Currie Cup preview: Semi-finals
21 Oct 2011
GARETH DUNCAN analyses the key match-ups and picks the winners for Saturday’s Currie Cup semi-finals.
SHARKS vs CHEETAHS, DURBAN, 14:30
Why the Sharks will win: While most South Africans are still mourning the Springboks’ World Cup quarter-final exit, John Plumtree will be overjoyed with the reinforcements he’s gained over the past fortnight. And for this semi-final fixture, the Kiwi coach has brought out his big guns. He’s selected an all-Bok front row (including the best all-round hooker in the game Bismarck du Plessis), powerhouse Willem Alberts, a game breaker in JP Pietersen and a playmaker in Pat Lambie. They all fall into a side that boasts the second-best defensive record in the Currie Cup this season (they have only conceded three more points than WP) and will also strengthen their attacking capabilities. The Achilles heel in this Sharks team is their midfield – a combination that has failed to fire throughout this campaign. Plumtree has selected veterans Marius Joubert and Stefan Terblanche to take charge, but they’ll have to pick up their game to have the upper hand against the younger combination of Andries Strauss and Robert Ebersohn. Despite this, however, the Sharks should still have too much class to lose to the visiting Cheetahs. Barring the centres, this is arguably the strongest team in the Currie Cup.
Why the Cheetahs will win: There’s major hype around the return of 19-year-old flyhalf Johan Goosen to the Cheetahs’ run-on side. And rightfully so – he’s been a standout performer in his debut senior season on attack and with the boot. Although he has a lack of experience, he has the attributes to be a match-winner. The main concern is if he’ll be able to last 60 minutes as he’s been taken off around the half-time mark because of injury more than once in his last six games. Sias Ebersohn will be expected to play a ‘super sub’ role off the bench. While Goosen will be crucial to the Cheetahs’ chances, their loose trio also have a vital role to play. The Sharks showed what they’re capable of against the Lions last weekend once they gained the ascendancy up front. Boom Prinsloo, Ashley Johnson and Lappies Labuschagne will have the responsibility of halting the Sharks’ momentum at the breakdowns and tackle points. The battle between skipper Adriaan Strauss (who would be a regular Test hooker in any other country) and opposite number Bismarck du Plessis will also be immense. However, the Cheetahs’ defensive record at the death this season is a major concern. In hindsight, it’s a problem that’s cost them a home semi-final. It’s unlikley they’ll be able to fix that problem in a week – they are likely to fold in the second stanza.
Gareth’s call: Sharks by 12
Sharks – 15 Pat Lambie, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Stefan Terblanche, 12 Marius Joubert, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Conrad Hoffmann, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Keegan Daniel (c), 5 Ross Skeate, 4 Jean Deysel/Anton Bresler, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Eugene van Staden, 18 Marcell Coetzee, 19 Jacques Botes, 20 Ross Cronje, 21 Adi Jacobs, 22 Lwazi Mvovo
Cheetahs – 15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Ryno Benjamin, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Andries Strauss, 11 Cameron Jacobs, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Piet van Zyl, 8 Boom Prinsloo, 7 Ashley Johnson, 6 Lappies Labuschagne, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 4 Philip van der Walt, 3 WP Nel, 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Marcel van der Merwe.
Subs: 16 Hercu Liebenberg, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 Johan Wessels, 20 Tewis de Bruyn, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Nico Scheepers.
LIONS vs WP, JOHANNESBURG, 17:00
Why the Lions will win: Credit must be given to the Lions for their Currie Cup campaign. While the competition field was weakened by the absence of the Springboks, staying at the top of the log for the entire campaign is no easy feat. However, their recent form is a concern, having only won one match in their last four fixtures. That win did come against WP, but they’ll be up against a stronger team this week. It also includes a 53-9 drubbing at the hands of the Sharks last weekend. Allister Coetzee said midweek that nothing can be taken out of that match because John Mitchell made several changes for their trip to Durban. But what can be noted is once the Lions pack is dominated, they struggle. The Lions’ forwards have been central to their domestic success this season, and will need a strong showing if they want to host the final next weekend. You can expect a brave first-half performance up front, but they’ll need to maintain that momentum after the break. Mitchell has also decided to keep Elton Jantjies as his 10 ahead of Springbok Butch James. Jantjies hasn’t been as consistent this season as he was last year, especially with the boot. He’ll need a big performance, and will have the important job of spearheading his team that will face a strong WP backline.
Why WP will win: Province are keen on breaking their six-year domestic losing streak at Ellis Park, and they’ll have their strongest possible team to do so. With six Boks in their run-on side, they look the better team on paper. The main question will be: can their heavies play a commanding role? Against the Pumas last weekend, they faltered in the scrums and their defence has been uncharacteristically shaky in the latter stages of the league phase. They can’t afford that against the Jozi mongrels. If the forwards can win the ascendancy, then half the battle will be won. Coetzee will be hoping his halfback combination of UCT scrumhalf Nick Groom and flyhalf Demetri Catrakilis can step up to the occasion – this is no Varsity Cup playoff. They have looked impressive this year and will be relieved to be facing Jantjies and not the physical James. WP will hope Catrakilis can last the 80 minutes on this occasion, considering Gio Aplon and Conrad Jantjes are the back-up pivots. The midfield of Jean de Villiers and Jaque Fourie will be instrumental in the way the backline performs and Aplon will be a huge threat in the back three if the game loosens up.
Gareth’s call: WP by 7
Lions – 15 Jaco Taute, 14 Deon Van Rensburg, 13 Doppies la Grange, 12 Alwyn Hollenbach, 11 Michael Killian, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Michael Bondesio, 8 Joshua Strauss (c), 7 Michael Rhodes, 6 Derick Minnie, 5 Franco Van der Merwe, 4 Wikus van Heerden, 3 Pat Cilliers, 2 Bandise Maku, 1 CJ Van der Linde.
Subs: 16 Martin Bezuidenhout, 17 Jacobie Adriaanse, 18 Warren Whiteley, 19 Cobus Grobbelaar/Jaco Kriel, 20 Butch James, 21 Dylan des Fountain, 22 James Kamana.
WP – 15 Gio Aplon, 14 JJ Engelbrecht, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Demetri Catrakilis, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Nick Koster, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Schalk Burger (c), 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 JC Kritzinger.
Subs: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 Tertius Daniller, 19 Pieter Louw, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Juan de Jongh, 22 Conrad Jantjes.
137 Comments
21 Oct 2011, 07:45 am
Mmmm curried DRAGON!
21 Oct 2011, 07:45 am
Go WeePee…!!
21 Oct 2011, 07:57 am
Always liked that Gareth fella. Sensible head in his shoulders, not like the other lot.
21 Oct 2011, 08:02 am
well, lets be honest about the fact that just abut everybody sees it that way.
yes, its expected to be tight, how tight we cant be certain, but at the end its probably those two teams that will take it.
21 Oct 2011, 08:05 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-3: lol He is a good friend of mine. Top bloke
21 Oct 2011, 08:10 am
“The Sharks’ starting line-up have a combined age of 27 compared to the 23 years of the men from Bloemfontein. However, the Cheetahs coach told the Volksblad newspaper that experienced players could also panic at times.
“Experience is not everything. You also get experienced guys that panic in tough situations. Then you get young chaps like Johan Goosen (Cheetahs flyhalf) who has shown that he can play under pressure. He is 19 years old, but knows how to handle pressure.”
Drotske is hoping more than predicting…
“Experience will play a role, but the character we have in key positions on the field is enough for me.
21 Oct 2011, 08:15 am
Combined age?!?!
21 Oct 2011, 08:18 am
so sharks not giving the Aura a farewell bash?
Plod should have started……given the Cheetahs a fair chance then…..
Lions by 8
sharks by 12
21 Oct 2011, 08:20 am
@grant10(grant10)-8: Ja they could of done that. For old times sake.
21 Oct 2011, 08:23 am
This Gareth bloke is so naive.
“But what can be noted is once the Lions pack is dominated, they struggle. ”
Clearly this has no bearing on a game against WP.
21 Oct 2011, 08:23 am
Ah, another Lappies Labuschagne
. Transvaal had a bruiser who made Kobus Wiese look small!
This Goosen kid looks promising. Needs to go on the Bryan Habana “supplement diet”, put on 10kgs and he will be able to last 80mins.
The McCabe oke from Aus has guts but is just too skraal, has the same problem as Goosen
21 Oct 2011, 08:25 am
The great man is taking a well deserved break I guess.
The UK will be richer for his presence and invaluable input. Our loss in the end.
21 Oct 2011, 08:26 am
@Lions_Soutie(Lions_Soutie)-11: The boy is 19. He will gain muscle. Have you seen how big Taute is compared to 2009?
Cheetahs by 5
Lions by 6
21 Oct 2011, 08:34 am
@Lions_Soutie(Lions_Soutie)-11:
at the end of the day, as they say, meat is meat.
21 Oct 2011, 08:39 am
Have province had their latest version of Windows Turbo Reverse Installed?
21 Oct 2011, 08:57 am
@Lions_Soutie(Lions_Soutie)-11: no, no, no we don’t want goosen taking ANY “supplements”
Young star banned for failing dope test
November 3, 2010
Posted by Morné
One of South Africa’s most promising young rugby players has been banned for three months for the use of a banned stimulant.
Hendrik Cronje – Sport24
Grey College star flyhalf, Johan Goosen, was named Craven Week Player of the Year at the SA Rugby Awards banquet in Midrand on Monday night.
However, earlier on Monday, Goosen appeared before a SARU judiciary committee and was found guilty.
Sport24 believes Goosen, this year’s Free State Craven Week No 10, took the stimulant unknowingly. He was tested after a Cheetahs Under-19 match against the Griffons.
The stimulant was initially on the list of banned substances, before being removed, only to be added back at a later date.
Due to this, Goosen was only banned for three months – from November 1, 2010 to January 31, 2011.
Goosen was not in Midrand to receive his Player of the Year award.
21 Oct 2011, 08:59 am
Province to take this one with ease, Sharks to perform their normal choke along with another famous team of chokers this week end….
21 Oct 2011, 09:03 am
@grant10(grant10)-8: quite right, i was surprised when i read that Matfield said he would’ve played for the Bulle if they’d made the semi-finals but alas they’re vrot.
21 Oct 2011, 09:13 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-18:
CC semi final is to small for JS, he will wait for the final, the big stage !!
21 Oct 2011, 09:15 am
Hmmm… let me get this right.
Sharks score a 50 against a Lions team with 7 first-choice players rested, but that means the Sharks are incredible!
Cheetahs score a 50 against the Sharks with 6 first-choice players with the boks, but that doesn’t mean anything.
Oh yeah. Everything makes sense.
21 Oct 2011, 09:18 am
@Gunther(gunther)-15: You wearing your blue bulls helmet with the horns and beer holders this weekend?
Oh wait…..
21 Oct 2011, 09:22 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-19: yes, where his “aura” is put to proper use like when plum benched him for 78 min against the bulls @ loftus
21 Oct 2011, 09:26 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-21:
Indeed I will be subduing the peasants of Arnies in full regalia.
Whilst cheering for our cousins across the jukskei.
21 Oct 2011, 09:27 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-22:
Well summed up !!
21 Oct 2011, 09:31 am
If Province don’t man up in the scrums I think we will lose. Mitchell has the Lions playing a good brand of rugby and if their forwards dominate Elton will control the game and nulify our backs, given the home advantage the Lions should edge this one, obviously the heart says something completely different.
Think the Sharks might be to strong for the Cheetahs, however history could rear its head in this one !!!
21 Oct 2011, 09:40 am
@justrugby(justrugby)-25: wp are playing wiith no recognised ball pilferer/opensider. if the lions match you @ the collisions, derick minnie might have a “free lunch” at the breakdown.
21 Oct 2011, 09:45 am
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-13:
It’s only a matter of time before the other provinces whip out the chequebooks for Taute. I think he could be a good outside centre too.
21 Oct 2011, 09:49 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-16:
Ja, the problem is most supplements will contain some sort of stimulant. Will a stimulant improve decision making or calm the nerves when kicking at posts? It all remains quite debatable.
21 Oct 2011, 10:19 am
@Gunther(gunther)-23: Good for you boet. Subdue them with my blessing!
21 Oct 2011, 10:25 am
Hi All. I am getting quite irritated with the Butch James agency. The reference to the “physical” James….really? They talk him up like he is Jamie Roberts or Ma’a Nonu.
21 Oct 2011, 10:26 am
@Lions_Soutie(Lions_Soutie)-27: I think he will be in the bok picture in 2012.
21 Oct 2011, 10:59 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-3: Have to agree with you there. Sensible opinions with out getting personal!
21 Oct 2011, 11:07 am
I think WP will want to score first and quickly in order to counter the thin air. My prediction and yes it is only a prediction, if the Lions are trailing by 7 at the break, the Lions will take it. The Lions should target the srumhalf and flyhalf combo and shock De Villiers. If that happens WP are in trouble. Lets wait and see if my crystal ball is working!
21 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-20: Let me help you here, as you have obviously been eating too many mielies.
- When the Cheetahs beat the Sharks, the Sharks had SPRINGBOKS missing either due to injury or world cup duty (yes, I know the Cheetahs are also missing a few). Those include JP Pietersen, Odwa Ndungane, Pat Lambie, Bismark Du Plessis, Jannie Du Plessis, Beast Mtwarira, Ryan Kankowski, Alistair Hargreaves, Willem Alberts.
Thats an entire Springbok front row. Plus, Marius Jonker was making right for what he did to the Cheetahs in the Super 15. Plain as daylight. South Africa’s Bryce Lawrence – and he has got the match again this weekend if I am not mistaken.
- When the Sharks beat the Lions, the Lions rested a few CURRIE CUP STARLETS, but actually played them off the bench later on in the game including their one and only Bok, Butch James. Ok – and now they have CJ Vd. Linde as well.
If you cant see the difference, you need to stop eating your mom’s koeksusters, because the hyperglycaemia is causing you to suffer from retinopathy and if its not that, stop eating vetkoeke because maybe your eyelids are getting too fat and obscuring your eyesight.
21 Oct 2011, 11:28 am
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-33:
WP by 7 to 10.
Sharks by 10 – 14.
See you in Durban for the final WP. Don’t have too many nightmares of 2010 !
21 Oct 2011, 11:32 am
Gonna be some good games this weekend no matter what the outcomes.
21 Oct 2011, 11:35 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-35: Lions by 10 and Sharks by 12. Lions Sharks final. Lions to win it by 3 and take the Currie Cup!
21 Oct 2011, 11:36 am
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-37: Not going to happen. Vodacom Cup ended last weekend. Goodbye Lions.
21 Oct 2011, 11:41 am
Where can I get a message to Marius Jonker ? I am not asking for anything, except a fair and accurate refereeing performance this weekend, or Jonkertjie – you will earn yourself your very own facebook anti-fan site. Myself and the rest of the huge Sharks supporter fan base will personally make sure of that.
I think we all a bit gatvol of referees inconsistent performances. So, make sure you get it right this weekend. Just be fair, if the Cheetahs deserve to win then so be it, but just let it be on the back of a good day for you with the whistle.
Or else I will organise a petition much bigger than the Bryce Lawrence one.
21 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-34: Hmmm. Springboks. Remind me… is it the same Springboks who dropped out ungracefully from the World Cup? Same boks that almost lost to WALES and SAMOA?!?
Yeah… I’m shivering!
21 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-39: 80% of the Sharks fan base are over 65 and are not on Facebook and for those that are on Facebook shouldn’t be. FAIL.
21 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-39: Don’t worry. Common knowledge that the Sharks have all the SA refs in their pocket.
21 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-38: Yeah, CC stopped last week. Future-of-SA-Rugby vs the Old-Age-Homes this week.
21 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-40: You asked, and I gave you an answer. If you don’t think the presence of players like Bismark Du Plessis, Willem Alberts and Pat Lambie make a difference, then you are thicker than I thought – and that would be quite difficult.
21 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-41: The Sharks have 235 570 fans on facebook. As usual, a thick Lion that didn’t think before he spoke.
21 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-43: Wakakakaka…nice try chop. Quite frankly, I could care less how old the Sharks are in each individual year as compared to whatever team. As long as they keep winning Currie Cups.
Plus, you know we will just buy whatever players we like from the Cheetahs. I hear Goosen is already on the shopping list.
21 Oct 2011, 11:52 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-42: Go snack down on another vetkoek ou perd.
21 Oct 2011, 11:52 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-44: Really. What answer? A number of the Lions player that I referred to could easily have been in the bok squad… and probably should have been. We may have seen the boks playing this weekend.
21 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-46: Really? Since Goosen is contracted for 2 more years with the Cheetahs, will we once again see the Sharks trying their underhanded tactics? Didn’t work out too well last time, did it?
21 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-48: Probably, should have, could have, but weren’t…..
I cant help you any more – send Bryce Lawrence an e-mail and ask him for answers. I think you will be conversing on the same intellect plateau.
21 Oct 2011, 11:56 am
@Dusky(Dusky)-45: Ah! Typical sharks supporters to find an out-of-date application when everybody else got bored with it years ago.
21 Oct 2011, 11:57 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-49: I don’t know the specifics. It’s not ‘underhanded’, just ‘clever’. If we fooled the boneheads with Willem Alberts and Louis Ludick – we can do it again.
In any case, look at what it did for Gerhard Mostert’s career ? If he had stayed in the Lions, Stade Francais would never even have heard of him.
21 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
@Bouts(Bouts)-51: Ah – Typical Cheetahs supporter that can’t follow the context of an argument.
Your dom doos buddy said that the Sharks wouldn’t have enough fans on facebook. I just answered him. Try keep with….
21 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
Can’t wait to see this big mouthed Sharky in the form of Dusky, watching the final and wondering…how did this happen?? Donnerse grootbek!! Sulke snotneusies log gewoonlik nie in op ‘n Maandag nie. So brace yourself, we won’t hear from this clown soon!
21 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-53: Haha… you are a special one.
21 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-54: Like Lions supporters that we didn’t hear much from after the 2nd or 3rd game of the Super 15 ?
21 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-54: Same **** different tourney for old Dusky. Did you see him at the end of the S15 this year with his groot bek? Me neither….
21 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-55: No – I am just normal. Horribly under-intelligent people are actually in the minority in this world.
21 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
Ye sure, I am talking about you…going off about your wonder team who still need to win their game!
21 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-57: Damn, at least I was still around when the playoffs came around. Not wondering how, after beating my chest like the lead drummer in a marching band, my team ended up second last on the log.
21 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-59: Looks to me like you are talking to yourself. But that is to be expected.
21 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-57: Dis daai nikswerd Sharkies wat die Bulondersteuners kritiseer en se hulle is vlak. Die ou is ‘n joke!
21 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm
@Bouts(Bouts)-51: And by the way, facebook hasn’t even been discovered in the Free State yet – so, no wonder you don’t know much about it.
21 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-62: Ag jirretog, moet tog nie beginne tjank nie ****….
21 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-61: Aren’t you from Australia? Seems like it, arrogant and actually don’t watch rugby, but loves Aussie rules! Jy is ‘n serious plonker boet!
21 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-65: Oh, I watch rugby, but I only started watching the Currie Cup last weekend, because I don’t enjoy watching Vodacom Cup or Premier Division as it was before that. Of course, I see that in that Vodacom Cup competition, it seems the Lions managed to win enough games to make the top of the log by 2 points. Well done.
But now that’s over see.
21 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-65: Yes, I am an Aussie that can speak Afrikaans….just like the Sharks don’t have any supporters on facebook.
21 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-66: Gaan kry ‘n boekie seun en gaan tos, want smaak my jy is gefrustreerd. Ek het nou klaar met die nikswerd gepraat en nou praat ons weer rugby. Bye bye dingbat!!
21 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
Hahaha , love these lions vs sharkies brawls. Meanwhile, Province is silently lurking in Gauteng…
21 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-62: Relax LL. Die manne is oraait hier selfs ou Dusky hier (hier is ‘n doose). Hulle staan maar net op vir hulle span soos ons vir die Leeus. Net jammer van hulle begin persoonlik as dit bietjie warm word. Kak byt is mos nie meer kak byt van ouds nie. Party mense skiet maar dik nek.
21 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-68: Ok dom doos. Nou hou dan op praat met my.
21 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-70: Ag, now you ruin it. Old Loyal Lion was sitting behind his computer, veins popping out his neck, furiously thinking (or trying to at least) of clever things to say….I was enjoying it…
21 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-69: I don’t know how I ended up in this conversation, because I have no doubt whatsoever that the Lions little Currie Cup dream will end this weekend.
Every time the Springboks are out during a world cup year, the Lions do well in the Currie Cup. So – they can look forward again to another 4 years time. But – now we are klaar gespeel. Time for real rugby, and a strength vs. strength final.
Sharks vs. WP
21 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-70: Nee wat die grapjas werk my glad nie op nie. Hy praat ‘n klomp strond, het beperkte kennis en is totaal onvolwasse…Sy opinies is soos malema s’n…net ‘n klomp kak!
21 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
You see now HHS….
21 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-70: halo hhs,ek sien die manne raak warm oor ons in die finaal gaan speel of hoe,jy was lanklaas op wtr of is dit ek?
21 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-76: I am not getting ‘warm’ about the Lions chances of making the final. Quite frankly, I think the Sharks have a better chance of winning the Currie Cup against the Lions at Ellis Park than they do against WP, even in Durban.
So, in all honesty – I would prefer the Lions win. It just isn’t going to happen.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
21 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm
ek gee nie eintlik om wat se kak die dusky ou of vrou praat nie ,dit is die eerste keer in n dekade dat die lions in n finaal is en ek vir een is moerse bly ,al verloor ons maak nie saak nie ons was daar en die ander spanne is nou kak bang want die lions is weer na jare op dreuf en nou wil hulle weer al ons ouens koop om op hulle bench te sit ,nou dis n klomp bang gatte as jy my vra
21 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-76: Ja nee. Ag man dis mos lekker hierdie “banter”. Ek is nog daar by WTR… gister daai KingPaul bietjie kak gebyt oor sy WP trui. Ek is elke dag daar.
21 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-77: wat kan ek se,jy weet mos beter
21 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-79: ja ek het gesien jy se die man se trui kak,mooi wat soek hy anyway op die lions site met sy kak wp trui,hy soek mos om gemoer te raak,ek het jou al n paar keer hier gesien ,maar die site is darem baie meer rassisties en onbeskof as ons sin ne,maar ek laaik dit eintlik beter,want almal se hier presies hoe hulle voel
21 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-78: Hulle gaan nou net weer daai 4 jaar plan ding op bring. Wat seker maar waar is. Maar hulle moet maar hulle ogies oop hou vir ons. Nico doen ook goeie goed by die jonges. Aan die begin van die seisoen het ons net pak gekry en nou is altwee groepe in die semi’s.
21 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-78: Umm – die Lions is nog nie in die finaal nie, en gaan ook nie wees nie. En hulle was laas in ‘n finaal in 2007 – so, nie ‘n dekade nie. Kry jou feite reg eier poep.
En ek is glad nie bang vir die Leeus nie. Ek is meer bang vir die Cheetahs, en ask WP die finaal haal sal ek ook nie baie gemaklik wees nie. Leeus worry my niks. Hulle het naal skraap gewen teen die Sharks B span op Ellis Park, and hulle gatte behoorlik gesien in Durban laas naweek.
21 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-77: is n dusky nie n hond nie?o sorry dis husky ,sorry dusky
21 Oct 2011, 12:31 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-81: As julle bietjie minder dink aan moer, en bietjie meer boeke lees, sal julle bietjie slimmer gewees het, en ook geweet het die Lions het 4 jaar laas die final gemaak, en dat hulle nog nie in hierdie jaar se final is nie.
21 Oct 2011, 12:32 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-84: Nee eier poep, Dusky is ‘n tipe Haai. Nie te moelik om dit te redeneer nie of hoe ?
21 Oct 2011, 12:33 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-83: want hulle wou julle net so bietjie fals hoop gee dis al,en ek laaik daai b span van julle,nog baie bokke daar of hoe
21 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-85: ek dink jy het dit al gese vroer en ek het jou gehoor ,jy hoef nie alles te herhaal nie ,ek **** die eerste keer,eier poep??? hoe oud is jy ???
21 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-86: lees asb weer wat ek gese het asb
21 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-87: Ja, die Sharks se B span het Bokke in. Die wat of een toets gespeel het, of omtrent 10 jare laas ‘n Springbok trui gesien het.
Leeus was goed genoeg om die Sharks B span to klop op Ellis Park. Ek sal julle dit gee.
21 Oct 2011, 12:36 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-82: jy nou gaan rus of begin jy al voorberei vir die game???? ek al klaar myfinal kaartjies gekoop vir as ons teen die vrystaat gaan speel
21 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-90: wen is wen vriend ,vra maardie bokke!!!
21 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-89: Ek kan jou goed net een keer lees eier poep. Elke keer wat ek jou nonsens lees, word ek bietjie dommer. As ek dit so mijoen keer lees sal ek amper so dom wees soos jy.
21 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-93: pragtig man jy is seker die slim een in die familie of hoe?
21 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-92: That’s true, and winning that game against the Sharks B side is essentially what gave the Lions top of the log.
21 Oct 2011, 12:40 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-94: weet nie hoeveel keer jy dit gaan lees nie ?
21 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-95: presies jm weet wat hy doen of nog gaan doen
21 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-94: Nee soos ek voorheen gese het, ek is maar gemiddelde intelligensie. Dit is maar net teen julle Leeu ondersteuners wat ek so slim lyk.
21 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-91: Ek het ook al my final tickets
Nee… ek sal begin voorberei so 13:30 daar buite die Coke Blik. Ek en ‘n paar vriende (WP manne ook) gaan bietjie daar kuier.
Geniet die games mense. Behoort 2 grootes te wees.
Ek is oor en uit.
21 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm
as julle regtig wil wen sal julle earl rose moet koop,want hy is sa se se beste en julle sal almal help om hom te kry ,dan hoef ons nie te worry dat hy sal terug kom asb help ons
21 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-99: Did you buy your finals tickets in the same dream world where you believe the Lions deserve to be top of the log and the Bulls deserve not to have made a semi-final ? Lala land ? You and old Einstein Duke both ?
21 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-99: hoe dan anders, cheers hhs.
21 Oct 2011, 12:44 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-101: nou dink jy die bulle moes daar gewees het,ja miskien in die sharks se plek
21 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-101: einstein???? ek dog jy is dom ?
21 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm
Vodacom Cup Lions 9 – WP 25
21 Oct 2011, 12:50 pm
I would not mind watching this possible prospect of Bismark, Alberts, Kankowski, Daniels and Deysel all on the field at the same time… Curius to see this new development of Deysel at lock. Am pretty sure he is still a flank though but will wait to see this..
How has he played at lock so far?
21 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm
worsee thenn Boks WC exit???
WP winning currie cupp
Go OVS!!!!
21 Oct 2011, 12:51 pm
ongeag van wat gebeer ek dink die naweek se rugby oorskadu die wb finaal imo,jammer maar die wb is nou moerse afgewater.
21 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm
@Lions_is_kak_kak_honde_honde_kak(suffer_guy)-105: dis nie mooi nie ons het die jaar nie een keer gese die sharks b of wp b nie,
21 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm
@Guns(Guns)-106: hulle wil nou al hulle sterre in een span in druk ,ek dink hulle mors hom op slot
21 Oct 2011, 12:59 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-103: Jy is reg, die Bulle moes daar gewees het. The only team that benefited from the lack of Boks in the Bulls, Sharks and WP sides this Currie Cup was the Lions. The Bulls should have been there in the Lions place.
21 Oct 2011, 13:00 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-109: You really are a rocket scientist aren’t you ?
21 Oct 2011, 13:03 pm
@Guns(Guns)-106: Deysel hasn’t blown the world away with his performances at lock, but has also not really disappointed. He seems to be getting better. I am pleased that he is getting some time in this position – this could be valuable to the Sharks moving on from here. And just BTW – its not only the Sharks that have had to resort to playing a flank at lock this Currie Cup.
21 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm
@Duke01(Duke01)-108: Ja, en vir julle gaan die Currie Beker finaal ook moerse afgewater wees.
21 Oct 2011, 14:22 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-113: Now she wants to talk rugby???
21 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@Dusky – bru ignore these no name brand lions. Hulle is aan die slaap gebore en vaak grootgemaak. WP will put the pathetic lions to the sword. I’m really looking forward to the WP Sharks Final.
21 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-116: i see you’ve been enjoying this guppy and surrendermonkey show
21 Oct 2011, 14:49 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-34:
21 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm
@Transie, yip its quite entertaining. All these big talking lions appearing out nowhere, and sharkie baiting them. The lions hate the boks being back…
21 Oct 2011, 14:56 pm
Ellispark is kak. The lions are k@kker, the lion mascot has resigned as he decided to join a real circus. Useless pathetic S15 wooden spoon champions!
21 Oct 2011, 15:01 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-120: hahahahaha yoh
you also decided to fire @ the leeus-ers?
21 Oct 2011, 15:27 pm
Wp wil lose this one….and for one reason…AC!!!!
He is already getting his checklist out and checking the boxes as usual…..
Bok job lined up…..check
Excuses for four more years…….check
Skin colour….check
JW backing…..check
The one he is forgetting for this weekend is playing a team coached by a NZ coach…..CHECK!!!! AC wake up…….I am already reading between the line of your excuses of …..they are a good team, they have played well….we are preparing for the S15, it is goint to be tough……the one handling the pressure better will win……..FFS!!! AC Wake up!
Ask the players….do you want this cup or not…..if you do….go wash out the other team and make sure it is your….even if the sharks get Craig I love the Sharks Joubert agian! You play him and the lions and the sharks of the park……get some back bone AC….you are gutless!
21 Oct 2011, 15:30 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-120:
no man, if there’s a really kak mascot its that psychopathic looking shark-man at the tank.
21 Oct 2011, 16:07 pm
Lions vs. WP
Altitude gives the Lions an advantage, Kolisi and Maku cancelled each one out, Peiper is an honest Ref and so not expected to favour any side
Lions by 7 to 10
Cheetahs vs Sharks
Johnson’s as bad as the Beast among the forwards and the pair of wings both side cancel each one out, which makes the Sharks the favourite
The Honest Marius Jonker will see to it anyway
Sharks by 14 to 17
21 Oct 2011, 17:33 pm
Cheetahs vs Lion in the final
21 Oct 2011, 18:37 pm
Where do all these new lion fans suddenly come from? They were awol in the S15 – except for RL, Katman and Hhs. Must be ex-bulls crossing over the jukskei?
21 Oct 2011, 19:14 pm
Lions vs Sharks.
21 Oct 2011, 20:19 pm
I don’t think there is much anyone can do for the Lions anymore. Clearly Mitchell has done all that he can as a coach and the rest that has been left to the players has not materialised when the going gets tough.
At some point someone has to acknowlege that the union is in freefall and when the money runs out Lions rugby will be no-more.
21 Oct 2011, 22:00 pm
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-128: Too bad for you there is a lot more money. Keep your eyes open sparky. Fark me these Sharks supporters are clever today.
22 Oct 2011, 01:20 am
in what universe will the worst placed SA Super Rugby team of the past 2 seasons possibly beat the highest placed SA Super Rugby team of 2011 oh yes an Super Rugby,Currie Cup Finalist of last year……..shame on you Wooden Spoon collectors
22 Oct 2011, 04:18 am
The same universe where teams like the Cheetahs and Force lose to all and sundry but beat the Crusaders. It is called sport and there are no foregone conclusions.
22 Oct 2011, 04:22 am
The Lions clearly deserve to be top of the log because they have the
most points. The Bulls don’t deserve to be there because they did not collect enough points. That is where it begins and ends. Anyone who cannot understand that simple principle should go back to colouring in. And avoid the toxic crayons in case you get an urge to eat them.
22 Oct 2011, 07:31 am
Let’s be realistic now…..and stop wanking off in your Lions jersey you dumbass how many times a season does that happen?the Currie Cup had its surprises its the business end of the competitio
22 Oct 2011, 08:59 am
@AssassinWP(Ashraf Ismail)-133: Ok… let’s be realistic. Go and have a look at history and look when was the last time the Lions had some silverware and your beloved WP. So what makes your team so great? It’s all about silverware, no one remembers the losers of a final.
22 Oct 2011, 09:46 am
1999 Lions,2000+2001 WP the fact that we have the most Currie cup titles will for now make us the Greatest domestic team Buddy!!!Also the only way to win Silverware is to make Semi-finals and Finals consistently Guppy I mean Tuna an over the past 2 seasons we heading in the right direction,the Lions top the log because of +30 Boks missing from the CC an all of a sudden they the Cat’s Whiskers(haaa haa no pun intended)
22 Oct 2011, 09:47 am
1999 Lions,2000,2001 WP the fact that we have the most Currie cup titles will for now make us the Greatest domestic team Buddy!!!Also the only way to win Silverware is to make Semi-finals and Finals consistently Guppy I mean Tuna an over the past 2 seasons we heading in the right direction,the Lions top the log because of +30 Boks missing from the CC an all of a sudden they the Cat’s Whiskers(haaa haa no pun intended)
22 Oct 2011, 21:06 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-126: Hey Slappes nou wat se jy nou?
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