Board to tackle Bok post
17 Nov 2011
The process for appointing a new Springbok coach is top of the agenda in an executive committee meeting of the South African Rugby Union in Cape Town on Thursday.
Among other issues on the table are the proposed six-team Currie Cup, Test match venues for 2012 and the Kings’ planned participation in Super Rugby in 2013, although keo.co.za understands that the Eastern Cape franchise are certainties. That discussion is likely to deal with details around their inclusion, not their inclusion itself.
As for the coaching role, it appears there are pre-determined favourites. Stormers and Western Province coach Allister Coetzee seems the preferred man for the job, with WP director of rugby Rassie Erasmus touted to fill a similar role at national level. There is sure to be discontent among potential suitors if Peter de Villiers’ successor is headhunted (as opposed to the lengthy process of calling for applications and interviewing shortlisted candidates it has followed in the past).
De Villiers has indicated that he will apply for the post, while others like Gert Smal, who coached the Springboks’ forwards to a world title in 2007, has also been mentioned. Smal’s successor Gary Gold last week said he would love the challenge of being the head coach.
World Cup winning coach Jake White has consistently spoken about his desire for another tenure, but others like John Mitchell of the Lions and Heyneke Meyer of the Bulls are unlikely to throw their names into the hat.
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17 Nov 2011, 12:50 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-43:
AC will ‘answer’ The Party’s call of duty, wanna take a bet?
17 Nov 2011, 12:53 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-47: Yes, sacrifices have to be made. EP have been raped from pillar to post and they will continue to be if not granted top flight rugby.
@stew(stew)-48: We beat ALL Kiwi teams in 2010 and really only lost to the Crusaders in 2011. We’re the one provincial side who has the beating of you guys.
@stew(stew)-49: No. We’re getting to the point where we challenge for the trophies on a regular basis and that is a huge achievement given where we came from. We made the 2010 final after beating all the Kiwi teams and made the semis in 2011, topping the SA confluence. We’ll start taking titles as soon as we stop injuring our players.
17 Nov 2011, 12:54 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-51: Unlike you, I rate him as a coach and reject racism of any and every sort.
17 Nov 2011, 12:54 pm
@stew(stew)-48:
Y
17 Nov 2011, 12:55 pm
John Mitchell or Eddie Jones and no politics and we would win …
17 Nov 2011, 12:58 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-52: did the stormers beat the chiefs?
17 Nov 2011, 13:00 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-47:
The problem was caused by SARU, when they went out to tender for the 5th Franchise after the Lions/Cheetahs split. They should never have allowed the unions to decide who they wanted to partner with.
When you consider that the EC is the largest and oldest black rugby playing province in SA, it was criminal to exclude them.
As Rossineri says, without an S15 franchise, the region will never attract the top players. Boland, by comparison to EP, is part of a Franchise and a feeder for WP and the Stormers, as you well know.
17 Nov 2011, 13:01 pm
@J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-55:
Two Prophets unwanted in their own lands.
(good luck with, Head like a Baboooon’s Buttocks, and Judas Jones).
8)
17 Nov 2011, 13:02 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-52: I am reffering to BMT issue because as you saw last season you were hammered twice by the Saders , at your home ground , these are matches you must win ? Would irritate me
17 Nov 2011, 13:02 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-58: Geez I wish for once we could just pick a coach on merit. AC may be a decent choice but he is clearly not the best option.
17 Nov 2011, 13:04 pm
@David(David)-57:
We do not need anymore Teams in Super Rugby David.
Not without a complete revamp of the stucture anyway.
17 Nov 2011, 13:05 pm
@stew(stew)-48:
You got it!
With the home refereeing of Joubert and Jonker only the Crusaders might have a reasonable chance at Newlands, as it was demonstrated this year.
Nevertheless, The Stormers will be weaker in 2012, they haven’t replaced Fondsa and Louw, with Burger fast approaching 30 and Becker’s return not yet medically guaranteed they may not make the Play-offs in 2012
17 Nov 2011, 13:05 pm
I must admit that there is nothing more exciting in world rugby than the selection of the new Springbok coach – it is like the finale of Bold & the Beautiful for guys !!!!!
17 Nov 2011, 13:07 pm
One of the advantages of the new Executive Committee, is that it isn’t the Presidents Council, and doesn’t carry the same prejudices or agendas. From that aspect, I can’t see there being any resistance to Mallet if he was available.
17 Nov 2011, 13:10 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-61:
I agree, but the revamp would be done in SA, and that’s where the sh*t’s going to hit the fan amongst the local fans and franchises.
17 Nov 2011, 13:18 pm
@Skeppie(Skeppie)-60:
Life is about comprise Skeppie.
AC it will be.
8)
17 Nov 2011, 13:21 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-62:
Who do you support?
17 Nov 2011, 13:26 pm
SARU
Bunch of Idiots
Wonder who the next Affirmitave Action coach will be?
Don’t really care
17 Nov 2011, 13:40 pm
@stew(stew)-59: Crusaders were beaten in 2010. AC has a very impressive win-loss record as a Super coach. Injuries hampered the second 2011 Saders match.
17 Nov 2011, 13:49 pm
Anyone but Gold. Seriously
17 Nov 2011, 14:04 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-69:
Great excuse
17 Nov 2011, 14:10 pm
Pick Mallett with a hope that it can be an eight year run of continuous improvement, but with performance based renewal/termination. Give him clear goals and get out of his way.
That’s what you would do if the objective is sustained rugby success. But that is not the objective, and fans will have to accept more of the dim-witted decision making that made Hoskins and co look so totally incompetent over the last four years.
By the way, why are they only now talking about process? It was no surprise that PdV was moving on. The post RWC musical chairs has been going on for weeks already.
17 Nov 2011, 14:19 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-36:
i will google that and see if i can get it… on your recommendation.
sounds like there’s a few dead men in there… were they dressed in black?
i like a dead man in black…
8)
17 Nov 2011, 14:21 pm
@funkyzoo(funkyzoo)-72:
If Mallett makes himself available, he’s the best candidate for the job by far.
I just can’t see it though.
17 Nov 2011, 14:23 pm
@funkyzoo(funkyzoo)-72: well, because PdV’s contract has another month to go and SARU are being pro-active in discussing this now, agreeing on terms of reference and a way forward ie call for applications or approach individuals like the NZRU did just 2 weeks ago.
17 Nov 2011, 14:28 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-67:
hondo supports any person who is not black…
17 Nov 2011, 14:34 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-75:
One problem though is, if they take too long, a lot of current Boks contracts expire along with PdeVs. If they don’t know where they stand they’ll probably take others overseas to make up the loss.
17 Nov 2011, 14:44 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-67:
It’s impartial,
I support an honest, un biased rugby first, not the kind where the ref openly bent the results (like in the Waratahs vs Bulls) followed his employers instructions or a rugby driven by a forced selection policy, then I support the Lions and the Bulls (Midrand style,,,)
Congrats to the Bulls for summing some courage to select Spies, missing the play-offs in 2011 obviously had hurt them pretty bad financially, Willie Wepener will provide power and stability at their front row which is all they need!
money talks!
17 Nov 2011, 14:51 pm
Peter de Villiers
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According to Bet.co.za, current Brumbies coach Jake White is 12/1 to take over one of most high profile jobs in world rugby, whilst Eddie Jones joins White at 12/1.
Another former Springbok coach Nick Mallett is in at 16/1 whilst Peter de Villiers joins Mallett at 16/1 to take over the England hotseat.
Brendan Venter, at 28/1 is the next South African name being thrown into the hat.
The favourite to take over from Martin Johnson is Rugby World Cup-winning former All Blacks coach Graham Henry, at 16/10.
BET.CO.ZA odds on the next England manager:
Graham Henry – 16/10
Jim Mallinder – 25/10
Eddie Jones – 12/1
Jake White – 12/1
Nick Mallet – 16/1
Peter de Villiers – 16/1
Warren Gatland – 20/1
Shaun Edwards – 22/1
Clive Woodward – 22/1
Toby Booth – 25/1
Richard Cockerill – 25/1
Dave Ellis – 25/1
Brendan Venter – 28/1
Mike Catt – 33/1
Michael Cheika – 33/1
17 Nov 2011, 14:52 pm
Funny Transformation! Yep, they probably think waiting for a month before the end of someone’s contract is proactive. How long do they think it would take someone to transition out of another job, move, find schools etc. even after a new contract is signed?
Proactive? Yeah, like wetting your pants before going to the toilet.
They should be announcing the new coach right about now.
Clown show.
22 Nov 2011, 04:59 am
Oz hired a SA coach for their cricket team and a Kiwi for their rugby team.
There’s open-headed thinking for you.
22 Nov 2011, 05:46 am
@TheTackler(TheTackler)-81:
South Africa have two NZ head-coach’s in the S15… New Zealand have zero international coach’s in the S15… what’s your point?
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