Former Bok flank murdered
14 Nov 2011
Solly Tyibilika was shot and killed in Cape Town on Saturday night.
The news broke via Twitter on Sunday that the 32-year-old Tyibilika had been murdered on Saturday. Supersport commentator Kaunda Ntunja said on his Twitter account: ‘Makhaya Jack [a former SARU player and currently a Supersport commentator] has just come from Sollys home in PE and he has confirmed…Solly Tyibilika has passed away.’
It has now been confirmed that Tyibilika was shot at a tavern in the Cape Town township of Gugulethu. Police confirmed a shooting but had not formally identified the victim on Saturday night.
A witness from the scene told the Daily Voice: ‘This was not a robbery because they left all the other patrons alive and killed him – there was no conversation, they just shot him. And Solly clearly didn’t expect it because he didn’t show any sign of fear while sitting there.’
A number of coaches and players have expressed their sadness on social networking sites, and Saru has also released a statement lamenting the loss of an important player.
‘Solly was a trailblazer among black African Springboks and if the reports are correct, to lose him so suddenly and in this brutal manner is very distressing. The casual disregard for life in our society is shocking,’ said Regan Hoskins, president of Saru.
‘His emergence was a demonstration of what can be achieved when talent is combined with opportunity in what is always a very competitive position in Springbok rugby. I remember a very talented player and an immensely likeable young man who rose far and fast to become a Springbok early in his career.’
Tyibilika played eight games for his country, the last of which was as far back as 2006. He struggled to play regularly at Super Rugby level after that, and was until recently coaching the U19A side at Cape Town club Hamiltons.
268 Comments
13 Nov 2011, 18:33 pm
WOW !!
RIP Solly !!
13 Nov 2011, 18:37 pm
wtf!!
condolences….tragic ! 32….bloody hell
13 Nov 2011, 18:41 pm
RIP Solly Tybilika
Never had a bad game in a green jumper.
Condolensces to his family.
Crime affects all South Africans…32 tragic
13 Nov 2011, 18:48 pm
Real sad.
RIP Solly thanks for all you did for SA Rugby.
13 Nov 2011, 19:01 pm
Noone is safe from the crime in South Africa… 32 is much to young to die.
R.I.P Solly and thanks for what you did for South African rugby.
13 Nov 2011, 19:04 pm
Go well, Solly
One particular, bone-jarring hit on Clyde Rathbone makes me smille every time I think about it.
RIP
13 Nov 2011, 19:11 pm
Shocking and sad. Rest in peace SollyT
13 Nov 2011, 19:16 pm
Many condolences to Solly’s family.
13 Nov 2011, 19:22 pm
So sad! Condolences to the Tybilika family and friends. RIP mate.
13 Nov 2011, 19:26 pm
Tragic shocking news. RIP Solly.
13 Nov 2011, 19:33 pm
Absolutely tragic.
Condolences to the family.
RIP Solly.
13 Nov 2011, 19:36 pm
sorry to hear Solly Tiyabalika you were a great player that never really got given the prospect to shine on
13 Nov 2011, 19:37 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-3: Crime does affect all South Africans Mshini. This is tragic. Solly was only 32. Life was only beginning for him really. Terrible to read this kinda thing happening in our beautiful country.
13 Nov 2011, 19:39 pm
Condolences to Solly’s family and friends…
13 Nov 2011, 19:48 pm
RIP Peter Roebuck.
Tragic news as well.
13 Nov 2011, 19:51 pm
So sad, condolences to Solly’s family, this is not right and time the Govt put a stop to this hiddious crime
Solly to me was a fine rugby player, i never once saw him play a bad test in the green and gold
13 Nov 2011, 19:51 pm
lala ngoxolo sollyt
a career cut short is one thing but a life is too much…
see u next lifetime mjita.
13 Nov 2011, 19:54 pm
i am posting a new report onj the thread below this re matfield and jake white in bad times etc
didnt wanna put it on this thread, for those that are interested
13 Nov 2011, 21:04 pm
@Rhys7(Rhys7)-5: That’s right, especially if one is in Nyanga.
It is a pity when anyone’s life is taken so violently
RIP and thoughts to his family.
13 Nov 2011, 21:12 pm
crazy bladdy place. condolences to the family.
13 Nov 2011, 21:24 pm
Tragic and shocking.
13 Nov 2011, 21:46 pm
An awful loss and a stark reminder of the society we live in. Rest in Peace Solly.
13 Nov 2011, 21:58 pm
RIP Solly.
There’s been a number of previous comments on Keo castigating him about his history at the Lions. Most of them were so far from the truth and based on the same prejudice that drove him away. All he wanted was to play the game he loved.
13 Nov 2011, 22:07 pm
Tragic. RIP Solly.
And may the perpetrators face the full weight of justice. Life is far too cheap in Africa.
13 Nov 2011, 22:08 pm
Someone said it earlier, he never had a bad game in the green and gold.
13 Nov 2011, 22:10 pm
RIP Solly.
I always had affection for Solly, represented the boks proudly and with big heart.
Peace.
13 Nov 2011, 22:22 pm
Times like these make you understand that the feelings we have towards players’on field performances are really irrelevent in the bigger scheme of things.
We get so worked up about 15 guys chasing after an egg shaped ball, but what does it really matter when life itself is at stake?
We really take sport far too seriously.
That said, tomorrow I will be back at it again, bursting a blood vessel at the latest “BIG” rugby story.
When rugby really is no more important than the latest play station game you engaged in over the weekend.
Perspective is the important thing, I guess.
13 Nov 2011, 22:29 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-27:
At last, you’re living up to the honesty of your nic.
Seriously, though, Solly was one of the most maligned and ridiculed players on this blog as a “quota” selection. Now that he’s dead, it’s a different story. The hypocrisy really sickens me.
13 Nov 2011, 22:29 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-3: What a waste. DO PEOPLE NOT VALUE LIFE, THIS REALLY MAKES ME SAD
You are absolutely right he never had a bad game for the Boks
RIP Solly
13 Nov 2011, 22:31 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-27: Tac I always pictured you as being more concerned in the latest pipe designs than playstation games.
More khaki kortbroek, stoep en pyp than PS groupie, you surprise me.
13 Nov 2011, 22:32 pm
@David(David)-28:
“Seriously, though, Solly was one of the most maligned and ridiculed players on this blog as a “quota” selection. Now that he’s dead, it’s a different story. The hypocrisy really sickens me.”
Jeez.
Sounds like you have a major chip issue.
13 Nov 2011, 22:33 pm
@David(David)-28: David his play or form has nothing to do with with his life
The fact that these bloggers can all distinguish between sport and real life is a bonus, is it not.I do not recall anyone wishing him ill, so where do you think lies the hypocrisy?
13 Nov 2011, 22:34 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-30:
This is not the thread for personal jibes. A man is dead.
Since you asked, no, I don’t own a playstation. But the comparison remains apt.
13 Nov 2011, 22:35 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-31: Sure does sound like it
13 Nov 2011, 22:42 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-33: yes, you and I have both said our piece.
I’m more Xbox than PS, personally.
13 Nov 2011, 22:42 pm
Very sad news. Condolences to his family and friends. Was a very popular guy at the Shark tank for a number of years.
RIP
13 Nov 2011, 22:51 pm
Peter Roebuck died after falling from his hotel window. He was earlier questioned by police regarding alleged sexual misconduct.
13 Nov 2011, 22:53 pm
Sincere condolensces to Solly’s family.
What a tragedy but sadly not a total shock in a country where random violence, murder and rape is all too common.
Solly you stepped up admirably when Schalk was injured and you can be proud of your performances in the green and gold. Your try against Scotland at Murryfield stands out for me.
Life is so fragile.
RIP Solly
13 Nov 2011, 22:53 pm
@JL1(JL1)-32:
No, the bloggers do not distinguish between his play and death. They attacked and belittled him personally as a player, without knowing the facts about his experience at the Lions, yet now claim that he was a committed Springbok.
His death is tragic, but his treatment when alive is just as bad.
13 Nov 2011, 23:22 pm
@David(David)-39: horseshyte.
14 Nov 2011, 00:15 am
What dreadful and absolutely appalling news! And how derisorily cheap life seems to be in some places? Condolences to his loved ones.
14 Nov 2011, 00:50 am
this is too sad!!
14 Nov 2011, 02:15 am
@David(David)-39:
Better wait for some police report concerned the circumstances of the murder before compiling obituaries and pointing fingers
14 Nov 2011, 06:16 am
RIP Solly. Way too much violence in this world.
14 Nov 2011, 06:34 am
Bless you, Solly. Only the good die young. Watch over us.
14 Nov 2011, 06:53 am
Sad news for me on a monday morning.
RIP Solly, and condolences to everyone who new him personally.
14 Nov 2011, 06:57 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-41:
yes its sad, and my condolences go out to his loved ones, but perhaps no more nor less cheap a cost as jade bayliss’ life? that she was only 13 makes it feel, to me, a little more tragic. so yes, you are right, how derisorily cheap life seems to be in some places?.. tragic, just tragic…my condolences to her loved ones.
14 Nov 2011, 07:03 am
Jammer om dit te ****.
Sterkte vir die familie.
14 Nov 2011, 07:04 am
@Staal(Staal)-48: **** is nie n vloekwoord nie – Keo!
**** = h o o r!
14 Nov 2011, 07:05 am
Crazy!
14 Nov 2011, 07:10 am
RIP Solly.
14 Nov 2011, 07:27 am
eish this s so sad.
always rated solly when he was a shark.
condlencs to his friends and family.
14 Nov 2011, 07:29 am
SollyT RIP.
14 Nov 2011, 07:45 am
RIP Solly
14 Nov 2011, 08:13 am
RIP Solly
See you at the Crossroads.
14 Nov 2011, 08:14 am
What a waste of a young life! RIP Solly.
14 Nov 2011, 08:54 am
RIP Solomzi “Solly” Tyibilika.May your life as a rugby player continue to be an inspiration to young rugby players from the dusty townships of SA even in death.May they know that it is possible to rise and get to the top and become Springboks.You are a true legend and you will never be forgotten HERO.
14 Nov 2011, 09:04 am
My condolances to Solly’s family, and all who loved him.
Solly was a very good rugby player, but due to pressure on SA Rugby to Transform, was perhaps rushed into the Boks before he was ready.
The young man had a lot resting on his shoulders,
too much really.
It’s a hard world out there.
Rest easy Solly, and thanks for the memories.
14 Nov 2011, 09:17 am
huh????
‘Bok murder was no accident’
2011-11-14 09:01Email | Print
Solly Tyibilika (Getty Images)
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SARU shocked by Bok’s murder Former Springbok shot dead All Black star in drunken spree Cape Town – In the wake of the murder of former Springbok flank, Solly Tyibilika, reports suggest that his death was not an accident.
VIDEO: Rest in Peace Solly Tyibilika
According to the Daily Voice, Tyibilika was at a local drinking hotspot in the New Crossroads township in Gugulethu at around 14:20 on Sunday afternoon when three gunmen walked up behind him while he was drinking and shot him in a rain of gunfire.
“I was in the kitchen when I heard the gunshots, then when I went to check what happened, Solly was injured, but (then) he died on the scene ,” the owner of the shebeen told the tabloid.
The owner could not confirm the number of gunmen who entered the premises.
Another witness recalls how one of the gunmen instructed him to move out of the way and said that Tyibilika was targeted.
“One of them came to me and told me to ‘move to the side’. He said he wasn’t here to shoot me, but Solly who was sitting behind me,” said the unidentified witness.
“I ran and went under the table and then I heard them shooting too many rounds to count.
“After that they left, but I was too scared to move and I could hear him (Tyibilika) struggle to breathe.
“I waited until people came to see what happened and ran to my car and went home.
“This was not a robbery because they left all the other patrons alive and killed him – there was no conversation, they just shot him,” he added.
“And Solly clearly didn’t expect it because he didn’t show any sign of fear while sitting there.”
It is further reported that two other patrons in the shebeen were injured and were taken to a nearby hospital.
Tyibilika, along with Sandile Maqungu and Simon Shumane, were arrested last month after police stopped Tyibilika’s vehicle after noticing he was driving without his headlights switched on, they then found a firearm hidden in his glove compartment.
They appeared in Athlone Magisrates’ Court on October 19, where they were charged with the illegal possession of a firearm. Tyibilika was released on bail of R800. A week after their release, Shumane was fatally gunned down.
Meanwhile, no suspects have been arrested in connection with Tyibilika’s murder, which was confirmed by SAPS spokesperson, Captain Frederick van Wyk.
“Yesterday (Sunday), two unidentified men entered a tavern in a New Crossroads, in Gugulethu, and shot at the people inside,” he said.
“They then ran out and one was seen jumping into a cockroach taxi and another ran in to the direction of KTC.”
Anyone with information on the shooting is urged to call Crime Stop on 086 00 10111.
14 Nov 2011, 09:35 am
Staal, dit was n beplan. Eish skokkend.
14 Nov 2011, 09:51 am
@Staal(Staal)-59:
Disturbing stuff Staal.
14 Nov 2011, 10:07 am
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-61:
Indeed.
A tragedy.
No doubt poops will have an amusing take on it though.
14 Nov 2011, 10:19 am
the ‘township’ has a way of pulling one back, this is no excuse for people to get involved in criminal activity. there’s NOTHING endearing about the townships – human wastelands created to house migrant cheap labour!
they are the biggest breeding ground for criminals in this country, places where the “smart guy” is the one stealing rather than the one studying for an honours degree.
this is just messed up!
rip sollyt
14 Nov 2011, 10:30 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-63:
Well said. And very sad.
14 Nov 2011, 10:31 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-63:
Rather kak news, add the death of Peter Roebuck at Newlands on Saturday as well and it truly was a dark sporting weekend in the fairest Cape.
14 Nov 2011, 10:42 am
63.Transie.
Apt assessment of the township.Was born and raised in Umlazi Township myself.My parents moved us out in mid 90′s..
And that environment is where majority of young black saffas are housed.
One must know where they come from & his people which is why I go back from time to time but there is no need to indundate oneselfs unneccesarily.Harsh environment-and this is just another reminder.Its not suprising if you were raised there unfortunately,its news now as Solly was who he was.
Ilokishi amasimba.
14 Nov 2011, 11:07 am
RIP Solly
14 Nov 2011, 11:22 am
Really sad. Not much more to say than all the best to his family.
14 Nov 2011, 11:23 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-63:
Agree.
The SA underworld uses the townships as their dens where cops don’t rule, but smart guys do!
Unfortunately, crime still pays.
14 Nov 2011, 11:47 am
Unbelievable news.
Mshini is right, he never played a bad game in the Bok jumper.
And I remember one of his best games – outplaying a world-class George Smith at his prime when playing for the Sharks vs Brumbies at Kings Park (can’t remember the year though).
RIP Solly, and condolences to his friends and family.
14 Nov 2011, 11:54 am
Condolences to the family. Sad to loose any person in this manner.
14 Nov 2011, 11:57 am
@Beast(Beast)-71:
I hope you are not the real deal Beast…. If so I had better run as I am your worst critic..
14 Nov 2011, 12:04 pm
There are several tragedies here with the shocking death of Solly.
1stly – he never reached his full potential; he would have matured over the years like most players do
2ndly – questionable decisions; if one reads that he was arrested for the illegal possesion of a firearm you get the sense that they came specifically for him, executed him and left
3rdly – And I guess this is the toughest one; one only has one life -it would have been beautiful to see him making a come-back at some stage
RIP Solly Tyibilika.
14 Nov 2011, 12:05 pm
@Bod(bod)-72: Sorry Bob, we just share the same nickname. I’m pretty critical of him also as a former frontranker, but spent most of my time at no.2
14 Nov 2011, 12:36 pm
Willevz
It was in 2005 vs Brumbies in KingsPark,he was dropped for much of that campaign playin off the bench.Putt got fired before Brumbies game then Muir put Solly back in starting XV-he had an absolute blinder that day.Pienaar also was brilliant-scored 2 tries.Tyibilika was MOM that game.
I remember Tyibilika’s first Test had tears running down his eyes during the anthem & scored try on debut-the delight on his face was palpable
Loved the game.Proud Springbok.
His best game was in 2005 vs Australia at Loftus I think.In the 1st half he was immense,covered every blade of that pitch.was weirdly taken off by Jake White which made NO sense whatsoever.he was everywhere.
14 Nov 2011, 13:17 pm
what the heck is a cockroach taxi?
14 Nov 2011, 13:52 pm
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-76:
It’s a form of transport used to send Australians home in.
14 Nov 2011, 13:58 pm
@David(David)-77:
have you exposed the hypocrites who slated solly’s performances in a bok jersey yet?
14 Nov 2011, 14:02 pm
I see the Bulls have signed Dan Adongo from the Sharks. Looking for a thread to chat about it, but none yet so far.
Anyway, back to the main topic.
14 Nov 2011, 14:05 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-78:
Put your money on Hondo for one. Remember this was 5 years ago, so I can’t remember names, only the general derision from some quarters. The comments about his problems at the Lions were in a similar vein. Essentially, he was fed up and disillusioned with his team mates who called him a quota Springbok, amongst other things.
14 Nov 2011, 14:10 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-79:
What happened to your academy?
14 Nov 2011, 14:11 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-79: Don’t know him. Is he any good?
14 Nov 2011, 14:12 pm
Hectic – really sound s like a professional hit , this story is not cut and dry …. Very sad though
14 Nov 2011, 14:25 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-82:
Never heard of him before, but he must be good. Heyneke signed him!
On a more serious note, he’s a 21 year old Kenyan lock/loose forward/wing. 197cm, 112kg, apparently got some pace as well.
So a nice versatile utility player.
And if he is a grafter, he can replace Fudge and be most useful indeed. Especially given our need for another lock as backup to Flip and Juandre.
I will keep an eye on him with some interest.
14 Nov 2011, 14:27 pm
@David(David)-81: I think they’re on extended summer break.
14 Nov 2011, 14:35 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-84: The massive Adongo, standing 1.97m in his socks and weighing 112kg at latest count, runs the 100m in under 11 seconds and was a winger in his age group days, before transitioning to a utility forward role with the Sharks Vodacom Cup team.
14 Nov 2011, 14:37 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-85:
Yeah, the graduation rate is virtually nil as well, by the looks of things. I hope they’re not charging the poor parents for the privilege.
14 Nov 2011, 14:56 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-84:
@Transformation(Transformation)-86:
well i just hope he doesn’t turn into a bulls version of kankowski.
these new age lanky athletic types that get feted as the next best of the breed and the way rugby should be played by the right type of player…the kind of player who ticks all the right ‘athletosexual’…or…’athlosexual’..(just coined it..and i like it) boxes…lord knows we’ve seen that script before…
14 Nov 2011, 14:57 pm
Tacitus
Adongo is a exceptional athlete,like Transie said he was a winger for much of his age group days.Bigger fella,not an ounce of fat on that 112 kg frame.avg accelerattion but very good top end speed much like Spies.
Still learning the intricacies of fwd play though.He is a project type player.He still needs a lot of work but the physical tangibles are there…aplenty.
Don’t expect anything from him from next 12-18months though at superrugby though.But with right coaching,mentoring-he will be a valuable asset to Bulls.At the moment he is still very much a canvas,now real work begins.Naturally gifted athlete tho as said earlier.
14 Nov 2011, 15:07 pm
Was he involved in drugs or other criminality? A hit by rival crims perhaps? Or will I be accused of debasing his memory by daring to raise this?
14 Nov 2011, 15:15 pm
RIP Solly.. I believed in you bra. Your story is huge in the context of the moral corruption of Springbok Rugby and SA society in general. I saw how the despicable coaches of SA rugby did everything to destroy you. Shame on the Lions.. shame on the sharks.. shame on loffie. With regards to loffie, I hope the fk rots in his own hell.
Solly, a springbok that never ever disappointed and who dared to say that he would unseat Schalk Burger, the Nazi, from his position as owner of the no6 jersey. He was a great Springbok who was unable to make it in Super Rugby. You have to be completely dumb not to see the irony of this and the racism in SA rugby.
Solly was assasinated by all accounts.. lets hope that is was a hit ordered outside of SA rugby
Aluta Continua
14 Nov 2011, 15:18 pm
@rugbymatch(rugbymatch)-90: Feel free to speculate.. many springbok legends seem to have dealings in the drug underworld.. P3, Joost….?? and then there is the steroid gang
It was important to note that Solly was also outspoken about his treatment in SA rugby
14 Nov 2011, 15:23 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-84: @Transformation(Transformation)-86: I now know who you are referring to. There was some hype around him at one stage a year or so ago,
Pierre Spies version 2?
Hope they keep him on the wing. A guy like that running with the ball in hand is a sight to behold.
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-84:
14 Nov 2011, 15:24 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-91:
hoesit p***?
you back on your wagon again I see?
14 Nov 2011, 15:28 pm
@Helen(Helen)-94: Fkoff.. a man was killed and you wish to indulge frivolity??
14 Nov 2011, 15:28 pm
Sorry Solly.
Life brought short. A rugby player moved on.
Lets hope he’s enjoying the eternal Rugby match in the sky. The game played in heaven.
14 Nov 2011, 15:35 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-92:
Dude, you have a very immature approach to life. Let me set you straight.
The measure of maturity is not wisdom, it is not even good judgement or moral certainty. It is the ability to hold 2 opposing view in tension without falling for the temptation to throw your total weight behind or the other view.
Therefore, be a grown up and realise that there is good in SA rugby as there is bad in SA rugby. The same goes for our opinions of people. Non-one can be ONLY good or ONLY bad. If we are mature we’ll hold these opposing views in tension within ourselves and do justice to both.
A child can only hold one view at a time, we are not children. I have the same issue with Poppa, ET and Grantie. Their views are childish.
You are trying to save the world, but I’d suggest that you grow up first and see the world as grey and not black/white as you do.
Use it, don’t use it
14 Nov 2011, 15:35 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-95: What do you call your little indulgence then? Because it certainly wasn’t a respectful message of condolence.
14 Nov 2011, 15:37 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-95:
Au contrare. you are the one who will take a life tragedy and apportion blame and insinuate a darker agenda (for which there is no evidence whatsoever). If anything, that doesn’t respect the life and tragic end for Solly.
Stick to the facts and out of respect for Solly, put your own agenda aside for a day
14 Nov 2011, 15:38 pm
My condolences to his family and loved ones, its so wrong to callously take another life, so sorry.
14 Nov 2011, 15:40 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-98:
Agree.
Not everything fits into Langers warped view of SA, no matter how hard he tries to force it to fit. It is a sad day when we can’t see tragedy as tragic, but instead try to use it to further our agenda.
Anyways, let’s give him space to grow up…
14 Nov 2011, 15:41 pm
Ignore the little monster, dont give him the attention he craves.
14 Nov 2011, 15:47 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-100: Happy Birthday Hugsy. Don’t forget to post some pics in your birthday suit
14 Nov 2011, 15:52 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-103: Tree’s birthday?
14 Nov 2011, 15:56 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-104: Yip.
14 Nov 2011, 15:59 pm
@Helen(Helen)-97: @Helen(Helen)-99: So you choose to lecture me on maturity and appropriateness.. how very rich of you. Your ignorance of black life and the associated arrogance of claiming to know better is despicable in relation to the incident and the memory of Solly Tyibilika.. Let me remind you that your worldview was formed by racist thinking drilled into you by an apartheid government and the protectors of its legacy. SARU remains the latter. You will never know more than me about being black. You will never know more than me about humanity. You will never know more than me about reaching out and you will never do more than me in changing this world
@>^..^< katman(katman)-98: Refer to the above… and yes, you will be wil also be truly shocked and dismayed if another life of a truly talented Earl Rose is taken.. fking twat.. Did you also applaud Loffie when he sank Solly
14 Nov 2011, 16:00 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-102:
Happy Birthday Huggsy.
Allow me to blow out your candles.
14 Nov 2011, 16:01 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-102: Happy Birthday Tree!!
14 Nov 2011, 16:01 pm
I’m devastated, not just because we saw a young life taken too early but also because SA Rugby failed him. Because I have no doubt if Solly was still playing now he wouldn’t of been driving around with illegal firearms in his car and this whole tragic incident could of potentially been avoided… There’s no question he was a talented player, yet he was treated as a political tool by the faceless cowards in charge. FFS we had Jake White come out and say in 2006 and basically say Solly was only in the team for “transformation” reasons, I mean how is that supposed to make a guy feel coming from your own coach? Knowing your only in the team because of your skin colour? How can your teammates respect you?
Now anybody who has half a brain knows his stint at the Lions was not all what it seemed and it must of been the final straw for him. The saddest thing is solly wasn’t the first and he certainly won’t be the last one, these guys are thrown in after only a handful of games unprepared and unready and then cast out as soon as it doesn’t work out most never to be heard again. How about some accountability from SARU rather than the usual generic press release?
14 Nov 2011, 16:02 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-106:
You think I am white??? bwhahahahahaha…….
Get over yourself. You don’t have the monopoly on black consciousness.
14 Nov 2011, 16:02 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-106: What is “black life”, as opposed to…say… life?
Unbelievable.
14 Nov 2011, 16:02 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-102: Did you shoot any poachers this week or do you hire “security guards”… like the ones who shot Solly.. R15000 per hit
14 Nov 2011, 16:03 pm
@Steel Shark(Steel Shark)-109: Excellent Post… Well said!
14 Nov 2011, 16:04 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-112: Chrissakes, you are one sick mofo. Fckoff now, hear me?
14 Nov 2011, 16:06 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-102: happy bday sharkievarkie, hope it wasn’t too hot today, not nice being drenched with you know what on your bday, and I hope that the mon.keys behaved too
14 Nov 2011, 16:08 pm
@Helen(Helen)-110: You are white.. and that has nothing to do with pigmentation.. but feel free to b ullshit
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-111: We were categorised by the Apartheid government and then made to live in areas away from white people. We were deprived of dignity and we responded to it differently.. I could continue but you are a clever chap so go read up on history and look at apartheids legacy.
14 Nov 2011, 16:08 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-106:
If you know so much about life, why don’t you respect it by putting your agenda aside and honouring a man who lost his life tragically. Are you able to do that? I don’t think so. Your ‘agenda’ and self importance is just way too important for you. One day you too will understadn that LIFE is precious and when it comes to an end, it is NOT an opportunity for you to get some mileage and grind axes. You, my friend, know nothing about life, me, reaching out, being black. Cut your losses and get out of this argument, because you are heading for a quick and short putting-in-place.
Solly died tragically. Fullstop.
14 Nov 2011, 16:09 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-116: History and Rhino’s…? Huh, come now…
14 Nov 2011, 16:10 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-116:
Why do you think I am “white”. Because I am witty and have command of English?? That shows you up for the closet bigot that you are, don’t you think?
If I gave you my ancestral history, maybe you’ll sing a different tune and realise that you are NOT the god you think you are.
14 Nov 2011, 16:10 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-114: You are nobody behind a keyboard.. man up.. name please.
14 Nov 2011, 16:11 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-106: Come again?
Did I miss something? Why is Rose going to be murdered? Or do all black players end up murdered because of nasty white rugby fans and coaches? Please explain slowly.
Whatever point you’re trying to make here about sympathies and race got lost up your own arse.
Now fck off.
14 Nov 2011, 16:11 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-116:
I look forward to hearing why you think I am white…… waiting….
14 Nov 2011, 16:12 pm
@Steel Shark(Steel Shark)-109: white used solly as his pawn to get away from picking luke, who was arguably the best opensider in the country in 2006.
Watson: I support transformation
Bok reject Luke Watson does not want to be perceived as a “victim” of transformation.
On Monday, Bok coach Jake White said he could not include the Vodacom Western Province captain in the team ahead of Saturday’s clash against the All Blacks, because “we need to be honest about the sensitivities of the make-up of the team.”
“We have got a guy like Solly [Tyibilika] and we need to show that transformation is happening in our country,” White said.
Watson said he had not been distracted by the massive controversy and was concentrating on Western Province’s match against the Valke in Brakpan tomorrow.
“I don’t want to be seen as a victim of transformation,” he told the Cape Times on Thursday. “I’m a child and supporter of transformation.”
This entry was posted on Thursday, July 20th, 2006
14 Nov 2011, 16:13 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-120: Warrens Buffet – superjanitor, alright ?
14 Nov 2011, 16:13 pm
Helen…..go fark yourself….leave me out of your little crude gossiping please…..like I give a fark what you think of me?
Fark you lady / man ,whatever the fark you are…
4 more years ….thanks to Plod….no grey areas bit ch….just plainly black and white.
14 Nov 2011, 16:14 pm
Here we go
The fourth idiot under the mainline bridge is back
14 Nov 2011, 16:14 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-103: Thanks, might put a bikini one on just for you
14 Nov 2011, 16:15 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-118:
Don’t give him your name.
I have a funny feeling about this guy.
14 Nov 2011, 16:15 pm
@Helen(Helen)-119: Every white person in SA has mixed heritage.. so that is not the defining factor you idiot.. How dumb are you. Being white is about how you think and if you are coloured as you now claim then please tell me which school you went to.
14 Nov 2011, 16:16 pm
@grant10(grant10)-125:
Chill Grantie…..
I am good and bad. Can you hold that in tension like a grown-up?
14 Nov 2011, 16:16 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-123: Luke has more integrity than tnhe entire Fat Boys Club put together….
Jake was ,and remains ,a snake
14 Nov 2011, 16:18 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-121: Did you like the other Nazis also get excited about the drug incident supposedly involving Earl.
14 Nov 2011, 16:19 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-129:
So, what is your definition of being black and white if it has nothing to do with colour, culture, ancestral history and language?? And is this an internationally accepted form of judgement? and how do you judge yourself by these criteria?
Do you judge whether someone is black or white based on their wit, education and proficiency in English or which school they went to?
You are more than a little weird. There is no way I (a woman) will tell you (weirdo freakshow) anything about myself. Are you crazy?
14 Nov 2011, 16:20 pm
@grant10(grant10)-131: From one day to the next, a hormonal mofo… Just a couple of days back you were speaking sense and I would stand with you anyday…. and now you go all farken up the pole… You’re one mad menopausal hippy, hey.
14 Nov 2011, 16:20 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-132: Why don’t you piss of from this thread. You’re just stinking the place up. Post your opinion on the Bryce thread. I promise, we’ll all go and read it.
14 Nov 2011, 16:20 pm
@Helen(Helen)-130: have you ever come on this site and seen that I have had a dig at you in abstentia?
Grow a chin man….you got a beef with me that is fine…..I am not here to be liked…I am simply here expressing my opinion…..I thought that what a blog was for?
At least have the integrity to be honest and say to my face you dont like me……it is not cool to read it behond my back.
14 Nov 2011, 16:21 pm
@Helen(Helen)-133: B ULLSHIT!!!! have you not heard of profiling???
14 Nov 2011, 16:22 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-129:
I thought you two were having a budding romance?
What’s up with the hate?
14 Nov 2011, 16:22 pm
@Helen(Helen)-128: Don’t worry *****… I let him think of me as a janitor (which I am, of course)… It puts him at ease… gets past the inferiority complex…
14 Nov 2011, 16:23 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-139: ***** = “He.lls” FFS, the censor is barmy.
14 Nov 2011, 16:23 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-132:
Now I get you.
Saru treated Brent Russel like an idiot, just because he was black.
Crowds and coaches treated Monty like a leper in the 90′s just because he was black….
Gary Teichman was dropped for the show pony just because he was black.
Bismarck was treated badly by Saru because he was black.
14 Nov 2011, 16:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-134: listen you prat….you the most insane so d i ever seen on this blog site…..so calling me names is rich coming from a certifiable wally like you…
14 Nov 2011, 16:24 pm
@Steel Shark(Steel Shark)-109: Good post. Well said.
14 Nov 2011, 16:25 pm
langers
give yourself a posklap you silly little man.
14 Nov 2011, 16:25 pm
@grant10(grant10)-136:
Sorry you were offended.
I stand by what I said, because it is true.
Learn somthing from it or ignore it. Up to you.
14 Nov 2011, 16:26 pm
@Helen(Helen)-141: bissy was treated badly because of the fat boy and a weak kneed spineless coach….
14 Nov 2011, 16:27 pm
@grant10(grant10)-142:
Hold the tension, my friend….. don’t fall into the trap of believing only one or the other extreme
HG is a wally, but HG is also an intelligent woman who deserves to be taken seriously.
14 Nov 2011, 16:28 pm
@grant10(grant10)-146:
You are missing the point little boy.
Shhhhh now, the big people are talking
14 Nov 2011, 16:28 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-112: Shaun that is totally out of order. I hope you have the decency to apologise to Treehugger. She certainly did not deserve that.
14 Nov 2011, 16:28 pm
@Helen(Helen)-145: for me things are black and white….wrong or right…..you live in your wishy washy grey areas…..I will live in mine…..
now you go learn something…..you pompous prat…
14 Nov 2011, 16:29 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-127: Excellent! I shall be on the lookout
Not too much monkeying about now today ok? I hope Treehubby is going to spoil you tonight…..
14 Nov 2011, 16:29 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-135: Agree.
14 Nov 2011, 16:29 pm
@grant10(grant10)-142: “Insane”? You… calling me “insane”???
You farken outta your tree again…. When someone says Puke Watson has “integrity” – thats what I would call INSANE…
I actually reckon you may need HRT…
14 Nov 2011, 16:30 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-132: What does that even mean, you imbecile?
Was I supposed to be upset that Earl was involved in drug dealing?
Was I supposed to buy the bullshit that “he was just in the flat” and feel outraged?
Was I supposed to think of Earl as the victim, and feel angry with the Nats for pushing him into drug dealing?
You sound like a weakling, my coloured friend. Like someone who, through apartheid, has found himself a convenient scapegoat for all his and his people’s failings. And even from the relative comfort of your Stevenage digs, you will continue to pass the buck, lay the blame and spew the hate.
Again, please fck off.
14 Nov 2011, 16:32 pm
happy birthday treehugger.
14 Nov 2011, 16:32 pm
Come on everyone Katman was right in his post 135. Take the fight to another thread. Take it to another thread, but move away from this one with the fighting.
This thread was for people to leave their respects to Solly. Let us respect that.
14 Nov 2011, 16:32 pm
langers’ innards are being flayed open for all to see.
they appear to be a nasty shade of yellow,
14 Nov 2011, 16:33 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-153: wtf is HRT?
14 Nov 2011, 16:33 pm
@Helen(Helen)-141: Can you see what I mean about profiling.. your sympathies lie with white players that had to queue up behind other white players who had better Nazi credentials…
Who is the best flyhalf in the country by a country mile?? Breath deeply and swallow before answering
@>^..^< katman(katman)-135: and you think that’s all it takes to get rid of me… BTW, my anger is a tribute to Solly.. Feel free to indulge in a bit of frivolity with treehugger on this thread in desicration of solly’s name
14 Nov 2011, 16:34 pm
Happy Birthday Hugs.
14 Nov 2011, 16:34 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-137: dude, this is a thread about solly, can you not hijack it with your inane racial nonsense?
14 Nov 2011, 16:34 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-107: Thank you, hot wax ?
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-108: Thank you
@Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-115: lol, thank you, cold here today.
14 Nov 2011, 16:34 pm
@Helen(Helen)-147: A “Wally”? Hellsteeth, you insult me… I might have heard (or read) worse… lol
14 Nov 2011, 16:36 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-112:
You are a sicko.
You can not sit here and claim to have the moral highground when this is how you behave and this is the level of self control you are capable of.
I for one, hope you never succeed in changing the world. It will be like Nazi Germany and Rwanda combined.
There is a reason why people like you aren’t taken seriously and you have to spew forth all this insensitive crrap on a little rugby blog in the southern most corner of africa. no-one else will listen to you and soon no-one here will either.
14 Nov 2011, 16:37 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-159: You anger is a tribute to Solly? That’s the biggest load of rubbish posted on keo in a long time. Surely no one takes you seriously.
14 Nov 2011, 16:38 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-162: Where would you sit on crafty continuum:
Barely Legal……………………………………………………………………………………Milf
(Obviously asking the age of self respecting Ladies is a No No)
14 Nov 2011, 16:39 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-166: Forgot the wink :
14 Nov 2011, 16:42 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-159:
Good grief! you are an idiot.
I am not even going to ask how you deduce such nonsense.
Your racist remarks are not welcome here. Remember, a Nazi is a Nazi, regardless of their colour or the colour of their victims. I think there is a reason why your favorite insult is “Nazi”. Some transferance, perhaps?
Your disrespect for human life is not welcome here.
You overstepped a line today and your disrespect of Solly was horribly out of place.
enough.
14 Nov 2011, 16:43 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-154: What a c unt.. ER was not involved in drug dealing. He was not charged or found guilty of anything of the sort but I am sure the story made wonderful news for those seeking his demise. What If he was shot during the incident???
@Puma(Puma)-156: People are not showing respect when they are fking false in their sympathies. You and your sharks did everything to make sure that this star was shut out. You are guilty you abhorrent fk
@Gunther(gunther)-157: My anger at the b ullshitters and those who were openly demeaning of Solly for merely striving to be the best, including you, you nazi fk, is there for all to see.
14 Nov 2011, 16:43 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-163:
Other times you are just a clever woman
14 Nov 2011, 16:45 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-169:
enough now.
Go away.
You are a disease.
14 Nov 2011, 16:46 pm
@grant10(grant10)-158: Hormone replacement therapy… Go ask JustRugby for some spare pills to try it out… Bob’s your uncle… you’ll come right again…
14 Nov 2011, 16:48 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-169:
What is your problem
Whites didn’t kill him
14 Nov 2011, 16:49 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-169: Ja whatever, you pillock. You probably want me to believe that Benjamin was framed too. Probably by some white guy. And probably because he’s coloured. Innit?
14 Nov 2011, 16:51 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-169: Shaun take your fight to another thread. Have some decency. Stop thinking of yourselve Shaun. Did you read my post 149? Probably not. If you have any decency in you then apologise to Treehugger.
I am a Shark supporter. I don’t select players to play. Solly played well at the Sharks by the way.
Anyhow take your agenda somewhere else Shaun. To make something out of someones death for your own self importance is utter disgraceful.
This thread was meant to leave our condolences to Solly not a disgraceful fighting match.
Take your fight and argument to another thread. Like Katman said whoever wants to speak with you will follow you there. Carry on here and we will ignore you.
14 Nov 2011, 16:51 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-161: I remember Solly well.. I was excited about this talented and spirited star.. You choose to intellectualise your lack of activism by seeking to build bridges with c unts??
@Helen(Helen)-168: Respect the life of the living before clamouring for a spot at the graveside condolence pedastal
@>^..^< katman(katman)-165: Refer to the above
14 Nov 2011, 16:52 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-169: again shaun, can you please take your racial angst and conversation to another thread, solly memory doesn’t need your grandstanding.
have some decency, for once.
14 Nov 2011, 16:52 pm
@Puma(Puma)-149: Hi Puma, dont worry what the drol has to say, it is so insignificant , just like him.
14 Nov 2011, 16:54 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-176: activism on an anonymous rugby blog?
just pay your respects and go do your struggle hero routine on another thread man!
14 Nov 2011, 16:55 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-176: When Solly was at his peak, playing for the Sharks, the kids in our road took turns to be “him” when having their own game on a Sunday, after watching Solly play at Kings Park the previous day. (They obviously also took turns to be John Smit, but that is not the point.)
Difficult to explain that hey?
14 Nov 2011, 16:55 pm
@Gunther(gunther)-144: Come on Gunther.. respect for the dead, distain for the living??
@Puma(Puma)-149: So you gonna drag a white female into the argument.. old trick, white female in distress was always the rallying call for nazis
14 Nov 2011, 16:56 pm
@Puma(Puma)-175: yourselve = yourself
14 Nov 2011, 16:57 pm
@grant10(grant10)-155: thank you
@Puma(Puma)-160: thank you
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-166: lol none of the above, next ?
14 Nov 2011, 16:58 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-181:
you are pathetic.
you think talking out your bum on a rugby blog constitutes activism?
this country is better off without ***** like you.
14 Nov 2011, 16:58 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-176:
That’s rich.
Clearly, you suffer from Guilt Transference. Re-read your accusations and then look yourself in the eye and say that you are not guilty of exactly what you accuse others of.
Let me say this one more time.
Have respect man!!! If not for Solly, then for yourself.
14 Nov 2011, 16:58 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-172: YOU SHOULD BE ON mrt…..
14 Nov 2011, 16:59 pm
guys just ignore shaun, please!
14 Nov 2011, 16:59 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-183: Happy Birthday Treehugger! (It is also mine today, so you must be truly great too
)
14 Nov 2011, 17:01 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-179: I take it that you are not in the struggle routine.. is that for poor black men??
@Finfan(Finfan)-180: Yep, Solly was a hero.. all the kids recognised that .. pity about the coach that kept him on the bench or just on contract
14 Nov 2011, 17:01 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-178: Said Happy Birthday to you in a few posts earlier. Hope you having a good time. Sorry it had to be on this thread.
Just ignore him Hugs. Shaun has no decency at all. Has no respect for Solly only using this thread for his own gain. What Shaun said to you in post 149 was unacceptable.
I am out of here. The reason so many don’t blog here any longer. Cause of all the political nonsense.
Cheers Hugs enjoy your day. Catch up another time or on RT.
14 Nov 2011, 17:02 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-181:
“distain” for the living…..
Now, I am curious to know where you went to school.
Sounds like a phrase out of an Omo ad. “I can’t remove distain with regular washing powder.”
14 Nov 2011, 17:02 pm
@Finfan(Finfan)-180: did the fattest kids play plod role?
14 Nov 2011, 17:03 pm
@grant10(grant10)-186:
You should have a look at your caps lock
14 Nov 2011, 17:03 pm
People have managed to take a dump on a thread meant to honour a player who gave his all for his country when called upon and a victim of a ruthless attack.
14 Nov 2011, 17:03 pm
@Finfan(Finfan)-188: Happy Birthday to you to buddy.
Now out of here.
14 Nov 2011, 17:04 pm
@Finfan(Finfan)-188:happy birthday finfan
14 Nov 2011, 17:05 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-187:
It’s like ignoring a fly.
If you don’t wave it away, it sits on your toast.
14 Nov 2011, 17:05 pm
@Puma(Puma)-195: @grant10(grant10)-196: Thanks!
14 Nov 2011, 17:06 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-194:
Ja, and I feel ashamed that I got sucked into it.
Should’ve ignored the provocation.
14 Nov 2011, 17:07 pm
@grant10(grant10)-186: Mrt? Come now.
14 Nov 2011, 17:07 pm
@Puma(Puma)-175: THis thread is about Solly and your guilt.. fking faker
@Gunther(gunther)-184: Your perception of my activism comes from your upbringing.. remember how that was??
@Transformation(Transformation)-187: They have been trying to ignore me for years.. they even banned me. Exclusion is There thing but you are catching on fast
14 Nov 2011, 17:07 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-194: Agree 100% buddy. It is shocking. A thread that was meant for us to pay our respects to Solly. Someone comes along and hijacks it for his own agenda. Absolutely disgraceful.
Would like to ask you about Dan. Will ask you on the Zac Thread.
This one was meant only for respects to Solly.
14 Nov 2011, 17:07 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-194: Apologies. You are right 100%. Will exit this thread now
14 Nov 2011, 17:09 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-200: you dying to find out what it is……?
14 Nov 2011, 17:10 pm
also leaving now.
This is disrepectful of Solly’s memory.
Not sure I’d forgive Langers fro this disgrace, BUT…..
Our anger should be directed instead at the animals who killed Solly. no-one, white or black, succesful or unsuccessful rugby player, deserves to have his life cut short like this.
RIP Solly
14 Nov 2011, 17:11 pm
@grant10(grant10)-204: Not on this thread any more. Suitably chastised by Mshiniwami.
14 Nov 2011, 17:12 pm
@Finfan(Finfan)-188: Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear Finfan, happy birthday to you
Glad to meet another outstanding person
and a Sharks supporter on top of it, dont know why people try mess wtih us Scorpio’s 
14 Nov 2011, 17:14 pm
@Puma(Puma)-190: How do I gain you c unt?? You were part of Solly’s demise as a player.. How dare you come onto this thread and look for sympathy!!!
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-194: Raising the injustice metted out to Solly is not dumping on him. Its glorifying his struggle against the Springbok racist regime
14 Nov 2011, 17:18 pm
@Puma(Puma)-202: My agenda is the wellbeing of those that were marginalised by you and your friends in SARU and at the sharks
@Helen(Helen)-205: You hated him as a speingbok because he was competition for your beloved schalk.. yep, go and sulk elsewhere.. fking B ullshitter
14 Nov 2011, 17:19 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-207: Thanks
Very few people try mess with me – vicious sting in the tail. I’m sure you know exactly what I mean
14 Nov 2011, 17:22 pm
Shaun.
Take a step back.
A man was murdered.
14 Nov 2011, 17:22 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-206: okay….you will need to appy your pea sized brain then and work it out for yourself prat…..
RIP Solly….
14 Nov 2011, 17:23 pm
@Puma(Puma)-190: thank you puma, please dont let the insignificant one chase you away, just dont respond to him, it is easy.
14 Nov 2011, 17:23 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-209:
Again, you are found out.
Schalk is not my beloved and I was a big fan of Solly. Still am, so please go away. You have done enough damage already.
I am asking you sincerely and from the bottom of my heart. Please go away. Your disrespect is ugly to witness.
14 Nov 2011, 17:25 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-211: I will point out the fakers
14 Nov 2011, 17:28 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-215: Do it elsewhere, you big fat fake.
14 Nov 2011, 17:28 pm
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-211: He is clearly very drunk. Just leave him.
14 Nov 2011, 17:29 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-215: I didnt know the man. Never even met him.
But I witnessed a friend of his break down in tears when his (Solly’s) brother phoned her with the news.
No one close to Solly is on any “SARU’s fault” campaign, none of them are “pointing out the fakers”.
They just grief.
Let them.
14 Nov 2011, 17:31 pm
wtf has Tybilika’s sad demise in a township shebeen got anything to do with rugby whatsoever?
14 Nov 2011, 17:38 pm
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-215: I don’t know how you live with yourself. Is your mother still alive to witness all this?
14 Nov 2011, 17:52 pm
@Helen(Helen)-214: Please retrieve any evidence of your support for solly during rugby career. Also include evidence of your anger at his maltreatment. Keo ran a story on him… you never contributed anything
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-218: This is the first time that I sense sincerity from you… and you have humbled me somewhat. Please don’t disappoint me in the future
@Porto(Porto)-220: I hope you are not pointing at me.. remember the other three fingers
14 Nov 2011, 18:12 pm
Oh well.
As Midnight Oil says: My country, right or wrong.
Condolences to Solly’s family and friends.
14 Nov 2011, 18:24 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-222: I really dig that song. “I hear you say the truth must take a beating…”
14 Nov 2011, 18:27 pm
I just love all their stuff!!!
14 Nov 2011, 18:31 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-224: Me too. Got some of the very old stuff on vinyl, but got no record player.
Really like the album before Diesel and Dust (called Red Sails in the Sunset).
14 Nov 2011, 18:39 pm
Comedy show here I see.
Point No 1 – You have to be a moron to actually spew your life prophecies and get serious on a this site.
Point No 2 – Retaliating to any morons life prophecies on this site in a serious manner is almost as thick
Leave the poor soul in peace…
14 Nov 2011, 19:01 pm
Here we are coming to pay our respects to a fallen soldier and along comes some silly sad sack sore arse who tries to p1ss on his parade.
shameonyou youknowwho
RIP Solly
14 Nov 2011, 19:17 pm
Sad day on this blog all round.
15 Nov 2011, 00:54 am
Wow cant believe some of the stuff on this blog… as a player yes burger was better than Solly… but I dont remember tyblikia having a bad game for the boks… infact he was a very good player… its very sad that some bloggers are still sitting here hitting against him…. for those who dont believe.. life is bigger than rugby.
This blog should celebrate the life of solly tyblikia… no man deserves to go the way he did… he made a positive contribution to south african rugby and wasnt given any opertunities at the lions… he did infact have a good game for the ep kings against the lions
RIP Solly… hopefully thiis incident will help change crime in south africa
15 Nov 2011, 04:25 am
@cab(cab)-219:
Nothing indeed Mate… nothing indeed…
15 Nov 2011, 05:02 am
*** me this thread turned pear shape and it didnt take long as well.
Even after a tragic death some of you ( the typical ones) go out of your way to cause anger and talk cr@p.
RIP Solly
PS, dont read Keo in heaven.
15 Nov 2011, 06:58 am
@cab(cab)-219: @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-230: you two are just being callous poepholle…well done
15 Nov 2011, 07:10 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-232:
Nah mate… this thread is pretty ******* sad… every Tom, **** and Harry pushing their own agenda’s from rugby transformation, to rugby skills, to selection to whatever rugby… and that includes a few of your posts above.
The fact remains… another poor South African has lost his life to meaningless violence… and it has fokal to do with rugby.
15 Nov 2011, 08:01 am
Having read all the above comments…
‘No single, essential difference separates human beings from other animals.’ So began a feature article on evolution in TIME magazine (‘How Man Began’, March 14, 1994). The more I thought about this sweeping statement the more I began to warm to it.
For example, like humans, apes have well formed rational faculties. Their ability to develop an argument, follow a line of logic, draw conclusions and frame hypotheses is quite remarkable.
Also like humans, apes have a marked faculty for language. (This, of course, is intertwined with their powers of reason.) Their vocabulary is enormous, their grammar complex, and their conversations deep and meaningful.
The apes’ ability to codify language in writing is further proof of their close relationship to humans. In this respect, it was most gratifying to see the number of apes who wrote to TIME magazine in response to the article on ‘How Man Began’. I was particularly interested to follow the line of reasoning of the orang-utan who argued that apes had evolved from humans, not vice versa.
Like humans, apes also have a strong spirit of inquiry. Their research in the fields of astronomy, mathematics, medicine and physics is noteworthy.
Apes also (again, like humans) yearn for meaning in life. This is why they devote so much of their time to philosophy, theology and ethics. The religious sentiments and practices of all apes can be traced back to their intense and endless quest for meaning.
Apes are concerned about questions not only of origin but also of destiny. The best proof I can offer for this claim is the maxim by one famous ape philosopher who said, ‘Whether my life leads ultimately to the dirt or to the Judgment, either way, I’ve got a problem.’
Apes also have, like humans, a refined aesthetic sense. They admire beauty and long to surround themselves with it. When an ape cultivates a garden, puts flowers in a vase, or hangs up a painting, what is it doing if not expressing a love of beauty?
Again like humans, apes have a strong creative impulse. This is seen in their poetry, painting, dance, drama and music. To a lesser extent their creativity is also evident in the way they gather in weekly craft groups to weave baskets, spin wool, knit shawls, and cover photo albums.
The sense of humour shared by all apes is another proof of their close kinship to humans. Their delight in the ridiculous and their love of a good laugh is plain from the popular ape jokes they tell.
… en so aan….
imo… lots of apes registered here on Keo….
15 Nov 2011, 08:04 am
Lord take these boots offa me
I can’t use em no more
It getting dark too dark to see
Feel I’m knocking on heavens door
Lord take this gun down to the ground
I can’t shoot it no more
There’s that long dark cloud comin down
Feel I’m a knocking on heavens door
Swing Lo, sweet chariot comin for to carry me home
Life is as it is, weren’t in our hand to get given and ain’t in ours when taken away, karma is the orchestrator of how it goes from one action to the next, and is inviolable and relentless from morning to dusk, from first breath till last, play your part well before the final curtain fall.
15 Nov 2011, 08:26 am
@Staal(Staal)-234: Classic!
15 Nov 2011, 08:35 am
All the usual sanctimonious idiots on their soapboxes policing the blog…*ho hum*
15 Nov 2011, 08:37 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-237:
Care to name some names?
15 Nov 2011, 08:39 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-238:
Care to piss off?
15 Nov 2011, 08:44 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-239:
Not really
Who are you talking about.
15 Nov 2011, 09:04 am
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-116:
“We were deprived of dignity…”
as George Benson said…
“No matter what they take from me, they can’t take away my dignity…!” these are very true and wise words…
point being, no one can take away or deprive you of your dignity… you can only give it away or surrender it…
just ask Luthuli, Mandela, Sisulu, Mbeki, Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Malcolm X…
yes, apartheid was despicable, indefensible, an abomination…
but all people are defined by their dignity… it characterizes them…
to say you were deprived of dignity is a cop-out like saying the devil made me do it…
yes.. you were deprived of your freedom and rights and land and opportunities and eduction and many other things… for which we can all rightly condemn the apartheid government…
how people reacted to the injustice and abuse and deprivation had everything to do with their own personal dignity….
but the only person who can deprive you of your dignity… is you…
15 Nov 2011, 09:07 am
@Staal(Staal)-234:
we are supposed to share 98 per cent of our DNA with chimpanzees…
a lesser known fact is we share over 60 per cent of our DNA with slugs…!!
human beings are nowhere near as far up the evolutionary ladder as they like to believe…
what really separates us from all the other species on this planet is…
our arrogance…!!
15 Nov 2011, 09:07 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-233: is this the first ever thread where a tragedy has befallen a former bok?
were you and cab as dismissive when joost’s motor-neuron disease thread was put up?
he was a BOK, a lot of people including myself interacted with him personally when he was part of the now-defunct SARU rugby academy at UPE and were proud of what he’s achieved. now this might not mean fokkol to you and you’d rather be up the arse end of john o’neill but that’s you.
if you’re not interested don’t comment on the thread or go to ruggaworld where they only have RUGBY-related articles, oh i see they have an article there on Solly but you didn’t act like a d!ck there did you…peophol.
15 Nov 2011, 09:18 am
@ufo(ufo)-242: you’re wrong, it’s not our arrogance, it’s our stupidity…
as is clearly displayed on this blog
15 Nov 2011, 09:21 am
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-244:
he’s very arrogant to have said that.
15 Nov 2011, 09:39 am
@Staal(Staal)-234:
15 Nov 2011, 09:52 am
The other two accused in Solly’s unlicensed/concealed firearm case were also killed by gunshot – both within the last three weeks. Add to that the fact that the shebeen gunmen told patrons to move aside as they only had business with Solly, and it starts to sound like someone lived by the sword.
15 Nov 2011, 09:54 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-243:
with you on this transformation… well said…
15 Nov 2011, 09:56 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-243:
You still cannot fathom it can you… it’s ‘comments’ being dismissed not the tragedy… it’s his rugby career being used on this thread by many to further their own (including your own) keo agenda’s/spats/trolls… his death has nothing to do with them… and most of you should be ashamed of what you’ve posted…
In a few years time his daughter will more than likely be trawling the web info for info and memories of he father… I only hope she never comes across some of the comments in this thread.
15 Nov 2011, 09:59 am
@ufo(ufo)-242:
hmmm i have never seen a slug blame a ref for the loss.
15 Nov 2011, 10:02 am
speaking of slugs.
15 Nov 2011, 10:03 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-247: by the gun you mean…
15 Nov 2011, 10:04 am
And speaking of chimps
15 Nov 2011, 10:05 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-232:
why am i being callous?
show me where, point it out.
the problem here is someone has died, and there are several ppl who for some quite unkown reason have decided it is time to take political or rugby jibes.
that is callous. in fact, its just having absolutely no idea.
15 Nov 2011, 10:11 am
Now now
Let’s not start again
15 Nov 2011, 10:12 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-243:
you have obviously completely misinterpreted my previous post, i was not saying the announcement of his death should not be posted, my issue were some of the purposefully inflammatatory comments that preceded my own, almost as if it were some kind of joke.
I actually did not what to comment, since this is not the situation to engage in an argument over, yet that is precisely what many people above have sought to do. Its unbelievable. And the only reason I can fathom YOU have responded is because you feel sensitive that my comments were aimed at you, they were not, they were aimed at shaun, tho i did not wish to get into an argument on a thread which should transcend that rubbish.
15 Nov 2011, 10:19 am
@cab(cab)-254:
Yep he’s miss-read both comments before going on a miss-guided hissy-fit.
Man up admit your mistake and move along… or don’t.
15 Nov 2011, 10:21 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-255:
yeah its getting a little silly.
15 Nov 2011, 10:25 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-249: what ‘agenda’ are you on about?
i referred to jake using solly as a pawn to avoid picking luke in 2006, that is a FACT.
15 Nov 2011, 10:27 am
@cab(cab)-256: apologies cab.
thanks for taking the time to clarify.
15 Nov 2011, 10:27 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-260:
no problem.
15 Nov 2011, 10:30 am
@cab(cab)-256: just for clarity…i wasn’t worried that your comments were “aimed at me”
i actually thought you were saying keo putting up a thread about solly’s passing was “not rugby related”, that’s all.
i couldn’t care less what anonymous bloggers say about me personally.
15 Nov 2011, 10:34 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-262:
Apology accepted.
15 Nov 2011, 10:35 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-262:
no i dont care what subject matter keo pr anyone else for that matter posts, what prompted my post was precisely because it seemed the thread was becoming ridiculously callous, and being used as a platform for political incitement.
anyway thats it for me.
15 Nov 2011, 10:43 am
@youknowwho(youknowwho)-159:
You do have some valid points,as much as we mourn the death of Solomzi “Solly” Tyibilika,let us not lose sight of his ill treatment by SA Rugby in general.There are more white players who behaved a lot worse than Solly but they got help their coaches were patient with their boozing and their other off field shenanigans.SA Rugby at large let Solly down and I can assure you Solly is not the only one.This is a legacy of apartheid and we still have a long way to go before we can trully say we have turned things around.I have pasted an article that shows two of Solly’s friends were also gunned down,one of them also had potential to become a sports star.
Cape Town – The murder of former Springbok player Solly Tyibilika at a Cape Town tavern on Sunday came just days after two of his friends were also shot dead, The Cape Times reported on Tuesday.
Simon Dan Shumane, 25, and Sandile Magunqu, 27, were arrested together with Tyibilika on October 17 when police found a 9mm pistol in their car, the newspaper reported.
Gugulethu police had stopped the car when they saw it driving slowly at night with its headlights switched off.
Tyibilika, Shumane and Magunqu appeared in the Athlone Magistrate’s Court two days later and were released on bail of R800 each. They were expected to return to court on January 26.
However, Magunqu was shot dead along Tom Street in Gugulethu and Shumane was shot dead a week later.
Shumane was part of the Western Province’s Rugby Academy in 2004 and was a promising cricketer in his teens.
Western Cape police spokesperson Captain Frederick van Wyk told the newspaper that he could not confirm whether the murders were linked.
“Currently the cases are being investigated separately, but should a link be found, the investigators will combine the cases,” he said.
15 Nov 2011, 11:00 am
@Izwe Lethu(Koos van der merwe)-265:
Now that post I agree with.
15 Nov 2011, 16:18 pm
For all those thinking Solly was maybe involved in criminal activity or something. Tyibilika & his other mates had no criminal records.All were former sportstars to a certain level. There was ONE gun found amongst all 3 of them yes illegal but no big arsenal etc
I will tell you what most likely happened: Nothing criminal at all. If you have lived/hang out in the locations/townships and especially in taverns etc one will come into contact with people who are bad news & are resentful or who you are(sports stars/model C boys etc) and already you are vulnerable. Some of these people are the neighbourhood hoodlum,gun wielding nothing to lose types. And all it takes is a argument/misunderstanding when drunk or taking someone’s girl to lose your life in that environment. You get into a scuffle,f*ck somebody up while your boys jump for you etc then ALL of you are targets.Threats are made against your lives, get a weapon to protect yourselves-cheap in the hood(probably illegal).
You get caught on your lonesome….And its over for you. As all 3 were executed.
If you understand the dynamics that exist in township then this story will make sense.
16 Nov 2011, 07:19 am
@Izwe Lethu(Koos van der merwe)-57:
well said – what a tragedy of humanity that things like this happen every day in SA
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