KeoTV: Dagg’s a class apart

KeoTV: Dagg’s a class apart

20 Oct 2011

RYAN VREDE says All Blacks fullback Israel Dagg has been the best player at the 2011 World Cup.


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  • 401.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-392: @Connag(1112Connag)-397: What do you call Johan Meuwessen then? :lol:

  • 402.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-396: I wouldnt say incompetent… Give credit where it is due.

  • 403.Connag: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-399: The sheep farmers gonna get shagged? What justice. Joubert just needs to put in a similar performance to Lawrence.

  • 404.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-401: Did Meuwessen ref in a World Cup? Twisted…

  • 405.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-399: zuma was just a passenger/ figurehead, he got used. hollow victory for him.

  • 406.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-404: His very “nature” is to cheat for his own country right?

  • 407.ufo: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-352:

    if i may answer your question…?

    unequivocally, yes… even if white players were marginalised… i would still support the boks just as vociferously… even if every player and entire coaching staff was black…

    i would also be interested to hear the answer to that same question from all the saffa AB supporters…

    if there were no white players in the bok team… would you all still support the ABs…?

  • 408.cane: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-390:

    Watch the game again with BOTH EYES OPEN.

    You Okes got away with just as much as the Aussies.

    YOU LOST.
    Suck it up.

    You had 68% of possession and forced the Aussies to take twice the number tackles you had to make.

    But your Team was just plain dumb. Boks had the tactical nous of Neanderthals.

    And when you lost you cried like babies……………………………… all the way home.

    Australia on the other hand were gracious losers last weekend.

  • 409.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-394: Why do you support the Boks?

  • 410.David: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-385:
    I made the same point the other night, but I think black people not identifying with the Boks is a lot easier to understand. If you think back 4 years when the Springbok emblem was also under threat, the number of bloggers here who were almost hysterical in claiming that the ANC were attempting to take over “their” game and symbol? That had nothing to do with patriotism as a SA national team, regardless of its name, wouldn’t change. I can fully understand why a number of black South Africans agree with them, that the Springboks represent the old order.

  • 411.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm

    Johan Meuwessen is a dirty cheat !

  • 412.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-407: good for you :D

  • 413.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-400: No. Being understated. Humble even.

  • 414.cane: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:47 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-393:

    8)

    That’s the spirit …………………..(I think).

  • 415.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:47 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-409: they’re the South African national rugby team.

  • 416.Bryce Dickhead Lawrence: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm

    @cane(cane)-408:

    http://blogs.sport24.co.za/David-Mac/bryce-lawrence-lord-of-the-whistles-17-Oct-2011

    Read the above, speak then, Mr Blind (get it?).

  • 417.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:49 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-407: UFO it’s not the same thing. You are saying you would support a collection of players on the pitch that are of colour.

    We are saying, would you do so, if you knew that there was a system in place in Saru, where all white kids playing rugby, and current white players will never ever, ever represent the Boks, or the franchises and the best they’ll achieve is playing for fun. Would you then still support the Boks. :lol:

  • 418.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-406: No… Take a Caped Crusader. What is their “nature”?

    - treachery?
    - self-hate?
    - betrayal?

    No, maybe none of those. It could just be that they support who they think is the best team… The “shiny, glittery” team…

    Like magpies, they just want to steal and appropriate shiny, glittery things and place them in their nests…

    Its part of their scavenging “nature”.

  • 419.ufo: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-412:

    please ask the the saffa AB supporters the same question…

    surely in the interests of a full debate your question is just a valid to them…? and just as enlightening to everyone else…?

    or are you only interested asking the difficult questions of bok supporters…?

  • 420.Connag: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm

    @cane(cane)-408: As gracious as you in 2007.
    Your mob have rode on the backs of your cheating cousins since 1992. Oz refs get the yarpies Kiwi get the yarpies. Kissing cousins.
    This World Cup has been manipulated to ensure an AB win. So hollow if you win.
    1987 all over again hollow, hollow hollow.

  • 421.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-415: Would you say it comes from a mentality of being on the outside, and being desperate to have your chance and feel emotionally entitled to be included on the inside. Whereas for me, it’s being on the outside, and vowing never to touch the inside with a 10 foot pole.

  • 422.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm

    @cane(cane)-408: sshit talker! how many tries did you score on australia with 60% possession? 1, how many drop goals? 1, how many penalties? a litany. the aussies shaded you in terms of territory but you okes cashed in because the referee on the day pinged the offenders from the defending team. in the 8th and 11th minutes pocock leaked 6pts for fiddling with the ball off his feet and the referee didn’t look away.

  • 423.Lions_is_kak_kak_honde_honde_kak: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm

    Johan Meuwessen – made the correct call !! whether it was according to the rules or not! if you want to win a game with a forward pass – aka cheating then ya, go 4 it

  • 424.Connag: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm

    @cane(cane)-414: Yep its in your DNA.

  • 425.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-418: So you admit the Ab’s are better than the Boks. :lol: If so, why are you so upset, it’s not like the Boks were going to win anything at this world cup. :lol:

  • 426.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm

    @David(David)-410: And on paper that all sounds fine. But I am pretty sure that the majority of the local AB fans don’t have such noble motives. Of course most will claim otherwise, but I’m talking about that honest little place in your heart where even you can’t lie to yourself. In fact, I reckon that if 5% do it for purely ideological/political reasons, that’s a lot. No, it’s a well marketed brand that comes with guaranteed success and a handy justification. What a deal.

  • 427.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-422: Be honest, even you said the Boks are naive. The Boks lost because they have never been the most inteligent players in rugby. Top two inches did them in.

  • 428.cane: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm

    Post 416, Bryce.

    70:16 min – Danie Rossouw penalty for holding Samo’s leg O’Connor puts Australia back in the lead (missed by the Ref, a touch judge call ).

    End of.

    Dumb Fhukk Dannie cost you the game.

    A very small head, on a very large body.
    A disastrous combination.

  • 429.Sheriff: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:55 pm

    @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-399:

    Mate, African politics is a numbers game.

    South Africa with 75% African blacks lend itself to this type of abuse; they have the numbers so there is no need to deliver on the broader issues.

    What they have a profound understanding is to ‘buy votes’ ; it could be food parcel and a bottle of beer and loud music and his vote is yours. You also need a strong emotional message ‘ Apartheid or the British’ in Mugabe’s case.
    So with a recipe like that and cost effective mechanisms you could potentially literally budget for your continued rule (say put aside R5m every 5 years)

    Zuma to my mind is a willing puppet put there by forces around him. With him there they can plunder to their heart’s content. They know he is a master at stalling and everything that goes with it. He has got it down to a fine art.

    Madiba spent 27 years on Robben Island; at this rate it will take less than that to undo all that that generation fought for.

  • 430.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-415: Exactly.

  • 431.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:58 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-426: And an underlying deep rooted percentage of pure hatred in your heart for the green and gold that surfaces everytime you watch a test.

  • 432.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:59 pm

    You see… Sometimes nature is more powerful than nurture…

    No matter how much you may have been taught that it is not okay to be dishonest, your nature may dictate that it is okay to be one-eyed in a match involving the “Yarpies”.

    No matter how much you may be told that the Rugby World Cup is not your right and that you must not underestimate the French, your nature dictates that it is okay to relax and organise ticker tape parades…

    Nature vs Nurture… we are seeing it played out in this World Cup

  • 433.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:59 pm

    @Lions_is_kak_kak_honde_honde_kak(suffer_guy)-423: So he cheated the rules so that the Ab’s wouldn’t have a try awarded against SA. Nice one Johan. There is a word for that. Mmmmmmmhhhhh Cheat!

  • 434.cane: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 12:59 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-420:

    We have not won anything yet Connie.

    And stand a 50/50 chance of winning sweat “F” all.

    If it were a conspiracy, we would be playing Sweat Georgia in the final.

  • 435.ufo: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:00 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-417:

    hey rosso… i just look stupid… :wink:

    of course i understood the question…

    the choice of words in your post are your choice of words… not mine… if you’ll allow me to use my own words…

    i am a south african and support every south african team and sports person who represents south africa… period… no if buts or maybes…

    and yes even if players were being excluded because of colour i would still support the players and team that did represent south african

    we already have issues of players been kept out of the team… but i support the players that are selected…

    but please answer my question…

    if whites were excluded from the bok team and every player was black… would you support the boks or would you still support the ABs…?

  • 436.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:00 pm

    @ufo(ufo)-419: well i don’t know why you want specifically ME to ask that question, when whoever you feel should answer it is here for you to ask them.

    you on the other hand would cheer for a springbok team where whites are barred from ever wearing the jersey and SARU is required by law to apply for permits to allow a small number of white parents and spectators into the stadium only if SARU will provide separate entrances, toilets, canteens etc and even then, only souties will be allowed. :D

  • 437.Muttonbird: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:00 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-400: It’s quite common for some fans to tie their manhood to the fortunes of the national team. That’s why HG is in such a state right now.

    Has Kobus Kitty been in to congratulate the ABs on making the final yet?

  • 438.Connag: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:01 pm

    @cane(cane)-428: That wasn’t the turning point, the whole 80 minutes was the turning point. In 2007 it was a pom who missed a forward pass. In 2011 in was a Kiwi who cheated us out of defending the cup….see the difference? One of you!
    Its in your DNA you are a cunning, devious mob.
    Hollow, hollow, hollow!

  • 439.Muttonbird: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:03 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-420: NZ has managed to win on the field though – haven’t resorted to poisoning to ensure victory.

  • 440.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:03 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-438: You forget the 16 penalties France got in one half, and how NZ got none. Bryce didn’t give the Aussies penalties on top of penalties at all. It was the Boks who were wanting some, instead of just playing the game and creating their own points. Pathetic!

  • 441.Heavens Game: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-425: Like a Magpie thinking that all that glitters is best… Until that nest collapses under the weight of the big shiny ring placed among the twigs…

    Its nature vs nurture…

    And Magpies are the thieves of the animal kingdom… They steal the glittery things belonging to others.

  • 442.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-431: My bullshit detector is going berserk right now. “Pure hatred”? Yeah right, what did the Boks ever do to you? (How old are you, by the way?)

    You’re just justifying, and not very well.

  • 443.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:05 pm

    @Muttonbird(Muttonbird)-439: And you forgot about the gold watch Louis Luyt gave the ref Bevan who blew the final in 1995.

  • 444.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm

    @rossoneri(rossoneri)-421: no, none of that emotional hankering stuff. i choose to support SA teams, it is my right and it was denied to some but it never ceased to be mine. the problem was with them not me :D

  • 445.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-442:

    You need to read one of le pantalon noir’s posts.

    That should reset it.

  • 446.ufo: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm

    @Transformation(Transformation)-436:

    not hard to understand… or maybe it is… :roll:

    i want you to ask that question and insist on an answer simply because you asked the question of katman and insist on an answer…

    but maybe you only want to find hypocrisy in some people…?

  • 447.Connag: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:07 pm

    @Muttonbird(Muttonbird)-439: The Boks won on the field as well. Poisoning? Of course the AB’s never just lose.

  • 448.Muttonbird: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:08 pm

    @Connag(1112Connag)-447: Not often.

  • 449.rossoneri: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:08 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-442: Katman. Transformation and I were watching the Ireland v Aussies match, and I was cheering the Irish. When the result came I said that for the next few weeks I would cheer the Boks against Figi and Samoa and Namibia to end top of their group and wait for the quarters when the Aussies will F8ck them up! He looked at me strangely and said why I hated his team so much, and I said, I’ve tried to watch a bok game against say, the Aussies, and watch with an eye to cheer them on, but it didn’t work. It just felt unnatural! Like an out of body experience. I couldn’t do it.

  • 450.Helen: Reply to this comment
    20 Oct 2011, 13:08 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-442:

    Jerry, Jerry, Jerry

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