Vincent Clerc, one man down and the tight-head prop Adam Jones had already been replaced after tearing a calf muscle. They used the centre Jamie Roberts as an eighth forward on attacking scrums.”
Inbread kiwi cheating phuckers.
18 Oct 2011, 21:08 pm
I’m confused, what did you expect Henry to say …
18 Oct 2011, 21:10 pm
That’s like quoting Henry in saying that he expects the French to be up for it and that they are a very good side …
18 Oct 2011, 21:36 pm
@cambok(cambok)-162: Meads also named Walter Spanghero of France as his most difficult opponent ever. He’s a diplomat, is old Pinetree!
19 Oct 2011, 01:47 am
Having watched Aus-Boks game again, phew, BL biased my foot. So many times Boks went from the side (hello, Habana/Burger & Co.), Burger reaching the face of Pocock, Aussies tackled in the air, Brussow in his mere 18 minutes managing to play on the floor etc. etc. (yawn … ) etc. etc.
All unpunished.
Of course, Aussies were unpunished in many instances, too.
Lawrence was VERY lenient indeed. To both sides. Biased? Only in SA but we are used to cyclops.
By they way, in that case you should give away BIL victory. It was Bryce who gave it on the plate.
19 Oct 2011, 01:56 am
@Nils(Nils)-173: you never say anything useful. If you did, you would reference game times for your accusations, but hey, you probably have Real Madrid losers, hoping for attention on Barcelona forums (not).
On the ref: Joubert last honest man standing?
19 Oct 2011, 01:57 am
And what’s more, the last crucial penalty was given not by Bryce – he, as usual, turned blind eye (but I’m sure moaning okes conveniently skipped that). It was spotted by the assistant.
A FRENCHMAN (hello, HG).
Poite, to be exact.
19 Oct 2011, 01:58 am
@svs(svs)-174: hi, cyclop.
19 Oct 2011, 02:12 am
@svs(svs)-174: One example, cyclop, 57:18 see Burger coming from the side and gently trying rip off Pococks head.
19 Oct 2011, 02:13 am
Starting with his eyes, as he loves to do.
19 Oct 2011, 02:20 am
And 59:05 JP Pietersen tries to rip off Ioane’s head while tackling him in the air, cyclop. see, mere 2 minutes full of unpunished ****.
19 Oct 2011, 02:31 am
Oh, and tell me what the kind of rocket is Spies (18:21), a V2? And what Brussow is doing on the floor at 19:02, cyclop?
19 Oct 2011, 02:48 am
And say hello, cyclop, to Habana at 15:12, Bryce soon penalized Jannie duP while Habana repeatedly came from the side earlier.
19 Oct 2011, 03:01 am
hey, listen to that Nils….
silence
19 Oct 2011, 03:02 am
And Morne Steyn’s should charge on Ioane without the ball, when he was racing away 43:31, cyclop.
19 Oct 2011, 03:03 am
maybe there are some chicken bones stuck in some throats causing an automatic and uncontrolable reflex
19 Oct 2011, 03:07 am
@hashi(hashi)-182: If Bryce were biased, Burger surely would have been sent off or at least binned for 10 mins. But he must have soft spot for him, spared in BIL series, when he should have seen red in the very 1st min.
Nah, Bryce was too lenient.
19 Oct 2011, 03:08 am
@hashi(hashi)-184: Chicken bones from a well earned braai at home?
19 Oct 2011, 03:12 am
Remember guys.
Always always always take care when eating braai’d chicken while watching the final on TV.
19 Oct 2011, 03:13 am
@hashi(hashi)-187: Good one. Point taken.
How’s 7th/8th place playoff with England? (I know, it’s a 4 year old joke)
19 Oct 2011, 03:20 am
@Nils(Nils)-188: How’s 7th/8th place playoff with England?
Answer: Who Cares?
19 Oct 2011, 03:23 am
@hashi(hashi)-189: Indeed.
19 Oct 2011, 03:24 am
@hashi(hashi)-189: Cheers, have a great tomorrow.
19 Oct 2011, 03:28 am
Slightly off topic however.
The NZRU has already begun planning for 2015. Dingo will win another 4 year tearm with the Wobblies, and plans are in motion to install John “its a journey” Mitchell as the new Boks coach. The NZRU already has a secret mission underway to have Tana taking over coaching duties for Les Blues and Sean Fitzpatrick to coach England. They already have Wales. They already have the refs in the pocket. The final piece of the puzzel will be to get real control of the IRB.
19 Oct 2011, 03:35 am
@hashi(hashi)-192: Nice. POB let it badly slip last time.
No more from now on.
20 Oct 2011, 05:42 am
from NZ Herald:
Joubert is a breath of fresh air in the once stuffy corridors of world rugby refereeing. He has clear views about the game and about the referee’s role. He does his job with a calm, unemotional tone.
Take refereeing accountability. The South African said referees should be open to the media.
“Yes, and even admit we were wrong if that was the case,” he says. “I see no harm in this. Not one hour after a game because you need time to reflect, perhaps study the tape.
But maybe the next morning.
“If it helps explain situations and decisions to a wide rugby audience that may not have understood certain calls, so much the better. I think it is possible that might come into the game in the years to come. We will see.
“We are all in this game because we love it. So I don’t see why there can’t be a relationship between referees and the media which is open and honest.”
He says modern players are clever about exploring the boundaries of the rulebook.
“Players at the top of the game are very up to speed with the laws” is his diplomatic way of putting it. “They certainly know the finer aspects of the law. They go out every weekend to see to what extent they can push the boundaries. And they will play to the latitude you give them.
“Our job is about creating an environment where boundaries are set and then they will react to them.”
Joubert espouses a creed whereby respect is probably mutual. Go out and treat players like children in a schoolmasterly manner and the chances are, they’ll behave as such. Treat them like adults, respect them and there is more likelihood they will respond in kind.
“You have to deliver your message authoritatively, but with respect. Treat them like men, not children. They are grown men and none of us like being treated like children.”
Joubert has been refereeing since he was 16. He eschewed a playing career to focus on officiating so for someone of just 33, he has a huge amount of experience. His appointment for the final is a triumph for that strategy and a tribute to his much-loved late father, Des, also a referee, who died when Joubert was 17.
“When he died it was a tough blow to get over. I was really close to him as a man but also we shared the refereeing. I hope he is sitting up there somewhere watching. I like to think that.”
Joubert is a highly professional, meticulous operator of his craft. And given his age he is likely to rewrite all refereeing records before he finishes.
On the field, the South African offers a countenance of resolute calm. But is it like the duck on water, body serene but out of sight legs going like the clappers?
“There is definitely an element of that. These occasions do get the blood pumping. Before a game, I am like the players; I get nervous and have butterflies in my stomach. But I like that, it means you are keyed up and ready for an important task.
“I think it is important players out there look to me for some level of calm, some rational thinking. If I start looking flustered and out of control it’s a really bad brand to put on the game.
“I have worked hard to make sure my exterior is calm and rational. That comes with experience. Refereeing is so much about having confidence, telling yourself you have been through these experiences before. In my early days, sometimes I used to referee four games in a day so I have had a huge amount of experience.”
And afterwards? The adrenalin and emotion will still be pumping into the wee small hours of Monday morning. Mentally, he says, you are shattered after a game. “But that buzz and adrenalin that has been built up all day certainly means you struggle to switch off. Going straight to sleep isn’t easy even though mentally you are drained.”
20 Oct 2011, 06:09 am
Well Jake white is on a charm offensive in NZ, looking for a job on the all black coaching team no doubt. You saffas have learnt a thing or two from us!
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