All Blacks crowned kings of the world
23 Oct 2011
JON CARDINELLI, reporting from Eden Park, watched the All Blacks beat France 8-7 to secure their second World Cup title.
Four million New Zealanders have had to endure 24 long years in between World Cup titles. On Sunday 23 October, they had to endure a further 80 agonising minutes as their beloved All Blacks edged slowly and, at times tentatively, towards the elusive gold.
The energy of a nation was channeled in the New Zealand national anthem, and the All Blacks played their part with a spirited rendition of Kapa o Pango. France responded through Thierry Dusautoir’s passionate gesture during the Tricolores’ call-to-arms, and through the team’s decision to advance towards the hosts while they laid down the traditional challenge.
The message was clear: France would not be intimidated by the All Blacks, their media or the New Zealand people’s pre-match assertion that they had no place in this final. Their march on the All Blacks would signify a collective up-yours to all the non-believers, and their efforts in this match would underscore their passion and belief that they could indeed upset the world’s top-ranked team.
It was this fiery attitude and physicality that had the All Blacks rattled at stages. Tony Woodcock scored a simple try for the hosts when a smart lineout move opened up the French defence, but Piri Weepu failed to make the conversion. In fact, Weepu would miss all three of his attempts at goal and the All Blacks would miss out on eight points as a result. It was this lack of composure that so nearly cost the hosts the game.
The All Blacks were resolute on defence, but then so were the French. They matched the hosts at the collisions which limited the All Blacks’ attacking platform. Morgan Parra stopped Ma’a Nonu from breaching the gain line early in the first half, and paid the price for his bravery. He was able to return to the field for a brief spell but was later pulled when he failed to recover from what was a big knock.
The All Blacks would lose their own flyhalf before the first period was through. Aaron Cruden was caught between two French defenders in the 34th minute, and proceeded to hyper-extend his knee. Suddenly the All Blacks were without Cruden, their third-choice pivot, and looking to Stephen Donald, a player who wasn’t even in the country until a couple of weeks previously. If the All Blacks were going to pull this one off, the forgotten man of New Zealand rugby would have to steer them home.
Donald relieved Weepu of the goal-kicking duties and took his first opportunity early in the second half. But the 8-0 deficit did little to dampen the spirits of the French, who continued to clatter into the collisions and breakdowns with masochistic intensity.
They also persisted with their ball-in-hand tactics, and their searing counter-attacks stretched the All Blacks on numerous occasions. It was one such counter-punch that would provide the spark for a massive moment, which Dusautoir took expertly to help close the gap to 8-7.
It was during this time that the All Blacks must have been thinking about the failures of the World Cup teams of yesteryear. Weepu had shown a lack of composure in the first half through his inability to convert three very kickable opportunities, and as the French swelled with confidence, the All Blacks grew frantic.
It was a situation tailor-made for the French, and undoubtedly a worse-case scenario for the hosts.
But as plucky as the French were, they were just as erratic as in previous matches at this tournament. Credit should go to the All Blacks defence, but had France shown more composure and patience with ball-in-hand, they may have taken the lead and inspired some real panic in the New Zealand ranks. Had they converted their own goal-kicking chances, they would have assumed control as the clock wound down.
Dimitri Yachvili missed a penalty attempt early in the second stanza, and Trinh-Duc pushed a long attempt wide in the 65th minute. The replacement flyhalf also made a telling mistake when he overcooked a garryowen late in the game. It marked the end of long spell where France had pinned the hosts deep in their own territory.
It was during the remaining minutes that the All Blacks, spurred on by the thousands of desperate but patriotic Kiwis in the crowd, showed their composure. Through the determined efforts of their forwards and the collective discipline on defence, they were able to douse the French flame.
France swept from side to side for several minutes in hope of milking the penalty that would win them the game, but the All Blacks stood firm. They won the turnover, and attempted to play for time, and when referee Craig Joubert handed them a penalty, it signified the beginning of the end.
The All Blacks won the ensuing lineout and another penalty after mauling the French back, and at this point, Eden Park erupted in celebration. It will not be remembered as the most convincing performance, but it will be remembered as the day the All Blacks ended a 24-year drought and assumed the mantle of undisputed champions of the world.
1,158 Comments
23 Oct 2011, 08:16 am
Common all you Saffa’s, there is still plenty of time before kick off to get the last of your choker digs in.
23 Oct 2011, 08:18 am
Black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 08:26 am
@Brads(Brads)-1:
You are over complicating it…. its much more simple
ALLEZ FRANCAIS!!!!!!!!!!!
VAMOS FRANCIA!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO FRANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geddit?????
23 Oct 2011, 08:31 am
@Brads(Brads)-1:
And you’ve still got 3.5 hours to wonder whether you will.
23 Oct 2011, 08:32 am
@David(David)-4:
Who you picking / supporting?
23 Oct 2011, 08:38 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-5:
ABs, but that’s an intellectual, not an emotional choice. We’re so involved with you guys in the 3N and S15, it would almost be unpatriotic not too. Besides, us 3rd world countries need to stick together.
23 Oct 2011, 08:42 am
Couldn’t sleep last night, I’m first patron at the pub, it’s the quiet before the storm, I’m quietly nervous but I know the Blackness will emerge supreme!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 08:43 am
@Brads(Brads)-1:
Just remember who the reigning world champions still are.
Not New Zealand.
Not France.
Not just yet.
23 Oct 2011, 08:43 am
@David(David)-6:
Good man, farking nervous though been a long long time since we’ve been in a position to win the thing
23 Oct 2011, 08:44 am
Having said that, I’d like to see the All Blacks do it. And just keep the bloody thing in the Southern Hemisphere.
23 Oct 2011, 08:45 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-5:
Also, we english speakers need to occassionally remind the French why they’d be speaking German if it wasn’t for us.
23 Oct 2011, 08:45 am
To all the All Black supporters, may your team show why they deserve to win this tournament and be at their best. To the french supporters: mebbe, I dunno.
23 Oct 2011, 08:47 am
@David(David)-11:
Ha true, the Frogs will be fired up tonight though no walkover.
23 Oct 2011, 08:47 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-10:
and face 4 years of torment and anguish on this site from the likes of China, Pops, BP, Tackles and the rest of that motley crew???
No thanks….. go blue!
23 Oct 2011, 08:48 am
@Bod(bod)-14:
lol
23 Oct 2011, 08:50 am
@Bod(bod)-14:
Now that I think of it, its go blue three times today….
Frogs, City and Chelsea….
23 Oct 2011, 08:53 am
The All Blacks
A team whose time has come.
23 Oct 2011, 08:54 am
Come on AB’s!!! I cried in 2007 was in stunned silence, 2003 was awful Australia stole that game, 1999 was no picnic bloody Frenchmen, 1995 there was Mandela and suzie, 1991 damn convicts, 1987 glory!
It’s been a long long time, we’ve waited and we must be rewarded, I don’t have religion because I’ve got the All Blacks!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 08:54 am
@Bod(bod)-14:
If they do it, it’ll only be on loan to them for 4 years.
And I don’t think I could handle any more nervous breakdowns from all these kiwis for the next 4 years if they didn’t do it.
23 Oct 2011, 08:54 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-8: Sorry, maybe nobody told you but the Boks lost their defense of the WC by playing and losing to Oz. They are no longer WC’s I’m afraid, the title is vacant and that is why NZ and la grenouille are playing tonight.
All Blacks Machine to steam roll ze frogs 20+
23 Oct 2011, 08:55 am
Nerves on edge, but SURELY this final is everything that’s logical in the world of rugby versus France?!?!? Right? Surely. Come on you mighty Blacks!!!
23 Oct 2011, 08:55 am
Guys …relax..its only a game of rugby.
23 Oct 2011, 08:57 am
We already know who is the best, we just have to go through the motions to prove it….;-)
23 Oct 2011, 08:58 am
Mpundi has been watching Cup of Dreams again.
23 Oct 2011, 08:58 am
@Cane 73(Cane 73)-21: My heart rate is 67 resting…and that’s it now for how relaxed I am.
23 Oct 2011, 08:59 am
Off to watch the game, go Black do the business.
23 Oct 2011, 08:59 am
Captain: I wish it was just a game, I wish it meant nothing, I can’t do four more years, I’m a devout believer in the awesomeness of the Blackness today we just have to believe!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:01 am
Dawn: I’m nervous bear with me, please!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:03 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-27: I have no doubt what so ever….I have always believed that they are the best, even with the losses we hold the measuring stick year in and year out…that says it all. Relax, be calm, be one with the boys belief.
23 Oct 2011, 09:05 am
Everyone calm the feck down.
The stars are aligned.
23 Oct 2011, 09:08 am
@captain fantail(captain fantail)-20:
Just winding you guys up one last time as per Brads request in #1.
And I have AB’s by 25.
23 Oct 2011, 09:08 am
@Bod(bod)-14: I already have my argument lined up:
We still have a better World Cup winning percentage than any other team in world rugby.
Therefor, while the ABs are reigning World Champs, our superior record means we are the true World Champs.
Feel Free to use it.
23 Oct 2011, 09:11 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-7:calm down mfondini you’re going to transfer your nervousness to the players!
the all blacks supporters at our pub are very subdued & tense hehe especially the one named rossoneri
23 Oct 2011, 09:12 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-32:haha
23 Oct 2011, 09:12 am
Captain: I’m a bit of a wreck right now, I just us to get to Kapa o pango and hit the business straight away.
23 Oct 2011, 09:13 am
Surely today cannot be Crackerdy Crack Sunday.
Would love to see some french magic though.
23 Oct 2011, 09:14 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-35:
Calm down there boetie.
Breathe.
Don’t forget to breathe!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:16 am
Transie: we’ve not been here since 1995, we deserve to touch and kiss Bill. this is our cup.
23 Oct 2011, 09:18 am
the All Blacks surely by at least 20, but then again, its the French, by a country mile the most unpredictable side in world side in the world. Can there forwards create pressure on the AB’S, can the AB’S 9/10 axis work going backwards, will Parra at 10 by awesome or awful, and thats just the players, what about the ref, surely this world cup will be remembered by all, except the eventual winners, for the refereeing calls, in some big matches really poor. Surely the All Black supporters are feeling positive, but the wee little bit of doubt, if we blow this one we will never be able to look the rugby world in the eye for ages……….
23 Oct 2011, 09:18 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-35: It’s all sweet as bro!
23 Oct 2011, 09:20 am
OK boys..have to assume the position.
talk after.
23 Oct 2011, 09:21 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-38:richie will deliver you ungaxhalabi
23 Oct 2011, 09:22 am
after watching “cup of dreams” again this morning i really hope the all blacks win…the people in nz NEED this.
23 Oct 2011, 09:25 am
I am a stormer: I’m trying to calm down mate. It’s tough!
23 Oct 2011, 09:25 am
Got my French jersey yesterday (collector).. actually a good looking jersey. Maybe I should wear it
23 Oct 2011, 09:29 am
Finally!!!! The greatest Rugby Team on the planet get to win a tournament designed to destroy it. Lets hope that Joubert is equallly interested in becoming the best referee in the world by blowing a fair and competent game. Joubert stands at the edge of the abbys. He can show the world that Rugby’s design is not congruent with its spirit or he could sink into the cesspool of evil alchemy.
Rise All Blacks Rise!!! One final blow!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:30 am
The moment of destiny and potential glory has arrived for the finalists. Only one team can win it and that team is the one who has the most points on the scoreboard by the time the referee blows the final whistle.
France can do it, only if they play a highly specifiic game for a long time, but they are unlikely to be permitted to do so by the most dominant team, certainly, in the last two years, the Mighty All Blacks.
By the end of this game we are likely to say that the world of rugby union has gone full circle and that N.Z. once again will be leading us into the next 24 year cycle as they did in 1987 when a racist S.A. was fittingly denied participation into the new competition because its majority, voteless millions demanded it to be so.
France will have to play, as they did in the first 9 mins. of the pool game, competitive rugby but for at least 65 mins. to be in with a shout of victory. But they cannot as they will be suffocated and pressured to finally capitulate. Where their Gallic minds are is the key question and who but they can truly know that answer?
At the very least we can hope for a tough, initially tight and exciting game leading to the crowning of a new, worthy and humble RW champion. I say that worthy champion will be the New Zealand All Blacks.
Many people in S.A., and especially in places like Cape Town, Port Elizabeth and Kimberly, will be extremely happy with just such an outcome.
Only time now can unfold the truth.
23 Oct 2011, 09:31 am
Go blacks, get Bill he is yours for the next 4 years … there is no way in hell that those Frogs can upset your chokers, no way in hell. Do not let those filthy Frogs get their slimy fingers on Bill.
23 Oct 2011, 09:33 am
Situation is perfectly set up for France. If they lose – well, they weren’t expected to win. But if they win? What a bonus! Like winning the lottery.
People wondering why so many of us saffas are supporting France – it’s sometimes forgotten that a sizeable portion of the so-called ”white” and ”coloured” population have french heritage via the Huguenots.
23 Oct 2011, 09:33 am
Those non-french nazi’s who are looking to France to keep their flame alive… rot in hell you twats
The Silver Fern is greater than the Swastika!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:34 am
ALL BLACKS RULE!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:35 am
As a proud Bok supporter, their’s no doubt the AB’s have dominated world rugby for the last few decades and they do serve this title for their supporters and nation. At the end of the day the game of rugby is bigger than any player or nation.
23 Oct 2011, 09:37 am
Ai Trans that Cup of Dreams show was so sad!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:39 am
M. Nonu to be crowned the RWC player of the tournament.
23 Oct 2011, 09:41 am
Hey – Craig ”Joubert’s” ancestors are also french – wonder if Paddy knew?
23 Oct 2011, 09:41 am
Watch the frogs sing their anthem – you get an ideall of the possible outcome forr this game.
23 Oct 2011, 09:42 am
the first 20 minutess will be brutall
23 Oct 2011, 09:44 am
Francee are missing the worldss Number1 scrummaging looseheadd
Thomas Domingo. Mas is the worlds Numberr 1 tightheadd – battle with Frankss will be titanicc!!!!!!
Go Fropgs!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:44 am
@raven(raven)-49: No, that’s not it. They childishly equate ANY All Black defeat as some sort of weird Bok “win-by-proxy”.
23 Oct 2011, 09:45 am
What’s the point of laying down a challenge on the field when people have conspired to win off it.
Hollow hypocrisy!
23 Oct 2011, 09:45 am
french playerr with a mad look in hiss eye is dangerouss playerr in world rugby!!
francee by 10!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:46 am
The kiwi peoplee have nott considerred a defeatt – imaginee the depression??
23 Oct 2011, 09:48 am
Gerber
Wat is dit mettt jou phoneee
23 Oct 2011, 09:48 am
ABs by more than 14
23 Oct 2011, 09:48 am
I wonder where Joubert got that new Renault Sports car from, that he drove up in?
23 Oct 2011, 09:49 am
Keven Mealamu eats frogs legs!
23 Oct 2011, 09:50 am
iphone
23 Oct 2011, 09:50 am
Going to be an interesting morning, hubby reckons if the Blacks dont win rugby wil be finished in NZ and its a have to win game, he is fully behind them and thinks they deserve to win after years of being the best team, so there fore I am going to be behind the Froggies just to get up his nose lol, and its working, makes for exciting viewing here at home
23 Oct 2011, 09:52 am
Bring it home boys!
23 Oct 2011, 09:53 am
We wants the precioussssss!
23 Oct 2011, 09:53 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-68:
Morning dear
ABs will win
23 Oct 2011, 09:54 am
And pops blows the horn
23 Oct 2011, 09:54 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-68:
I hope you have an antenuptial, if France wins.
23 Oct 2011, 09:54 am
God he needs underwear
23 Oct 2011, 09:55 am
Allez le Blues!
23 Oct 2011, 09:56 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-71: Think you are right, but is a bit boring having both of rooting for the kiwis lol
23 Oct 2011, 09:56 am
A french Justin Bieber?
23 Oct 2011, 09:56 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-74:
The cold wind does some men NO favours!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:56 am
It is merely the mystery of France that holds us captive and in tremendous suspense.
They have targeted this game only and did just enough to get here.
Do they have enough guile to withstand the All Blacks?
I doubt it but it will be a battle of great proportions with the ABs winning.
23 Oct 2011, 09:57 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-76:
yes true I am more worried about the wives and girlfriends of AB fans if they do lose
23 Oct 2011, 09:58 am
Dame Kiri looks amazing, has she had a facelift?
23 Oct 2011, 09:58 am
the chick singing the nz anthem is pretty,then they show the chicks in the choir and reality strikes…
knew it was too good to be true.
23 Oct 2011, 09:58 am
@carol(carol)-78:
But do we have to look at his butt?
Hi lovely
23 Oct 2011, 09:58 am
Go corey jane!!!
Do it for Lower Hutt!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 09:59 am
kapo o pango
23 Oct 2011, 09:59 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-72:
morning Dawn
@David(David)-73: but of course, and all in my favour
23 Oct 2011, 09:59 am
Pretty singer
23 Oct 2011, 10:00 am
oh my god the french are holding hands ??
23 Oct 2011, 10:00 am
oh my feck !!!!!!!!!!!! kyk na die Froggies ohhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa
23 Oct 2011, 10:01 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-84:
Actually, that white strip suits the French as they go into battle.
23 Oct 2011, 10:02 am
French mind games?
Will they regret it?
23 Oct 2011, 10:02 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-88:
Hi Coach
I had to call WRS to come and look at the Frenchie Boys holding hands…Looked like they were on a school outing!!
23 Oct 2011, 10:02 am
The Frogs charged the haka … not a good sign for the blacks, not good at all.
23 Oct 2011, 10:03 am
@David(David)-90:
White flag? Naughty!
23 Oct 2011, 10:04 am
Hier kom ‘n ding.
23 Oct 2011, 10:05 am
I just been called a Kroesader by a buddy!
23 Oct 2011, 10:06 am
France are going to battle to get past this ABs defense
23 Oct 2011, 10:06 am
Cmon Corey Hutt is watching!
23 Oct 2011, 10:06 am
Wrong call ref. The first offense is the tackler not rolling away.
23 Oct 2011, 10:08 am
Joubert has penalised France twice already when Richie is the one who has been slowing ball down
23 Oct 2011, 10:10 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-100:
Excuses already?
23 Oct 2011, 10:10 am
Ja katman
We too have a Tackler who just refuses to roll away!
23 Oct 2011, 10:11 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-101: excuses for what, it’s 0-0, just commenting on what I see
23 Oct 2011, 10:11 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-101:
Good Morning Rob
Just getting the lycra on here…Know the Kiwis will win, so will go training for a while!
23 Oct 2011, 10:12 am
Cmon Craig let the french play!
23 Oct 2011, 10:12 am
Joubert missed a clear early tackle on French left wing too.
23 Oct 2011, 10:14 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-103:
We all know your hatred of the AB’s so do not even try with the “commenting on what you see” nonsense. I can tell you now already what you are going to “see”
23 Oct 2011, 10:14 am
@carol(carol)-104: Now!!!!!!!! its the world cup final
23 Oct 2011, 10:14 am
Why is the game not stopped for th injury? THere was a line-out.
23 Oct 2011, 10:15 am
again richie, why do the officials always ignore him?
23 Oct 2011, 10:15 am
@carol(carol)-104: We dont believe you.
Post pics.
23 Oct 2011, 10:15 am
knee to the head of parra by filthy mccaw
23 Oct 2011, 10:15 am
@carol(carol)-104:
Morning, enjoy the ride- go fast uphill and slow downhill
23 Oct 2011, 10:16 am
Medic: “what’s your name?’
Parra: “Tuesday”
23 Oct 2011, 10:16 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-110: He was born in a manger.
23 Oct 2011, 10:16 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-108:
Things to do, places to go, people to see…!!
23 Oct 2011, 10:17 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-111:
There on Facebook!!
23 Oct 2011, 10:17 am
Try coming
23 Oct 2011, 10:18 am
Its like taking candy from a Frenchie
23 Oct 2011, 10:18 am
Easy as. Without a finger laid on him.
23 Oct 2011, 10:18 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-113:
Well a prop has scored a try, the writing is on the wall for the Frogs.
I will follow instructions ‘Coach’..Till later.
23 Oct 2011, 10:18 am
@carol(carol)-117: Do you know how many “carol’s” are listed on Facebook?
Oh well, better start looking through all of them.
23 Oct 2011, 10:18 am
Le Kak defense.
23 Oct 2011, 10:19 am
And a try scored from the Victor Matfield Playbook
23 Oct 2011, 10:19 am
that try was straight from the training ground
23 Oct 2011, 10:19 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-122:
The pretty blonde one.
23 Oct 2011, 10:20 am
Bonnaire wtf
23 Oct 2011, 10:20 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-126: in lycra.
23 Oct 2011, 10:22 am
Robzim and carol. Match made on keo.
23 Oct 2011, 10:23 am
crooked lineout crooks.
23 Oct 2011, 10:23 am
Skew lineout throw! Craig has lost it!
23 Oct 2011, 10:24 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-128:
btw, well done to your team yesterday and good luck for next weeend.
I am just about ready to give up on WP to ever win a cup again- but your’e team was good and deserved it.
23 Oct 2011, 10:25 am
Craig is giving the home crowd their calls
23 Oct 2011, 10:25 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-132: Thanks. And it’s never too late to join the rooibontes.
23 Oct 2011, 10:26 am
so far the ABs are the better team by a whisker – Craig is helping them though…
23 Oct 2011, 10:26 am
Woodclock is way better than the Frenchman, who plays really Poux…
23 Oct 2011, 10:26 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-129:
Naw, I am only a fan
23 Oct 2011, 10:27 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-134:
Not that desperate (yet).
23 Oct 2011, 10:27 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-136: Hennie Houtpiel got very lucky.
23 Oct 2011, 10:28 am
Morning, ladies and gents. Cup stays there.
Off the topic, great win by the Lions, very well done, go on and win CC.
23 Oct 2011, 10:30 am
Piri, it’s ok, you have got a flu but for ffs kick right sometimes.
23 Oct 2011, 10:31 am
Poor Piri, all kicks missed comfortably.
Bring on new kicker.
23 Oct 2011, 10:31 am
Dusetoir is tackling well.
23 Oct 2011, 10:32 am
Has he got a flu?
23 Oct 2011, 10:32 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-144: At least he was sick during SF, I doubt flu has been cured so quickly.
23 Oct 2011, 10:32 am
Brad interfering with jumper is way worse than Danie’s penalty that cost us the QF.
23 Oct 2011, 10:35 am
@Nils(Nils)-145: frog in his throat?
23 Oct 2011, 10:35 am
@Nils(Nils)-145:
C’mon, not over it after over a week?
23 Oct 2011, 10:35 am
Where pops panther and the boys?
23 Oct 2011, 10:36 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-149: In bed with a nasty choke.
23 Oct 2011, 10:39 am
here come Beaver!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 10:39 am
1995: Suzie’s food
1999: The Frogs had Champagne for breakfast that day
2003: no idea
2007: THAT forward pass
2011: Piri’s flu??
23 Oct 2011, 10:40 am
come on, they didn’t stop play for Parra
23 Oct 2011, 10:40 am
Eish !!! that hurt just looking at it
23 Oct 2011, 10:40 am
ABs dont bring on Donald please
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
Not a good day for flyhalves…
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
How come the game stops for Cruden, but not Paras?
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
Come on Corey take those kicks!
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-153:
Fair point
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-147: Nah, frogs are being kept fresh for using later.
23 Oct 2011, 10:41 am
@David(David)-157: He too was born in a manger. All the guys in black were.
23 Oct 2011, 10:43 am
No Cruden, Piri kicking like my ouma, and now they’re down to Donald. Eish.
23 Oct 2011, 10:43 am
I don’t get this play continuing when players injured.
23 Oct 2011, 10:43 am
#4 AB flyhalf now in action — great depth at #10!
23 Oct 2011, 10:43 am
Bad call by Joubert. Ball forward of a Frenchie in that line-out.
23 Oct 2011, 10:45 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-164:
it’s Stephen Donald
23 Oct 2011, 10:45 am
jerome kaino is having a quiet half
23 Oct 2011, 10:46 am
Ai craig.
23 Oct 2011, 10:46 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-164: Donald is depth? Come on.
23 Oct 2011, 10:46 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-166: It’s like saying Jorrie Muller is depth at centre
23 Oct 2011, 10:48 am
Weepu throws the towel in, HT
23 Oct 2011, 10:48 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-164: Hahaha, now that is funny
23 Oct 2011, 10:48 am
Tackler is being sarky.
Won’t roll away.
23 Oct 2011, 10:50 am
Surprising call by Piri to kick it out – but it’s the right thing to do for the ABs
They’re only 5 points ahead, the Frogs can come back from much further behind.
Let’s see which teams half-time speech works best… both teams tend to play better in the 2nd half.
23 Oct 2011, 10:50 am
Kiwis have already made Joubert their beeeeech…
23 Oct 2011, 10:51 am
Craig has been briefed well…
23 Oct 2011, 10:51 am
Looks like the French and All Blacks are looking to make history tonight by trying to play the most boring final yet..both teams are equally poor which should suit the French. Hopefully the second half will be better…SBW at center would be a good start.
23 Oct 2011, 10:51 am
@Micky Wicky(Micky Wicky)-174: NZ need to come out firing, it looked like France were in the ascendancy
23 Oct 2011, 10:52 am
tell you what if the frenchies score some points here, the kiwis could go into meltdown.
one can almost here the sphincters tightening from here.
23 Oct 2011, 10:53 am
so far id like to say thank you france for turning up and making this a contest for all rugby fans .
Joubert while he is doing a relatively good job he’s allowing the all blacks more play than the French but somehow France is holding on
If AB’s fans weren’t nervous at kick off… im sure its a different story now
23 Oct 2011, 10:53 am
Corey can take those kicks.
Breed ‘em tough in Hutt.
23 Oct 2011, 10:53 am
Yet another one sided reffing performance! NZ miles offsides at times and getting away with it
Interesting 2nd half ahead, AB’s need to step up
23 Oct 2011, 10:53 am
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-177: The 2007 final was worse than that…
23 Oct 2011, 10:54 am
@Rugby-1(Rugby-1)-182:
Yeah he is letting us SAFAs down with his strange calls in favour of the Kiwis. You have to be fair…
23 Oct 2011, 10:55 am
Well this is finals rugby,
French still looking like they can change the way this match is going at any minute.
Good to see a few on attacking the refs already.
23 Oct 2011, 10:55 am
If NZ get the next score, it’s probably game over.
If France get the next score, it’s also probably game over
Let’s hope one of them gets a score…
(Please let it be the Frogs or my French wife will ensure I live like a monk for the next 6 weeks!)
23 Oct 2011, 10:55 am
@cab(cab)-179:
Gotta agree….. “The General” Pirri is crumbling and the NZ weather is suffering from an almighty suction
France score first in the second half its goodnight nurse…
23 Oct 2011, 10:56 am
@Micky Wicky(Micky Wicky)-183:
I know..but these guys really are going all out to beat even that…5-0…mmmmmMan United put more past Arsenal in that ‘boring’ round ball game in which a goal only counts for one point.
23 Oct 2011, 10:56 am
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-177:
Instead of Nonu, who’s already got rid of Parra and is a constant line breaker? SBW is too slow for 13.
23 Oct 2011, 10:56 am
I think joubert has been ok he does need to watch the ABs offside
23 Oct 2011, 10:56 am
Enjoyable game so far
23 Oct 2011, 10:56 am
France are still in it, because of Weepu’s screw ups and luck.
If France can manage to score the first try… we have a game on our hands.
23 Oct 2011, 10:57 am
ABs poor display today makes losing in QF even more painful. Boks would have destroyed them today
23 Oct 2011, 10:57 am
Listening to ht comments on ITV, Fitzy sounds like he’s been on the sauce
23 Oct 2011, 10:57 am
@Bod(bod)-187:
interesting analysis, it is looking like the french are getting the upperhand…not sure the nurse can resuscitate the ABs.
23 Oct 2011, 10:57 am
Woeful kicking cost Wales badly in this WC.
Will it happen again today?
A solid kicker will win you a World Cup. Well it worked in 1995 and 2007.
23 Oct 2011, 10:57 am
@Bod(bod)-187: they should let Donald kick, Weepu is that bad
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-185: Joubert is embarrassingly one-sided for a WC final
23 Oct 2011, 10:58 am
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-188:
Dont watch the game,simple.
I am sure the world of rugby wont miss a sour person like you.
23 Oct 2011, 10:58 am
@David(David)-189: it was Richie who got rid of Parra with a knee to the head – not that getting rid of Parra was a great idea, Trinh-Duc is an actual 10
23 Oct 2011, 10:58 am
@simbachips(brendon)-194:
mehrtens has twice been on tv drunk.
23 Oct 2011, 10:59 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-185:
LOL….And he is a SAFFA!!! Shows how pathetic some people are…Just let the ref do his job. If they think they can do a better job then take a reffing as a career or please just comment on the game..you tense yet? ‘Cos these Frenchies are going to be targeting your Fly Half channel now…
This could yet turn in to a cracker….
23 Oct 2011, 10:59 am
@I am a stormer(I am a stormer)-196: And 2003 for some
23 Oct 2011, 10:59 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-197:
Actually, I thought one sidedness is a tradition.
23 Oct 2011, 11:00 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-197:
Joubert is on a hiding to nothing. If NZ are winning it cos the ref favored NZ.
Fact is any game NZ are winning, its cos of the ref.
I am use to it now.
23 Oct 2011, 11:02 am
damn that mccaw’s a great cheat, seems he’s developed some dirtmongering as well.
23 Oct 2011, 11:02 am
penalty v McCaw, well I never…
23 Oct 2011, 11:02 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-199:
Nonu finished him off, though. But agree about Trih-Duc.
23 Oct 2011, 11:02 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-204: I’m counting my “WTF Craig??” moment at 4 – 2 in favour of the ABs. I don’t think he is biased, but he should certainly get a little bit more cynical with certain tactics.
23 Oct 2011, 11:02 am
french 13 is having a stormer.
23 Oct 2011, 11:03 am
High tackle…
23 Oct 2011, 11:04 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-198:
Now you..I was trying to be nice…but you are an embarrassment..and I was being objective…now after that reply I will not do what most others would to people such as yourself..Instead I shall pity you.
Good luck to your team.
At least they have a bit more class than you.
23 Oct 2011, 11:04 am
Wasn’t that over.
Just asking.
23 Oct 2011, 11:04 am
NZ def look a bit rattled/nervous. Not their usual intensity and nothing like their performance in the semi. They need a moment of inspiration here – really don;t want to give the French a sniff
23 Oct 2011, 11:04 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-209: What, as in, he’ll never win a cup??
(disclaimer: I am a WP supporter)
23 Oct 2011, 11:04 am
Well well Frogboks are in full voice. Which is pleasing to see while Frogs have got a big fat zero.
23 Oct 2011, 11:05 am
Now, Donald – kick!
23 Oct 2011, 11:05 am
jeez craig why don’t u just kick it over for them yourself
23 Oct 2011, 11:05 am
whose gotten to joubert? damn that paddy. forget suzie, this is high-level rigging.
23 Oct 2011, 11:06 am
Woodcock’s swinging high tackle was just waved on. Why?
23 Oct 2011, 11:06 am
Donald does OK! 8-0.
23 Oct 2011, 11:06 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-204:
Open your other eye mate. I want NZ to win, but the ref is seriously one sided so far.
Dallaglio “All the 50-50 calls have gone with the home team”.
23 Oct 2011, 11:06 am
That was so close to missing.
23 Oct 2011, 11:07 am
Blatant high tackle just waved away and then it’s 3 points for NZ
Try France – justice!
23 Oct 2011, 11:07 am
Game on people!
23 Oct 2011, 11:07 am
Dusetoir!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
Game on, froggies respond.
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
noni is actually playing flyhalf, he is at first reciever all the time
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
Try
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
TRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Le Bleus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
Game has come alive.
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
Here come the froggies Nice try add the 2
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
oh yes, ABs on the ropes, now let’s see who’s got it in there
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
8-7 Game one.
NZ are playing sh*t, they have not pitched up yet
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
allez le blues!
try!
this a dangerous french side that pitched up today
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
HAHAHAHAHA … every kiwi’s ******** has just tightened with the force to crack a walnut.
watch this.
23 Oct 2011, 11:08 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-225: Forgive my horrendous spelling.
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
GAME ON !!!! this is lovely not having to stress and just enjoying a good game.
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
Chokey Dokey on the way….
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
where’s cowan?
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
oops first error, has the CCHHHOKEE begun?
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
french must kick into the corners and look for drop goals.
piri makes a simple mistake.
23 Oct 2011, 11:09 am
Ooooooh the pressure’s on the ABs now.
Let’s see whether they can respond better than in 2007
23 Oct 2011, 11:10 am
Weepu is having a shocker.
23 Oct 2011, 11:10 am
go france beat these overrated wankers
23 Oct 2011, 11:10 am
Game on.
Perry Weepu off not surprised he’s getting to emotional and up his own agenda..
23 Oct 2011, 11:10 am
Piri kicks out on the full, poor poor stuff
Weepu off now – that’s quite a few changes for the AB’s and it’s still early
French have their tails up big time now
23 Oct 2011, 11:11 am
Did the Frogs find the way into Joubert’s pocket?
The Poms certainly did
23 Oct 2011, 11:11 am
Trin Duc is way better than Parra.
23 Oct 2011, 11:11 am
I think the the french need to kick for the corners
23 Oct 2011, 11:11 am
its all france here, despite cheater mccaw’s best efforts…
23 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
here comes le famous choke
23 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
That mustache on froggie coach is to hidious
23 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
Delaying at the lineout?? Seriously? When’s the last time you’ve seen a ref blowing for that?
23 Oct 2011, 11:12 am
Hehehe, Frogboks getting agitated.
23 Oct 2011, 11:13 am
Up his own agenda!
23 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
nz getting away with offside play as always
23 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
French defence holding firm. Big hits going in.
23 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
mmm….being tackled back…These Frogs are gaining in confidence…Le Choke any one?
23 Oct 2011, 11:15 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-252:
I don’t think his wife is complaining.
23 Oct 2011, 11:16 am
This game is so much better than the high kick and charge negative rubbish we saw during the 2007 final.
Credit to both teams.
23 Oct 2011, 11:16 am
ABs starting to make mistakes, which is unusual.
Frogs making very few, which is also unusual…
Perfect storm??
23 Oct 2011, 11:16 am
France are the better team now
WTF are NZ doing, the worst I have seen their attacking game for a long time.
23 Oct 2011, 11:16 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-260: With you there… much better in the 2nd half
23 Oct 2011, 11:17 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-248: I agree.
Commentator saying pressure getting to all blacks so i say its chocking getting to the abs its chocking, hubby says hey dont dish my team lololol
23 Oct 2011, 11:17 am
The French tacklers don’t roll away as a rule and they aren’t penalised by Joubert?
23 Oct 2011, 11:17 am
Another high tackle (Donald) ignored.
23 Oct 2011, 11:18 am
@Micky Wicky(Micky Wicky)-263:
Yep…the game has really come to life!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:19 am
french tails are up
23 Oct 2011, 11:19 am
@Hondo(Hondo)-265: I thought the same about the AB tacklers in the 1st half… Craig not having a great game
23 Oct 2011, 11:19 am
here it come AB on ze rack le famous choke at the hand of le cockerel is on ze card
23 Oct 2011, 11:20 am
only the french are playing now.
the kiwis must not try and defend a 1 point lead.
23 Oct 2011, 11:21 am
Le choke sportif.
23 Oct 2011, 11:21 am
Everyone stop crowing please.
23 Oct 2011, 11:21 am
nz overrated
23 Oct 2011, 11:22 am
jouberts been promised a farm, the french are tearing up the script tho.
23 Oct 2011, 11:23 am
If the ABs win with that score it won’t be the better team on the day that has taken it…
But a win is a win, and the scoreboard never lies.
23 Oct 2011, 11:23 am
southern hemisphere ref definately benifitting nz.
french don’t appear to have read the “form book”
typical
23 Oct 2011, 11:23 am
beaver is so out of his depth
23 Oct 2011, 11:24 am
Well done ref???? Any one complimenting him on some good calls there? No?
23 Oct 2011, 11:24 am
MASSIVE SKRUM!
What the hell???
23 Oct 2011, 11:25 am
Harinordoqyu into Kaino at speed is a Big Collision.
23 Oct 2011, 11:25 am
unless Joubert bales their arses for sake of his pal Paddy ‘O AB’s could be facing one more famous choke
23 Oct 2011, 11:25 am
Good play by the Frogs.
23 Oct 2011, 11:25 am
Great scrum France – finally get a scrum penalty. Big chance here!
23 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
Oh, Frogs are choking!
23 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
France are simply better
Chocking, Shmocking
23 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
terribly bad sportsmanship shown by the AB faithful, booing a missed kick, its just not rugby.
23 Oct 2011, 11:26 am
Frogs are awesome dealing with high balls.
23 Oct 2011, 11:27 am
I have it good authority that cane and black panty are now drinking with both hands.
23 Oct 2011, 11:27 am
NZ ARE CHOKING !!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:29 am
Points say the abs are leading and thats what counts
23 Oct 2011, 11:29 am
This is simply a mental thing for the AB’s need to knuckle down and do the basics
23 Oct 2011, 11:30 am
Dagg has a serious punt on him!
France needed to score with all that pressure, if AB’s can score now the cup is in the bag
23 Oct 2011, 11:30 am
nz scrum being owned by the french
23 Oct 2011, 11:30 am
Great kick by Dagg. He really is an all-round player.
23 Oct 2011, 11:30 am
Oh shut up you all
Scoreboard!
23 Oct 2011, 11:30 am
kick for the corners france lineouts are working
23 Oct 2011, 11:31 am
Nice one, Donald.
Steer the ship to victory and all sins forgiven.
23 Oct 2011, 11:31 am
AB’s coming back into it now
23 Oct 2011, 11:31 am
NZ looks like they will hold on here. France aren’t able to take their opportunities.
23 Oct 2011, 11:32 am
NZ are such farken cheaters at the breakdown, the tackler never roles away.
23 Oct 2011, 11:32 am
By far the best Frogs game in the tournament. Well done. Game till the final whistle.
23 Oct 2011, 11:33 am
If another commentator has to tell me how Donald was whitebaiting when he got the call-up, I’m going to lodge a complaint with the IRB.
23 Oct 2011, 11:34 am
ABs are desperately hanging in and liable to make a disastrous mistake in their panic.
23 Oct 2011, 11:34 am
Alors! Zees leetle minkeys have forgotten how to surrendeur!
23 Oct 2011, 11:35 am
How many high tackles do NZ get away with, fark me!
23 Oct 2011, 11:35 am
Katman!
23 Oct 2011, 11:36 am
Will Joubert have the balls to blow a penalty against NZ here
23 Oct 2011, 11:37 am
Kahui and Jane tackling hard all game
Imagine Henry picked Rockococo and Sisivatu?
Or Aplon for that matter
23 Oct 2011, 11:37 am
Roll away tackler!
23 Oct 2011, 11:37 am
Nonu off for SBW – brave call
23 Oct 2011, 11:37 am
this is going to make for an epic finish
23 Oct 2011, 11:38 am
One penalty/drop (or absence of it) will seal it.
Whoever wins, hail the champion, totally deserving.
23 Oct 2011, 11:38 am
Down to the wire. Advantage All Blacks…
23 Oct 2011, 11:39 am
Half back making his debut in a final by the French!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Madness!!!!!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:40 am
one penalty should do it. french looking the better side.
23 Oct 2011, 11:40 am
wow, where was this french team a few weeks back.
that dusetoir bloke is awesome.
kiwis look like they might scrape home by a point
23 Oct 2011, 11:40 am
AB should win it from here now
23 Oct 2011, 11:41 am
@Rugby-1(Rugby-1)-318: think you’re right
23 Oct 2011, 11:41 am
Now just keep the farkin ball in hand for 5+ mins.
23 Oct 2011, 11:41 am
SEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:41 am
Ive noticed that both Imanol Harinordoquy and Rougerie were on the field in 2002 when France demolished England
A long time in test rugby
23 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
Froggies still have their secret weapon to play, stomping on Maccaws foot lol.
23 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
Donald KICK IT.
23 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
nz will concede a penalty if they keep trucking it up.
phew lucky they get a penalty, that should be it.
23 Oct 2011, 11:42 am
Game over for France.
23 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
Penalty NZ – game over! Well done NZ, worthy champions but played well below your best in the final
Dussotoir MOM, great game
23 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
NZ must thank the ref for this game, this must be the worst WC ever… Farce of note
23 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
Never have I witnessed such a tense test ever!
23 Oct 2011, 11:43 am
Well done the All Blacks.
Congratulations.
23 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
THE CHAMPIONS!!!!
And my sincere admiration for France, what a turnaround, they are great team, has been and always will.
Merci beaucoup.
23 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
Well done Kiwis, congrats, a great game by both teams today.
23 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
Well Done AB’s you deserve it
23 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
Congrats to NZ – the better team didn’t win, but the scoreboard never lies. Enjoy your victory!
23 Oct 2011, 11:44 am
Well done ABS..good game and good WC…you deserve to gloat for the next four years
…@ ‘Cane hopefully you are a good sport and acknowledge this..or as expected you will be a prized douche…but well done none the less.
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Congrats Kiwis!
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
A4Y yarpies!
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Well done ABs Congrats tougch game
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Congrats to the All Blacks.
Well deserved win,great final.
Let’s see what happens in 4 years time:-)
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Awesome final!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
talk about falling over the line….
well done the kiwis, france the better side on the day but you deserved some good fortune…
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
IT’S IN THE BAG!
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
I really feel sorry for France. They did everything except win.
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Well done All Blacks. At last you’ve got that m.onkey off your back. Enjoy the occasion.
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
overarrated wankers, how high tackles did they get away with
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
My nerves.
Well done New Zealand. What a climax.
I don’t think the nation would have survived a late French penalty.
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Congrats NZ, immense defense worthy champions – enjoy the party!!!
Well done France, excellent performance
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
Congrats the All Blacks
23 Oct 2011, 11:45 am
@ET.(ET.)-329: Uhm….95 WC final!?!?!? Were you born then? But yes..if you were a French or AB supporter it was tense..good game to both teams.
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
ABs not to be proud of that WC title. Best teams : Boks and Wales
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
Great stuff new WORLD CHAMPS!
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
Have I missed anything??
Well done Kiwis and the French did not roll over like I thought they would. Credit to them
(That hurt me to say that) !!
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
Well done AB’s tough game not easy at all.
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
Congrats AB’s. France played better but that’s not the stat that matters in the end
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-337: You’re just a Japie hensopper.
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
ABs 3-2,france 3-0 gotta be the ultimate WC chockers.
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
Well done All Blacks. Best team in the tournament.
Well played France, you almost had this one.
23 Oct 2011, 11:46 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-337: Well Done Tackler…we will allow you to be a douche for the day
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
@ET.(ET.)-329:
what **** you talk.
where was your great nz running rugby tonight?
skop and jag won the day!
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
Spare a thought for Dan Carter please.
Tragic.
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
Finally after 20 years and five disappointments and this year – mining diaster, eartquake – Kiwis have something to cheer.
Congratulations Kiwis!
Congratulations, Richie!
Congratulations to the Frogs for a massive, nail-bitting final. You could have won, too. Despite all disarray, what a players, what a team.
But now it won’t matter. ****** is off the back.
Phew.
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-337:
Oh, p8ss of you retreaded idiot.
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
Cane, Poppa, NZ in China, and all my mates from NZ – well done lads – enjoy every moment!
Tough luck France – you guys were epic in this final!
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
And finishing the game with 4th choice flyhalf.
Well done, boys.
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
Well Done AB’s. In the end you deserved it. Well done France. On the day you guys were awesome. Could just have gone your way as well.
23 Oct 2011, 11:47 am
CHAMPS
Oh yeah.
Anyway hats off to the French for putting up a huge fight.
NZ won the first half but lost the second.
But as we have heard for years on here, defense wins the RWC.
23 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
well done all blacks, new World Champions
23 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
Well done, Kiwis. Well hosted and well played. The All blacks are worthy winners. And you had the two hottest anthem singers too
23 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
@frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-350: your a d*ck
23 Oct 2011, 11:48 am
Well played Frog’s and hard luck.
ABs well played, well deserve world champions.
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
The intensity actually increased last 20 minutes, and it wasn’t really a stroll in the park the first 60 minutes
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
I have not ever seen the ABs so denied of the ball as they were in that second half.
France were even more adventurous too in the 2nd stanza and ABs strangely did all the damn silly kicking.
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
It’s been a long time, this is just sweet, there’s no better feeling, this is the best year ever, I just can’t believe it!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
Sleaze 8 Sport 7
Sad day for rugby, finally killed by professionalism and corrupt commercial interests
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
Tackler you did not answer me yesterday.
I have a great gf,fam and friends.
Career and busy designing my bigger better home at the dam.
You have your mom and good spelling.
What else?
You are going to die a lonely old man in a country where you immigrated to but never integrated.
You are a failure.
23 Oct 2011, 11:49 am
Enjoy the moment guys. For four years you will be the champions of the world. Great tribute to the Christchurch supporters.
23 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
This result is good for the people of Christchurch.
23 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
@RL(RL)-370: mate,lose to tonga,how can you win a WC?
23 Oct 2011, 11:50 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-337: A serious question. Are you retarded? You come across as being very stupid.
You are a Yarpie idiot, you are NOT a Kiwi.
You are a YARPIE, YARPIE YARPIE
23 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-373:
well done mpu, you should be proud of your boys and your kiwi ancestry, well done big fella.
23 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-373:
We finally got it mate.
23 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
Congratulations to AB’s and fans.
Well deserved- cherry on the cake and “justice” reward for being the number one team in the world for a number of years
Great show by the French too.
23 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
well done NZ. Keo I absolutely disagree with you. The AB’s were clueless on attack. But maybe you are trying to justify your wholly inaccurate pre match prediction.
23 Oct 2011, 11:51 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-375:
Fern, settle down man.
23 Oct 2011, 11:52 am
beaver?!
23 Oct 2011, 11:52 am
overrated nz, won a tainted world cup, ****** refs, crappy grounds, how many highg tackles did nz get away with, dusatoir immense, unlike offside mccaw, oh well even the sunshine shines on a dog’s *** now and again.
23 Oct 2011, 11:52 am
Well done ABS you are the best team in the world. Pitty the BOKS lost to the Aus because the ABS were ripe for the taking.
23 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
To all All Black supporters who where actually born in New Zealand or actually have New Zealand parents CONGRATULATIONS.
23 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
Congrats Kiwis, you showed the guts and deserve the cup. Look after it better than we did, as world champs.
23 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-384:
I am cool,he took me on yesterday,still awaiting his reply.
23 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
AB got their long awaited precious but France deserved it in the end
Set up nicely by the diabolical refereeing fiasco in the 1/4 final AB’s only had to deal with their own bogey team in the end and they almost faltered again at the hand of their nemesis but eventually 1 point and a missed penalty by Trun Doc stood between the greatest close call win and another famous loss.
France should not have taken off Yachvili with 5 to go was the new scrummy who knocked on with 3 min to go and handed back possession to the AB’s.
23 Oct 2011, 11:53 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-377: Well at least there should be less wife beating tonight
23 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
@cab(cab)-380:
Same thought sprung to my mind…. there is hope for him though, just ask Trevor Manual
Gootted…. I am fooking gooted
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHH!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-375:
Shame, you will never get it, will you?
23 Oct 2011, 11:54 am
Congratulations New Zealand
23 Oct 2011, 11:55 am
@maximus1(maximus1)-386:
If your French, then you played a good game but lost.
If you South African, then i understand your post even more.
23 Oct 2011, 11:55 am
ABs well and truly outplayed.
France the better side on the day, that’s for sure.
23 Oct 2011, 11:55 am
@Bod(bod)-393:
lol, mpu is v amusing.
23 Oct 2011, 11:55 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-390:
lol, course your cool, never doubted that.
23 Oct 2011, 11:55 am
Dermie : thank you ! In fact you’re right : an 8-7 victory at home against a team who lost 50% of its pool games is really something to be proud of…
23 Oct 2011, 11:56 am
Well done AB’s. Good game, well reffed. Oh why can’t the Kiwis take a leaf out of the SA refs book and just blow the game without influencing the outcomes. In other words just stop cheating.
Glad it was another Southern Hemisphere victory albeit a contrived outcome.
23 Oct 2011, 11:57 am
@Porto(Porto)-392:
Thank you but its not goihng to stop the rapes and beating and killing in other places.
23 Oct 2011, 11:57 am
Thats the sort of game that is the reason I love watching rugby above all sports. It was intense to the extreme. Credit to the French, massive hits, MASSIVE!!!
AB’s defended like trojan’s and deserve their win.
Awesome game, if French won I would have celebrated but it would have been the least deserved WC win in history.
23 Oct 2011, 11:57 am
fk me, did ted actually crack a smile…?
23 Oct 2011, 11:58 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-394:
enlighten me please
23 Oct 2011, 11:58 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-395:
Thanks BH
23 Oct 2011, 11:58 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-402:
Like in the rest of the world?
23 Oct 2011, 11:58 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-381: It’s the sweetest thing!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
A win is a win, is a win.
France should have taken it – but they didn’t.
Most consistent team in this tournament, and deserved winners overall.
23 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-402:
Excellent comeback
23 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
congratulations All Blacks and Kiwis, really tight final there but well deserved champions, enjoy your victory
23 Oct 2011, 11:59 am
@frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-400:
Yep and it is something to be proud of.
French lost 3 games in the RWC, Boks lost one. You really need to pick the games a bit better if your going to lose.
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
congratulations NZ, well done. enjoy the moment and the next 4 years
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
the sheepshaggers won a tainted world cup, who gives a damn, to the all black glory supporters, go and shag some sheep.
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
@maximus1(maximus1)-386:
Mate NZ dominated world rugby for the last 24 years without a WC win, think they deserve it, dog **** is really not something you should call this AB team.
The French rose to the occassion, they were immense, but didn;t deserve to win.
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
We are watching a healing moment for a nation now.
They needed it now like we needed it in 1995.
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-405:
Don’t worry, it is ok.
23 Oct 2011, 12:00 pm
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-407:
Everywhere Golden
23 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm
Someone posted this conspiracy theory earlier…if nothing else, its damm funny
http://blogs.dieburger.com/KevinD26/irb-se-wbeker-komplot-om-all-blacks-te-laat-wen?page=2
23 Oct 2011, 12:01 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-397: they scored 1 try off an AB’s error why do they deserve anything p.s they lost to tonga.
23 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm
I suspect the All Blacks are very happy that they didn’t have to play the Boks in the play offs. France made some bad decisions with 10 minutes to go when they kicked up and unders instead of kicking for the corner flags. That gave the All Blacks the chance to regain composure.
23 Oct 2011, 12:02 pm
Well done to the All Blacks. To all the boys on here – go out and have a few, it’s been a helluva journey.
23 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
Much rather the AB’s win it than the substandard Tricolors (Do they still go by that name?)
23 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
Nice to hear legend like Francois Pienaar saying what he said on telly. Hope you all heard it.
Nah, no a “lip service”.
23 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-397:
Thanks Sheriff for your continued support throughout this tournament.
23 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
Now please can anybody who believes you can win an WC with the kind of expansive rugby bloggers and rugby writers want the BOKS to play just wake up and watch this game.
23 Oct 2011, 12:03 pm
Off to a celebratory breakfast. Long live the Silver Fern. Long live All Black domination
Amandla!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm
France played the whole tournament with a scrumhalf at flyhalf. Thrin-Duc showed the real French team today. The pool rounds meant nothing in the context of the competition.
23 Oct 2011, 12:04 pm
@Suidkapenaar(Suidkapenaar)-421:
Well i think ABs made some bad decisions as well. Piri had a terrible day, missed 8 points and gifted the French a try.
23 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm
@Nils(Nils)-424: what did he say?
23 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm
@Connag(1112Connag)-401: You must be joking there was atleast three occasions in the last 15 min where the all blacks tackler didn’t release or roll away all in easy penalty range . This rugby world cup will be rememberd for having the worst refs in the history of world cups
23 Oct 2011, 12:05 pm
Well done Ritchie and the boys and your fans.
Go and enjoy it.
Well done to the Frogs for making this a good one to watch and your time will come.
23 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
Yes, Golden Boy, they still go by the name Tricolores
23 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-427: What does Amandla got to do with it. I hope you arent one of those traiturous Caped Crusaders
23 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
Told the all black glory supporters with a south african ref they will win, unlike kiwi refs who should stick to netball
23 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
All Black players feel like g-ds now.
23 Oct 2011, 12:06 pm
Congrats to the All Blacks for their first legit RWC title. Welcome to the club!
23 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm
@NagouGrote(NagouGrote)-426:
Fair point, but have you noticed that inbetween the RWC, expansive seems to win games more than not.
Comes down to if you want the RWC over most of the games you play.
23 Oct 2011, 12:07 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-425:
You cannot applaud cheating.
Let me watch the excessive self-congratulating for a bit …
23 Oct 2011, 12:08 pm
Why does Dan Carter get a medal?
23 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm
And a small word of thanks can go to Craig Joubert as well, he turned a blind eye to a lot of NZ infringements.
23 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm
The one thing that’s been intriguing me, is why they chose the Jupiter suite from Holsts Planet Suite as the theme for our own world “being in union”.
23 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm
@frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-433:
Thanks Frenchie..BTW, your coach should be fired for bringing on a debut scrum half with 5 minutes left to play..that was just poor…and it was this same unfortunate player who knocked on at the base of the ruck 20 meters out with 3 minutes to play…
23 Oct 2011, 12:09 pm
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE GREATEST RUGBY NATION IN THE WORLD. THEY DESERVE THAT CROWN. HOPEFULLY THEY WILLNEVER STOP ENTERTAINING US. THAT IS WHAT SPORT IS MEANT FOR!!!
23 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-439:
Sherrif, you have problems with anything NZ does, but its good to have you on board and watch the best team in the world and World Champs get the trophy they deserve.
23 Oct 2011, 12:10 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-430: Mostly what it means to players and he would regret if one of the rugby legends (in this case Richie McCaw) would have ended his international career without this feat. He mentioned also his son’s (who he said is a Richie fan) sad reaction to the Blacks loss last time and how now he can cheer.
Things like that. Nothing too special, just nice to hear that from another rugby legend.
23 Oct 2011, 12:11 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-439: Cheers, enjoy sour grapes while others are partying.
23 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-443:
The last desperate move by a clueless coach I guess.
The French did very well in spite of him, he is a bit like our own Divvy, even got a mini-moustache.
23 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
Not a one decent FH performance the whole tournament after Carter was scratched off!
Playing the frogs today was a hell for the ABs without Carter and it was left to a GH’s reject Donald to save the day!
23 Oct 2011, 12:12 pm
@David(David)-442:
lol, its a helluva theme though.
i think they should have chosen the lion king for our local sttruggle compatriots on here …. liliellieeellieeeeeee, nans njok nyama, hau hau hau!
23 Oct 2011, 12:13 pm
Come on SA supporters if you are fair you will realise that the ABS have been the best team for quite a while – The BOKS and AUS are really the only team to compete. They beat Aus and Aus beat us yes with some KIWI ref assistance but thats the nature of the game. Let’s be graceful they are the only team who deserve this win.
23 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-445:
Mate you were outplayed tonight, did you see the game?
I will congratulate only BRYCE LAWRENCE.
23 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
The elusive balance in World Rugby Union has once again been restored.
Is Hayley a New Zealander?
She sings often with Andrea Bocelli
23 Oct 2011, 12:14 pm
to the guys who head up SA rugby…..if we want to climb the summit again then we need to get THE BEST coaches and management team in place. One cannot compete at this level without the best in place.
23 Oct 2011, 12:15 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-452:
We were outplayed in the second half only.
There is 2 halves, so i think your the one that missed a game.
23 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm
@ET.(ET.)-453:
If ET, yep shes a Kiwi.
I think her parents or one of them are Irish
23 Oct 2011, 12:16 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-448:
Luckily the world of rugby will be free of these to buffoons (I hope!!) PDivvy may yet end up at Province or the Stormers (Shivers down my spine)
23 Oct 2011, 12:17 pm
@Nils(Nils)-447:
Are you waiting for me to say congratulations?
Congratulations to Craig Joubert for being composed and ensuring the fair contest. What a future he has!!!
Tough luck to the French boys – I salute you guys; they thought they would run away with it, but in the end were shown to be vulnerable and desperate.
23 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-448:
But he got them to the final, didn’t he?
how far did Divvy progressed?
A small difference
23 Oct 2011, 12:19 pm
Bryce Lawrence must surely get a medal! He was by far NZ’s most influential player.
23 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@Golden Boy(Golden Boy)-457:
Mascot or luggage manager at the most
23 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-459:
I think you will find the players got the team there…like Divvy, he was only along for the ride…where were you when the players openly revolted against him!?!?!?!?
23 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-458: Nah, I am waiting you wailing , complaining, moaning and whingeing till cows come home. That’s what I expect from you, nothing else.
23 Oct 2011, 12:20 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-461:
Even that will be a disaster!!!
23 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-459:
Lets not analise it so deeply, lol.
23 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm
All Blacks are really the yrue world champs because SA was part of it, lol.
23 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
Jonny Wilkinson just drop kicked a ball all the way from NZ to UK. That boy’s still got it
23 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
Well done Cane and NZINCHINA, enjoy it.
out for good.
23 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
This World Cup unfortunately will be remembered for wrong reasons. Cheating referees>
The Boks and all the SA S15 teams should refuse to play under him.
23 Oct 2011, 12:22 pm
@Connag(1112Connag)-460:
Normally refs get golden watches.
23 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
Well done AB’s – enjoy the 4 years. Hard luck Le Bleus – hope this proves beyond any doubt that defence and passion are the main ingredients in WC rugby, and that only fools are ”certain” of the outcomes of these big games.
23 Oct 2011, 12:23 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-408:
Mthakathi, congrats xhego lam.
23 Oct 2011, 12:26 pm
@NagouGrote(NagouGrote)-451: The game is over the trophy handed out.
As I was watching the game tick away with the possibility of the French winning I knew of the disappointment that would follow, not for me so much but for the Richie and the boys…, but would have been happy for the French for the game they gave us. I salute them.
For us, I salute them for staying strong with a list of injuries that bought the heros out in all and there is no more for me to say on this blog for a while. Justice has been done.
23 Oct 2011, 12:27 pm
Cheera everyone.
For all Kiwis and Blacks fans – finally m-onkey is off the back.
For all French and Les Bleus fans – your team showed what they really are, one of the very best, always have been, always will.
For all dissers – hope sour grapes taste delicious.
23 Oct 2011, 12:28 pm
This will no doubt be good for NZ, and they were the best team at the tournament. For that I congratulate them. However and its a BIG HOWEVER, the IRB had a lot to do with the win, with the selection of cheating refs. Steve Walsh the drunken Kiwi who has popped up in Australia, could well have been in line to ref the final. Unfortunately this World cup will always be tainted.
23 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm
Now for the next 24 years to wait for another one! Enjoy!
23 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm
@captain fantail(captain fantail)-473:
Justice will only be seen to have been done when the IRB overhaul the referee review and selection process.
23 Oct 2011, 12:29 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-456:
Good man and CONGRATULATIONS to your boys for a wonderful final and a superb tournamment.
They did what they had to do even if they played an uncharacteristic game forced on them by France.
Carter and even Cruden were missed for those kicks(for points) but Donald was the last point scoring hero with that kick.
France played just as I said they should and made this Final a damn good tense and tough rugby union spectacle. McCaw and Thorn were real champs.
23 Oct 2011, 12:30 pm
Winning % ratio of the All Blacks under Graham Henry management. phenomenal.
23 Oct 2011, 12:32 pm
Congratulations to all the very patient Kiwis who have taken intolerable abuse for years from the so many arrogants.
23 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm
Breath a sigh of relief and bask in the glory of champions. Never before has a RWC game gone down to the wire in that fashion….where the winners were hanging on by guts and a will to survive at any and all costs…this is the stuff of RWC matches.
France will leave New Zealand feeling that they let themselves down. Had they the belief that they could have done the nigh impossible, today could and would have belonged to them.
Well done and enjoy your spoils All Blacks….because today you showed the world why you deserve the tag of World Champions.
23 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm
Congratulations to Graham Henry and Wayne Smith!
I’m happy for them as people, because if they lost it again 2nd time round it would have worse than suicidal.
Ted is a great coach and Wayne humble despite arguably be the top backline coach in the world.
23 Oct 2011, 12:34 pm
@Nils(Nils)-474: they lost to tonga!.
23 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
@Peter Mkata(Peter Mkata)-479:
You must be ecstatic Peter Mk., even though it was immensely tense?
23 Oct 2011, 12:37 pm
@Nils(Nils)-474:
How much joy juice have you already downned? Congrats for your great final win.
23 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm
now all the cowan baggers might sit back and say,yeah piri isn’t gods gift.
23 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm
Well so the World Cup is over and the ABs are the world champs. Congrats to them…
Now its time to sort out this mess we can rugby. Refs are far to influencial in rugby. That is because the rules are open to interpretation and it needs to be addressed, now. All rucks are 50/50 calls, a penalty at any of them would not be technically incorrect. Scrums are a mess, this crouch-touch-pass-engage….
And all of the defenses are always offside, never allowing a proper attacking game.
This is what needs to be done:
1. Sort out the scrums……
2. Reconsider Stellenbosch rules. Mainly at the rucks: I think if you are on your feet and onside you should always be allowed to compete for the ball. That will force defenses into the ruck and not standing offside to defend and create more space for the backs.
3. Get 2 refs on the field.
4. Make penalties kicks only count 2 points, the team with the most tries should be the winners.
23 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-481: maybe you forgot 2 went into extra time …….
23 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm
John Mitchell shedding a tear on TV maybe we need a coach with some real heart and not a blabbering idiot as we had.
23 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm
@ET.(ET.)-480:
Second ET on that statement. It was generally below the belt. Hope that thing will mature a bit now foward.
23 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm
@ET.(ET.)-484:
Really am ET. The All Blacks beat all best teams in this world cup unlike the Boks who really beat England last time round. Not that it was their fault must add.
23 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm
@473 cap fantail – justice has indeed been done. I was at the match, and the ab’s were the better team – just – despite being down to our 4th choice no.10 due to severe injuries. The ab’s showed amazing bmt to win the cup, and for that the south African rugby supporters should applaud us as we applauded your one point win over wales.
This isn’t the best attacking team the ab’s have fielded, and overall our 1995 and 2007 teMs were better. But this team played positive rugby, beat every team in front of them, and had the mental toughness and belief in each other to win the world cup/
We are deserved world champions. The springboks are no longer world champions, they were generally woeful since they won in 2007 and could only scrape their way to 8th place this WC.
I am over the moon for Graham Henry, smith, Hansen and McCaw. They were crucified in 2007, but had he fortitude and sheer courage to go amoher 4 years. Congratulations guys.
We are the world champions.
23 Oct 2011, 12:43 pm
@Petri(Petri)-487: bring back rucking,simple.
23 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm
After listening to many on this site for 4 years say defense oriented teams shouldn’t win world cups. Today we saw the worlds most expansive teams play a territorial game and witnessed the “dropped” Stephen Donald win the match.
RWC finals are won by kickers and tacklers!
Well done AB’s make the most of tomorrows public holiday
23 Oct 2011, 12:45 pm
@dermie(dermie)-493: 5. and rucking…
23 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm
France played a massive game today. But it was not to be.
Today belonged to the All Blacks and this was their crowning glory. They showed why they are the no.1 ranked team in the world. They had to dig really deep to pull this one off. But that’s what champions are made of. And they have a good core of players who will stick around with the AB’s for another year or two.
Savour the moment. It doesn’t come around often.
23 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm
@surreyshark4(surreyshark4)-488:
No I didn’t forget…but thanks for your concern. The French had all the ball. No RWC final has ever been this one-sided in terms of possession. Boks vs New Zealand and England vs Oz were nowhere near as tense….the French were clearly the better team.
The chaps on OSN Sports agreed.
All Blacks deserved this victory in terms of wins and their history no doubt.
23 Oct 2011, 12:47 pm
@Peter Mkata(Peter Mkata)-490:
Did you enjoy that type of game as I did? It is the flip side to the running game but is still beautiful in its own right.
Now the ABs can once again return to their normal game as the 24 year load has been finally lifted.
Watch out for the young but more experienced Aussies in 2015.
23 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm
@NagouGrote(NagouGrote)-489: He had a good weekend.
23 Oct 2011, 12:50 pm
It is just interesting how kiwis crave fairness.
One disappointing thing from Ted is that he never gives the opposition credit unless I missed it.
If he did my apologies.
But we are not allowed to reflect on Bryce’s gross negligence which cost us in the end. It is not very sporting to talk about that now, but Bryce tainted this tournament and as sore losers we all are, we will always remember this one as the one where got bryced.
Its a ginormous pity because I would have been the 1st here to congratulate the winners.
Just like I congratulated Mitch and team last night beating my team…
23 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-500: In 2007 they got “Wayne Barnes”ed so fair is fair in the end.
23 Oct 2011, 12:53 pm
A hearty congratulations to France for playing a really good game sadly the calls that counted went against you the penalty that Donald scored should have been awarded to you.
Well done NZ enjoy it but sadly you must realise that this world cup is going to be remembered for Englands off the field antics, and diabolical refereeing and blatant refereeing bias and not for the rugby or who won it.
NZ may have won two world cups just like the Aussies and South Africa but they have never won a wc away from home and that is the real mark of a great team winning it without home ground and refereeing advantages and favouritism.
But none the less wifebeaters enjoy it
23 Oct 2011, 12:54 pm
@Peter Mkata(Peter Mkata)-491:
Agree. This was a real tough, tense final of a great RWC. Unlike the c rap of 2007.
Balance in the union game is back where it belongs, away from the spoilt brats.
23 Oct 2011, 12:56 pm
well done all blacks.
it was gritty towards the end and the french really brought it you, but you kept it together just enough.
enjoy the next four years.
23 Oct 2011, 12:57 pm
According to Tim Horan this was the best RWC ever and surely he should know a thing or two as he has two medals.
23 Oct 2011, 12:59 pm
@NagouGrote(NagouGrote)-451:
How can you say Boks and Aus are only team to compete – when Aus got pumped and All Blacks just got home by one point against France – did you even watch the game – the written-off les Bleus, which you are still doing, came to play and totally shut down the vaunted AB side in every phase while scoring the try of the match?
The French were heroic today and threw acid in the face of all their dumbed down critics; it’s a game that could have gone either way and Dusatoir was by far and away Man of the Match; just magnificent.
I’ve got no gripe with this result but give France their due and respect – 8-7 at Eden Park is something I personally take my hat off to and the bloggers on this site who knew that France would come to play are the ones that know their rugby.
23 Oct 2011, 13:01 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-500: pinhead gave the opposition no credit in 95,even though they beat a crocked side.
23 Oct 2011, 13:03 pm
@Petri(Petri)-501:
If they did it was not at the ultimate winners South Africa’s initiative.
This was more deliberate and planned.
Bryce was sent in with specific instructions which he executed.
As a South African one can only hope that the standard of refereeing improves as South Africa right now has a limited chance to get refs that can handle a game of this magintude.
It will always be remembered that New Zealand eliminated one of their toughest rivals in world cup rugby in that way. This is the hour where they should be congratulated but there is a decidedly bad taste in the mouth of many today.
Fair contest.
Craig gave them that, but Bryce did not. I will remind this forum of this for another 4 years.
As high as the skills levels of coaches and players of NZ, so pathetic is their refs. Lets see if they can win this thing away from Auckland, I doubt it….
23 Oct 2011, 13:03 pm
@bluealligator(bluealligator)-502:
agree.
Francee were the better sidee – alkl the statss favored them at endd.
won the scrumm battlee, best lineout in worldd, backlinee fired better then the ABs.
the subsitutionn of frenchh 9 for a newbiee (on debut) was nuts!!!
as was the replacementt of front roww. Only the frogss be stupidd!!!
Greatt gamee FRance – You shouldd hold your headss high. Congratss to theirr captainn for winning Man of the Matchh
23 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm
@J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-506: lost to tonga, scored a try of an AB mistake,what do you want?they lost and justice prevails.
23 Oct 2011, 13:04 pm
@ blue alligator: loser loser loser, we are the world champions. Bend your knee, chump.
23 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-508: didn’t loose a game,ABs deserved to win.
23 Oct 2011, 13:06 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-509:
You agree with that post???
FFs that post is smacked with sour remarks, put downs etc, then he tried to cover it with a congrats but makes a joke of wife bashing.
You really need to read exactly what he has said here
23 Oct 2011, 13:07 pm
frenchh captain deserves to be playerr of tournament!!
frenchh 8 was a colossus at lineoutt. Nicholass Mas and Servantt did the businesss up front.
France Lost the Cup.
23 Oct 2011, 13:07 pm
On French TV you can actually see a kiwi supporter saying the French should have won the game : looks like the kiwi crowd is better quality than the kiwi trolls hanging around this blog
23 Oct 2011, 13:08 pm
@J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-506: Not only 8-7, but they were by far the better side today.
In fact this WC will for me be known as the competition where the better sides ended up losing (Wales v France, SA v Australia, France v New Zealand).
Unfortunately this is down to the ref a lot & I think Craig Joubert missed too much in this game.
23 Oct 2011, 13:09 pm
@frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-515: you lost to tonga you deserve nothing but ridicule,p*ss off.
23 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
@The Bill(The Bill)-516: your a wind up merchant,surely
23 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
The French have really stepped up in terms of their willingness to keep the ball in hand. No kick and chase rubbish….it was a real pleasure to watch them commit themselves to this game.
Worthy opponents of note. Boks beware. If the French coach stays on he will have himself a certain championship team…these boys are suddenly getting in to their stride.
23 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
it will be interestingg to see if NZ mediaa gives credit to Francee???
especiallyy when the man of match was fromm losing sidee!!!
France wonn everythingg but the scoreboardd!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:10 pm
woohoo
23 Oct 2011, 13:11 pm
@frenchiebokfan(frenchiebokfan)-515:
NZ missed 8 points worth of kicks at goal.
We gifted the French a try.
NZ won the game.
I would never say the French should have won.
They could of, but they didnt.
23 Oct 2011, 13:11 pm
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-519:
rememberr, francee could playy Fiji nextt and lose!! lol
23 Oct 2011, 13:12 pm
@dermie(dermie)-518: Not at all why? Craig Joubert missed at least 3 high tackles which had even the English commentators questioning him. No love loss between English & French after all.
23 Oct 2011, 13:12 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-520: wanker.
23 Oct 2011, 13:13 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-522: Well the favour was returned. Your try was 100 times softer than the Frenchies.
23 Oct 2011, 13:13 pm
Congratulations! South Africa! For being perhaps the most consistently piss poor rugby side in International terms. You lose, I’m sorry to say this but; to Australia. Shame that. You have been a joke to international rugby since its introduction. The same rumble fumble i’ve been watching since the game aired on television. I’m sorry South Africa, you really try hard but when can you lose so much, be horribly inconsistent and expect to win.
Joke.
T.Roal.
x
23 Oct 2011, 13:14 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-522:
but be hardd for NZ mediaa to get anythingg positivee from the statss from this game.
butt they are worldd championns onetheless!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:14 pm
@The Bill(The Bill)-524: you lost to tonga,your only try was off an ABs mistake and no barnes to save you.JUSTICE.
23 Oct 2011, 13:15 pm
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-519:
Spot on Shark
In fact the French played the ABs game more than the ABs did.
ABS kicked away so much ball and kicked badly.
It was close and if NZ lost, that was the reason why.
French gave it there all. Written of by most.
23 Oct 2011, 13:17 pm
Imanol Harinordoquy 10/10
23 Oct 2011, 13:18 pm
@dermie(dermie)-529: Didn’t know justice was a criteria in sport. If it was, France would have won this game as they were by far the better side in this game.
As I said to Hurricane, the NZ try was far softer & I think the French try was well earned after all the pressure.
23 Oct 2011, 13:18 pm
@The Bill(The Bill)-526:
Was it??
They practice along time to get those moves to work.
Takes weeks to master. But if you think it was soft then so be it.
23 Oct 2011, 13:18 pm
It doesn’t matter who the French lost to in the pool. The RWC has only one goal; to reach and win the final. It’s not bloody gymnastics.
23 Oct 2011, 13:19 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-508:
Take some time to reflect on this deputy New Zealand are the world champions and you aren’t.
23 Oct 2011, 13:19 pm
frenchh bakclinee showed more flair
23 Oct 2011, 13:19 pm
what other WC champion has won playing their 4th choice 1st five?
the duck makes history. the irony right there is wonderful
Kia kaha world champions!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:20 pm
JC,
A great read,
And I hope, with all my heart,
that you enjoyed (as much as possible) your stay in NZ.
Thanks’ for your input, and thank’s also to Keo.co. for sending you here………………………along with Ryan.
Sincerely Yours,
cane.
23 Oct 2011, 13:20 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-528:
G13
You of all people know what NZ media is like, i dont even like them.
Dont judge NZ people from what those clowns say.
23 Oct 2011, 13:21 pm
What a release of emotion!
The best team on the day and the tournament managed to scrape through a pulsating final.
France were outstanding.
Where the hell did game come from. We all know they are good for one weird game each tourney, but why the hell do they insist on picking the AB’s?
23 Oct 2011, 13:21 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-536:
Sure did.
NZ just kicked and kicked and kicked. Not only that aimless kicking as well.
Was not impressed.
23 Oct 2011, 13:21 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-539:
I left a congratulatory reply for you at 478. Hope you saw it amid all your obvious excitement.
23 Oct 2011, 13:22 pm
@dermie(dermie)-529:
Brilliant Dermie thinks Tonga are on a par with the All Blacks – 8-7 at Eden Park was gigantic – if you can’t see that nobody can explain it to you
23 Oct 2011, 13:22 pm
@All Blacks – World Champions for A4Ys(poppa69)-537: That is incredibly scary. The 4th choice & he is cool as a cucumber. In fact only Slade didn’t look comfortable.
The kiwis produce rugby players that love & play rugby irrespective of the occasion.
23 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-530:
Congratulations. Two excellent teams playing a great final. I enjoyed watching it as much as I would have, had South Africa reached the final.
23 Oct 2011, 13:23 pm
Congratulations also to Alain Rolland for staying out of the game.
When he spoke to Craig about the 2 No 4′s I thought he will reduce the final to yet another scandal.
Of course Rolland has consistently in the 2010-2011 season cheated the Boks.
Anyone reflecting on today’s game will almost forget that Craig was the ref. What a ref! Congratulations to a bright smart bloke!!
For the romantics among us: it would have been beautful if Craig could award a decisive penalty to France to win it. That would have been special!
But he has too much integrity! It’s as simple as that.
23 Oct 2011, 13:24 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-533: Agreed, but the Kiwis were under pressure for ages, then just one quick turn around & a try.
Not grumbling, just think the french worked harder for the try, hence less soft.
23 Oct 2011, 13:25 pm
South African style rugby could never win a modern World Cup. It’s sad though. For all the hardship and hope they’ve had to endure. South Africans must be hurting. They’ve lost, and they lost with ease. It is unfortunate.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 13:25 pm
@ET.(ET.)-542:
ET i saw that. I apologise for not commenting and thank you mate.
It feels really good and lets say relief at the same time. A strange feeling i must say.
Again thanks mate, i am overjoyed. Rugby means alot to me as you can tell.
23 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-543: ABs have never lost to Tonga,how could you be WC champs if you had.
23 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-514:
I would agree with you concerning Dusautoir .
Until the 76 minute……………………………. when he put the boot into Sir Ritchie.
And just to show it was not an accident……………………………he then lifted all his weight onto his right side to compress the stomp.
23 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@The Bill(The Bill)-547:
Yep get your point Bill.
23 Oct 2011, 13:26 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-541:
exactly what Grant Fox was sayingg – pointlesss kicking by Weepu, Ellis
I couldd feel the nerves of a countryy whenn france scoredd!!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:27 pm
@The Bill(The Bill)-547:
I reckon the ABs worked just as hard for theirs. The difference is that it was done on the training ground.
23 Oct 2011, 13:28 pm
@Thucydides(Thucydides)-545:
Excellent, a true rugby supporter. Thanks mate.
23 Oct 2011, 13:28 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-530:
A brilliant final played by two teams that play innovative exciting rugby….well done.
23 Oct 2011, 13:29 pm
@cane(cane)-551:
publicc enemyy numberr 2??
Man of the Matchh still and deserveddd it.
23 Oct 2011, 13:29 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-553: where was cowan?idiots.
23 Oct 2011, 13:29 pm
To France and Le Fans of Len Tricolors.
You were magnificent.
From the wedge to the final whistle.
23 Oct 2011, 13:30 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-546: He awarded a penalty for NZ to win it though, a fairly dismal call. He missed a lot. He did let Ritchie and Thorn lie all over the ball again today.
Big game, big pressure, he missed a few things. That said, the balls bounces one way or the other and it just didn’t bounce exactly right. French made some silly errors too. Thought for a moment NZ was going to lose, but they hung in there.
Not the greatest win but if that were SA we would all take it.
23 Oct 2011, 13:30 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-553:
oh yeah, when France scored, the heart just sank.
What actually made them to kick all the time when all could see it was not working.
23 Oct 2011, 13:30 pm
Well done AB’s, you deserve it. As for the Kiwi fans that made Coopers life he’ll you don’t deserve s h i t. Now all we need is get with our Kiwi d i c k head coach and we might do a bit better
23 Oct 2011, 13:30 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-549:
” A strange feeling i must say ”
Get used to the heavy load off your back and enjoy your celebrations.
You are too far from the ticker tape parade, I think, to be part of it.
23 Oct 2011, 13:30 pm
@dermie(dermie)-550:
That’s why the ABs are the World number one in the rankings. The RWC is a seperate competition with one goal.
23 Oct 2011, 13:31 pm
Len Tricolors. = Le Tricolors.
Sorry Froggies.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 13:32 pm
at least if Craig Joubert emigrates to NZ he should get favourable status after his performance today.
23 Oct 2011, 13:32 pm
@cane(cane)-559: they lost to Tonga,travisty if they won the WC.ABs 3-2,france 3-0 who’s the chokers now?
23 Oct 2011, 13:32 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-561:
I reckon there must be a lot of soiled Kiwi pants at the end of that match.
23 Oct 2011, 13:33 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-535:
Mate, I watched a game today handled by a superb ref where the French dominated your team for most of the game.
They looked more composed and no doubt the better team on the night.
But I’m a lot bigger than that. The result stands because Craig Joubert ensured a fair contest.
In the end I was happy for Ted and even Wayne Smith – note the omissions.
Ted is the leading coach in world rugby, a simple man but very astute.
I would actually love for Wayne Smith to come and coach in South Africa. He has achieved his life goal now – I know he will however be involved with a kiwi team.
My scorecard for NZ:
a. Hosting : 9 out 10
b. Commentary: 6 out of 10
c. Refereeing: 1 out of 10
d. ABs play: 7 out of 10
Point c above refers mainly to the efforts of Paddy O’Brien and Bryce Lawrence
23 Oct 2011, 13:33 pm
South Africa are so good. Should have won the world cup. Such great attack. Smit is the best player & captain that ever lived. Smit to captain boks to RWC 2015! Bismark to be dropped, kak.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 13:33 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-561:
spot onn – Frogss shouldd have keptt ball in handd. All Blackss shouldd have donee samee. Nonuu and Dagg weree invisible tonitee
23 Oct 2011, 13:35 pm
@ 560 goodthing – exactly, saffas would take a win like that all day long!
We entered the tournament as the no1 team in the world. We beat every team in front of us. We won the final. We finished no1 team in the world, and world champions. What more is there to day?
The world champion all blacks.
23 Oct 2011, 13:36 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-571:
Nonu invisible? Did you actually watch the game? He played his heart out.
23 Oct 2011, 13:36 pm
Imanol Harinordoquy
betterr then Matfieldd at stealingg lineout ball!!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:36 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-570: moron.
23 Oct 2011, 13:36 pm
@David(David)-573:
standd correctedd – Nonuu impactt was minimall!
23 Oct 2011, 13:37 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-560:
Remember my criticism is not aimed at the players.
I was happy for the ABs to be in the last 4 or even 2 teams. I think they deserve that.
My comments refer to the behind-the scenes scheming that made a mockery of the competition resulting in Bok fans forever wondering ” What could have been if Bryce was not there ?”
We cannot forget about as it is the principle of fairness that is at stake.
You won it in the end, but did not do it in a fair manner.
23 Oct 2011, 13:37 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-571: france new chokers of WC rugby!
23 Oct 2011, 13:38 pm
@cane(cane)-565:
Now you can face the ‘yobs’ on here with a boldness unforeseen before today.
Give them he l l and shut them up.
23 Oct 2011, 13:38 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-569:
you have been bagging NZ and its people constantly so your belated congratulations means **** all to me reflect on the tripe you have written here recently
23 Oct 2011, 13:39 pm
@SAussie/QldRed(SAussie)-562:
Thank you SAussie.
It was not poetry,
but is was hellishly tense.
23 Oct 2011, 13:39 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-576:
Have to agree; Nonu was one dimensional – even kicked a rugby ball for the first time in his life
Rougerie was all of him/them
23 Oct 2011, 13:39 pm
@cane(cane)-551:
Come on Cane – and Richie’s knee into Parra’s head? What about that – it’s called test rugby (actually lucky for les Bleus because replacement fly-half was outstanding)
23 Oct 2011, 13:40 pm
@ET.(ET.)-563:
Sure am to far away.
I am in the city of earthquakes, we didnt see much of anything. Lucky for television.
23 Oct 2011, 13:40 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-577: the ABs would have smashed you.wondering over.
23 Oct 2011, 13:40 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-548:
i know this is in fact what you really want so i’ll just go ahead and give it to you, as well as throw in tackle’s for no extra effort.
go ffuck courself yunt!
23 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
Viva La France.
Viva Tricolores.
Viva Les Bleus…
Heroes.
Thats all…
23 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
France were outstanding tonight.
Why the hell can’t they play like that all the time?
23 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-584:
Why aren’t you out on the sauce?
23 Oct 2011, 13:41 pm
@ET.(ET.)-579:
Only some of them are yobs ET.
Only some.
Some, like us, can see the beauty in a single flake of snow.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 13:42 pm
@corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-572: Don’t get me wrong, half my family won’t sleep tonight, when I spoke to them before the game the were already putting back too many Steinlagers for a Sunday night, but that wasn’t a great performance, but on the scoreboard it was one point better than the other guys, that’s all that is needed.
Congratulations to the ABs, the pressure must have been massive, no one could know how much.
When we look back the ABS will be champs, the refereeing of the tournament will be a major point of interest, just for the sake of the game.
Scrums have become such a sideshow what function to they perform? They are supposed to give the ascending team a platform to go forward but the way it is refereed it’s a lottery so why not uncontested restarts.
Why not allow rucking, hands in will be over, a few scrapes never hurt anyone.
The laws are a dogshow, change them.
23 Oct 2011, 13:43 pm
@Brads(Brads)-588:
Well said Sir Bradley.
They were magnifique.
23 Oct 2011, 13:43 pm
@Brads(Brads)-588: because they’re not the ABs!
23 Oct 2011, 13:43 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-577: I am a SAFFA Sherriff, not a kiwi.
Bryce is a disgrace to rugby, but then so is the IRB and Paddy O. The laws are a sham. Simple.
23 Oct 2011, 13:45 pm
@dermie(dermie)-575:
Even though i have no support for New Zeeland i think they deserved to win tonight. South Africa is a pretender for rugby, they fluke any win they get. It’s unfortunate for todays rugby, Bryce Lawrence gave them a fair game and they scream ‘cheaters’. South Africa aka. “Sprengboks” are a disgrace and should be boycotted from international games from here on. It’s no good for the expansion of rugby if these afrikaaner clowns continue. Their style of rugby is killing the game and putting everyone off. They deserve to lose. Their participation in the 3 nations is an absolute joke and should be replaced by the Pumas. Imagine the expansive play rather than breakdown cheating and overall misconduct.
Would be magnificent!
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 13:45 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-591: it’s a common point already mentioned,BRING BACK RUCKING.
23 Oct 2011, 13:45 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-587:
Dead in the water duck!
No one remembers who the loser ever is. But the winners name is forever on the GOLD.
23 Oct 2011, 13:46 pm
@Brads(Brads)-588
they areee france
theyy couldd play Japann next and lose!!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:46 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-580:
New Zealand has shown an inability to win the RWC away from home; they need to play at Eden Park and need 60,000 fans to shout ‘All Blacks’ for most of the game.
They also need to manipulate the referee allocations and ensure that they follow a path where there is little or no resistance.
France confirmed my suspicion today that there was an irrevocable belief in the AB camp that the Boks are physically superior to them. France made them look decidedly ordinary.
Happy that the awkward Stephen Donald could land that penalty or did he? It looked for all money that he missed, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
23 Oct 2011, 13:46 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-577:
We didnt win in a fair manner??
You didnt say much when in 2007 NZ was knocked out by a forward pass.
But better late than never to complain about refs i suppose
23 Oct 2011, 13:47 pm
@cane(cane)-590:
Beautiful and congratulations for a super RWC and a great even though tough and tense final. I enjoyed it immensely.
23 Oct 2011, 13:47 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-584:
TV1 (a nztv chanel) had a camera inside the Wainuiomata Rugby Club Rooms,
You should have been feeling well at home.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 13:47 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-594:
I know; I saw it afterwards
Simply replace ‘you’ with ‘them’
Sorry mate; think you’re a Sharks supporter if memory serves me right
23 Oct 2011, 13:48 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-595: it’s now the 4 nations,we’ll see the how the argies go.Better than the faulklands hopefully.
23 Oct 2011, 13:48 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-589:
I am at home having few beers at with me daughter.
23 Oct 2011, 13:48 pm
Imanol Harinordoquy
immensee!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:49 pm
@ET.(ET.)-601:
Rugby won today and the world of rugby union is finally back in superb balance. Now dominate and keep it there.
23 Oct 2011, 13:49 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-599:
I’m not interested in the tripe you write, the Ab’s are world champions and you have 4 years to reflect on that.
23 Oct 2011, 13:49 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-605:
Few beers at home that is.
23 Oct 2011, 13:49 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-605:
nice mate enjoy!
23 Oct 2011, 13:50 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-599: you lost to cooper,ABs smashed them.Bugger off.
23 Oct 2011, 13:51 pm
@cane(cane)-602:
Real??
lol the old club rooms, boy i have been very messy there over the years
23 Oct 2011, 13:52 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-599:
It pains me to say.
You are pathetic. You have lost and you are unable to accept your countrys incompetence. You have lost, and you will likely never win again. I’m sorry. Your country is absolutely piss poor. You grovel when you lose and you are ingrateful in defeat.
I’m sorry that your country is no good at this egg shaped ball game.
You suck
T.roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 13:52 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-610:
Some how the beers seemed to taste alot better after the game.
If i start not making sense soon, you understand why.
23 Oct 2011, 13:53 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-600:
Your pass was not ruled forward by a South African ref.
Remember we went on to win that tournament when you choked, much like you choked today.
I thought Dusatoir’s try was to use and Australianism ‘sensational’ ; he had such composure and dominated McCaw and Kaino on their beloved Eden Park
Remember if you are fair, the world will acknowledge you as such.
Mitch and Plum are here in my country and I have acknowledged them as the best coaches. They are kiwis. So there goes the argument that some of us are against the kiwis.
Watch how Ted will become Sir Ted.
23 Oct 2011, 13:54 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-582:
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-582:
“Nonu was one dimensional – even kicked a rugby ball for the first time in his life”
… and a great kick it was, too. More generally, in the game I watched, Nonu played very well; reckon Henry deserves credit for backing him over SBW.
Anyway, as the great Naas used to say: cowboys don’t cry. I guess you’re a different breed of cowboy.
23 Oct 2011, 13:54 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-614:
Yip they sure do, its been worth the wait.
23 Oct 2011, 13:55 pm
@dermie(dermie)-567:
It was close Dermie. Close.
But I was never one to right off the Froggies.
*****……………………………………………they had me on the edge of my couch……………………………………………….I was pumping down beers like they were tranquilisers.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 13:55 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-608:
Why are you here on a SA blog?
You are unaware of your desire for us to acknowledge that you are the best.
23 Oct 2011, 13:56 pm
@dermie(dermie)-611:
The truth hurts; that’s for sure.
23 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-615: scored of an ABs error,didn’t even look like scoring a try of their own attacking play.
23 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-615:
So the forward pass in 2007 was ok cos a South African didnt call it?
YOur TMO called a forward pass in this years 3 nations, lost us the cup really, do you have a problem with that? Or was that fair as well?
Oh yeah, and by the way we choked today for sure. lol
23 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
Peter mkahata: enkosi mfodini, ndiyo sela ngoku!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-619:
because it has a nice international flavour, haven’t you got some reflecting to do?
23 Oct 2011, 13:57 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-613:
Mate you dont even understand rugby union.
It will be nearly impossible to explain the virtue of fairness to you.
23 Oct 2011, 13:59 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-612:
Real…………………………………..for sure.
They had several members of Peri’s extended family on as well.
23 Oct 2011, 13:59 pm
@Thucydides(Thucydides)-616:
Nonu felt the pressure big time; Rougerie made him look ordinary today – that’s for sure.
23 Oct 2011, 14:00 pm
@cane(cane)-618: me too,Doesn’t help when your a cowan fan.
23 Oct 2011, 14:00 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-619:
lol
We dont care what you think Sheriff.
I dont think one Kiwi here expects any congratulations from you.
Let us live in the moment of being the best team in the world.
23 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
@cane(cane)-626:
Great stuff, shame Piri didnt play like we know he could tonight.
23 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-613: wanker.
23 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
@dermie(dermie)-621:
Their game plan was to feed off AB mistakes and that they did.
When he got up I said this man has the face of a winner; he struck a deep psychological blow today and they will fear him for the rest of their lives.
The man epitomises ‘compsure’
23 Oct 2011, 14:02 pm
NZ ………………………..1st.
France……………………1st =.
SA…………………………..8th =.
Sorry Okes, coulded help myself.
(thanks Popps).
8)
23 Oct 2011, 14:04 pm
Just so happy. Don’t care that we won be one point. Congrats to france for a great game. France did themselves proud. Tonight we celebrate as a happy united country.
23 Oct 2011, 14:05 pm
@dermie(dermie)-628:
Jimmy looked like he was enjoying himself post match.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 14:06 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-625:
Perhaps you’re correct.
Your joke of midfield crash ball deserved to win the world cup.
Springboks. Schalk Burger midfield crash and eye gouge, formula to win.
So much field possession and territory how could you lose? Impossible I say.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 14:06 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-629:
The truth is: you do.
Reflect on that.
The RWC is full of ironies – in the end I’m happy for the kiwis – in the big scheme of things eg the economy, the hard work of hosting, the 24 year burden and of course the natural disasters there; I’m truly happy for the people.
Im happy for other like Mitch and no many others who failed and could not help but shed a tear that finally its gone their way.
But it does not mean that we need to turn a blind eye to what was clear manipulation; if we do that we would be denying our own values.
23 Oct 2011, 14:08 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-627:
The only thing that’s for sure is that you are an exceptionally bad loser. Whenever you get an urge to complain about the ref, the venue, or whatever, I suggest that you looks at the scoreboard.
23 Oct 2011, 14:11 pm
Sheriff
a SA talking principles?
what a sore loser you are.
23 Oct 2011, 14:14 pm
Helen: Helen where are you now!!!!! Where’s the choke my little one, come out and say something Helen speak dammit!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 14:14 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-637:
Ummm Sherrif, no i dont expect a congratulations from you at all.
Get over yourself
23 Oct 2011, 14:14 pm
@cane(cane)-635: great team man,what was ellis doing there?
23 Oct 2011, 14:16 pm
Wooden spoon: where are you now? Screaming and shouting, where’s your bodice, show me something now!
23 Oct 2011, 14:17 pm
Congrats to AB’s and all the supporters on here, you guys deserved to be crowned champions. Sheriff you really are being a sore loser
23 Oct 2011, 14:17 pm
the rightful order of world rugby has been restored.
other less noble teams have been vanquished
the gallant French leave with respect.
SA left two weeks agp. they should be well rested by now.
23 Oct 2011, 14:18 pm
Rossoneri: you understand what we’ve done, you can feel it, this is just massive, where’s Helen that charlatan?
23 Oct 2011, 14:18 pm
@dermie(dermie)-642:
All 3, 1/2 backs were up to the call dernie.
Just like all 4, First 5′s were.
8)
23 Oct 2011, 14:18 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-637: no sympathy for the ABs in 07,just alot of don’t be whingers.
23 Oct 2011, 14:21 pm
@Thucydides(Thucydides)-638:
Mate, South Africans won today.
Craig Joubert represented us there today.
Superb performance and a benchmark for the dishonest refs to aspire.
In the end, South Africans are the real winners today (your tonight)
23 Oct 2011, 14:22 pm
@cane(cane)-647: c’mon jimmy’s errors are blown by the commentators.piri’s are ignored,now what are they going to say,he had a horror.
23 Oct 2011, 14:23 pm
@Test(Test)-644:
Tes Tos Terone.
Well said.
But there is more to the Lawman than a post here and there.
23 Oct 2011, 14:25 pm
As an england born South African it’s unfortunate the All Blacks won. Though it fills me with joy the “Springboks” didn’t win. They are just international pretenders. They blame their imcompetence on refs, decision making, game plans etc when they are lucky to be in the world cup in the first place. A real mind f*ck how most lowly 3rd world southern africans can’t see that. It makes me sad that their education is so low.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 14:27 pm
I’ve waited a long time, we’ve waited a long long, the bill is ours!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 14:28 pm
To the All Blacks and their proud fans, well done, you hung on in the end. Great game. Great team. Great victory. Enjoy! I hope it does not take another 24 years. To my beloved Boks, the future is bright!
23 Oct 2011, 14:28 pm
poppa69, corporal punishment, hurricane, cane, stew, captain fantail, black panther, nils, brads, waka Nathan, namblack, mpundulu, rossoneri, tackler, chiefs fan, stodders, marvinb, kiakaha nz, we are celebrating your triumph with you guys, good things come to those who wait enjoy the victory. To Richie, bedecked and bejewelled in black and gold you will go down as one the best if not the best. If anyone ask you who you are, just look em inthe face and say, I’m the star up in the sky, I’m the mountain peak up high – yeah I’ve made, I’m the worlds greatest. In the ring of life I will reign love and when all is darkest I will shine a light. Special mention to the French for providing a real contest and lastly ignore maximus and sheriff, bitter and twisted souls underplaying your victory. They don’t represent the views of true Bok n Saffas
23 Oct 2011, 14:30 pm
@Sheriff(Lawman)-649:
” performance and a benchmark for the dishonest refs to aspire.”
Sheriff, I know you better than this.
And what is more,
You know you are better than this.
5 or 6 (who knows how long) years of Keo.co.za tell me you are letting your standards slip!
23 Oct 2011, 14:31 pm
Congratulations All Blacks on a tough RWC victory. This was a victory appropriate for the times. After the disasters that have befallen New Zealand of late an uplifting moment like this brings satisfaction to all friends of NZ.
I hope your reign is sweet and short because we will be wanting that trophy back in four years.
23 Oct 2011, 14:32 pm
T.Roal, we don’t miss the likes of you. You are a plonker. Nothing wrong with our education. How were we “lucky” to be there you plank, we were defending champions!
23 Oct 2011, 14:33 pm
Goodnight all.
but most specially to Le Froggie Fans,
Man O man, your Team was good.
Be proud.
23 Oct 2011, 14:35 pm
I blow my nose at south african rugby. This world cup has proven they are lucky quarter finalists. Pfft, shouldn’t have graduated out of their pool. It’s a travesty to world rugby that they did.
Everybody knows they should be thrust down to the European cup level.
IRB should do something about it. Just like their refereeing, another flaw.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 14:36 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-649:
You are a joke.
I really dont understand why your such a negative person.
23 Oct 2011, 14:37 pm
@rugby fan(rugby fan)-655:
Through the time zones …………………………………………and it ain’t easy.
I embrace you RF.
Thank You so much.
I know it ain’t easy.
23 Oct 2011, 14:37 pm
@rugby fan(rugby fan)-655:
Thanks fan
23 Oct 2011, 14:37 pm
@cane(cane)-651: Mate I just dont understand how some of my fellow Africans here just can’t give credit when its due. Small man syndrome seems to win out over rational thinking. I remember what it was like when the boks weren’t given credit when they deserved it and fact is that the AB’s were the no 1 ranked side coming into the comp and they’re still ranked no 1 plus the cup at the end of it. I appreciate consistency, it takes a lot of hard work to stay at the top. Anyway I’m outta here, enjoy.
23 Oct 2011, 14:39 pm
@cane(cane)-656:
Cane your too nice.
Lawman has been a disappointment over the last few months.
He is not getting any better.
Shame really.
23 Oct 2011, 14:39 pm
@cane(cane)-659:
23 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm
@stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-657:
lol thanks Stormer.
23 Oct 2011, 14:40 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-661: Dont worry about sherriff, we are the world champions, he can suck on it long hard and with disappointment, we’re the champs done and dusted!
23 Oct 2011, 14:42 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-665:
sorry that should be You’re not your.
Damn if Kobus was on here i would be in trouble but i think i will be safe for a while. People like Kobus go missing when things dont go their way
23 Oct 2011, 14:42 pm
T.Roal, you want to badmouth our education, but the “I blow my nose at south african rugby” statement proves your lack of class and maybe education. Go play and leave this rugby talk to the adults.
23 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm
@MG. I suspect toilet roal is Lord Kirchner or some other ahrs scratching who can’t teach climac without some fantasy involving veldskoen and a copy of huisgenoot.
23 Oct 2011, 14:43 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-668:
we sure are the champs.
Damn feels good.
23 Oct 2011, 14:44 pm
As the rugby professional I am i recommend South African rugby focus on the grassroots side of things. They have no platform to create great rugby players, they produce breakdown cheats such as brussow and complain that Bryce Lawrence (In my eyes a respected IRB Referee) penalises him for cheating. I don’t understand. South Africans can count themselves lucky, a quarter final for your country? Should be proud!
23 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
Cane and Hurricane you are welcome with love all the way from Zimbabwe
23 Oct 2011, 14:45 pm
Hurricane, enjoy it, you guys deserve it!
23 Oct 2011, 14:47 pm
I haven’t been to this site for ages, I got so sick of the minority here who’s disgusting vitriol turned me away.
However, great to see the majority of bok fans supporting the ABs in their moment of glory, thanks bokkie fans, It’s the true bok fans and players that make the rivalry so worthwhile.
Just a shame the minority of plonkers here are so sick and twisted, more so than on any site I have ever been to.
23 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm
@ T. Roal. Evening Tackles. So upu were born in England, you say.
23 Oct 2011, 14:48 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-649:
“Mate, South Africans won today.”
Nope, NZ won today, and France gave them a pretty good run for their money. In case you did not notice, the Boks are back in SA, playing CC.
And quit speaking as if you speak on behalf of all South Africans. I’ve been supporting the Vrystaat and the Boks for as long as I can remember, and will continue doing so. That does not prevent me from seeing that NZ has a better team at the moment – one that knocked out Australia in the SF, who knocked out SA in the QF. You can play the victim all you want, but it won’t change a thing about the fact that they’ve got the cup for the next four years, and deserved it.
23 Oct 2011, 14:49 pm
@rugby fan(rugby fan)-674:
Damn that really nice, thank you.
@MG(MG)-675:
Thank you MG,it could have gone either way. Damn French again put up one of those performances that we all knew they were capable of.
23 Oct 2011, 14:50 pm
@stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-657: We need to be consistently at the top between world cups too. I hope our rugby aspirations move beyond just the world cup every four years and we start to perform during the four years too. So many here were saying that the trinations didnt count that all that counted was the world cup and now we dont have that either. At least OZ have had a good record this year and a trinations title to go with that, what do we have?
23 Oct 2011, 14:50 pm
T.Roal, now you just showed the whole world what a plonker you are. We were not complaining about Bryce penalising us, he was not penalising Pocock. CHOP! And as for the education part of things, I is with a capital, try and spell check before you start throwing stones.
23 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm
It didn’t have the extra time drama of 95, but that was pretty special for a final.
23 Oct 2011, 14:52 pm
What are you All Black fans doing on here anyway??? You should all be out CELEBRATING!!!
23 Oct 2011, 14:53 pm
TO all my Kiwk\i poster friends.
Well done today. I hope that you are enjoying this moment as much as we enjoyed 1995 & 2007.
Best team in the world won today, no doubt.
Spare a thought for the French, as I thought that they were outstanding today. How come this French team can be so resilient one day, and appalling the next.
Richie McCaw – You were/are a brilliant player and Captain. You finally have your rewards. Always humble and agaon so today. Enjoy your moment, your name will go down with the Ealses, Johnsons, Smits, Pienaars as some of the greatest of their generation to lift the crown.
23 Oct 2011, 14:54 pm
This site appears to have been infested with trolls.
23 Oct 2011, 14:55 pm
@MG. It’s Tackles. Same old sorry cyberyarpie who can’t let go.
23 Oct 2011, 14:59 pm
@BULLET(BULLET)-684: Speaking about Richie, I reckon he should retire now while he’s on top, he’s definitely not as much of a force as he was a few years ago, even though he did have a good game, but as Smit can attest to its best not to overstay your welcome.
23 Oct 2011, 15:01 pm
Should have knowen. I respect the Real All Black fans. I must say, I think they are better winners than we were in 2007. No gloating, no insults, just very happy. I have learned a lot from you guys today, humble in victoty. I salute you guys.
23 Oct 2011, 15:02 pm
Cheers fellas!
Late lunch here for me in the Republic; I will be having some lovely South African lamb chops etc
All our produce = honest; whether meat, fruit and vegetables ; always honest
And no not a barbecue, it’s a BRAAI
23 Oct 2011, 15:02 pm
So lame arsse Keo has not locked the thread this year
Lets all laught at lame arrse Keo once more anyway for the 10 plus threads he locked when he could not handle losing
Can anyone come up with a more sore loser?
23 Oct 2011, 15:02 pm
Keo is a loser
23 Oct 2011, 15:04 pm
Crapp game, lame performace by us, good refereeing, Henry was ****, the All Blacks won
Really really really stoked with the win
Fork off Henry
23 Oct 2011, 15:06 pm
@BULLET(BULLET)-684:
Cheers. Agree. I hope the French No6 captain got player of the day
23 Oct 2011, 15:07 pm
I’m not ‘The Tackler’ from New Zealand. I know it may be hard for you to accept what i’m saying as truth, I never expected it to be. But as time will tell you may have to take a bite of humble pie, so to speak. Oh I am sorry, did I miss the shift key? My apologies. Well done New Zealand a game well earned.
Southern Africans smell like defecation mixed with my nana’s attempt at pikelets. (Unfortunately she’s from south effreeka)
23 Oct 2011, 15:07 pm
NZinChina, in case you are on …. some of the ABs were from outside of Auckland … how do you like that you xenophobic twatt
23 Oct 2011, 15:09 pm
Can’t believe GH threw a tri-nations for this still …. what a twatt
23 Oct 2011, 15:10 pm
@frunobulax(frunobulax)-683:
Home now … its 2:30am … I think
23 Oct 2011, 15:10 pm
Whatever you say Tackles.
23 Oct 2011, 15:11 pm
@Test(Test)-680:
Are you South African? because I could say the same for NZ …. piss of Henry
23 Oct 2011, 15:13 pm
@MG(MG)-688:
Cheers mate … we were very ordinary and very lucky …. won despite the coaches tactics
Looking forward to next season
Damn, do I have to watch the black caps in Zim now
23 Oct 2011, 15:16 pm
Thanks Bok folk, we were crappy but you have been good … cheers
23 Oct 2011, 15:17 pm
Where’s that little used up burlap sack Heavens game. I would have the up most pleasure ripping into his ignorance. Perhaps now he may realise how absolutely useless the southern africans are at oval ball. It’s actually quite sad I have to break it to him, but better now than him finding out himself.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:19 pm
Give it a rest Tackles. Have one of those “pikelets” your Saffa Ouma never heard of.
23 Oct 2011, 15:24 pm
Who here is tackles?
23 Oct 2011, 15:26 pm
T. Roal
23 Oct 2011, 15:26 pm
Well as sad as it is but the New Zealanders proved their dominance of the world. Who on this forum remembers that joke 2007? No tries in the final. South Africa is ruining the game of rugby. Degrading it to that of that barrel scraper Grid Iron. I curse South Africans. Mongrel, low class scum that I scrape out of my crack each day. Yucky humans.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:28 pm
@chch(chch)-695:
You finished 3rd, happy with that?
23 Oct 2011, 15:32 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-706:
So you curse us? You dont even know what a curse is.
The deeper concern I have about the tournament is that countries’ take-away will be that to win this thing you have to host it and cheat.
Rugby nations world wide have to accept the result but there is profound lesson here which I believe is to the detriment of the game, the fair contest.
Coaches, managers, administrators and the like would have seen how NZ went about their business. One can only hope and pray that this way does not become the blueprint going forward.
That’s how it is in life: often the cheaters get away with it… Win or lose we have to demand the fair contest.
23 Oct 2011, 15:32 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-707:
I finish 1st …. Auckland lost you xenophobic fork
Did you watch the game or were you busy with playing with small boys in China
23 Oct 2011, 15:34 pm
NZ won but NZinChina lost and is still a sick fork playing with small boys in China
23 Oct 2011, 15:36 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-708:
Listen you are really too stupid to insult.
You must excuse me though. I ate nachos with the hot chilli beans and i’m experiencing an extreme case of the curry squirts. Please excuse.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:38 pm
Congratulations NZ.
And well done to France for making this – in my view – the most memorable RWC final since 1995.
Now, let this NZ win be a hard lesson to SA.
What lesson?
From 1992 when SA re-entered international rugby until today, NZ had inexplicably failed to win the RWC whilst SA had lifted the trophy twice in that period. That record gave SA an artificial sense of their importance and strength in world rugby.
In that same period:
1. SA has seen it’s proud 50/50 record against NZ slide
2. NZ has won 10 3Ns, SA has won a paltry 3
3. NZ achieved an overall 80%+ record against all comers whilst SA underachieved with an overall 65%.
4. SA lost for the first time ever against Wales.
5. SA has seen regular defeats at the hands of Ireland, England, France and Scotland.
6. NZ regularly achieved Grand Slams in the NH whilst SA never did once.
7. There were some unspeakable results against our main rivals – 52-16 v NZ; 49-0 against Aus and 53-3 against Eng. Do you ever see NZ losing that badly?
The plain truth is that SA used its success at RWCs to cover up and hide the obvious failings in its annual results. We heard “judge me at the RWC” from our coaches… we were told losing 3N games was acceptable in “building for the RWC”. And the majority of fans bought it hook, line and sinker.
NZ just proved how wrong this belief is.
SA just lost the single trump card they held over NZ since 1995. And now what do we excuse our regular defeats to NZ and Aus (at home and away) to, and the defeats in the NH? We no longer have the “another 4 years” or “we win when it matters” excuses…
SA needs to rediscover that winning EVERY match matters and that the World Cup, whilst important to win, is not the ONLY thing that matters in rugby. Win consistently – as NZ have done in the last 4 years – and the World Cup will follow.
SA has run out of excuses. From now on, the Boks need to focus on winning every game. That starts with the 4N from next year. A record of 3 triumphs in 16 years is inexcusable. We must win a Grand Slam the next time we have the opportunity – we should beat those NH teams in our sleep (NZ do, why can’t SA?).
The new coach, whoever he is, MUST have performance clauses in his contract. There will be NO free ride to RWC 2015 and the Boks MUST get up to 80% winning level.
There is no excuse anymore.
23 Oct 2011, 15:43 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-712:
if theree is justice in SA Rugby – Meyer will bee coach.
Francee wass better sidee on the fieldd – Abs defencee came thru thoughh.
shadess of Aussie Bokss gamee
23 Oct 2011, 15:44 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-712:
Cheers Wooden Spoon.
GH did throw away a Tri-Nations for this though … cheapens the whole thing
23 Oct 2011, 15:44 pm
@chch(chch)-710:
you seem to mention little boys quite frequently, grow up son don’t show your ignorance
23 Oct 2011, 15:46 pm
World C H A M P I O N S !
23 Oct 2011, 15:47 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-713:
The French were good. Glad the French captain got MoTM.
NZinChina will be thinking this is a French anti-Auckland thing but he is just a twat.
23 Oct 2011, 15:48 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-712:
Happy with those comments; perhaps dont agree with every fact but I agree with your overall summary.
NZ will need to do one more thing though and ensure that they can field the kind of refs that we can take seriously.
It is better for me to lose 50 – 0 but see that the contest was fair.
Our shortcomings in my mind as follows:
* Lack of creative backline play
* Inability to groom/nurture creative 10′s
* Attacking players as oppose to space
* Attacking with forwards which means there is time for defence to regroup
* Supporting the ball carrier and running intelligent lines
If our next coach can address these – I’m afraid to say that I dont know of any SA coach that can address this- then we will make progress.
We have a new world champ and that is how it is; we have to accept it.
There are broader issues at play especially biased reffing which even Laurie Mains (another fantastic kiwi coach) questioned.
Or then we need to agree that going forward ‘cheating’ is the way; in other words, get the result you want no matter what.
23 Oct 2011, 15:48 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-715:
Just a matter of time before the police catch up with you. Bet you can’t come back to NZ you sick forker
23 Oct 2011, 15:49 pm
@chch(chch)-717:
think you have some growing up to do, i’m winding you up about Deans and your excusing me of molesting little boys, you should be careful what you say boy
23 Oct 2011, 15:50 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-718:
You forgot endless kicking to opposition.
This is the game that the ABs won despite GHs tactical decisions
23 Oct 2011, 15:51 pm
@chch(chch)-717:
Yess. Game of Greatt tensionn – you couldd hearr a pin drop when he scoredd thatt try!!
Frenchh aree alwayss their worsee enemiess as well!!
23 Oct 2011, 15:51 pm
@Black Panther(Black Panther)-716:
I’ll get you banned.
You’re stupid
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:53 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-720:
If you want to make up stuff then lets make up stuff you kiddy forker
We can stop this any time
I can’t believe I have to take it to this extreme for you to even think that making up crapp about someone is not good
You are such a twatt I have had to go to this extreme. I am really ashamed how forking stupid Kiwis like you are
Stop being so xenophobic and stop telling lies about people
23 Oct 2011, 15:54 pm
Well done NZ, the best team at the tournament.
I would have hoped that McCaw or Henry would at least have acknowleged how well the French played. Perhaps they did and I missed it.
23 Oct 2011, 15:55 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-722:
Uh. tension has one N. No wonder we’re having to give a dollar a day to Southern Africans. School is a outstretch for your people huh.
I wish you all the best.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:56 pm
Now New Zealand like the saffers did can completely forget about rugby for four years.
T.Roal
x
23 Oct 2011, 15:58 pm
@bokontario(bokontario)-725:
I could not hear the speeches either
23 Oct 2011, 15:58 pm
@chch(chch)-724:
you should be ashamed of yourself nancy boy go have a cry it’ll make you feel better, does mummy know your online?
23 Oct 2011, 15:59 pm
@chch(chch)-721:
Mate, the result is there. It’s official so I guess we have to accept it but ABs must be prepared to get your own medicine going forward.
That’s what you wanted and there it is.
I have highlighted your positives and stated the negatives; a very dangerous trend may have been started in the pursuit of self interests.
23 Oct 2011, 16:00 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-727:
Um what?
23 Oct 2011, 16:01 pm
@T.Roal(T.Roal)-727: scram, get out of here, shoo shoo
23 Oct 2011, 16:02 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-729:
you off to play with another little boy
fork off, we don’t need paedophiles here
23 Oct 2011, 16:05 pm
The AB’s won, if any other team wanted the Bill, they had the opportunity of winning their games and joining us in the final, if you could not win the quarter final then unfortunately, you could not be entertained by the AB’s. Losers suck it up, chew on it, it sucks, four more years my little ones!!!!!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 16:05 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-730:
What?
“but ABs must be prepared to get your own medicine going forward” .. .what?
“That’s what you wanted and there it is.” .. what? what did I want?
“a very dangerous trend may have been started in the pursuit of self interests.” .. what?
What are you on about?
You better not be parked outside
23 Oct 2011, 16:07 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-732:
Clean my bedpan, there’s an awful mess coming out of my mouth. Can’t.. stop.. it…
23 Oct 2011, 16:08 pm
The RWC is a strange affair.Throughout the tournament the French play poorly and win . On the big night they play outstandingly well and lose. Sacre Bleu!
Its taken NZ 24 years to learn how to win ugly. They have been for too long the most attractive almost team at the RWC. The only team to have never lost a pool match since its inception. finally the bounce of the ball goes their way.
Its reward for the last two years and the consistency achieved . Cheers to all the true rugby fans who acknowledge that.
SA will be back. Both teams will lose the old brigade and next year will be a fresh start for both. Australia may be the team to beat next year in the 3N and I hope Wales capitalize on their success moving forward.
For now its sweet for the NZ fans. Its been a long time coming for a nation used to their team winning everything but the ultimate prize.
There are very few countries in the world that Union is the number one unifying passion across all walks of life.
We do take it too seriously, we do get arrogant about the ABs and are terrible losers when they fail.
But when you are or have been a great union player regardless of where you are from (and I witnessed this a number of times during the RWC) and you walk the streets in New Zealand you will be recognized and acknowledged. You may even be a distant memory in your own country but in Aotearoa people will still want to seek you out and shake your hand.
That makes me prouder about NZ rugby than any AB victory.
23 Oct 2011, 16:08 pm
I don’t like this 4 more years stuff. Very childish. Only one winner so pretty **** to say that to all other sides. The WC is a bit of a lottery but we came out on top this time. 4 more years is a pretty **** thing to go on about (and yes I know that about 100 South African bloggers have gone on about it on here but lets face it those 100 were complete *****)
23 Oct 2011, 16:10 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-734:
Mate, I respect the fact that you support the ABs. Its your choice.
To me it seems like a form of self-loathing to be supporting another country above your own.
My choice again is to question South Africans who support the ABs.
ABs were outplayed today and extremely lucky to come away with the win.
By the way: Kiwis feel nothing for you, embrace your South Africanness
23 Oct 2011, 16:11 pm
#wooden spoon I agree totally I also think the world cup needs a format change. I am glad the stigma is gone now us ABS supporters can get over ourselves. World cup should be every team playing each other a true reflection of the best in the world.
23 Oct 2011, 16:12 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-737:
“Its taken NZ 24 years to learn how to win ugly.” .. but we didn’t … we won despite our tactics
23 Oct 2011, 16:12 pm
@chch(chch)-735:
So you’re doing the questions thing again, you think it is effective
I think it’s pathetic for you to fight with another kiwi here on a SA blog; it’s embarrassing actually
23 Oct 2011, 16:13 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-739:
Outplayed? I though *** was even , a lottery
23 Oct 2011, 16:13 pm
@chch(chch)-733:
I’ll be back in NZ shortly, how about we meet up and you excuse me of that in person?
23 Oct 2011, 16:13 pm
@chch(chch)-743:
though = thought
23 Oct 2011, 16:15 pm
@chch(chch)-738:
What would you have preferred?
24 more years?
23 Oct 2011, 16:17 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-739: You left in the quarters, that was it, accept it and know, know very well, you’ve four more years!!!! Chew on that.
23 Oct 2011, 16:18 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-744:
Guys – you’re supposed to celebrate tonight
You have supposedly won and now dont know what to do
Do a haka, I’d say as a start and take it from there; again it’s pathetic.
Go and jump on a bonnet
23 Oct 2011, 16:18 pm
@chch(chch)-741: 20 minutes to go NZ shut down and played defensively. It wasn’t pretty but they won. The tactic worked. It might have been lucky to succeed but the second half tactics form the coach was very clear.
23 Oct 2011, 16:19 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-742:
hehe, you have no credibility here, you supported a stalker who tracked down someone off this blog in real life. You want to discuss morality or even reality. You must be having a laugh
23 Oct 2011, 16:22 pm
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-744:
No problem but I was hoping that you would see the obvious and realise that lying about me was something you should not be doing
I will say this quite clearly … you stop making up **** about me and I will stop making up stuff about you
You will always be a xenophobic Auckland oddity but at least we can stop having these discussions
23 Oct 2011, 16:24 pm
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-747:
Our team got bryced and you support a cheating setup that wants nothing to do with you.
Craig had the opportunity to extend that 24 years to 28 years but had too much integrity.
Must say I would have loved for France to win the Cup today; it would have been a beautiful story. Dusatoir was huge nevertheless.
I would actually encourage refs going forward to cheat the ABs; they’ve set the standard now and must now adapt.
23 Oct 2011, 16:24 pm
Sherrif, I see you are quoting Laurie mains to justify your claims of a conspiracy involving bryce Lawrence.
Presumably then you will now accept Lauries claims that the ab’s were deliberately poisoned in 1995 by south African sports betting interests?
23 Oct 2011, 16:24 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-749:
but the kicking almost lost us the game 20 times over
23 Oct 2011, 16:25 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-739: I think self loathing is a bit strong. I know NZers who support the Bok. I couldn’t care less. Good on them. If thats how they enjoy their footy well good luck to them. Whats the big deal.
Good on ya Mpundulu. Glad you see your fine eye for quality.
23 Oct 2011, 16:29 pm
Chch, are you a kiwi? Are you hating on Graham Henry?
I was at the game and haven’t seen a replay, but I wonder if we kicked because the pressure of the French tackling forced us into it. Certainly the French tactic of keeping the ball in hand cut out a significant part of the aerial advantage we had over Aussie. Clever French.
23 Oct 2011, 16:31 pm
@corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-753:
There is no need to bring Mains in to justify my ‘claims’ ; I’m saying that even he questioned it, credit must go to him for taking a stand. I feel sorry for him though as he will most probably have to leave the country now.
You cannot honestly say to me that Bryce handled that game fairly.
Dont try to say he missed things for both sides; as it is not true.
I assure you that if it was not for Bryce I would have been the first to congratulate the ABs. However, he did what he did and forever we will know that World Cups going forward will not be the same again.
Host countries will increasingly look to cheat and manipulate etc just as long as they get the result. Then afterwards they plan extensive self-congratulatory parades etc and the rest are sour losers. You’ve set that standard now you will be required to live by it.
23 Oct 2011, 16:32 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-755:
Why do they do that?
(I can think of some reasons but just wondering)
23 Oct 2011, 16:32 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-755: If Piri had kicked his goals NZ would have had a t nine point buffer and things may have been different.
With a one point deficit, field position was crucial. The tactic was sound the execution wasn’t.
23 Oct 2011, 16:33 pm
‘sore losers/ sour grapes’ is what I meant …
23 Oct 2011, 16:35 pm
@corporal punishment(corporal punishment)-756:
Yes
Because I rate dignity over winning … prefer winning with dignity
We still would have been better not kicking. Our forwards were good, we should have used them more
23 Oct 2011, 16:36 pm
To all SA supporters, give the kiwis a break, their team won fair and square, they deserve the win and to have the trophy for 4 years, Yes we got truly bryced over by bryce but the fact remains the kiwis have consistently been playing better rugby than us for a while now.
23 Oct 2011, 16:38 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-755:
That’s why I said I accept it but question it.
It does not make sense.
I guess what bothers me that one could choose to support a team that wins a RWC every 24 years but only at home. You have to question the logic; it would for instance make more sense to support the Wallabies – who have won 2x RWCs
Perhaps its misguided support for the Maori and non-Pakeha peoples; well then rather support the French who has a black captain – in short it seems the support is race based which is not in line with modern standards
23 Oct 2011, 16:40 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-762:
Thanks Treehugger. I think that the next Tri-Nations is now going to be really important for all sides to win
23 Oct 2011, 16:42 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-762:
Will do but promise me that you will forever going forward never use the word ‘cheat’ again
‘Bryce’ is now an internationally accepted synonym for ‘cheat’
Use it in every day life, make it part of your vocabulary
23 Oct 2011, 16:43 pm
Just started reading the article and why does JON CARDINELLI think that 95% of New Zealanders are over 24?
Is he retarded?
23 Oct 2011, 16:54 pm
I really want to know if Ellis had a brain failure or if he was told to kick up-and-unders over and over again.
In hindsight Jimmy would have gone well today.
I would have thought that playing Cory Jayne at 10 would have been better than dropping a player into a final after missing earlier games and indeed the team in general.
Even when Cruden was injured we could have put on Ellis and moved Weepu to 10. Dagg could kick penalties.
Weepu was a good ‘fat controller’ when Carter was injured and despite being off form today served us well. The public hype must have effected him at least a little.
23 Oct 2011, 16:55 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-762:
That is the spirit
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-765:
I trust you are only taking the piss.
23 Oct 2011, 16:57 pm
@lapoftherugbygods(lapoftherugbygods)-755: The sherriff is going through the many stages of grief, this is a man who is alleged to have assisted a stalker on keo to locate one of the bloggers in real life, don’t take him earnestly, he’s a strange joke that you keep away from especially the ladies on this site!
23 Oct 2011, 17:07 pm
To all you kiwi bloggers out there congrats on winning the RWC you deserved it as you won it by a point but a point is as good as a hundred and at the end of a game the only thing that matters is the scoreboard.
23 Oct 2011, 17:09 pm
@blueboy(blueboy)-770:
Thanks
I don’t believe the scoreboard is the only thing that matters but thanks
Tri-nations next season will be huge
23 Oct 2011, 17:16 pm
@chch(chch)-771:
Aussies the early favourites perhaps?
23 Oct 2011, 17:16 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-772:
?
23 Oct 2011, 17:24 pm
@chch(chch)-773:
My reasons:
They a young team who are on the up.
Same coaching team.
Most WC winning teams struggle in the year after they won the tourney (check the history).
So, yeah, I reckon they are the early favourites.
23 Oct 2011, 17:28 pm
Dale Steyn is travelling
Where is Gunther for some cricket?
23 Oct 2011, 17:38 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-765: Bryce is used for lots of things now, like stepping in dog bryce, or bryce off or get bryced or what a bryce up go bryce yourself
We were bryced over by bryce, needs the cataracts removed from his eyes or needs a guide dog.
23 Oct 2011, 17:42 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-775: difficult pitch to get 305 especially with Shane Watson injured.
23 Oct 2011, 17:44 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-776: Bryce will not save your guppies from the mailing that’s coming to them … believe it
Oh and to all other guppies out there … Bryce you.
Yes it’s true, I used the B word.
23 Oct 2011, 17:46 pm
Good grief
WW3 has broken out here
23 Oct 2011, 17:47 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-776:
Pocock adjusted better to his rulings than at first the the overrated Brussow and later Flo and Schalk etc.
And we had about 75% of the posession/ territory etc but we could not score
And the Aussies won 6/7 of the last games against the Boks ( with or without Bryce)
So, there is lot more to blame than the poor Bryce for our defeat (s)
IMO we were just not good enough and the sooner we accept it and move on the better.
23 Oct 2011, 17:50 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-780: overrated Brussow. Stopped reading your post after the first sentence.
23 Oct 2011, 17:50 pm
@RL(RL)-778: Your Lions going to be playing on bl**dy stumps remember, you ready for a brycing thumping of note lol oops theres that B word again.
23 Oct 2011, 17:53 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-780: Over rated Brussow
23 Oct 2011, 17:54 pm
In the end it all worked out. We were second best for 60 minutes, SO WHAT! We won, and my cunning plan in the 1/4s worked out 100%. Well done!
23 Oct 2011, 17:55 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-781:
It’s a tough pitch for sure.
Re Brussow, he has done absolutely nothing ( admittedly he was injured for a while) since the Lions tour and since the refs were told to interpretate the tackle rule according to the book.
So, thats why I say he is overrated.
23 Oct 2011, 17:55 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-782:
Grrrrrrrrr, never
23 Oct 2011, 17:57 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-783:
see 785 above and tell me what has he done since the Lions tour to justify his “brilliance”
23 Oct 2011, 17:57 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-780:
**** off! I WON THE 1/4S GAME FOR THE AUSSIES! Without me the boks would have been world champs today.
23 Oct 2011, 18:00 pm
@RL(RL)-786:
Well done to you and your Lions team.
I hope the beat the Sharks next week (if U stop that brokeback mountain nonsense, lol)
23 Oct 2011, 18:03 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-789:
Thanks man … if the Lions win the CC then I promise to remove all of the dirty B words from my vocabulary, that includes Bryce and Brokebacks.
23 Oct 2011, 18:06 pm
Personally i think the french were unlucky in the final but had used up all there luck getting there, the AB’s deserve it, but were fortunate because it is not often in Sport that deserved it is good enough!
23 Oct 2011, 18:06 pm
As a proud Bok supporter I feel their’s a huge weight off my our shoulder’s after the AB win today.
We can start on a clean slate with new coach and captain. Losing can no longer be acceptable.
While we were resting those players in Rustenburg and lost to Aus and NZ away it wasn’t a big deal. We can sacrifice those “TEST” for the bigger picture.
23 Oct 2011, 18:07 pm
788.Bryce ******** Lawrence
OK.
Pity the rand is so weak or Piet Divvy and Jonny Boy would have been national heroes today?
23 Oct 2011, 18:12 pm
@RL(RL)-790:
Lol, good luck anyway- your own cappy Chabal is after all a capey- so if you win we can take some “credit’.
Fark, I am disappointed in Allister- hope he gets the bok job and farks off from WP
23 Oct 2011, 18:15 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-785: As Bok supporters we do tend to idolise our players on the basis of 1 or 2 good performance but I rate Brussow and feels he adds a different dimension to Bok loosy play. He has 3/3 against the AB’s if you include the game against the Crusaders I feel that’s a decent return.
How’s the standard of fielding today. Quite bizzare for two of the best fielding nations.
23 Oct 2011, 18:23 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-795:
Imo the jury is still out on heinrich- i am not at all disputing the claim that he has the potential to become a great-he has been a bit unlucky with injuries-I guess the fetcher flankers will always be a target- Richie took a lot of blows today as well, he was covered in blood at the end- these guys are putting their bodies on the line all the time.
Aussies are in trouble at moment- alarm bells should go soon – Warner is probably the key especially as Watson is doubtful,
23 Oct 2011, 18:33 pm
I feel the next super rugby season is massive for the Cheetahs. Jaun Smith Brussow, Johan Goosen etc are all from that franchise and they are key to our immediate success. If they do well and start competing at the top of the table we as will have a great 4 nations.
23 Oct 2011, 18:36 pm
SA to win, no doubt. 7.3 runs an over from here is not on.
23 Oct 2011, 18:39 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-793:
What are you on about??? WE WON! And I played a big roll! Take your Yarpie sour puss attitude some place else!
23 Oct 2011, 18:39 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-798: aussies have broken my heart to many times in cricket, much more than rugby so I will never write them off.
23 Oct 2011, 18:41 pm
Brawling over?
23 Oct 2011, 18:43 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-797:
i reckon Juan is finished, will probably retire quite soon.
Goosen is another story-best local talent to emerge over the last 10 years or so- the future of SA rugby imo.
If Rassie can only buy him before the Bulls or Sharks get hold of him
23 Oct 2011, 18:47 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-801:
Seems like it- Sheriff is braaing some genuine honest SA steaks now- hopefully he will only be back tomorrow with his ” sulking”, lol.
23 Oct 2011, 18:47 pm
SA v kiwi, aus v kiwi, aus v SA, kiwi v kiwi, stalkers, what next?
23 Oct 2011, 18:51 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-802: sharks still alright but not bulls. Cheetahs needs the bucks. Stormers/ WP desperately need for a good flyhalf.
23 Oct 2011, 18:54 pm
Guys, NZ won. We didn’t. Time to move on and stop the childish bickering.
Rather put all your energies into getting the Boks back up to where they belong – winning the 4N next year and competing with NZ for the No. 1 IRB ranking on an annual basis.
- which coach will best offer us that opportunity?
I for one am sick of the Bok excuses and mediocre 65% win ratios… let’s get our team to a place where we don’t need to constantly make up excuses.
Remember, the kiwis want you to fight amongst yourselves… perhaps one day when we can put all our provincial differences aside we can match NZ.
But for now, let’s make sure we make enough noise and let SARU know we will settle only for the best coach for the job.
23 Oct 2011, 18:55 pm
We won, WE WON! I helped! I’m pretty sure Joubert was got to, he made some pretty dodgy decisions letting my team of the hook. I DON’T CARE ****! In the end the plan came together and WE WON! Nevermind the most useless finalist ever (OMG for 60% of the game they were better than us), WE WON! NZ 2011 RWC CHAMPS! Never mind how we did it, WE DID IT!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 18:58 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-775:
Howzit
Steyn needs to play some cricket. He looks rusty. A few of the boys could use some supersport cricket before the tests.
I see the band hasn’t learnt any new songs
23 Oct 2011, 18:59 pm
The IRB, the NZRU, myself, and probably Craig himself (he’ll tell me over a beer at some stage), WELL DONE! The All Blacks are RWC champs just like we planned! HALLELUJAH!
23 Oct 2011, 19:00 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-805:
Gary van Aswegen is quite good, but seems to be injury proned
I am holding thumbs for him to recover and play a full season.
If they revert back to Peter Grant, they can just as well give up even before the season has started – trhe Greek is also just above average- Coleman too,
Good luck in holding on to Goosen though- he (and also Ebersohn) is top class.
23 Oct 2011, 19:02 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-803:
Calm down Rob.
All Blacks have become ultra self-absorbed in their desire to win the RWC; 60% of me actually felt sorry for them
The other 40% of me made sure that they understand that the world looks and the discerning observer sees their way
At least as they wake up their rice krispies/ corn flakes will taste sweet; they would feel the curse is over and whether you and I agree with their way, now is their chance to just enjoy the event, now that its over
Im happy for Ted and Wayne in particular eventhough Ted never acknowledges other teams’ efforts which is quite immature for a 62 yr old I think; I love it when he lifts his hands in the air when they score eventho it looks pretty uncomfortable
23 Oct 2011, 19:02 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-806:
Allez les….Kiwis !!
23 Oct 2011, 19:04 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-260: Did you actually watch the 2007 final?
Today had more kicks than 2007 and less points than any other RwC. I now understand your comments as blank ones with no real understanding of game.
23 Oct 2011, 19:04 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-806: things will change with Jurie Roux in charge of SA Rugby.
We do have a bright future. The new coach whoever he is must be welcomed from the outset by journ’s and supporters,
23 Oct 2011, 19:04 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-752:
In fairness, you must mention Bryce Lawrence as the referee who handed the B&ILs to the Boks on a plate in the 1st Test 2009!
The 2nd Test referee Christophe Berdos saw the end of his Test career after cheating in a similar manner!
Speaking of integrity,,,,
23 Oct 2011, 19:05 pm
Well done Kiwis
You all know that a one point win is good enough, but not great, enjoy the 4 years
23 Oct 2011, 19:05 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-808:
Lol, gawd, that band is the pits, they should be banned from the ground.
Boucher also seems out of touch behind the stumps- at least the pressure is on the Aussies.
We will probably sneak this one.
23 Oct 2011, 19:07 pm
I’m so happy. It all comes down to one thing: CHEATING PAYS!
23 Oct 2011, 19:07 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-802: If Province owned a tight five they will win, they do not need girls in the backline
23 Oct 2011, 19:08 pm
JL1(JL1)-813:
I only actually watched Percy in the 2007 final…..
The rest was a blurr!
23 Oct 2011, 19:08 pm
I hope Craig Joubert was paid at least half I was paid, it would only be right.
23 Oct 2011, 19:09 pm
Thanks for coming Hussey. Even Bryce won’t save you from defeat today.
23 Oct 2011, 19:11 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-822:
What???
23 Oct 2011, 19:12 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-815:
Mate I will have to look at those games again; it’s 2 years ago.
I would have loved to see a tournament with no controversy and would have been satisfied if we made it to the final and lost 40-0 but fairly.
Just like I came on here last night and congratulated the 2 John’s: Plum and Mitch for being the best coaches in the country. Mitch’s team beat us with no name brands and I gave him all the credit
Ted and Mitch the top 2 coaches in world rugby in terms of winning rate; no arguing that
My concerns have been around Petty O’Brien and Bryce Lawrence; they have developed quite a warped sense of serving your country
I loved Richie’s face when Craig penalised him…
23 Oct 2011, 19:12 pm
@carol(carol)-820: You still like Percy after all these years?
Pity you cannot make the Baabaas game?
23 Oct 2011, 19:13 pm
@JL1(JL1)-819:
Cannot disagree, its been like this for so many years, seems like a regional disease.
Pretty boys do not win rugby matches i guess.
23 Oct 2011, 19:15 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-824: This is the tainted RwC.
The lucky packet one
Where is Skop?
ABs beat Japan, Canada, and all the other no name brands
23 Oct 2011, 19:18 pm
@Jeraldjay(Jeraldjay)-822: ODI
23 Oct 2011, 19:18 pm
@JL1(JL1)-827:
And we didn’t beat the French apart from on the scoreboard. We cheated ourselves into the final. BUT SO WHAT? We are the champions, my friend (and I was an integral part of the set-up!),
23 Oct 2011, 19:19 pm
@JL1(JL1)-825:
It is terminal…..Percitis !
I cannot believe I have accepted another invitation that weekend, the Babaas reunion is guaranteed to be a laugh, are you going?
23 Oct 2011, 19:19 pm
The Frogs were not penalised for not rolling away at the tackles all night,
While McCaw was called 1st time for a hand in the ruck on the 71st minute penalty!
So much for Craig Joubert’s refereeing standards, hard to explaine how come there was no yellow card for infrigment in the rucks or offside on defence ?
23 Oct 2011, 19:19 pm
@JL1(JL1)-827:
We are NOT tainted!
23 Oct 2011, 19:20 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-826:
Percy won the WC for you, and he was your best ever ‘Pretty Boy’ !!
23 Oct 2011, 19:20 pm
@JL1(JL1)-827:
Yip, rugby WC will always be a bit of a lottery,
The real thing to determine the best team is probably then the IRB rankings.
Problem is that the AB’s are also leading that.
So maybe they are the best?
23 Oct 2011, 19:21 pm
@JL1(JL1)-827:
Skop is just steaming some vegetables!!
23 Oct 2011, 19:21 pm
@JL1(JL1)-827:
ABs first real test was France and judging from today, it seems the French did not want to win that pool game.
Then on to the quarter they had to deal with the the mighty Pumas.
Then Australia in the semis, which were pulverised by the Boks and the entire nation of New Zealand targeted Quade Cooper; that was actually quite pathetic and just about sums up so much of what we have come to expect from the kiwis
Today they were tested and somehow some way they got there; France maybe just needed a more reliable goal kicker and they would have been there
In the big scheme of things the Boks prolly deserved more to be in the final than the French
23 Oct 2011, 19:25 pm
@carol(carol)-833:
I have never disputed the fact that he is/was a pretty boy.
Nice hair and great body for sure.
But he had the ugly forwards to set winning the world cup up for him.
Bakkies and Os and those ugly blokes, lol.
23 Oct 2011, 19:30 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-837: “Nice hair and great body for sure”.
23 Oct 2011, 19:30 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-837:
Will Percy be redundant now do you suppose?
23 Oct 2011, 19:31 pm
Warner gone. Game over
23 Oct 2011, 19:31 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-838:
Robzim has 2 daughters, he understands this ‘stuff’ !!
23 Oct 2011, 19:32 pm
Mmm. I prefer them a bit more rugged.
Breed ‘em tuff in the Hutts.
23 Oct 2011, 19:34 pm
@carol(carol)-841: If you say so sister.
The line was just really funny.
23 Oct 2011, 19:34 pm
They should’ve all just left Corey to play France alone.
23 Oct 2011, 19:35 pm
@carol(carol)-835:
You mean he’s deep in thought?
23 Oct 2011, 19:36 pm
23 Oct 2011, 19:36 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-838:
I see my very good friend Carol has helped me out on this one.
Percy also had hilites in the hair long before the rest of the rugger buggers caught up.
Trendy bloke, our Percy
23 Oct 2011, 19:36 pm
Quotas cost the WP yesterday! I hope that po3s Trevor Wakefield cathes a wake up! no pun intended!
23 Oct 2011, 19:39 pm
Yassus skop had a vegan tirade here last night that made m feel guilt having my mom’s lamb chops for lunch today.
23 Oct 2011, 19:39 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-843:
Bless him, it was a tad camp!!
23 Oct 2011, 19:40 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-847: Hahaha yes I was tempted to rip you off a bit there on that line. Sounded a litlle……strange coming from a guy.
23 Oct 2011, 19:40 pm
@carol(carol)-839:
Yeah, sort of, he will probably be replaced by a blue bull ?
23 Oct 2011, 19:42 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-845:
For someone who only eats vegetables, Skop has an astonsihingly vibrant mind.
So many veggies I have met have been a bit on the pale and wan side!!
23 Oct 2011, 19:42 pm
@carol(carol)-850: Camp yes. That’s the word!
23 Oct 2011, 19:43 pm
@carol(carol)-850:
Camp?
WHAT ?????
23 Oct 2011, 19:44 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-849:
All the talk of vegetables made me long for a steak!
23 Oct 2011, 19:46 pm
I understand the idea but don’t make me feel guilty about eating meat!!!!
23 Oct 2011, 19:48 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-851:
lol, just trying to motivate Carol, lol
I am so disappointed in WP- feels like they will never win a throphy.
Even the star studded under 21′s went down- Etsebeth and all- had good hopes for them?
23 Oct 2011, 19:48 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-854:
@Robzim(Robzim)-855:
Moving swiftly on, do you suppose they are still partying in New Zealand?
Imagine every bar, drunken Kiwis doing impromptu Haka’s……
Sounds like fun actually!
23 Oct 2011, 19:48 pm
I know it’s bad for me and coffee and all the lekker stuff but I want to die happy!
23 Oct 2011, 19:50 pm
Am happy for our kiwi bloggers even though they can be a pain in the butt.
They deserve it.
23 Oct 2011, 19:52 pm
@carol(carol)-830: Yes, it should a great day out and many laughs
23 Oct 2011, 19:54 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-857:
In Britain animal welfare standards must be adhered too, access to water, shade, shelter, food and care of their health.
Must be difficult expecting that in an African country where human beings very often do not have access to those basic standards.
I understand Skop’s point of view.
23 Oct 2011, 19:55 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-861:
They do deserve it indeed. Imagine how boring this place would have been without some “alternative”inputs.
23 Oct 2011, 19:56 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-858: Yes i’m very dissapointed too, It’s almost as if the guys have a mental block when it comes to the big games.
I did post before the game that I was concerened that simply bringing in the boks wouldn’t automatically solve the problem. We saw that with the Bulls last year against a team that was used to playing well together. This Lions team is the same.
Sharks looking strong mentally though, that will stand them in good stead at Ellis Park next week.
Who are you picking?
23 Oct 2011, 20:02 pm
Keo’s Clowns SuperBru World Cup Results -
Only bloggers I know mentioned!!
1. Nils
2. HongKongSlong
7. Slatbartfast (Captain)
18. Coach Pete
21. Grant
29. Robzim
23 Oct 2011, 20:03 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-865:
The farkin Sharks will probably beat them and retain the CC.
I reckon they just have too much class and quality for the Lions – will probably shade the forward exchanges and win by 3-7 imo,in fact I am quite sure they will win.
Wont mind to be proven wrong at all.
23 Oct 2011, 20:05 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-865:
The mental aspect of the game is prolly the biggest aspect that a coach should prepare his charges.
The physical conditioning is pretty much on par at the prof level; Test rugby just that 20-30% higher intensity but then its down to the mental prep; the alertness and being switched on.
France was switched on to absorb the pressure from the ABs but somehow did not simulate it in their minds to win; somehow they could not go there and is a function of their form (not consistent)
Province has been poor over the last 10 yrs; Rassie started something but the cupboard remains empty. Why do they have so many injuries – its speaks to poor conditioning.
Allister for me too much of an optimist to really change it around; it focuses on the positives while top coaches focuses also on weaknesses of opposition.
It was interesting for instance that Mitch said after the game that Province were ‘not ready’ for certain of the things they did. Just like France was not ready for the 2 pod line out of the ABs.
It is now officially 10 yrs since Province won the Currie Cup and there is nothing to suggest that they will win it next year or the year thereafter.
I was not even disappointed as I expected that if they beat the Lions then the Sharks will beat them fairly easily.
23 Oct 2011, 20:06 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-854:
As a row of tents.
23 Oct 2011, 20:09 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-869: LOL Ja exactly.
23 Oct 2011, 20:10 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-868: Need to get a “shrink” in pronto!
23 Oct 2011, 20:12 pm
Man U 1 – Man City 6 ????
23 Oct 2011, 20:14 pm
@carol(carol)-866:
Lol, thanks for rubbing it in that I am last.
surfing is a million times better anyway
23 Oct 2011, 20:14 pm
@Lions_is_kak_kak_honde_honde_kak(suffer_guy)-872: Couldn’t make me happier lol
23 Oct 2011, 20:18 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-873:
YOu are way off last…..I am 68th out of 108 !
23 Oct 2011, 20:18 pm
@Lions_is_kak_kak_honde_honde_kak(suffer_guy)-872: I for 1 am 6 to death of all the Man U jokes……
23 Oct 2011, 20:20 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-873:
..but you are right, surfing is probably better than SuperBru…Not that I have ever surfed in my entire life!!
Wonder if that is something I should try?
23 Oct 2011, 20:23 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-871:
Problem is that the work they do really only show results after 1 year.
Unless the coach has a strong ability to deal with the mental aspects himself; the professional era is highly specialised so you need all the help you can get
I remember PdV stating before he became coach that no psychologist will ever work with his team. Not sure whether he changed his mind but a blind spot like that can have detrimental consequences.
Sport psychologists can add a lot of value to a team’s performance.
If you listen to Mitch carefully you appreciate the man’s knowledge and insight.
So then you can come with your 5 yr old cliches like ‘we did not pitch’ ‘ the guys dd not put their hands up’ etc but it’s meaningless
You are then outclassed by a smarter opponent for example who can give you clear instructions on nullifying say a Gio Aplon
It will be interesting to see how he approaches the Sharks game as these guys have brought their Springbok game (takeing up with big forwards) into the Currie Cup now. So they should get the upperhand in the 2nd half ; my guess is that Mitch will get them to spread it wide with loose trio running supporting lines
Elton Jantjies will be key in executing but he does have Butch if the occasion is too big
23 Oct 2011, 20:24 pm
Dakota Fanning sux
23 Oct 2011, 20:27 pm
@carol(carol)-877:
It takes a while
Anyway, i am glad the wc is over-both england and SA underperformed and need a new start- the flippin kiwis got 4 million people and they are wasting us on a regular basis.
At least u still have the music over there.
23 Oct 2011, 20:34 pm
Aussies are totally farked now.
Even head boy Botha (spinner wannabe) is taking wickets.
Shane would have laughed at him.
But now he has liz- so why worry.
23 Oct 2011, 20:36 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-880: Do they have political influence in the team, No
Do they have 11 union presidents, NO
Do they have anything else except rugby, maybe the sheep, but that is about it
23 Oct 2011, 20:43 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-881:
Have you seen Shane’s plastic surgery….
What is Liz turning him into? Farkit, it is scary…
Well Halloween is just round the corner!!
23 Oct 2011, 20:44 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-880:
You should really look at the number of prof rugby players per nation to make an apple for apples comparison
For eg you cannot look at 50million population of SA as only between 4 and 7 million really into rugby, anyway thats my estimation
I still maintain that our isolation years denied the country’s rugby to move with the times. Our players skills levels is what let them down esp under pressure
Ironically the 24 yrs of pain for the Kiwis made hungrier and from what I can see they have moved a good 15-20% ahead of other rugby nations; esp with coaching – no wonder they had 75% of coaches in the last 4 at RWC2011
Not sure where the ref side of things went south; prob Petty’s leadership
Gary Kirsten from what I can see can be that change agent for Cricket SA, who will that coach be for rugby?
We have to get smarter otherwise pain and more pain will be our portion
23 Oct 2011, 20:45 pm
@JL1(JL1)-882:
Yeah well, they still have Rachel Ward and the Finn Bros.
Wellington is also a cool place,. sort of laid back old time CT with a bit of a JHB heart if u know what i mean,
Dont have an idea about about Auckland but i heard its also quite cool.
23 Oct 2011, 20:46 pm
Cheers fellas
23 Oct 2011, 20:48 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-831: it was a choreographed Rig-by World Cup by Aus and NZ to ensure the best possible result for both, for once all your reffing conspiracies were wholly accurate.
23 Oct 2011, 20:51 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-887: LOL, bitterness
23 Oct 2011, 20:58 pm
Four more years, boys!
(Heh heh heh…)
23 Oct 2011, 21:00 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-885: Rachel Ward? She’s a true kangaroo, blue. I think you mean Rachel Hunter?
23 Oct 2011, 21:01 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-889:
24 yrs
24 yrs
24 yrs
That is your cycle – you will win it again in Oct 2035
23 Oct 2011, 21:04 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-891: not if it isn’t held in NZ… the only place where they can win it.
23 Oct 2011, 21:06 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-889: Look at you, piggybacking on someone else’s glory. Can’t be all that deeply satisfying.
23 Oct 2011, 21:06 pm
Kiwis be nice.
We happy for you!
23 Oct 2011, 21:15 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-890:
Hey, my mistake, i was a bit distracted, Hunter it is, Rod’s old G/F,
23 Oct 2011, 21:16 pm
The team known as All Blacks
Had skills piled up in stacks.
Steve Donald said
I’ll nail this one dead
So he drilled it to the max.
Around the world they groaned
And swore and griped and moaned.
No Carter was there
Just their fourth-best spare
But Bill the Cup was owned.
So now what’s more to say?
But cheers mate, hip-hooray.
The champs are real
So quit the squeal
This is the ABs day.
23 Oct 2011, 21:17 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-890:
Bet u longing for “kremlin under the mountain”.
Kiwis deserve it though, no complaints
23 Oct 2011, 21:21 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-896:
Around the world they groaned
And swore and griped and moaned.
No Carter was there
Just their fourth-best spare
He goes by the name of Craig Joubert.
23 Oct 2011, 21:22 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-891: Nope. ABs will win it in 2015 to be the first back-to-back winners and they’ll win it again in 2019 just for fun to complete the threepeat. By then the Boks will be the Proteas and struggling against Uganda in the qualifying rounds under an ageing coach called J. S. Malema…
Heh heh heh….
23 Oct 2011, 21:27 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-898:
A yarp ref named Joubert
Was really left quite spare.
No call to make
No game to take
From ABs dazzling flair.
So there.
23 Oct 2011, 21:28 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-806: Spot on SPOT ON BOET!!!
I was saying the same thing after the Boks crashed out of the RWC and I got called a poephol and told to shut up and that I was too stupid to comment on this blog because I was called for the next coach to have performance clauses in his contract and that 80% win ratio should be what we as fans accept.
Its unbelievable how short-sighted a lot of Bok supporters are. Hendrikp was laying into me because I said PdV was a weak kak coach and we should get a Kiwi to be the next Bok coach. He and many other were saying that Coetzee is the best option for the Boks.
If Coetzee becomes coach we will see better defence but that’s it. Our win ratio will remain at 65% or less. We will still struggle to score tries. We will pick slow wingers and unimaginative, one-dimensional centres and continue to play crash-ball, run-into-traffic, zero offload rugby. Nothing will change.
Unfortunately it seems that this will happen because I think Hoskins sold his soul to the ANC in order to keep the top job and he made assurances to them that from now on Bok coaches will be picked on transformation criteria and not on merit. To the world it looks like the ANC are transforming rugby in SA when really it is window-dressing for a lack of investment in grass-roots sports development.
Only children with money can afford to play rugby. That is why the rate of transformation is so slow.
Saru is run by a bunch of souless, money-grabbing autocrats who are prepared to sacrifice SA’s rugby reputation in order to get rich and fat off ANC hand-outs.
23 Oct 2011, 21:31 pm
Craig Joubert definitely helped Richie and Ted overcome one more famous choke which was STARING them in the face.. if this WC was not tainted by setup ref’s you can rest assured France would have won today (SA time) yesterday (NZ time)
Go check it again.. late into second half and Frenchies were ALL over AB’s like a f’ng blanketed rash and AB’s were goeing wal like NEVER before
French went through 15 or 18 phases on the halfway line busting through some tackles with Harinorduquey, Dusetoir and Bonnaire making Richie, Read and Kaino there proverbial biatches until Joubert came through and saved the day.
On minute 74 France came storming through about 35 mts out, and AB’s sealed off and lay all over the breakdown ball off their feet and sprawled gasping for all they were worth.. right there was a penalty if ever there was a moment of panic stations hitting the entire rugby world seeing AB’s go down to Les Bleus once again when it mattered most.. and Craig Joubert didn’t have the balls to pull out his penny whistle and blow the right call…
That would have been the ball game and the WC in its glory.. and Joubert goeied wal alongside Richie, Kaino, Whitelock, Thorn and Read for all he was worth.. because France would have nailed that last nail through AB’s last hope coffin like never before..
Go check it again.. from minute 40-80 it was ALL France and not a glimmer of an AB hope with Rougerie and Mermoz repeatedly making Nonu and Smith look like kindergarten playmates in the midfield and Traille owning Dagg with Trinh Duc and Yachvili cleaning up Weepu, Ellis and Donald Cluck…
If ever there was an IRB miracle conspiracy shoring up the hopes of a nation for evermore.. this was IT.. and everyone close enough to the action know it.. Till Lievermont had one more of his brain implosions by replacing Yachvili with a debutante rookie scrummy with less than 5 to go and one more time Rougerie bust through Smith and Nonu with AB’s sprawled in defensive disarray and the rookie scrummy providing AB’s with the lat turnover that sealed France’s inevitable setup fate..
23 Oct 2011, 21:33 pm
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-899:
Meid, your adopted country nearly did not get there in the end
And this is a side that lost to Tonga; they made you look ordinary – that’s for sure
You must have loved that stunt France did while Piri was pulling weird faces and closing his eyes; by the time he opened it he probably thought they’re coming for him
23 Oct 2011, 21:34 pm
The next Bok coach to be
Will prob’ly be Coetzee
He has no clue
Of what to do
They’ll be as weak as tea.
23 Oct 2011, 21:34 pm
It’s not all about coaching, 80% of winning consistently at test level is looking after your best players so they are able to take the field in every test. Until SA manage sort that they’ll never be as consistent as NZ and will be relying on the odd good year or big WC performance. NZ have all that off-field structure sorted, they rarely field a weakened team.
23 Oct 2011, 21:37 pm
Craig Joubert was the hero of the day he also avoided blowing a blatant high tackle by Donald on Mermoz earlier in the one sided French dominant half and allowed AB’s to seal and slow French ball refusing to blow the daylight rule at the breakdown just like Bryce before him…
IRB done their homework well to assure an AB eventual relief from the blessed choke because it was DEFINITELY ON.. the choke was visible right before everybody’s eyes.. only CJ couldn’t bring himself to bring it on with far too much national psychological disorder staring the poor NZ folk in the eye…
23 Oct 2011, 21:38 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-903:
There’s no such thing as nearly
The ABs won quite clearly
For 4 more years
You’ll shed those tears
We’ve got the cup you want dearly.
23 Oct 2011, 21:42 pm
Jirre these rhymes.
UuUuuuurrrgh
23 Oct 2011, 21:44 pm
The yarpies blame Joubert
A week back, Filet Rare
The best on earth
Since virg’nal birth
But now he’s dog-food fare.
23 Oct 2011, 21:47 pm
if EVER the once rampant AB’s were fckd up absolutely solid for an entire 40 minutes of rugby last night was the night in the WC final on their home turf in front of their own baying praying hoping gnashing fans and calling on every last ounce of reserved faith that the rugby gods and the bought ref wouldn’t put it into them again… AB’s were absolutely and totally dominated by a French outfit that simply OWNED them all 80 minutes long in that one sided French dominated second half…
shades of 99 and 07 all over again.. only difference was this time they had the ref inside their back pocket and the sentiment for a loss was just THAT too far over the precipice for even a so called professional ref from blowing them over the last hope cliff and into the abyss of despair forever…
23 Oct 2011, 21:47 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-902: the stakes were high for them at this WC skop, NZ and Oz are both in the red financially, they’re hemorrhaging test players to Euro clubs and spectator/viewer interest in the sport is dying both nations. The RWC 2007 was a disaster for the coffers, another blow like that would have left their rugby in a perilous state. SA were sacrificed for Oz and France for NZ, to keep their heads above water, it is what it is.
Regarding the NZ team, we expect better due to their consistency between WCs and the style with which they play but I just don’t think they have three big WC knockout performances in them. It’s been the story of the past 24 years and if that match today took place anywhere but NZ they would’ve lost. That is the closest WC winning margin on record. I suspect we may not see another NZ WC win until they host it at home again (if ever).
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-909: enough already, nobody wants to hear their grandfather rap
23 Oct 2011, 21:47 pm
As I said on the other thread – for what it’s worth – a huge congratulations to the AB’s, all of NZ and the Kiwi fans that frequent this site. Enjoy gentlemen (and ladies?) – 4 years worth of World Champions’ bragging rights…
23 Oct 2011, 21:53 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-910:
OWNED them all 40 minutes long in that one sided French dominated second half…
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-909: you were saved a virg’nal rebirth boyo you wouldn’t know where the fck to put your head if Craig Joubert didn’t save your soft underbelly from being exposed again…
France OWNED the BA’s for 40 whole minutes not a glimmer of an AB hope was there after the Dusutoir try and AB’s were coming apart at the seams…
at 74th minute it was OVER and Joubert REFUSED to blow the law and hand the game to France which was ABSOLUTELY DUE..
Joubert saved yours and your entire nations sorry arses and had it not been the case I reckon the state of mourning would simply have been too heavy even for those with shoulders broad enough to carry whimpering cry babies like you for another 24 years and the rest…
23 Oct 2011, 22:01 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-911:
It reads like a soapy setup all over the IRB mogul makers palace
This was not an even handed unbiased WC it was a setup and it is pretty easy to spot it even for those who are hoping that rugby cannot be tainted by the money manipulated brush… and I’m not crying about SA because the way we went about our selection policies and strategic planning we didn’t deserve to win this thing this time either…
But last night (NZ time) France deserved the victory and they were in fact the deserving champs… however the sentiment and perhaps the financial implications (heaven forbid it ever gets disclosed) was such that IRB simply could have it no other way with NZ hosting the tournament and the ailing aching psyches that would simply drown beneath the south pacific ocean if the gods and the powers that be would have ruled it absolutely justly and dispassionately…
23 Oct 2011, 22:11 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-913:
What a powerful man you are. The size of that chip you carry around would make most men cringe.
France played brilliantly, and I doubt another team anywhere on the planet would have held them out as the AB’s did last night.
23 Oct 2011, 22:15 pm
keep complaining about set ups Skop.
haven’t we heard over the years that defense wins WCs?
just because your SA side weerent good enough to get past the 1/4 final it’s suddenly a brought WC.
that’s an excuse that tops Susie any day.
23 Oct 2011, 22:20 pm
Evening kiwis!
23 Oct 2011, 22:20 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-914: we like to believe rugby is untainted as it’s the sport we follow but I’m not sure any professional sport is left untouched from behind the scenes horse-trading.
I hope the NZ supporters enjoy the win, the All Blacks really are part of their national identity and you felt it has satisfied a deep emotional need to finally win it again. But at the same time France have never won it and on that performance as clearly the better team they deserved to, the 24 years goes on for them and amid the AB euphoria that they weren’t given a fair crack of the whip just doesn’t sit well.
23 Oct 2011, 22:20 pm
Look foward to the next four years.
A RWC Champion team that actually can demonstrate why they deserve the title.
23 Oct 2011, 22:20 pm
so its official to win the world cup you need to get knocked out in the quarters the tournament before
99 oz 95 quarters
03 eng 99 quarters
07 sa 03 quarters
11 AB 07 quarters
Strange but true, does that mean it takes more than 4 years to build a world cup winning team, or that long to save up enough money to……….
23 Oct 2011, 22:22 pm
@Brads(Brads)-915: nope you the one with a chip
AB’s were willed to win this one by more than just the players on the field.. and the entire rugby world heaved a sigh of relief at the final whistle but if anyone is honest you will see any other ref on any other occasion and French would have won this game outright.. Joubert saved AB’s an absolutely ignominious defeat in the WC final at their own fortress Eden Park on the day it mattered to a nation most.
23 Oct 2011, 22:22 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-918: i don’t think the all balcks were lucky , the french were just unlucky, not to mention kicks win games, god knows the kiwis missed enough to be out of sight
23 Oct 2011, 22:24 pm
this world cup will be remembered by one and all(except new zealand) as the WORSED reefed cup ever!!
23 Oct 2011, 22:24 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-910:
Yes, NZ is always one step ahead of SA. At Boardroom level we take you to the cleaners, then use your generous relief funding to pay off your refs. Thankyou SA without you we couldnt have done it. Thankyou to Europe and Japan also for setting up NZ Rugby Rugby Super Annuation Fund. I suppose when you are the Best, everyone wants to be your friend.
23 Oct 2011, 22:24 pm
Good morning Dawn.
Its 9.23am here, I have just climbed out of the sack after a very peaceful nights sleep.
Aided in no small measure be a draft or twenty
23 Oct 2011, 22:26 pm
@All Blacks – World Champions for A4Ys(poppa69)-916: It was a setup.. and got nothing to do with SA who did not deserve to win this time…
But on the night France beat you hands down and Joubert refused to blow the law when it ACTUALLY counted after 14 or 15 phases when France were prying you apart and you were sealing off and playing hands in ruck and lying all over the French ball in front of your posts 35 mts out Joubert refused to blow AB’s out of the game that would have sent a ricochet of anxiety through the NZ nation and the entire rugby world like never before
The difficult call was shelved and the WC went the way it was desired and designed to go all along…
23 Oct 2011, 22:26 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-924: Remember the old adage, ‘when your right you can afford to be generous” Be humble, you look a lot nicer as a winner when humble!
23 Oct 2011, 22:27 pm
As Boy Louw — a famously stoical down-to-earth yarpie once said…
LOOKS AT THE SCOREBOARD.
Yeah, pilgrims — excellent advice!
World Champions = New Zealand.
#1 ranked IRB test team = New Zealand.
Winner of the most 3Ns = NZ
Winner of the most Super Rugby titles = NZ
Winner of the most Sevens titles = NZ
Top rugby nation on earth = ………… no prizes for guessing!
Hahahaha!
Four more years, boys!
23 Oct 2011, 22:30 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-921:
Stop it.
NZ won, yes it was a relief, I will acknowledge that.
But this was not a set up. this was not the final page of a convoluted deep seated conspiracy.
Craig Joubert made some calls last night against the AB’s that gob smacked me at the time, but I moved on and had forgotten then within a minute or so of them happening.
Had we lost, I would not have blamed anyone but ourselves, but I don’t accept for one second the result was a fix up.
23 Oct 2011, 22:32 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-911: I think the All Blacks showed great heart in this game. They did battle in the second half and with their goal kicking (if they had kicked better the game would have been won by half time) but defended well and proved they can win when things are not going according to plan unlike NZ teams in the past. Winning three tough knockout games in a row is tough for any team. We nearly blew it against Fiji in 2007 and even battled for awhile against an average England side in the final. The pressure on NZ in this World Cup was massive and they would not be human if some of it did not get to them. I think now that they have the WC ****** off their backs they will be very tough to beat in future tournaments. The boks are going to have to choose wisely when selecting a coach or we are going to fall behind.
23 Oct 2011, 22:36 pm
Well, 22h35 pm here, school night, bedtime.
Public holiday in kiwiland today?
23 Oct 2011, 22:36 pm
@surreyshark4(surreyshark4)-927:
Woosh
23 Oct 2011, 22:37 pm
at 43 minutes France stop AB incursion at 35 mts and get blown for hands in ruch.. Donald put them 8-0 up
Fast forward to late second half around 74 minutes after insurmountable French multi phased attack and France bust into AB territory.. same offence.. AB’s seal off.. hands in ruck and Joubert refuses to blow AB’s out the game.. because right there it was tickets and AB’s would have been left ruing another close shave choking loss to their Nemesis.. but this time where it mattered most right at home where the blood and guts would have spilled on the Auckland streets at another demeaning defeat where the costs were just that little bit too far beyond the scope of the hopeless hopes had it to come about…
23 Oct 2011, 22:40 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-931:
Yes it is. Labour Day.
Maybe they should change it to Relief Day
23 Oct 2011, 22:41 pm
@malcolm(malcolm)-930: there were two teams playing though Malc, France showed a lot of heart too, written off and insulted by everyone, even by their own crazy coach, they took the criticism, united and played NZ away from home in their own WC lost by a single point (and they missed penalties too) dominating possession and territory. It was a close game and unfortunately the chief deciding factor was the man with the whistle.
23 Oct 2011, 22:42 pm
AB Day
23 Oct 2011, 22:43 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-926:
“beat”
please explain ?
23 Oct 2011, 22:46 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-936:
I like it.
23 Oct 2011, 22:46 pm
@surreyshark4(surreyshark4)-923: Worsed reefed?
The hard-aground MV Rena, wrecked on the Astrolabe Reef 20 miles off the Tauranga coast, is worse-reefed.
23 Oct 2011, 22:50 pm
Grammar nazi
23 Oct 2011, 22:50 pm
All Blacks World Champions! No one cares how, so long as we win, when you Japies played at homeyou cheated like never before so i find it bold of you idiots to be calling it a setup! We won, we deserved it, we are the best team in the world and the boks are below average!
23 Oct 2011, 22:54 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-935: The French played very well. I had a feeling with the way they faced the haka that this was going to be a big French performance. Where I disagree is that the ref was the deciding factor. I think Joubert had a very solid game. He did make a few mistakes but on both sides. If anyone looks at any game from only one perspective you will always be able to pick up mistakes to justify ones view about any ref.
23 Oct 2011, 22:54 pm
@chch(chch)-771:
Mary Mary
Quite contrary
23 Oct 2011, 22:54 pm
the history books will say NZ won
that’s all that matters. those continually complaining about the ref are poor losers. end of.
23 Oct 2011, 22:56 pm
well done All Blacks. mission accomplished.
now maybe you’ll be able to kick on and win one away from home….
23 Oct 2011, 22:56 pm
@malcolm(malcolm)-942: tell it to the French and the various journalists who will report on it in the coming days, there is little doubt the ref was a factor:
The France scrum-half, Dimitri Yachvili, had no such qualms. “The referee was under a lot of pressure,” he said. “He did not want us to win.
Anyhow, good talking to you all and well done to NZ enjoy the win, they don’t come around that often.
23 Oct 2011, 23:03 pm
a suggestion to all kiwi’s on here today – if you want to enjoy this victory you’re in the wrong place. entering into mindless arguments on this blog is just plain silly. get out there and enjoy it.
the only reason you’d be on this blog is to gloat, and you’re in the wrong place to get hearty congratulations – think back to 2007 and the way you reacted to how the Boks won and you’ll remember how much it hurts to lose. go enjoy the sunshine and read your own media. see you for the s15 next year!
23 Oct 2011, 23:08 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-918:
just coz the french had one good game in the comp does not mean they deserved to win it. sure they were marginally better on the night, the ABs looked fatigued in the second half and nearly choked, but they were the best team in the competition and consistently the best team in the world. of course the ABs deserved their victory. it would have been a travesty had france actually won.
congrats ABs. a loss last night would be beyond contemplation! we’d have a nation in mourning.
I am just stoked the french pitched and made a match of it! a game worthy of being a final.
23 Oct 2011, 23:10 pm
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-947:
I don’t see too many people gloating.
I see a few desperate folk who are struggling to come to terms with losing their choker jibe to wind up AB supporters.
23 Oct 2011, 23:16 pm
836 If France did not want to win in the pool stages surely that amounts to match fixing and downright cheating as well as disrespecting the tournament. Don’t you find it strange, you trying to be fair and speaking on their behalf about the supposed “injustices”. I could list instances were ABs had dubious decisions against them
23 Oct 2011, 23:33 pm
set UP…anyway you wanna look at it that’s what it is.. Rugby is one game that is easily controlled and manipulated by the man with the whistle and where outcomes are easily and sometimes surreptitiously influenced to go the way of pressurized sentiment.
These people, these refs are human and they cannot dissociate their inner or outwardly applied preferences or pressures from their decision making, and Joubert as reasonable a ref as he may be succumbed to those pressures when he was faced with them like most others will.
AB’s are/were the darlings of the rugby world and IRB hierarchy more so than France.. So France became the convenient sacrificial lambs at the alter of NZRU and IRB stakeholders desires and wishes at the cutting edge of the fine knife edge between prestige and failure.
France were due a couple penalties through the last 15. Minutes when AB’s were scrambling for all they were worth to save their last prevailing hope. The stay of execution was granted by the man with the whistle who saw them home to the relief and perhaps even the overall sentiment that over the long term AB’s are/were the deserving champions.
But on the night they weren’t,.. France were.
23 Oct 2011, 23:36 pm
@NZMaori(NZMaori)-941: You are a bigot. How dare you use such racist language. I would love to meet you and teach you some manners.
23 Oct 2011, 23:41 pm
lets just say justice is served for 2007 debacle
23 Oct 2011, 23:49 pm
@Schalk is Pote Fouries daughter(richardmarais)-952: Whateva Schalk, you can just stay in that 3rd world country of yours without the world cup! ALL BLACKS CHAMPS
24 Oct 2011, 00:04 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-926:
skopskiet – please stoip embarrasing yourself and other SA supporters. you’re worse than that ex-saffa tackler. go rant at the wall or something. ABs were the best team at the tournie and if France had won after losing twice and getting past Wales on luck alone it would have been a travesty and a real joke.
Reffing always plays a part – but you cant doubt that the best team actually won it this time!!! (albeit at home again….:) )
24 Oct 2011, 00:08 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-947:
Munki, you are so far from the truth here.
For me this is the only rugby blog i go to and post my interesting views on this great game.
Its for your own good that i do this
I mean come on, Keo with out Hurricane, can you imagine?
24 Oct 2011, 00:13 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-951:
lol.
On the night France lost.
There have been so many games where the team with the better stats have lost.
Thing is that does not mean they played the better game.
Teams with most possesion and most territory stats and still lose mean they either played badly or actually were beaten by a better team.
The ref thing that you and rest of your bunnies are on it about is really sickening.
Refs make mistakes,live with it. we had to in 2007 when we were told to shutup and stop moaning.
24 Oct 2011, 00:21 am
why is it okay to constantly use the term jarpie? please stop doing it, its very rude. thank you.
24 Oct 2011, 00:22 am
@chch(chch)-696:
Disgusting.
Fukn grow up man.
I cant believe you are still blaming Henry for taking the job in 2007 and was appointed over Deans who will lets say a somewhat average test record. GH was and still is the better coach.
He didnt throw the 3 nations like you think. A true Kiwi would never think like this.
I live in Christchurch and i know how one eyed this province is, you have taken it one step further.
24 Oct 2011, 00:23 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-958:
Is it?
Tell me why, this is a honest question.
24 Oct 2011, 00:33 am
Congratulations to all in New Zealand. Not the greatest final, but still is the greatest feeling. You did your nation proud. Enjoy this, you are champions of the world for 4 years, and well deserved too.
To all the French, great game, and also did your country proud.
And a great RWC too. Nice New Zealand.
24 Oct 2011, 00:34 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-960:
“the term yarpie is very rude”.
CHOKER ain’t exactly complimenty either is it!
8)
24 Oct 2011, 00:34 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-960: because regardless of origin it’s a derogatory term used almost exclusively in a demeaning fashion, i guess?
24 Oct 2011, 00:34 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-739:
You are a real piece of work
I am proud to have other people from all over the world in different countries supporting the ABs.
You have no right at all to suggest we dont care about those people. In your case you were the ones that didnt care and turned you back on most of the South African people and now you want them to back the Boks??
24 Oct 2011, 00:35 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-956: I could not, and I love that you and the Panther, and all are on here. Wish there were more Kiwis and Aussies, and poms and Irish and Scots and and and.
That would be great.
24 Oct 2011, 00:36 am
@cane(cane)-962: our cricket players are chokers too, the choker tag does not discriminate between race or nationality. actually your chaps are no longer chokers technically, congrats!
24 Oct 2011, 00:37 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-963: I see more choker, convict, sheepshagger than Jarpie. But hey it’s not that big a deal is it?
24 Oct 2011, 00:38 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-966:
8)
24 Oct 2011, 00:39 am
@cane(cane)-962:
lol
24 Oct 2011, 00:39 am
A blogger called, er, Munki Boy
Was grumpily chucking his toy.
As Kiwis prevail
And poor Yarpies trail
Fate sucked out all of his joy.
In oh-seven’s gold days of yore
The Boks fluked the easiest draw.
No Aussies to beat
No ABs to defeat
Die bekertjie’s ours boys, for shore!
So, while they did mock and deride
A patently superior side
For four years they’d scoff
And expect that cough
From Kiwis who’d choke and subside.
But now that the champion’s throne
Belongs to the All Blacks alone
The best they can do
Is “blame the ref, boo!”
And strike up a whiny old tone.
So Tack’s now your laureate poet
And Keo, Ry and Jon they all know it.
They really should pay
For such verse, no delay
Here is a fine chance, don’t you blow it!
(See, pilgrims? You’re learning some verse as I grow it!)
24 Oct 2011, 00:39 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-967: i don’t think it’s nice for people to call people convicts or sheepshagger either, but in the grand scheme of things you are right, it’s not a big deal.
24 Oct 2011, 00:42 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-971: I am just waiting to see what the next numbskull move SARU make. We need a big clean out at every level of rugby in South Africa.
24 Oct 2011, 00:44 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-972: ya me too, i’m just praying that they surprise us all and make some inspired appointments across the board, but i’m not exactly holding my breath. you do you think should get the Bok coach position?
24 Oct 2011, 00:44 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-965:
Soda, thanks mate.
I really enjoy the thoughts and ideas of others. I wont join a Kiwi blog as tell you the truth,its not me. Its interesting to see what the opposition ( u know what i mean ) think of the game.
If i never joined Keo, i would be so blind to South African rugby, which would be a shame. Something i glad i have never missed out on.
Banter is great and it can get serious but thats the passion of Bok rugby.
24 Oct 2011, 00:45 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-971:
I shall refrain from ever using that word again.
But some of you Okes do make it very difficult for us to be gracious on here fantas.
Very difficult indeed.
8)
24 Oct 2011, 00:46 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-973: I would like John Mitchell, Nick Mallet or Shaun Edwards. Someone that is out of the skop & charge old boys club.
Rassie?
I don’t think we have any great coaches in SA actually.
24 Oct 2011, 00:47 am
Ok good night everyone time for supper.
24 Oct 2011, 00:47 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-955:
since when do I offer to suck up to screwball pseudo saffa arseholes like you
poor schmuck you dunno who the fck you wanna be.. like Tackler you halfway across the ocean and halfway across the sea ..
France DOMINATED AB’s and deserved the win.. blatant as can be…
So you wanna argue that they only pitched for the one game in the final and not the pools so hence they don’t deserve it and AB’s deserve to win it overall because they the host nation and you living on their welfare and their generosity.. just like Tackler.. don’t mean the rest of us have to be blind arse schmucks the likes of you…
On the night France were the better team and AB’s were baled out of a loss by the Saffa ref who got done by his own conscience when the tough call of blowing the infringements at the breakdown came with less than 10 to go.. which would have sealed AB’s fate one more dismal doubting date and never again to free their sorrow for ever and ever amen…
Better you bow down profusely to Craig Joubert who did the kiwi nation proud by seeing them home when their backs were to the wall… Gold watch would actually be insignificant a reward.. much bigger stakes than that were the order of the call..
24 Oct 2011, 00:47 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-974:
I see chch was ranting against Henry again.
Poor Guy.
8)
24 Oct 2011, 00:49 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-977:
Good night Joe.
Have a good one.
24 Oct 2011, 00:50 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-972:
I am glad this RWC focus is all over with and i hope SA and its management take on the views that the RWC is not the main mission here.
Main mission is to be the best in the world, the RWC is a tournament that comes with a label, world champs.This does not mean the worlds best team.
Worlds best team wins most the games in between RWCs.Its a fact.
*** the RWC, get that Bok pride back.
24 Oct 2011, 00:52 am
@The Chokerman – formerly cane(cane)-975: i fully understand and know exactly what you mean… you’ve seen what this place looks like around Currie Cup season, can get real messy.
24 Oct 2011, 00:53 am
@SodaJoe(SodaJoe)-976: i would agree… Rassie might be a good choice, along with your other choices. but we do struggle with coaching talent it seems.
24 Oct 2011, 00:53 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-978:
Easy Skoppie, easy.
I hope they give Joubert the Keys to Auckland City.
The Keys to the Reserve Bank.
The Keys to The White House, ( An Auckland Brothel).
And any other Keys he might fancy.
8)
And a gold watch if he wants one.
24 Oct 2011, 00:54 am
Henry ain’t a very good coach .. he got carried by Richie and co. same way PdV got carried by Smit and Matfield.. AB’s got better coaches in the offing and they nearly blew it a 5th time… or was that the 6th time and counting?
24 Oct 2011, 00:56 am
Pray, why doth TheTack now converse
In metrical, off-the-cuff verse?
A man who can scan
Compose, rhyme and plan
Oh, a foe who is infinitely worse!
A crude jibe, thrust fiercest at quest
But glances off his tungsten chest.
You have to be smart
For even to start
If skill deserts you, you are pressed.
(a4y pilgrims….)
24 Oct 2011, 00:57 am
@The Chokerman – formerly cane(cane)-979:
Yeah, even after GH has made history, CHCH still has a crack at him.
What i find disturbing i think in the back of the CHCH brain he actually hoped this team failed.
And to think GH threw a 3 nations title is stupid.
24 Oct 2011, 00:57 am
@The Chokerman – formerly cane(cane)-984: he deserves the lot.. he saved your entire nation at least 4 years of insurmountable psychiatric hospital bills and psychoanalysis calls across the board..
not to mention the rest of the NZRU and IRB remuneration packages tied up in small pockets full of silver handed under the table indiscriminately…
24 Oct 2011, 00:58 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-985:
“nearly blew it…..”
We didn’t nearly blow it Skoppie.
France nearly won it. They were magnifique.
Just shows what motivation and commitment can do for a Team.
24 Oct 2011, 00:58 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-981: in a way i think us winning the RWC on the first try has actually done more harm than good… from that moment onwards we just seemed to use the world cup to justify sub-par performances over long periods of time, and in the process the Boks have reached some historical lows. as you rightly said, bring back the Bok pride, give the ABs some company at the top…
24 Oct 2011, 01:00 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-987:
He has been getting a little over the top with NZinChina as well.
24 Oct 2011, 01:02 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-985:
So you think PDV would have got the same winning percentage as GH did with the ABs?
GH is a good coach. He would not have made 8 years in the job other wise.
What coaches have proven in NZ that they are better than GH?
International rugby is a step up for coaching and playing.
24 Oct 2011, 01:05 am
@The Chokerman – formerly cane(cane)-991:
Yeah, i think CHCH had a skin full of beer and jumped on this site for a fight
Nzinchina is always up for it as well, no love lost between those two
24 Oct 2011, 01:06 am
anyway the big picture suggests AB’s deserved their long awaited victory… ‘overall’
hail be to the rugby gods on high that with the help of a few cheating ref’s they got to fulfill the long awaited dream where the moniker of monkeyville can be finally laid to rest… and all rugby playing nations can now heave a sigh of relief that the glory be all and end all of rugby idolatry status can move on and play the game with less sword of Damocles repercussions hanging over their heads…
its like the curse has finally been broken and the precious precious can get tossed into the depths of the pacific ocean never to be weighed around a fawning nations neck ever again
Now rugby can simply be played for the joy and sorrow of winning or losing like it was meant to be from the source of its inception .. for the sake of fun and frivolity and not for this anguish of insurmountable expectation against failure weighing everyone DOWN…
24 Oct 2011, 01:09 am
Anyway,
Goodnight to all you Okes in SA.
And to my fellow Countymen. Have a good one.
8)
24 Oct 2011, 01:10 am
.@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-985:
Must be bedtime for you. Why do you hate the All Blacks so much? Because they are so good? Face it man, they have the best win record against every nation. SA will rise again, be patient.
24 Oct 2011, 01:15 am
@The Chokerman – formerly cane(cane)-995:
And we well, boy its great looking at the front page of the news paper this morning
Cya Cane
24 Oct 2011, 01:16 am
Henry is OK but he got his quirks and weaknesses and blind spots like them all..
he definitely got baled out another demeaning loss last night .. but then that is rugby WC history for you.. it is never cut in stone.. seems it is like a benevolent fund that gets topped up and distributed by some invisible hand of generosity against the run of play… almost like the unseen unsung heroism gets rewarded not for the obvious immediate recognition of equal and level playing fields.. but for some other sideways momentum through factors outside of the immediate reciprocating eye for eye and tooth for tooth justified cause…
24 Oct 2011, 01:21 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-994:
Insurmountable Expectations is that not thou own abilities to achieve beyond a flaccid state.
24 Oct 2011, 01:22 am
@amused(amused)-996: you got it all arse about face like most.. I don’t hate All Blacks same as I don’t hate anyone really.. I just see results for what they are.. some even.. and others not.. some deserved and others set up…
AB’s got lucky but then some will say they earned their luck .. thats about how the little fickle cake of lucky packet charms do crumble around the place where those that deserve to win at times don’t and those that don’t deserve to do…
You gotta become a little bit philosophical and pragmatic around these type events because they are mostly ruled by factors outside of the immediate happenings on the ground within those finite 4 white lines…
24 Oct 2011, 01:23 am
and with that I get the famous 1000th post.. must be my lucky night.. just like AB’s I got lucky tonight too…
24 Oct 2011, 01:25 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1001:
lol, no your not that lucky skop
24 Oct 2011, 01:29 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1001: who would be your top candidate for the Bok coach position Skop?
24 Oct 2011, 01:32 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-1002: night night Hurricane.. enjoy your lucky win it don’t come around that often like once in every 24 years.. thats quite some cycle to negotiate.. I doubt I still be living and breathing on this planet next time the precious lucky packet gets passed around again…
so enjoy it and praise the rugby gods on high.. they delivered this time around and next time they may not be as generous again..
night night.. time I baled and hit the hay.. see ya around .. sometime.
overall AB’s deserve to be crowned official champs this time.. when they been unofficial champs most the other times through the unlucky lean years where the shining precious remained outa reach cause it simply weren’t due then… so long….
24 Oct 2011, 01:35 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-1003: whoever it is he’s already chosen.. and I doubt he be my first choice.. so seeing its quite out my hands I won’t be gnashing teeth and baying for blood quite as vociferously as before, because I reckon the country gotta try grow any which way it knows how.. even though it may not be the way I would prefer for it to go or grow.. its gonna have to try grow any old how…
24 Oct 2011, 01:43 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-1003:
I would go with someone out of left field like Paul Treu and surround him with well accredited professional assistants and specialists who know their stuff and build a winning all round game formula and bust away from this conservative mold we been tied to for far too long through Streauli, White, and PdV who was tied up within the JW coaching manual of conservatism through his unholy alliance with Smit and co…
Time to break free and go for gold on every front not only once out of every 4 years .. time to take Bok rugby back to where it supposed to be up there where winning was a culture at every turn and every test and running the ball was uppermost in gaining supremacy across the advantage line..
Treu, Du Plessis, and Proudfoot or Mitchell as the 3 coaches with perhaps Venter or Meyer or Erasmus as technical management consultant
24 Oct 2011, 01:47 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1006: Treu has coached Sevens — it’s as unlike real rugby as what tennis is. You pass to someone else and run like the wind — that’s all there is to it. Might as well get Retief Goosen to coach then.
24 Oct 2011, 01:50 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1006: i like this idea. i also like the fact that many of us on here all seem to agree that we need to put this World Cup fixation behind us and focus on consistency and restoring Bok rugby back to the formidable force it once was. the JW blueprint was all about producing a RWC result, and most of us are fed up with this wasteful ideology. to get us to break this mould we would need someone different (like Treu as you mentioned) with a strong backup team. i am really hopeful for the future, we have the talent but we just need some strong guidance, i just hope the bigwigs at SARU can do our talent justice and make the right choices.
24 Oct 2011, 01:56 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-1007: rugby head coach is more about player management and insight and less about direct technical input and ability which should come from the specialists assisting…
Treu has enough common rugby knowledge and sense to know who to pick where to pick them and how to gel a winning combo together as long as he has highly qualified and astute assistants pulling for the same cause…
So I ain’t phased about his lack of 15 man game expertise.. I’m more concerned with his personal player management abilities and his winning psychological character which I believe he has in spades.. and that counts for more than the technical input which he can gain and glean from well chosen assistants surrounding his head coaching portfolio…
Even I could coach successfully with the correct surrounding structures and that is with very limited technical know-how or input.. head coach in modern setups is far more about overall broad picture perspective and strategy and ability to recognize strengths and weaknesses and steer an overall course, and less about technical analysis and detail which is best left to those employed for their specific specialist input which is what they should be directly accountable for
24 Oct 2011, 02:01 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-1008:
Yeah me too.. fresh new ideas and fresh new brave decision making with far less conservative fear should be the way to go.. get rid of this pathetic fear of failure at WC’s its a misnomer that should be put into its perspective of the lucky packet Russian roulette type setup it actually is and build a winning performance based strategy across the entire spectrum of Bok rugby through every phase and every test.. WC’s actually spoil the rest of the tenure because of this inane desire to be king of the heap once in 4 years and bugger the rest of the time..
anyway best I be out now its late enough here ..
24 Oct 2011, 02:17 am
Thierry Dusautoir
Julien Bonnaire
Imanol Harinordoquy
The Bestt in the Worldd – The bestt looseforwardd combination I havee seen.
24 Oct 2011, 02:31 am
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-1011: McCaw, Reid, Kaino.
24 Oct 2011, 02:37 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1009: Player management? Then hire a good senior nursing sister from Bara Hospital. A rugby coach must have a proven ability to SUCCESSFULLY coach 15 man rugby, not the 7-man ping-pong faux variant. See how Treu will do in charge of Griquas, Boland or WP and how he fares against serious 15-man heavy-hitters like Mitchell, Meyer and Plumtree.
24 Oct 2011, 02:41 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1009: Gordon Tietjens has run rings around Treu as a Sevens coach and developer of talent. And Tietch has a huge raft of world titles to prove it. Yet he’s not deemed fit to even be head-coach of a Super 15 team!
24 Oct 2011, 02:45 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-1012:
that frenchh combination were the best inn the knockout phases. McCaw and co weree outplayedd, outjumpedd by the frogss. Great Respectt t this shown by factt player of match went t playerr from losing sidee.
Harinordoquy wass immersee in the lineout – one of the bestt lineou exponentss I havee ever seen. Equall of Matfieldd.
24 Oct 2011, 03:12 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-1006: PDV was kinda left field. Actually more like another field another field all together. Le’s get a decent coach that has the experience.
24 Oct 2011, 03:34 am
Congrats to the All Blacks and all their supporters on the win, now go and enjoy the moment!