Reason to smile
7 Nov 2011
Schalk Burger, the 2011 SA Player of the Year, should be the cornerstone of the Springbok side in 2012 and beyond.
Burger, who first played for the Boks in a 2003 World Cup match against Georgia, enjoyed an outstanding tournament in New Zealand, exhibiting the same abrasive energy that marked him as a 20-year-old debutant. He also made use of the experience he’s accumulated over 60-plus Tests, as well as some recently acquired skills, to leave a lasting impression.
The next Bok coach will face the challenge of building a new team and a new leadership group. Burger is certain to be one of the pillars, if not a strong candidate for the captaincy itself. Some tough decisions will need to be made by the coach, and the ageing veterans may need to make way for the promising youngsters, but a clever man-manager will realise that Burger is the kind of player he can build his new team around.
Also in the new issue of SA Rugby magazine, on sale this week:
– We analyse the Springboks’ World Cup campaign and rate all the players
– Why the Springboks must adapt their game plan in order to achieve consistent success
– Richie McCaw has a phenomenal playing record, but McCaw the player is even more impressive
– All Blacks coach Graham Henry has found peace at last
– We review all 48 matches of the 2011 World Cup
– The minnows made progress at the recent World Cup despite an unfair playing field
– Jon Cardinelli chronicles some of the World Cup adventures enjoyed by the SA Rugby magazine team during a seven-week sojourn to New Zealand’s rugby-mad North Island
– The SA U18 Sevens’ success at the Commonwealth Youth Games bodes well for the 2016 Olympic Games
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791 Comments
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7 Nov 2011, 10:41 am
129@stormersboy…but of course
has nothing 2 do with the way he plays, his enthusiasm and being respected as a player and nice guy.
7 Nov 2011, 10:41 am
Why does the captain have to be around for the next 4 years?
What happened to focusing on winning the next game?
Select the player who best suits the role from the current squad, that year!
In 2012, it’s Juan Smith… or Schalk Burger.
In 2013 we can see if they’re still up for it, and if not, look elsewhere.
7 Nov 2011, 10:42 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-141:
JdV???????????????????? Are you serious??
Must be either a 1- Joke or a 2- new way for you to show us that you are out of your deppth here.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was a joke. Not a funny one, but at least you’re trying.
7 Nov 2011, 10:44 am
35 of you believe Divvy should aply for the bok job.
We are going to track you down and slash your tires.
7 Nov 2011, 10:44 am
@ufo(ufo)-146:
supporting namibia.
watching miss world and athletics on SABC 3…..
7 Nov 2011, 10:45 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-152:
I think we should avoid icking a captain that will not last 4 years, even if he is only captain for the first year.
The last thing we want is to give power to a player that will have to be dropped 2 years down the line.
7 Nov 2011, 10:46 am
can’t pick burger because in your opinion he doesn’t command a starting place…
but punt JdV who doesn’t either…?
hypocrisy anyone…?
i don’t mind who the next coach or captain is… as long as both are judged by the same criteria used to judge every other candidate for the positions…
7 Nov 2011, 10:46 am
@Helen(Helen)-153:
But he’s such a respected player. Punched his captain in the face.
This after he threatened to press charges against Rua Tipoki for punching him in a game.
Much as I like JdV as a player, what he’s been portrayed as is a joker. Can’t take much seriously, and obviously doesn’t have much between the ears.
7 Nov 2011, 10:46 am
Proven has-beens, chokers, old timers, schmucks and fat boys who should never ever wear the Bok jersey again.
From the WP
Burger
Habana
Aplon
JDV
From the Bulls
Steyn
FdP
Spies
Bakkies
Potties
Greyling
Kruger
Aikona
vd Merwe
Stegmann
Kirchner
Basson
The Guppies
Odwa
JPP
Kankowski
Daniel
McCleod
Hargreaves
Bosman
Joubert
7 Nov 2011, 10:47 am
What do you get when you combine Grant and Poop?
fARK ……. SORRY CAPS
4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!
7 Nov 2011, 10:47 am
@Helen(Helen)-156:
What we need is to stop focusing on the World Cup until it’s actually time for the World Cup.
Forget about building a squad for 4 years from now.
Build a squad that can try win each time the Boks get together.
7 Nov 2011, 10:47 am
@Gunther(gunther)-155:
hehehe…
and reruns of the jerry springer show…!!
7 Nov 2011, 10:48 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-133: I would never go for Burger as captain, he’s cocked up often enough at the Stormers and has never really grown into the job as on field leader. He was the boks best player at the world cup by some distance, out performing a lot of good players on the biggest of stages and you want to drop him in favour of a couple of Currie cup boys? Seriously no! The buzz around the guys mentioned will die down very quickly when they play Super 15.
7 Nov 2011, 10:49 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-161:
amen brother…
praise the rugby gods…!!
7 Nov 2011, 10:49 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-159:
Man you talk s**t.
Win one watered-down Currie Cup with home-ground advantage being secured when sides are full-strength, and all of a sudden everyone else is useless.
7 Nov 2011, 10:50 am
Head Coach: Nick Mallet
Forwards Coach: Matt Proudfoot
Backs Coach: Paul Treu
Technical Analyst: Brendan Venter
Defense Coach: Jacque Nienaber
Kicking Coach: Percy Montgomery
Visual/Skills Coach: Cheryl Calder
15.) Jaco Taute
14.) JP Pietersen
13.) Jacque Fourie
12.) Frans Steyn
11.) Lwazi Movovo
10.) Pat Lambie
9.) Francois Hougaard
8.) Schalk Burger
7.) Juan Smit (c)
6.) Heinrich Brussouw
5.) Andries Bekker
4.) Flip van der Merwe
3.) Jannie du Plessis
2.) Bismarck du Plessis
1.) Beast Mtwaria
16.) Chilliboy Rallepelle
17.) CJ van der Linde
18.) Gerhard Mostert
19.) Willem Alberts
20.) Jano Vermaak
21.) Elton Jantjies
22.) Juan de Jongh
I have a feeling we’ll be back next year.
7 Nov 2011, 10:50 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-161:
Agree, but you can not get away from the fact that rugby has transformed itself into a game with a 4 year cycle.
Coaches, captains and players make decisions based on this fact.
Let’s not have any dead wood around by 2013 and make sure our senior players and leaders are all able to finish this cycle.
7 Nov 2011, 10:51 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-163:
You ask any Stormers player the secret behind their win against the Blues in Auckland.
They’ll reply that Schalk took charge of that locker room at half-time. Gave one of the greatest motivational speeches you could ask for.
Then came out and scored the match-winning try.
For me it’s Juan, but Schalk would do a good job if asked.
7 Nov 2011, 10:53 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-165: shutup you wannabee kiwi. I watched those players in action every week and I can assure you they are all kak … there are better players to replace every last has-been.
You would know that too if you actually watched SA rugby teams.
7 Nov 2011, 10:53 am
@RugbyStudent(RugbyStudent)-166:
I (somewhat) agree with your choices, but you seem to be forgetting that having 3 non-white starters does not relate to progression. I think a min of 4 players of colour will be the new “unwritten” rule for the next 4 years, especially since we’ll probably have a white coach again and the pressure will return at some point….
7 Nov 2011, 10:53 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-159: Its amazing what a trophy can do to some peoples sanity! Think you’ll be able to finish higher then the Rebels on the overall super 15 log this year?
7 Nov 2011, 10:54 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-149:
we dont need foreigners.
heyneke meyer will lead us to glory.
something in my heart tells me this will happen.
7 Nov 2011, 10:55 am
Why on earth would some call 4 Bissie as captain
What has he done 2 show that he can lead on the field, maybe it was that petulant temper tantrum when he was replaced that every one saw on tv, Bissie must just play rugby.
7 Nov 2011, 10:55 am
@Jeez(Jeez)-150:
You usually find a coach picks his captain with long term goals in mind. Captain is the coach’s extension on the field – their relationship is crucial.
@Helen(Helen)-145:
Yup, pretty much how I have it too.
7 Nov 2011, 10:56 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-168:
One speech doth not maketh a captain.
If that were the case, I am sure Rory Kockott, Gary Botha and Stefan Terblache should stand a chance
7 Nov 2011, 10:56 am
@Helen(Helen)-170:
There will be no such expectations.
SARU seems to have adopted the approach of the best playing for the Springboks, and finally trying to sort out transformation at lower levels first.
7 Nov 2011, 10:56 am
Well at least we now know PDV won’t be coach as SA Rugby confirmed as much.
7 Nov 2011, 10:57 am
@RugbyStudent(RugbyStudent)-166: 14, 8 and 4 are no good.
7 Nov 2011, 10:58 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-169:
Oh dear. Not even going to bother with you.
Pretty much the entire Bulls team that still made those Lions look silly in the Super 15 are all k@k. Hmmm.
Oh well. All we need is for the Super 15 to start. That will shut you up.
7 Nov 2011, 10:58 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-169:
You left out Butch for some reason. Other than him, your Lions cupboard is rather bare of Boks.
7 Nov 2011, 10:58 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-177:
good news…
7 Nov 2011, 10:59 am
@Helen(Helen)-175:
Hardly my point.
Schalk is a respected player. He leads by example.
All this talk about his decision making on the field not being good is complete rubbish.
7 Nov 2011, 10:59 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-177: It’s a start…..:)
7 Nov 2011, 10:59 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-168: I have now doubts that he’s a pretty inspirational person, but as a shrewd tactical decision maker, no. Also his handling of referees is appalling.
7 Nov 2011, 10:59 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-171: you know I will have no problem choking you with your own slong … give me a reason why any of those has-beens deserve to play test rugby.
7 Nov 2011, 11:00 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-151: Sure…. That too
7 Nov 2011, 11:01 am
Now that Divvy is out of the running, it might open the door for Jerome Paarwater?
I hear he’s itching to get back at the highest level
7 Nov 2011, 11:01 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-177:
I had to laugh.
They wasted no time in nipping him in the bud.
Knertzies all round.
7 Nov 2011, 11:02 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-185:
Choking on your own shlong??
surely that’s illegal in HK?
7 Nov 2011, 11:03 am
@hendrikp(hendrikp)-168: hmmmm,
should have made that speech more in the semi’s and finals when his team really needed his “so- called” leadership……
instead he lost his head… imo..
pity. Good guy and hard as nails.
but not a captain. Imo.
7 Nov 2011, 11:03 am
@David(David)-180: I left out the Lions and FS Boks for surev … just got tired typing all those names.
7 Nov 2011, 11:03 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-185: They don’t but they are the only team capable of denying you the woodenspoon, the trophy you’re more accustomed to winning!
7 Nov 2011, 11:04 am
Just getting this out there…
Brussow
7 Nov 2011, 11:07 am
@RedMan(RedMan)-193:
Glad we got that out there…
Sadly, I only have 4 words for you.
No Ways!
7 Nov 2011, 11:09 am
Grant10 punting the Bismark.
Laughable
Hotheads the both of them
7 Nov 2011, 11:09 am
@Staal(Staal)-190:
I’d agree he shouldn’t be first-choice captain, but he’d be a heck of a lot better then some of the names being thrown around.
If anything I think Schalk functions better without the captaincy. Let him focus on doing what he does, which is getting around the field making lots of tackles and holding the ball up in contact.
Just infuriates me reading things about him being over the hill and so forth. What complete rubbish.
7 Nov 2011, 11:10 am
@Helen(Helen)-189: I think purr my kitties is confusing Bangkok with Hong Kong! However, anything goes in a lot of Asia.
7 Nov 2011, 11:11 am
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-185:
are you choking him cos its long enough to wrap around or are you going to rip it off and shove it down his throat?
:lol
:@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-184:
hear, hear…
7 Nov 2011, 11:11 am
Then I have to hear that the Stormers are s**t because they couldn’t win come the Super Rugby play-offs.
Bulls & Lions couldn’t even make it!
Lions would’ve finished dead last again were it not for the new team, the Rebels. Yet here we have @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-178: running his mouth. What a farkwit.
7 Nov 2011, 11:11 am
Schalk Burger is a useless captain who has only returned LOSSES.. Same as that pathetic self centered schmuckarse palooka Smit who you all were baying and hailing as your f’ng defunct savior who when push came to shove could do absolutely fckall about returning ANOTHER dismal LOSS.. As he has continually done the past 2 whole years .. Smit fckdup the Boks without ANY shadow of any doubt and you imbeciles hail him for that fckup same as you hail Burger as the useless palooka losing captain he is..
JDV unlike what this moronic madame bullshit artist here thinks is light years ahead of Burger in the captaincy credibility dept by some huge distance and has PROVED as much
There will be new potential captains showing up hands in the new seasons coming. Burger don’t even make my team at 6 or 7 or 8 so how anyone wanna select him as captain for next two or more years ONLY shows what LACK of rugby relevant brains they have occupying their defunct deluded skulls.!
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