Comments on: Kiwis plan victory parade

By: stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)

stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:04:35 +0000

@TheTackler(TheTackler)-674: Well Tackles when you are scheduled to play the worst team ever to make the final in the history of the comp and you are playing at home there has to be some expectaion of success, even if that victory is a one point triumph over a side beaten by 5 points by Tonga.

By: TheTackler(TheTackler)

TheTackler(TheTackler) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:40:09 +0000

So, making decent plans for the AB victory parade appears to have been a very wise move….

By: Robzim(Robzim)

Robzim(Robzim) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:24:01 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-672: It is your choice whether you believe Rory Steyn or not. And of course it is your choice to whinge till the cows come home- and in the process just further strenghten the perception that many Boks supporters are ungracious sore losers. Just for the record, I am NOT an AB fan- but I am also not so blindly patriotic that I do not see the good in other teams, players and countries or the good contributions that foreign bloggers make on this site. And this "the whole world is against us and out to get us" conspiracy complot that some Saffers here claim, is as pathetic as it is without foundation or truth. But anyway, life goes on.... we are all different,..so whatever you think does not mean much to me...and vice versa.

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:57:38 +0000

oh robzim nice try, couldn’t care what Rory Steyn wrote, nz’s complaints about food poisoning, pathetic, love it when you call kiwis and aussies out on their own nonsense, as for bitterness about what, i just don’t worship the ground every other wannabe all black glory supporter on this site ascribes to, I guess that is you. In 1999 every damn kiwi, all said the cup is theirs, all they have to do is turn up, same thing in 2007, Springboks so-called fluked it, nonsense, kiwi rugby supporters are arrogant, they don’t like being called out.
The amount of dribble losers like the tackler and kiakahanz write about the springboks everytime, they seem to spend an awful lot of time on a south african blogging site.
Go and blog about the sunshine shining out of the all blacks *** over there, I for one don’t give a **** about the NZ or Aus, fact is this world cup referees have been poor, especially kiwi refs and that had an outcome on the aus game. So if I whinge about it, I will, because, I can, Kiwis and Aussies do the same.
Go and support the All Blacks, I support the Springboks, that’s life and will never change, I am certainly not bitter about NZ, have no desire to go there or live there.

By: Robzim(Robzim)

Robzim(Robzim) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:20:32 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-670: You are only showing your ignorance of the issue and also lots of bitterness. Re the poisoning, do some research and go an read up about the issue before you comment - there is a book by one of the most respected high level security guys in SA-Rory Steyn- he was amongst others head of security to people like Nelson Mandela and the SA cricket team to name a few- and you will find that he confirmed that nearly the whole team miraculously became as sick as dogs the night before the game and that he could not believe they would be able to play a rugby game the next day. Now why would a good patriotic south african lie about something like that? And remember that unlike you or any of us here on keo, he was there in person and witnessed it.

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:02:54 +0000

Ha ha, KiaKahaNZ, sufficient evidence, have you ever had food poisoning, no way you would be able to play 100 min of rugby, off course there is a link black panther, whinging is whinging, except when Aus and NZ do it, they don’t call it that.
This world cup is has been poor, the referees, have been very poor, why on earth Paddy O Brien is the head of referees, only dumb and dumber, will know, he was a pathetic ref.
To all the so-called springbok supporters sucking up to the all blacks and glory supporters, go and blog about sheep, rain, mud and country towns like Auckland.

By: JL1(JL1)

JL1(JL1) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:03:56 +0000

@KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)-667: Sufficient evidence is vomitting next to the field

Hahaha, so it is not that you could have had a stomach bug?

I was vomitting the other day, do you think that someone poisoned me?

By: Black Panther(Black Panther)

Black Panther(Black Panther) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:44:09 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-662:

no link, whatsoever, between “whinging” about a 1-off poisoning, and incessant whinging about the referees influence of a result.

The only match the ABs have complained about the ref – and that to their employers NZRU only – was in 2007. The French RU subsequently congratulated AB for their grace shown in the circumstances.

Hard to remember a Bok-loss when the Captain, team and Management did NOT blame the ref. Can you remember any ?

By: KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ)

KiaKahaNZ(KiaKahaNZ) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:27:18 +0000

Maximus – are you saying the All Blacks were not poisoned in 1995? I am saying they were, and furthermore there was sufficient evidence. Were you there at the final? Did you see several All Blacks vomitting on the sideline?

I am not saying it was an excuse that we did not win because of that, equal to the fact SA did not lose necessarily because of Bryce Lawrence.

Just because SA won in 1995, why dont you put the result to one side and consider the truth for one moment. You cant, because you choose not to, You elect to ignore the facts, because you feel it would dilute the performance of SA that day.

We lost in 1995 because we did not secure enough points, SA defended very well, and kicked a drop goal when they needed to, in extra time. Its fair to say there was very little between those two teams that day. One kick, that could equally have missed. One persons responsibility. Same as 2003 between Aus and England.

By: captain fantail(captain fantail)

captain fantail(captain fantail) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:03:08 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-664: Boo Hoo. @malcolm(malcolm)-665: But we were poisoned. I know Suzie's mother who is Maximus' sister in law by marriage to his third cousin and his half brothers child...;-)

By: malcolm(malcolm)

malcolm(malcolm) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:48:06 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-664: Being a true Springbok supporter does not mean one has to use the ref as an excuse every single time we lose. That is just pathetic. I could have written BEFORE the Aussie game that if we lost it would be according to most our 'true''supporters because of the ref. Nothing annoys me more when NZ supporters blame being poisoned for '95 or when the Aussies and New Zealanders claim we did not deserve to win in 2007 because we did not play one of them. The same is true when we do not win. The facts are we had plenty oppertunities to win against the Aussies despite Lawrence and we blew it. It also is true that none of our performances in the last 2 years would point to us beating the All Blacks in New Zealand so to imply they would purposely fix a game out of fear for the boks is just plain stupid.

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:15:43 +0000

oh malcolm you are talking dribble
Bryce Lawrence definitely had an outcome on that game, if that had been a referee from the Northern hemisphere, anywhere else except NZ or Aus, Pocock would have been sin-binned, the springboks took their chances, Lawrence performance nullified that in every aspect.
Wayne Barnes performance was nothing compared to that performance, sad but true.
How about cases in judicial hearings, South Africa always are at the end of of a raw deal, Kevin Mealamu punched a player only got 2 weeks, a South African does that and gets six weeks, pathetic.
To all real Springbok supporters, stop apologizing to these idiots.
VIVA FRANCE

By: fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)

fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:14:38 +0000

hmm, one thing i believe the kiwis on here have got a really good point with is the fact that when the same thing happened to them in 07, everyone just laughed and gave little sympathy… the same thing has now happened to us so we shouldn’t really expect any sympathy from them.

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:54:03 +0000

black panther, the glory all black supporters on this site keep sayiing south africans are whinging, hell they whinged in 1995, claiming they were poisoned, that is the pot calling the kettle black, that is the comparison.

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:51:32 +0000

To all the glory All blacks supporters and springbok wannabe All Blacks sucking up supporters, get a life, go and blog on your own rugby sites in NZ.

By: Black Panther(Black Panther)

Black Panther(Black Panther) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:47:39 +0000

@maximus1(maximus1)-659: please explain the link between 'poisoning' and 'referees' ?

By: maximus1(maximus1)

maximus1(maximus1) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:46:38 +0000

KiakahaNZ
The all blacks whinged in1995 when they claimed they were poisoned, so your comments about South Africans and the referee, don’t hold much sway.
Don’t worry you have a good ref that will blow the game fairly, unlike the crappy aussie and kiwi refs,”sensible south africans” as you stated will make it a good spectacle, as for the 80000 Saffas living in your crappy mud island, who cares, I wouldn’t live there if you paid me a million dollars.

By: malcolm(malcolm)

malcolm(malcolm) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:19:58 +0000

In 2007 Derrick Barnes had a shocker as ref in the NZ France game. He made some serious blunders but he did NOT cost the All Blacks the game. New Zealand had numerous opportunities to win and they simply did not take their many chances. In 2011 the boks had a very poor ref in their match against the Australians. He never refereed the breakdowns and this after Brussow left the field meant that Pocock had a field day. Despite this the Boks had numerous chances to win the game. They also blew these chances. Both South Africa and Samoa were unhappy with the ref in their encounter and Wales were not satisfied to say the least with the ref in their encounters with South Africa and France. Many of the minnow nations have also complained about the referees. The All Blacks have not been run close this world cup so the standard of referees has not been a factor yet. Had the Wallaby vs. All Black game been close the sending off of SBW by Joubert may have had New Zealand’s opinion of him change drastically. My point is that the standard of the officials has not been great for some time and needs to be worked on. Interpretations seem to vary from ref to ref but it is not some giant conspiracy to favour certain teams and generally the most deserving team tends to win the cup by the conclusion of the tournament.

By: Nils(Nils)

Nils(Nils) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:42:11 +0000

@Hurricane(Hurricane)-656: You know the rules. Boks win or are cheated of victory. Blacks lose or get away with cheating. Simple.

By: Hurricane(Hurricane)

Hurricane(Hurricane) — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:38:34 +0000

@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-646: Hang on, are you saying the games in 2009 tri nations were corrupt and match fixed? How about the Lions tour of SA, was there also corruption to get the favoured outcome for SA? Boy Geroge i think you are onto something here. The British Lions teams was so much better than the boks. Dude you should have said something then cos unfairly you now look to be a sore loser. I am on your side my brother.