Carstens seals move to Stormers

Carstens seals move to Stormers

9 Nov 2011

Springboks prop Deon Carstens has signed for the Stormers.

Carstens, who currently plays for Saracens in England, was confirmed as a prop replacement for CJ van der Linde, who has moved to the Lions. Carstens’ positional versatility (he can pack down at loosehead and tighthead) is said to have been the most appealing attribute for the Cape franchise.

Mark McCall, Saracens’ Director of Rugby, said the arrangement is a result of ‘partnership’ between WP and Sarries. ‘Any partnership must work both ways,’ McCall said. ‘The Stormers urgently need a top class international loosehead prop for the forthcoming Super Rugby season, the move makes sense for the player and so we have agreed to the release.

Despite a knee injury that will keep the promising JC Kritzinger out until early 2013, the Stormers are relatively well stocked at prop. Brok Harris and Wicus Blaauw provide the experience, while youngsters like Steven Kitshoff and Frans Malherbe are rated highly at the franchise. Carstens’ mentorship will be a boon for the latter.

Carstens, who played for the Sharks before taking up the deal with Saracens, made his Bok debut in 2002 and has been capped nine times since.


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  • 1.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:40 am

    Prop Dragon!

  • 2.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:42 am

    The experience of Carstens along with the youth of Kitschoff and the unit Malherbe backing up their seniors from this past season… seems Rassie has his finger on the pulse after all…

  • 3.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:44 am

    So is he considered a poor man’s CJ? Either way a good buy for the Stormers, this after Rassie said he was not going to buy tight forwards.

  • 4.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:47 am

    are rated highly at the franchise

    just asking.. how good must you be to be highly rated at the Stormers franchise… specialy a forward? :lol:

  • 5.Michael: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:49 am

    @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-3: CJ didn’t fit in with the Stormers. He did poorly for us. Deon is a better buy; he is a stronger scrummager.

    Good luck to CJ with you guys. I don’t rate him highly but good luck to him.

    I don’t trust many media quotes of coaches, politicians etc. They are usually taken out of context.

    The news will please Speedo no end :-)

  • 6.Michael: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:49 am

    @Staal(Staal)-4: Easy. To be better than a SharkieVarkie forward :-)

  • 7.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:51 am

    The trend is to have a fatty on the bench that can cover both prop positions, the Lions have CJ and Buys, the Cheetahs have Coenie and the Stormers have Carstens. The guppies have the journey man van Staden … who do the Bullies have?

  • 8.Michael: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:52 am

    @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-7: Maybe they’ll try converting another flan, oh say Steggies :-)

  • 9.BULLET: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:53 am

    Once again Stormers management showing signs of slight stupidity with their front row signings.
    I would be tempted to buy a prop who is strong and has dominated in his career. Not another journeyman

  • 10.Stiff-arm: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:54 am

    Very versatile prop: rubbish on both sides of the scrum.

  • 11.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:54 am

    @Michael(mikeybrass)-6: :lol:

  • 12.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:55 am

    @Michael(mikeybrass)-8: steggies at prop? :lol: he’ll be murdered!

  • 13.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:57 am

    @BULLET(BULLET)-9: well he has been playing in the league know to be a prop school, maybe he has improved his scrum work. :wink:

    or maybe not.

  • 14.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:57 am

    @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-3: I agree….a poor mans CJ a pretty apt description.

    Carstens a better 1 than 3…..

    We need another harrdebaard 3 imo.

    Maybe a WP Nel….

  • 15.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 08:58 am

    @Staal(Staal)-4: taunt on my man….

    taunt on….

    we see who laughs last…

  • 16.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:01 am

    @grant10(grant10)-15: while we are on the subject of taunting…

    have you placed your order of the poster of Captain Barney @ beeld.com/Vermaak/Nuus/Bestel-jou-rugbyheld-20111101-2

    Sierieaaaaasly – you take this blog to sierieaaaaaaas.

  • 17.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:04 am

    @Staal(Staal)-16: LOL

    I am playing the fool with you mate…..we have a light 5….but I reckon Rassie gaan n paar meer spelers onthul!

    Plods photo…..I will spoeg op die ****** ding!

  • 18.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:05 am

    Deon Carstens?

    Why were Sarries happy to let him go?

    You have to ask.

    I’m glad the talent spotters at the stormers don’t pick stocks for a living.

  • 19.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:05 am

    @grant10(grant10)-17: :lol:

  • 20.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:09 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-18: Carstens played at 1 on Sunday for Sarries….

    Played 7 won 7…

    Plod yet to play

    a 21 year old pom starting in his place

    ek se maar vokkalll

  • 21.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:10 am

    Stormers made a farken huge mistake letting F Louw go……

    Huge….

    We should really have retained him at all costs….that is a special player…..could of captained Stormers as well…..imo

  • 22.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:11 am

    @grant10(grant10)-20:

    awesome.

    so why are they letting him go?

    everytime you open your north and south you say vokkalll.

    so nothing new there.

  • 23.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:12 am

    @grant10(grant10)-21: with you on that.

  • 24.WOLFMAN21: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:17 am

    @grant10(grant10)-21: I would imagine that any recruiting done by the Stormers would have to be from Europe, as the majority of players in South Africa have already signed contracts for next year.

    You have some talented youngsters coming through, but it might be a year too early for a lot of them.

    Who will replace Louw on the open side?

  • 25.Jeez: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:19 am

    Its a pity WP couldnt hold on to CJ. It seems that he is getting back to his best.But Carstens probably much better than those other 2 fat boys.

    And its a pity they resigned Habana for 3 years!! Does that mean when AC becomes bok coach that Habana will be a bok for the next 3 years ????

  • 26.ufo: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:21 am

    we need the back up and personally i rate carstens better than CJ…

    so… i’m happy with this buy…

    brok’s good at 3… carstens at 1 will give us a solid front row…

    now if andries and rhynardt are fit, we will be okay… just ‘okay’… we still need a couple of good locks and props for depth…

  • 27.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:22 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-22: go do a pilates class man!

    I am off to a 11 am and then off to newlands….

    Weather a bit kak….

    Hope we play Tahir and not the great turner Harris…..

    Plod remains a d oooosssss

  • 28.ufo: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:22 am

    @grant10(grant10)-21:

    agree with you on this…

    when captains were being speculated on after watson left… i said here my pick would’ve been flo…

  • 29.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:23 am

    @WOLFMAN21(WOLFMAN21)-24: we have Rohan Kitshoff…a very good opensider…..

    I am scared AC will play Schalk there…..that will be a criminal mistake.

  • 30.Staal: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:24 am

    @ufo(ufo)-26: to be honest…

    imo there is good enough players…..and they have been there for the last 3 years.

    Wp/Stormers need Rassie to coach and they will win silverware! imo

  • 31.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:24 am

    @Jeez(Jeez)-25: I agree….I would have kept CJ….watch him shine under Mitchell…

    I heard CJ never really enjoyed the coaching set up at wp….

  • 32.John Galt: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:25 am

    Actually a good signing for the Stormers.

    I think his out and out scrummaging skills would have improved over in the UK. His work in the tight loose was always very good at the Sharks.

    Considering there are very few top class 3s in the country, having a player of this versatility going into a S15 is a huge asset to the Stormers.
    Especially when depth is absolutely key in the extended competition.

    Stormpies, dont look a gift horse in the mouth. This is a good move for you okes.

  • 33.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:27 am

    @Jeez(Jeez)-25: Mitch will drop any player who does not give 100%. He is old school and will not take kak from any player.

  • 34.ufo: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:28 am

    @Staal(Staal)-30:

    staal bud…

    i do agree with you that the fault of the weak scrums is more a coaching fault than a player fault…

  • 35.Stiff-arm: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:32 am

    @grant10(grant10)-29: Heard that province did not renew Pieter Louw’s contract, anyone know if this is true. If so, Stormers have a massive problem contesting the breakdown, certainly, as seems the case, Burger remain at openside

  • 36.Brigadier Van Zyl: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:33 am

    have never rated deon carstens.

    pretty sure not franchise front row will be kakking themselves at the sight of the stormers.

    man o man, that wikus blaauw oke…if he scrummed half as hard as he looks he’d be a legend.

    unfortunately…he looks like he’s got “ugly poodle” syndrome.

  • 37.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:33 am

    @ufo(ufo)-28: ja

    I had heard we believed Brussow was a done deal…..

    Now we left up the creek….hope Rohan shapes…

  • 38.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:36 am

    @grant10(grant10)-27:

    take just tennis for a walk first.

    otherwise he’s going to kak on white leather sofa.

  • 39.capebull: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:36 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-18: Maybe cause Sarries now have a new prop a certain Mr Smit

  • 40.ufo: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:37 am

    @grant10(grant10)-37:

    i think rohan is an excellent player… very similar to heinrich in build, centre-of-gravity etc…

    he had excellent stats for the WC too… IF we play him… he will do well…

  • 41.capebull: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:38 am

    @John Galt(John Galt)-32: So why let CJ go , he did the same as Carstens, difference he actually played well for Lions

  • 42.capebull: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:39 am

    @grant10(grant10)-37: Brussouw will join WP when he’s 30 , he’s to young now.

  • 43.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:40 am

    @John Galt(John Galt)-32: i agree!

  • 44.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:43 am

    its raining at newlands.

    fok.

  • 45.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:45 am

    @Stiff-arm(Stiff-arm)-35: not renewed….and conrad jantjies off to France…..

    To be =honest I never really rated P Louw….a hard honest player but not a true opensider imo

  • 46.capebull: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:46 am

    Interesting, how Strompies always had the policy to buy old players , with experience to help youngster come through.

    Habanna, AJ ,Carstens, Chris Jack, Nkalavuki, van Zyl …….

    Has this policy worked ?

    If you look at throphy cabinet …..no

    If you look at membership of golf for seniors …yes

  • 47.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:48 am

    @Gunther(gunther)-38: we under the oaks….

  • 48.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:50 am

    @ufo(ufo)-40: i also rate him….agree@capebull(capebull)-41: cj wanted to go…fact…he never settled

  • 49.grant10: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:52 am

    @capebull(capebull)-42: LOL@Gunther(gunther)-44: bat or bowl?

  • 50.capebull: Reply to this comment
    9 Nov 2011, 09:52 am

    Wp have a lot of talent at 6/7/ and 8

    Carr, Kolisi ……

    All provinces actually are good in these positions .

    Number 3 is problem area

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