KeoTV: Dagg’s a class apart

KeoTV: Dagg’s a class apart

20 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE says All Blacks fullback Israel Dagg has been the best player at the 2011 World Cup.


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  • 251.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:45 am

    What i do blame Smit for is not saying in the quarter. Guys this ref aint going to give us penalties and he is letting the Aussies run riot at ruck time.

    Steyn go for drop goals when we are in the 22!!

  • 252.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-243:

    The main sticking point on the interior renovations was the jacuzzi issue.

    One faction in Cabinet supported a jacuzzi for each wife, whilst the more laissez-faire elements called for one giant jacuzzi to foster an esprit de corps.

    Fearing a polokwane sized rift in the party and being a disciple of consensus politics mshlozi went for both options.

    Furthermore it seems the census people stopped by at the father of the nation’s house on Monday.

    Apparently they are still there.

    Counting.

  • 253.stew: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:48 am

    @captain fantail(captain fantail)-13: Cant believe you guys dont like the Throat slitter – i think it is far intense and to be honest my family turn the TV up full blast to enjoy it more ( even though my girls and better half are traitorous Saffas) … It has full entertainment value and still gives me goosebumps , maybe it is a kiwi thing but be gauranteed you will see it on Sunday

  • 254.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:49 am

    With upsets you have to go big or go home.
    It doesn’t get any bigger than this weekend

  • 255.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:50 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-250: okay…

  • 256.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:52 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-239:

    This whole who is going to be future Bok captain business is futile really. There are so many players/youngsters that are built up as captain supremos that it seems that it seems to their “destiny”,sometimes has sense of entitlement to it-maybe not so much from the players themselves but their “community”. A few years ago it was Joe van Niekerk, then Gerrit van Velze,Chilliboy Rallapelle,Dewalt Potgieter,now CJ Stander…..Any trend you see???

    In my opinion Juan Smith should be post rwc skipper for 2 years then pass it on to Burger till RWC 2015.(Burger is only 28) Similiar to what AB’s are goping to do i think-McCaw for next 2 years then Read from 2013-beyond.

    Then next generation can jostle for leadership places within that period. But please no more talk of Bismark/Spies etc as Bok captains

  • 257.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:52 am

    So much to comment on, so little space:

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-236:

    What could be better than a headboy of Affies/Waterkloof type? That’s like the ultimate leadership qualities I can think of. Westpoint material.

    @Transformation(Transformation)-239:

    Potgieter’s sole limiting factor is his lack of size. Which is why CJ and Arno will be replacing him in the Bulls team before long. They have the necessary beef to add to their ability.

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-246:

    Most would argue that had Matfield captained the Boks at this World Cup we would have progressed a heck of a lot farther than we did under Barney’s leadership. So your argument doesn’t really make sense.

    To conclude:

    These are future leadership candidates. I’m sure other provinces have equally talented individuals, but if these individuals are of the same age as Stander and Botha, they were captained by the above two individuals at junior level.

    Anyway, a lot will still happen in the next few years. Quite exciting, really.

  • 258.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:54 am

    Auckland Herald 24 October 2011 – Possible Headline

    Kiwis smash Frogs in one sided affair
    or
    Overnight riots and burning of trains and labrador puppies bring Auckland to halt.

  • 259.DocNZ: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:56 am

    @stew(stew)-253: I hope we see it. This is a Haka unique to this team , I am sure that after Sundays game a few might retire and it will be fitting for them to do it one last time .

    Just watched the throast slitting stuff on the nz herald site , man the guys from Tonga were really up to it and really aprecaited the Ka Mate .

    Forget who should be captain, pick the bok coach first …!

  • 260.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:57 am

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-256:

    …or we could do a Greame Smith / Sam Warburton and invest in a youngster like Bekker or de Jongh.

    Groom the guy and give him the support he needs to grow

  • 261.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:57 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-252: “Cost estimates for these included R55m for a road; a fence at R42m; “Gate 1, 2 & dog unit” (R25.7m); electrical reticulation (R22m); outer boundary fence (R19.7m); generator room and substation (R15m); and, “Gate 1,2,4 & 5” (R13.2m).”

    Someone’s not getting three quotes. Naughty, naughty.

  • 262.Schalk is Pote Fouries daughter: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:58 am

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10760467&ref=rss

  • 263.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 10:58 am

    @Helen(Helen)-260:

    Bekker ain’t a youngster. He is 28 years old.

    De Jongh? Haha.

  • 264.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-256: look it didn’t help that Eric Sauls who is he Head of Blue Bulls High Performance was the U20 coach and picked at any point 8 to 11 Bulls players in the Baby Boks squad. goodness knows what Courtnall Skosan was doing in the team vs England in Italy when Tshotsho Mbovane was riding the wood!

  • 265.cane: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

    @DocNZ(DocNZ)-259:

    Take a look at this.

    Peri’s throat slitting a bit over the top.

    Funny as hell.

    http://youtu.be/hd68leOH1C4

  • 266.au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir...: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:00 am

    @stew(stew)-253:
    no, its the long pauses inbetween the dancing that puts me off the new one.
    i like the throat slitting bit and in fact think they could be even more explicit about it.
    but, as i said its the long pauses like when they go on their knees and just hang there mid haka…why stop?
    it would look better and be more appealing imo if they did it in one gracefull continuous routine with minimal short stops.
    you know…like the tempo and rhythm needs working on, but otherwise its fine.

  • 267.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:01 am

    To make sure we don’t end up with another Smit / Teichman / Pienaar incident, we should have a squad of captains who are then individually appointed to captain certain tournaments or tours.

    That way, we have the freedom of dropping a captain that doesn’t make the team and we empower more than one leader.

    In such a case, I’d pick Burger, Smith, Bekker, de Jongh, Lambie and Bismarck to form our leadership core

  • 268.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:01 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-263:

    Bekker is a Mr Sicknote and so is Brussouw.

    Mine as well get used to them being on the side-line

    Let’s hope Brussouw takes extra time to recover and comes back injury free. We need him

  • 269.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:01 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-263:

    Really!!!!

    I thought Bekker was still a youngster, 25 / 26 – ish?

  • 270.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

    choose best of the best Head Coach first and foremost….

    1 chance…

    1 farken chance

    or we sit with bloody 3 stooges again

  • 271.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

    @Helen(Helen)-260: uyabhanxa wena

  • 272.Mike H: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:02 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-261:

    Lol you 2 :) funny ****’ers :)

  • 273.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:03 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-261:

    R22mil for a dog entrance?

    …and I thought my chihauhau had it good!

  • 274.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:05 am

    @Mike H(Mike H)-268:

    Agreed.

  • 275.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:05 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-257: If you’re planning to stage a high school concert and a school newspaper, write some cheerleader songs, debate a few issues around appearance and discipline and kickstart all of this with skriflesing and gebed, then your guys are definitely right for the job.

    Westpoint my arse. CSV kringleiers, more like it.

  • 276.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:06 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-275:

    Hey, I was a CSV kringleier..

  • 277.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:07 am

    dewalt potgieter is a far better player at 8 than that useless wally spies….that is where he should be playing for bulls

  • 278.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:07 am

    @Helen(Helen)-273: Shhh! Capo still reads keo. He’ll think you’re talking about cosmetic surgery.

  • 279.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:08 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-261:

    I fancy a stab at Gate 1 & 2 Dog unit @ R 25.7 bar.

    Maevis is on her way to Builder’s Warehouse and the SPCA as we speak.

    If all goes well, we can have a stab at the boundary fence.

  • 280.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:09 am

    what the fark is a CSV Kringleier?

    Sounds like a leader of a masturba tion society!

  • 281.corporal punishment: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:10 am

    Best world cup 1995 without a doubt. Far more tries scored in the knockout section, final excepted. Jonah lomu’s performances, and such an intense final going to extra time!

    This tournament has been good, but I don’t think the rugby from the big teams has been of the same standard.

    Best player ever – I don’t see how you could choose. Nice of you saffas to pick cullen, but there are other candidates including Ella, Jonathan Davies, matfield, gerber, etc.

    It was a shame Cullen missed he 95 world cup, it was a travesty to play him at centre in 99. He probably should have gone in 99 as well, tho injuries had robbed him of his topend speed by ben.

  • 282.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:11 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-276: The defense rests, your honour.

  • 283.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:11 am

    @grant10(grant10)-280:

    Hehe. Something from a bygone era, I think.

  • 284.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:12 am

    @Helen(Helen)-273:

    we’re not talking about vajazzling your pet here.

    this is mshlozi’s safety.

    apparently people have tried to bump him off before.

    no price is too high.

  • 285.corporal punishment: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:14 am

    The tri nations games between the ab’s and boks will be somethin to look forward to next year. This year’s TN was pretty lame with understrength teams playing. new coaches for boy rams next year will see some full on confrontations between the old foes.

  • 286.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:14 am

    @grant10(grant10)-270:

    Applying basic logic, Miitchell does not want it !!, Mallet does not want it, Meyer does not want it , Venter won’t be offered it , Rassie won’t take it, Gatland re-signed with Wales, White also unavailable, that leaves:

    Plum , Coetzee, PDEV

    Think we need to make peace with the fact that reality will dictate that AC will get it, just cannot see any other coach getting it.

    I personally lay the blame at the doors of some of the egotistical coaches above who are all bek but are not willing to put their hands up !!

  • 287.DocNZ: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:14 am

    @cane(cane)-265: I lol’ed , kinda of thing HG would love …..

    If people dont like it , then dont watch it , go make a cup of coffee when it is on.

  • 288.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:15 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-276: Ek was ook!

  • 289.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:16 am

    @cane(cane)-265:

    Hilarious!!!

  • 290.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:16 am

    @Helen(Helen)-273:

    A chihauhau is a dog ?? Surely not :)

  • 291.Bismarck Burger: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:16 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-286: Eddie Jones?
    He was quoted in the Sunday times as interested but “heard it was already offered to someone”

  • 292.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:17 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-257:

    Whether Matfield captained Boks at RWC 11 is irrelevant, there was no ways Boks were going to win that quarter final game with Lawrence reffing breakdown in the manner he did.Matfield also wouldnt have changed that,he has never had a good rapport with any of the refs really, often gets upset & loses his cool-many a time have seen him told to step away by refs so he was unlikely to sway Lawrence in any favourable manner to Bok cause.And missed opportunities from Du Preez,fwd passes etc wouldnt have been changed by Matfield “captaincy”.Same with Smit on that day.

    So that argument holds little water neither. If you and others want to blame Smit for quarter final loss-go ahead but its hardly accurate nor is it objective.

    @Helen(Helen)-260:

    Not a big fan of that way of thought. Big fat success Smith has been,instead his tenure as Proteas captain was possibly the most controversial with the most upheavals and formation of player cabals etc especially early in his career hubris of youth plagues his captaincy.Not a great leader in my books.Warburton cost his team in the biggest game of Wales rugby history with a red card.

    So those 2 arent good examples….

  • 293.corporal punishment: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:18 am

    Got a ticket to the final today, and flights booked. Waited until mrs punishment had left to visit her parents in the SI before booking it all – EXPENSIVE!

    Can’t wait to get up to Auckland and experience the atmosphere. Has been a bit of an anti climax in welly, since the last qf here.

  • 294.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:18 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-279: I just don’t get it.

    Even if you look past the lavishness (does he need a sauna room?), how on earth can any of that cost that kind of money?

    The most expensive SA real estate were those two penthouse Waterfront apartments, at around R100mil each. So what the fck can possibly cost R400mil?

    Is he using Juju’s company? Because I hear they’re not cheap.

  • 295.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-286: yip….

    Bloody grootbek Mallet wants the pom job…

    Brendon wants to fark around with Saravcens

    and Mitchell wants to turn Lions into super 15 force……

    I can live with Mitchells wishes….noble and it assists us anyway….

    But mallet and venter need to man up !

  • 296.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:19 am

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-278:

    bwhwhahahaha….

    Not MY dog entrance!

  • 297.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:20 am

    @Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-291:

    Possibly !!!…………………… personally I am not a huge EJ fan, but would not be too upset should he get the job !!!

  • 298.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    @grant10(grant10)-295:

    Where’s Christie Noble and Chester Williams?

    Will they apply for the top job?
    I hope so.
    That will make AC look like the best option and will keep Grant from slashing his way through bank queues with a panga

  • 299.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    @Helen(Helen)-296:

    True …………..a mousehole would suffice !!

  • 300.grant10: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 11:21 am

    @corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-293: have a blast mate

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