Comments on: Slick Lions maul Province

By: Woogs(Woogs)

Woogs(Woogs) — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:13:48 +0000

Those who criticize John Mitchell for being draconian are not seeing the wood from the trees. Loffie was a good coach and a man the players and supporters liked, but he just didn’t have the hard-arsed attitude required to deal with the rubbish happening in the GLRU boardroom. Mitchell doesn’t take nonsense and he’s smacked the management into shape as well, because creating a winning culture starts at the top, not on the pitch.

Mitchell knows overnight success is not the answer. It’s a long term goal of his and he’s not getting cocky like some other coaches. Good on him and Carlos. These are the first few pushes on the flywheel to success. Once the momentum is built we’ll be competitive for the few years.

See you all at The Park on Saturday!

By: Dusky(Dusky)

Dusky(Dusky) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:53:13 +0000

Congrats Lions. I have to eat some of my words. I really expected WP to win.

There are a some parallels between this years tournament and last years, but not in the Sharks favor.

Last year with top spot secured, the Sharks B side got mauled by the same team they thrashed in the final. Same as the 53-9 mauling by the Sharks over the Lions ? Ominous similarities….

Sharks will have to wake up and watch out if they are to win this final. I do expect to see an improved Sharks performance this weekend though.

Lets hope for a good game, and to be honest with everything the Lions have endured recently, there will be a part of me that wouldn’t mind seeing them win the Currie Cup.

But, if I have to call it – Sharks by 7 to 10.

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:09:36 +0000

@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-502: Fair enough but as I said earlier I saw "improvement" for certain players under Loffie around 2006-etc namely: Mujati,Heinke,Alberts,Ludik,Clever etc Yet the Lions still remained on the skids...Just feels a bit like De Ja Vu to be honest.And we heard the same things back then-if Loffie/Lions had these players,those players-Lions not broke-Lions sponsor from Cola Cola will transform fortunes blah blah etc.(Loffie has also done a sterling job at Boland*back in premier division,Deysel,Alberts,Mujati,Heinke etc all went on to become Boks,revatilised Big Joe's career ) etc All seems TOO familiar. Same administration etc But hey your enthusiasm is good.Hopefully Lions will be able to deliver return on investment for you as fan as well as "new investor" on board

By: Gunther(gunther)

Gunther(gunther) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:08:09 +0000

@>^..^< katman(katman)-499: Donovan? The Alamo?

By: >^..^< katman(katman)

>^..^< katman(katman) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:01:50 +0000

@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-502: Don’t ever fck with my rhyme.

By: HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)

HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:56:48 +0000

@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-494: We at home this time and now the union benefit from it. Compared to last year where we didn’t even make the semi’s I would think that this is kinda of an improvement. Look I’m not going to change your thinking about Mitchell but he is some advice. Look at some players look how they improved under this guy… not just the Lions but the Force too. Now give this guy some stars to work with like De Jongh, Aplon, Sadie, Lambie, Goosen, Hougaard etc etc and the possibilities will be endless. If you see improvement in players you know something is good is happening.

@>^..^< katman(katman)-499: Lions are buying…

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:55:06 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-495:

Hahaha yeah yeah

Its funny when you REPEAT the SAME thing ALL the the TIME thinking its actually going to become reality.

Mitchell will lose AGAIN on Saturday,still have won little.Just like Loffie in 2007…Same thing different wrapping… The parrallels between both sides is astounding..Same new dawn appraisals etc

Continue with the stuck record.

And not backing Mitchell doesnt mean one is behind AC or Rassie or whoever. The 2 arent mutually exclusive.

Just means NO to Draconian Mitch. Simple

By: Gunther(gunther)

Gunther(gunther) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:52:12 +0000

Mitchell is a nutter who is big on discipline.

But maybe that’s what we need.

As saffers we seem to respond to the strict approach.

Where’s my cane?

By: >^..^< katman(katman)

>^..^< katman(katman) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:50:42 +0000

While Province and Bulls are out swoppin’ and buyin’
Our boys are still playin’ – not sittin’ and cryin’
We cruised past the semis without even tryin’
It’s still not too late to become a proud Lion

By: Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)

Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:47:16 +0000

@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-494: In 2007 we did not play a full strength WP side in a semi. This time we did and won comfortably. It is only my opinion and obviously like backing my side. I know though that The Sharks is very impressive and will take a total effort to lift the Cup. The Sharks were idling on Saturday against the Cheetahs...it is going to be brutal!

By: stormersboy(stormersboy)

stormersboy(stormersboy) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:45:13 +0000

In 57 games at the helm of the Force, Mitchell has guided the Perth-based franchise to 20 wins, four draws and 33 losses

I wonder what his win-loss ratio is at the Lions?

Better after this year’s CC I imagine….

If I were given the option of picking a foreign based coach, and I know that won’t happen, i wonder if I’d pick Mitchell?

If we go for a foreign coach then we could stretch ourselves outside of SA surely?

Any ideas/suggestions?

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:45:03 +0000

Mitchell has more skill in his left nut than these rasssie /ac wallys have in there entire beings!

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:43:06 +0000

mitchell has had to endure tumultuous times already at the lions with investors, etc…..mugging as well….through it all he has stood tall and delivered where it counts….on the field.

It is insular laager type mentality that will preclude us from doing what is right….

AC / Rassie will be a disaster…t.hey will say all the right things….do great tv….and wont deliver…

watch

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:40:42 +0000

@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-489: You were in the SAME position in 2007 remember??? Still lost to FS Careful, careful

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:39:23 +0000

@Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)-489: you guys stand up in tight 5 it is a lions win and i will be as thrilled as you will be !

By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami)

mshiniwami(mshiniwami) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:39:01 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-483:

Hahaha yeah right nice try diverting away from all his sh*t. With that generation of players in 02/03 for NZ and seeing how poor Aus/SA were,he would have had to be Carel du Plessis to not get at LEAST a 70% win ratio. But anyway he failed when it counted most….. Draconian Mitch…Each to our OWN indeed…

@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-482:

Well good for your Lions, good for your “new investor”…

The Lions also got to a CC Final in 2006 or 2007 if Im mistaken….So havent turned the corner just yet….That generation was also being hailed as “new dawn” under Loffie…

See any paralells: 2007/2011

Mujati-Cilliers
Wepener-Maku
Heinke-CJ
Ludik-Taute
Cronje-Strauss
Pretorius-Jantjes
Doppies-Doppies

etc

You might have had even more quality back then…..Jaque Fourie,Alberts,Deysel etc

Good luck.Hope the largely unchanged administration/presidents council,de Klerk etc man up this time…For your sake

By: stormersboy(stormersboy)

stormersboy(stormersboy) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:38:54 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-487: OK, fair comments. I'm not an AC fan, wasn't a PDV fan, and yes, not sure what the alternatives realistically are. We all know AC is the most obvious guy for the job, even though I dissagree with the appointment.

By: grant10(grant10)

grant10(grant10) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:38:07 +0000

@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-488: sadly my man.....you are right....on all counts

By: Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion)

Loyal Lion(Loyal Lion) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:36:03 +0000

I love it when some supporters don’t give us a chance come this weekend. It will be very tough, the Sharks is a well balanced side, but the Lions are so hungry for success that imo, Lions by 9. CC champs 2011 and will end 6th in next year’s S15..

By: HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)

HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop) — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:30:53 +0000

@grant10(grant10)-485: Here is the problem, we have sofie Hoskins there at the top. A softie and friends will not appoint a hard a$$. They want a puppet and I think that's why JM, HM and Mallet already said no. Rassie is a journey man.... chasing the $$