Mallett rules out England job
17 Nov 2011
Nick Mallett says he will not apply for the vacant England head coach post following the resignation of Martin Johnson.
Media reports believed former Springbok and Italy coach Mallett was one of the favourites to replace Johnson after the latter announced stepping down on Wednesday. However, in a statement released on Wednesday night, Mallett said he will not put his name forward.
‘The RFU contacted me earlier this week to enquire about my availability for the position, should Martin Johnson resign. I had previously expressed my interest in the position publicly and was interested to hear what RFU representatives had to say,’ said Mallett.
‘After mulling it over for a few days and discussing the opportunity with close friends and family, I have decided that I will not be making myself available for the position and I have disclosed this to the RFU.’
Mallett listed family reasons for not making himself available.
‘I am happy to have returned home to South Africa after a tremendous four-year term with the Italian national team. We are settled in Cape Town and it is my wish to be able to enjoy time with my wife and kids after four years in Italy.
‘The job of England coach is one of the most prestigious in world rugby and I wish them all the best in their quest for the best possible man for the job.’
Meanwhile, former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones, who is currently based at Japanese club Suntory, confirmed his interest in succeeding Johnson.
‘You’d always be interested in coaching England,’ Jones told BBC Radio. ‘It has got a fantastic domestic competition, very, very good players and you have just got to get the right program in place and they should be good enough to win the next World Cup.’
125 Comments
17 Nov 2011, 06:49 am
Hmm… The plot thickens – I expect to hear White’s name soon.
17 Nov 2011, 07:04 am
Heard SARU is gonna by-pass advertising the coaching position and approach Rassie and Alister directly… So maybe Mallet can coach Stormers/WP…?
17 Nov 2011, 07:08 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-1: Mallet has been approached a few times for the England job and has always said that a rugby manager should report to a management board and not a Director of rugby (Rob Andrew) who may be less experienced then the manager (Him). If the RFU do the right thing and get rid of Rob Andrew, things could change considerably.
17 Nov 2011, 07:11 am
please god, let rassie and alister stay at the wp.
17 Nov 2011, 07:17 am
please.
17 Nov 2011, 07:17 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-3:
Yes I remember the same thing – Mallet does not like to report to a boss it seems – wants to be top rugby dog and report to board only.
17 Nov 2011, 07:19 am
Would love for Mallet to come in as DOR at the Lions. Maybe de Klerk can get the new investors to make him an offer he cannot resist.
17 Nov 2011, 07:20 am
Eddie Jones maybe the right man for the job – jake will not be far behind him… With good structures in place England could become the powerhouse they were in 2003 …… Got to agree with PA , White has certainly been interested in the job before and i am sure he still is ( much easier to coach England were he can concentrate on rugby not politics)
17 Nov 2011, 07:22 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-4:
The only guy to publicly state he wants the Bok job is Gary Gold
17 Nov 2011, 07:23 am
Mallet should be bok DOR. The boks can’t afford Rassie and AC at the helm, that’ll be scary.
17 Nov 2011, 07:23 am
But hang on… Mallet is already in CPT… SA Rugby claims to have turned a new leaf now wanting the best at all costs… Hmmm…
17 Nov 2011, 07:24 am
Someone’s aiming for higher honours in South Africa…
17 Nov 2011, 07:28 am
England would not lose much going with Eddie jones. Jake white needs time at the brumbies to pull them together and put a stamp on his playing style for four years. Let’s how he goes, he hasn’t had a job in a while.
17 Nov 2011, 07:29 am
Would be awesome to see a real rugby man Mallet back in charge of the boks – but i dont think many will except the poison chalice twice ????
17 Nov 2011, 07:33 am
Jake White is still the best option for SA rugby – to this day he is the only one to take a disaster of a side to WC victory and restore pride in the jersey – it will never happen though , still far to much political involvement in SA rugby.
Will be Alistar Cotzee , color is still an issue in SA
17 Nov 2011, 07:38 am
Stew: matfield is convinced that Jake at the time and now is not greatest coach SA has available. Jake needs to build a dynasty at the brumbies to prove himself.
17 Nov 2011, 07:38 am
Morning all
To me it looks like there are two scenarios.
Either Mallet will coach the Boks, or Coetzee. If it is Coetzee then i think Mallet will coach WP/Stormers.
17 Nov 2011, 07:41 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-16: When has Victor Matfield become they oracle of rugby ??? Lets see him coach then he can chat. …. After all he rated Pdivvy , need i say more ?
17 Nov 2011, 07:43 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-16: I also think you would have to be very nieve to not believe that the Boks would have been unstoppable if Jake had been given another 4 years after winning the Webb Ellis.
17 Nov 2011, 07:45 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-9:
i know it sounds a bit precious and drama queenish (ala grant) but if rassie and alister get the job it will trully, trully destroy me.
this is my tipping point.
a litle part of me will die inside.
i will choose not to support the boks anymore and i will write to saru explaing my reasons why and lay the blood at their door.
gold, like divvy, will never get the job so we can breath easy wrt any pronouncements they care to make.
rassie and alister on the othe hand i would not trust, i would not trust them like i woud not trust a nigerian prince who i met on the internet trying to give me his family fortune…for a small price.
order of preference:
h m
mallet
woodward/mitchell (in any order)
17 Nov 2011, 07:46 am
I don’t think Mallet should be the DOR any time any where…
he should just coach…
when he was the DOR at WP it was a complete stuff up… IMO…
Seems he only wants to report to a Board and doesn’t want to be told what to do because of his moerse big ego… and because he is exactly the sort of person he does not want to report to… so why should his ego and meddling be inflicted upon any other coach…
Seems to me Mallet wants the his cake and to eat the other guy’s as well…
Can you imagine him being DOR over John Mitchell… there’d be blood at Ellis Park… and not from the Lion’s feeding on lesser teams…
Mallet must just coach… That’s what he’s good at… That’s his ceiling…
17 Nov 2011, 07:46 am
@ufo(ufo)-2: that would at least save the Stormers / WP…..but fark up Bok rugby 6 love.
The other way around far better from a national perspective.
17 Nov 2011, 07:48 am
@stew(stew)-15: farkoff with your snake man
17 Nov 2011, 07:48 am
@stew(stew)-18: He rated PDv as a man manager, they all liked him. However, he felt that Jake was not in the same league as heyneke Meyer. I think victor is well positioned to make an informed opinion on the matter. With the assistance of Eddie jones in the 07 wc it’s important that Jake provides his own voice on proceedings at the brumbies.
17 Nov 2011, 07:50 am
I never rated Matfield as an above average player. He was good, no brilliant at lineouts, but thats it.
If you analyse Matfield and you remove the linouts from his game, then you will see that he is an average player. He will only commit to a situation in a game only as an last resort if no else is there. AKA Spies!
Matfield only got away with this type of play because Bakkies (The Enforcer )played alongside him throughout his main carreer, and made up for what he lacked.
17 Nov 2011, 07:50 am
@stew(stew)-19: that’s an absurd position, the boks weren’t dominant in the four years leading up to the world cup in 07, what would’ve made them the number 1 team in the world after?
17 Nov 2011, 07:52 am
Interesting
So it is now between Mallet and the Stormers duo of Tweedledee and Tweedledumb. Dee is Rassie of courses. So let’s hope it is Mallet.
17 Nov 2011, 07:54 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-20: stop using my nams in vain you plonker.
I agree with you though.
Rassie and AC will kill our rugby.
Heyneke has dissapointed me big time with Spies and Timotei though…..absurd….
Mitchell or Mallet for me….without any doubt.
Jake can go fark himself…
17 Nov 2011, 07:54 am
@Chris4Lions(Chris4Lions)-25: That’s a very interesting point and number of my friends have mentioned this notion to me.
17 Nov 2011, 07:54 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-26: In the last 8 years of rugby , from an outsiders view the most , the Boks played their best rugby in 2007 – their pool game in 2007 against England was perfect – i have never seen such a complete performance form a Springbok team.
17 Nov 2011, 07:57 am
@stew(stew)-30: Exciting………your point being?
17 Nov 2011, 07:57 am
@ufo(ufo)-21: I tend to agree….Mallet should be a HC doing what he does best……
Does not strike me as a Boardroom Warrior…..
Boks need an experienced, no nonsense hands on coach……who wont tolerate prima donnas and will crack the whip.
Mallet is that man…..
Or Mitchell….
17 Nov 2011, 07:58 am
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-11:
I was wondering about that as well. He wants to stay in SA, which reduces his options if he intends to continue coaching. Of course he could have been offered a position with SAIL.
17 Nov 2011, 07:59 am
@stew(stew)-30:
I agree totally about the first England RWC game.
17 Nov 2011, 08:00 am
@stew(stew)-30: Jake is a snake oil salesman….a sconniving, 2 faced, vindictive rat…..
Last thing we need
Let him ply his trade there in Aussie.
Lest you forget ….no fetchers….49 nil and a record saved only by Eddie Jones and a fortunate 2007 wc route
17 Nov 2011, 08:01 am
@stew(stew)-30: You’ve not explained how the boks would have dominated post 07 with Jake at the helm, when they didn’t dominate with him from 2004 – 2007 until they won the wc.
17 Nov 2011, 08:01 am
The only real choice for the Boks coaching job of people that is available is Mallet. Coetzee and Rassie can trot along with weepee.
John Mitchel must stay with my beloved Lions for at least another 4 years.
A good outside choice would be Reds coach Ewan Mckenzie, the took the Reds from nada to champs. But then Saru wont look ouside SA for coaches.
17 Nov 2011, 08:02 am
@grant10(grant10)-32:
yeah grant… but what the boks need and what SARU wants are… unfortunately… two completely different things…
SARU definitely will want a yes man… not a maverick who wants everything his own way…
17 Nov 2011, 08:02 am
Mallet
Please my man….
Make my year…..
Take the damn poisoned chalice boet
17 Nov 2011, 08:04 am
@Chris4Lions(Chris4Lions)-37: mc cenzie already said not available….
Mallet
mitchell
rest are trouble….including Heyneke who has revealed his true colors with the Spies and Timotei appointments….
I am still in a state of shock
17 Nov 2011, 08:04 am
@grant10(grant10)-28:
we stand united
and if needs be i too will buy a namibian jersey.
17 Nov 2011, 08:05 am
@ufo(ufo)-38: I am not so sure UFO……seems they committed to the best coach……so lets see.
I dont like the AC/ Rassie option at all…..I see lots of tears if we head down that road
17 Nov 2011, 08:06 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-36: In 2004 they won the Tri Nations in how long ??? With the structures in place , team confidence and players reaching their peak , i could not envisage another scenario … however these are what ifs , we will never know !
17 Nov 2011, 08:08 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-41: good heavens….thats a first!
17 Nov 2011, 08:10 am
As a blogger mentioned Gary Gold is the only man to put his hand up … FFS have we not had enough of the last clowns who ran the show ? It will be AC and Rassie, get used to it. Mallett and Mitch will not take sh*t from these aholes at SARU
As long as they INVEST in defence coach, fwds coach and Sheryl they will do ok. SA talent is enough to hide the short comings of SARU .
17 Nov 2011, 08:10 am
@stew(stew)-43: you befok in the kop my man…..
off your rocker
a chicken wing short of a braai..Jake will destroy our rugby ….
fark him
6 love 6 love
all over rover
goodnite nurse.
He cant tie Mallet/ Mitchells shoe laces….
17 Nov 2011, 08:11 am
@stew(stew)-43: Hence it being an absurd idea, Henry, smith, and Hansen are still a more formidable coaching unit than Jake, ac, and smal, even after Jake and co won the wc in 07. Jake must prove himself at the brumbies first.
17 Nov 2011, 08:12 am
@bananas(bananas)-45: they appoint Gold, Rassie / AC…..
Then me and that other blogger buying Namibia jerseys
had enough of this kak last 8 years to last me a lifetime
17 Nov 2011, 08:12 am
@grant10(grant10)-46: Just because Plod was his captain !!!!! Dont worry he aint coming back lol
17 Nov 2011, 08:14 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-47: Aaah , theres were we differ not everybody in NZ rates Henry & Co – we from the South still are backing Deans for the Ab job !!
17 Nov 2011, 08:15 am
@stew(stew)-19:
Only in an ideal world would the great man come back to coach the Boks.
Lets see how he does with the Shackledraggers in Oz. Will be interesting to see how his coaching style has changed from 2007. Like all great coaches hw moves with the times and no doubt would be studying the trends to suit his coaching style.
Intelligence, cunning and style…..Jake White.
PS. If he ever comes back to South Africa we will never see Fluke Twatson puking on a Bok jersey….one more positive.
17 Nov 2011, 08:17 am
@grant10(grant10)-42:
of course they’ll say that grant… but if it were true we wouldn’t all be playing these guessing games… would we…?
if they sincerely wanted to get the best man for the job they’d have already outlined a strategy, criteria and timeline of how they are going to ensure they get the best man for the job so that everybody interested… (and there are a lot of them but they just don’t want to say so publicly for various reasons, which is prudent..) would know exactly where they stand and could prepare their own case based on those criteria…
but instead… SARU… typically is fumbling and bumbling about like a ship without a rudder, sails or captain…
why don’t they come out clearly and unambiguously and tell the south african public EXACTLY what their intentions are…?
so… when they say they want the best man for the job… IMO… it is merely PR spin… and we wake up each morning to discover it is still groundhog day…!!
i hope i’m wrong…
17 Nov 2011, 08:18 am
Looks like the England job is about as popular as the Bok job. Mallinder it is then.
17 Nov 2011, 08:21 am
@stew(stew)-50: Well that discussion has been convincingly settled, Henry win ratio over 8 years with the abs is at 85% and deans is holding the teacup saucer at 57-58% with the wallabies. Deans has a long way to go!
17 Nov 2011, 08:22 am
This is what I said yesterday. It’s good news for the Bok supporters that Mallett is returning home. He’s going to need to do something with his time…and you’d expect that to be rugby related.
17 Nov 2011, 08:24 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-53: What about Steady Eddie? Would you take Malinder ahead of Eddie? What are your thoughts on Malinder? I followed him closely whilst staying in Northampton – I think he may be too much of a nice guy for the role actually. Obviously a bit inexperienced too.
17 Nov 2011, 08:26 am
It’s quite confusing at the moment, so many candidates so many statements:
Gary Gold- ‘”I have the experience and want the job”
Piet de Villiers-“If it is part of god’s plan i will serve my country”
Rassie-“ What job”?
Alister-“ I have a contract with WP’ (giggling nervously)
Nic Mallett-“I want to live in Cape Town and enjoy my family”’
Mitchell: “Not interested”
Meyer : “I am not going to apply”
I still reckon it’s going to be either Alister/Rassie unless they pull a surprise card and buy Gert Smal out of his contract. Apparently he wants to come home.
17 Nov 2011, 08:27 am
Boks will have to beg Mitchell to coach the boks, rassie and ac will just kill the boks.
17 Nov 2011, 08:27 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-54: Deans hasnt been coaching the Abs – with a more than 50 % Canterbury make up , the Abs would be devasting with Deans
17 Nov 2011, 08:27 am
@stew(stew)-49: duo of duds
17 Nov 2011, 08:28 am
@Great White Shark(Predawn)-51: Quite true lol !!! That would not be a bad thing
17 Nov 2011, 08:31 am
@Yetirat(Yetirat)-56: Mallinder’s inexperienced but he’s about the best option on the table – and that isn’t a particularly great list. Eddie Jones is a good coach but I don’t think the rfu are about to hire an Australian as head coach.
17 Nov 2011, 08:33 am
@stew(stew)-59: Are you saying that deans would have had a higher win ratio than Henry and won the wc?
17 Nov 2011, 08:35 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-62: Are England “not ready for a foreign coach” ? Don’t come here with your Matfield tendencies
17 Nov 2011, 08:35 am
Mallet would be a great S15 coach.
Should replace AC if he gets the bok job.
I, for one, would love to see Mallet coaching in SA again. He’s a great character and good for the game.
PS. Could it be that he turned down the Eng job (after publically expressing his interest previously) because he believes he a chance to make a Bok come back?
17 Nov 2011, 08:35 am
@stew(stew)-59: Keep in mind that the reds won the super 15, so deans had a solid basis for the wallabies.
17 Nov 2011, 08:40 am
Deans is a good coach, but brings his personal feelings toward players into the mix too much to ever be a really great coach.
17 Nov 2011, 08:45 am
@Brads(Brads)-67: That’s a fair comment.
17 Nov 2011, 08:45 am
@stew(stew)-43: the Boks in 2004 “won” the Tri-Nations by a LOSER’S bonus point, that is hardly worth mentioning. jake won zilch in new zealand, was getting walloped with regularity by france, ireland had his number too after being arrogant, he had a dismal record of not winning all the games on the northern hemisphere tours and don’t forget the IGNOMINY of 49 – 0
jake must stay at the brumbies.
17 Nov 2011, 08:46 am
Deans needs to win next years 4N to back any claim to being a world class coach.
Forget 2011.
SA and NZ were dicking around with their selections with an eye on the RWC while Aus played it straight. As a result they won the 3N deservedly.
So lets see what happens next year when there is nothing else to aim at!
17 Nov 2011, 08:47 am
@Helen(Helen)-65: I was thinking that. I’m hoping he’s had an offer of sorts from SARU and is perhaps willing to accept some compromise and work with an administration we all know he doesn’t particularly love, in return for being based back at home with his family in Cape Town.
17 Nov 2011, 08:47 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-57: they must get Wayne Smith!
17 Nov 2011, 08:47 am
Amazing that the top available coaches are not interrested in coaching SA and ENG.
Shows what maladministration and politics does to the game, it only attracts the desperate and 2nd tier options.
17 Nov 2011, 08:51 am
Man, I hope Mallet makes himself available to the Boks, and is given the authority to run the show. That includes appointing his assistants. That would really make my day.
As for the England job, they need a proper disciplinarian. Too many fat egos drifting around there at the moment. A guy like Warren Gatland would have been good for them, but the Taffs have him locked away in a dungeon, guarded by dragons as we speak.
17 Nov 2011, 08:53 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-72:
Wayne Smith might – might I say, be interested in a specialist role if there was one on offer, but head coach never.
He doesn’t like the pressure.
17 Nov 2011, 08:53 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-62: Mcgeechan would be a great coup if they could persuade him away from Bath.
17 Nov 2011, 08:53 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-63: Almost certain …. His win ratio at the Saders is unmatched and i believe it is the style that the Abs want to play …. Winning this WC was no great feat , lets be honets France had a chance of winning it ( need i say more ) , the level of opposition was c-r-a-p , in 2007 , with possdible the best group of Abs of all time , poor selection and gameplan saw us being knocked out…. IMO Henry was lucky not to have to play against stiffer competition – i am glad he has gone.
17 Nov 2011, 08:55 am
@BULLET(BULLET)-73:
i don’t think either case is true…
you don’t apply for top jobs in any field by blabbing to the media… just look what happened to jake white… had to retract pretty damn smartly for blabbing…
if guys are already employed as coaches, they can’t say “I want another job” because it would be a slap in the face of their current employers… which wouldn’t matter IF they got the job… but if they don’t get it they will then have to work in a situation where their employers will always doubt their commitment to their current jobs…
if someone is not employed currently he would also be a fool to show his hand by saying he wanted job ‘A’ because, should he not get the job, he ruins his chances with other companies or unions…
so all this “no one wants the job” is just so much BS… most rugby coaches will jump at the chance to coach the Boks or the Poms… but only a fool would say so in the press…
17 Nov 2011, 08:56 am
Pomms and SA both need a luis luyt to steer the ships. No nonsense! He took no kak from the politicians, and he certainly did not let coaches who did not give results stay on.
I recall that Ian Mac (who is regarded as one of the finest coaches of the 90′s) lost 2-1 to NZ in NZ. Hardest tour ever, and he was fired. If we had that in SA rugby now, only results would matter.
Ity could mean a new coach annually too. Waa haa
17 Nov 2011, 08:59 am
SA surely has the talent within it’s own ranks to fill the job.
If a SA can’t make a fist of it because of outside influences, how the hell is a foreign coach expected to do any better.
17 Nov 2011, 09:00 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-62: get GH
hehehe
17 Nov 2011, 09:01 am
UFO, fair point, but mallet can say what he wants, he has no other job.
Also, you don’t see them ruling out the ABs job?
But you are right I suppose.
I would prefer the – ‘I am not ruling myself out of anything’ response.
17 Nov 2011, 09:02 am
@ufo(ufo)-78: Morning fella, hope you are well.
i agree 100%, all this is just posturing. Alistair would jump at the chance to coach the boks, so would Nick and anyone else.
The fact that Nick is back in SA could mean nothing more than him doing what anyone else would do once his coaching contract comes to an end: Come home. he lives here and I’m sure his family would love to have him back.
Then again, it could mean something else too….
We’ll just have to wait and see.
This is very much the “silly season” with contracts coming to an end and much still to be decided, positions open ect….
17 Nov 2011, 09:02 am
@BULLET(BULLET)-79: louis luyt’s se gat. rugby has moved on from the amateur era of egomaniacs.
17 Nov 2011, 09:03 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-76:
no, no, no, no…no…absolutely not. mcgeechan is really just a similarly likeable white version of pdivvy, a great man-manager with a certain charisma and charm thats great for a working relationship and in a way brings good out of the men under him for the most but is not in any way a highly technical intellectual thinker type of rugby brain/coach/manager.
we need to move away from doing it on gees alone.
17 Nov 2011, 09:05 am
Saru will never appoint Mallet again. He told them to gft. Sneaky Slappes will infiltrate wprfu and his contact will reveal all…
17 Nov 2011, 09:06 am
The coaching team should be:
Head Coach: Eddie Jones
Forwards Coach: Nick Mallet
Backline Coach: Brendon Venter
This team would take the Boks to number 1 and keep us there.
17 Nov 2011, 09:07 am
@BULLET(BULLET)-79:
You need stability to build a team, a new coach every other year would be a disaster.
Besides which, putting all the focus on winning a 6 week knockout tournament held once every four years is poor form.
The sponsors for a start must be grinding their teeth down to the gums the way ALL nations abandon their obligations.
17 Nov 2011, 09:10 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-84:
Quite right.
Handing the man from Dorking a gold watch was naff to say the least.
17 Nov 2011, 09:11 am
@BULLET(BULLET)-79:
i too yearn to see louis luyt reicarnated at saru with the proviso that any such incarnation doesn’t again repeat any stupid things. e.g. like taking an iconic universally loved leader like desmond tutu to court or something similar hehe.
17 Nov 2011, 09:16 am
@BULLET(BULLET)-82:
yeah bud…
he doesn’t have a job… and he wants one for sure…
so to say “I wanna coach the team ‘A’” would exclude him from any other credible position because the boards of teams ‘B’ and ‘C’ would say to themselves… “okay… mallet would rather coach team ‘A’… so let’s look for someone who would rather coach our team…”
no rugby union wants to believe they were ‘lucky’ to get a coach because the coach failed to get another position…
but privately, mallet can approach anyone he likes and make them believe THEIR coaching position is the be-all-and-end-all of rugby coaching… that’s how it happens in the professional world and rugby is (supposed to be) professional…
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-83:
hey bud… always well thanks… the grass in greener on my side…
i’m sure you’re doing great and you’re son is much better i hope…?
yeah… i agree with you too… he’s just coming home… it is what it is…
but in this case it could also be what it isn’t…
as i said a while ago… personally i think AC is going to get the bok job…
and i would be happy for mallet to take over WP/Stormers and appoint his own assistants etc… but he must keep his ego in his kit-bag and not wanna run the whole union…
17 Nov 2011, 09:17 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-90:
Luyt was a bully.
Today he would be labled an idiot.
17 Nov 2011, 09:17 am
what makes you say that?
17 Nov 2011, 09:17 am
@Slappes(Slappes)-86:
hey bud…
please do…
and let us know…
i hate this wishy-washy not knowing BS…
17 Nov 2011, 09:20 am
@Brads(Brads)-92:
no, i dont think he’d ever be called an idiot.
a bully and a doos- then and now for sure but never an idiot.
17 Nov 2011, 09:21 am
@ufo(ufo)-91: Exactly. Nick has been there and burned some bridges.
AC ticks all the boxes, have said it all along. For better or worse.
Nick can coach. he’s proven that. he also has the habit of shooting his mouth off, so coaching is what he should stick to. He doesn’t have the tempremant for a DOR job if you ask me.
17 Nov 2011, 09:27 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-90: he took mandela for setting up a commission to investigate alleged racism, graft and nepotism in rugby.
17 Nov 2011, 09:28 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-95:
Making comments like he did then in todays environment, there is no question, he would be an idiot.
That is what I said!
And he is the type of man some people here are looking to step up and control SA Rugby.
17 Nov 2011, 09:30 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir… Really? I think England actually have a pretty decent bunch of young players, who have just gone of the rails. There is a lot of exciting young talent to come looking at the under 20′s teams of the last 4 years. They need a decent man manger more then anything else. Coaches can provide ideas and help with the tactics, but I think you’re selling the greatest British and Irish Lions coach well short in your opinions!
17 Nov 2011, 09:32 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-97:
yes, i know that. i was being hypothetical and saying that if there ever was a reincarnation of luyt that he did not do something similar by for example taking archbishop tutu to court in the same way luyt did to nelson mandela.
17 Nov 2011, 09:32 am
@au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-85: Should have read like this!
Really? I think England actually have a pretty decent bunch of young players, who have just gone of the rails. There is a lot of exciting young talent to come looking at the under 20?s teams of the last 4 years. They need a decent man manger more then anything else. Coaches can provide ideas and help with the tactics, but I think you’re selling the greatest British and Irish Lions coach well short in your opinions!
17 Nov 2011, 09:37 am
@Ufo – will let you know asap. Personally, i think saru’s going for AC.
17 Nov 2011, 09:38 am
1st choice:
Head Coach: Mallett
Forwards Coach: Gert Smal
Backs Coach: Todd Louden
17 Nov 2011, 09:54 am
@Slappes(Slappes)-102:
thanks bud
17 Nov 2011, 10:25 am
@Brads(Brads)-98:
no, not an idiot…a doos- yes but not an idiot.
anyway, the point is some feel we need a strongman in rugby again and i’m of the opinion too.
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-99:
i just feel the boks seriously need more a henry type thinker’s coach than they need an inspirational man-manager.
17 Nov 2011, 10:26 am
Hmmm…so does Mallett have his eye on an even bigger job?
I would hope so…
17 Nov 2011, 10:35 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-101:
my apology, i thought you were recommending him for the boks.
if its for england then sure, dont know if he’d be the man to rebuild after a mediocre performance by johnson though.
17 Nov 2011, 11:40 am
@stew(stew)-77: You’ve refuted nothing of henry’s record nor game strategy. Super 15 and test level coaching abilities are separate, you forget that Wayne smith started the crusader dynasty not deans.
17 Nov 2011, 11:53 am
@mpundulu(mpundulu)-108:
Ted’s greatest achievement was never losing The Bledisloe Cup while he was at the helm.
8 straight years.
The NZRFU view the Bledisloe as second only to Bill in importance.
GH’s Coaching record is friggen amazing.
17 Nov 2011, 12:02 pm
mshiniwami #103 – Wow that is a strong coaching team. Oen can only wish and dream for that to happen. Mind you if AC has already been quoted as he hasnt been approached by SARU then maybe there is a reason for Mallet refusing England coach job and returning to SA!!!
17 Nov 2011, 12:08 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-109: lol how is that an achievement, Australia are **** and haven’t won/retained the bledisloe since the last time they were actually good – 2002
17 Nov 2011, 12:16 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-111:
if Australia are so cr*p Biggles,
then how is it they are 7 from 7 against Old Blighty, since 2002?
BTW…………………………………Told you so re Marty. A real shame actually. He should have been groomed for 5 or 6 years before being thrown to the dogs.
17 Nov 2011, 12:20 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-72:
I don’t want Wayne Smith for the boks, nor GH. I want the Boks to stick with ****** SA coaches.
17 Nov 2011, 12:26 pm
@BULLET(BULLET)-79: Luyt was a filthy, classless racist. Nothing more.
I would like a John O’Neil type character.
17 Nov 2011, 12:34 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-112: they’re not 7 from 7 since 2002, it’s Oz 8-6 Eng and they’ve had more home games. Australia are not a great side and have not been since the turn of the century.
I never understand why NZers talk up the Bled, their battle with SA is a much closer and more competitive affair. I think it’s NZ 6-5 SA since the last WC? the Bledisloe Cup during that time is NZ 12-2 Oz.
Agree re. Johnno, he should not have been fired, especially since there now doesn’t appear to be anyone to replace him.
17 Nov 2011, 12:43 pm
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-115:
You are almost correct re the Eng/Oz clashes BH.
I was of course TOTALY WRONG.
It is actually 7 all.
As for Aus or SA being the stronger rivalry. Not much in it, since the professional era began.
Marty showed a lot a dignity today. He will be back.
17 Nov 2011, 12:45 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-112: 19 june 2010 Australia 20 – England 21
13 November 2010 England 35 – Australia 18
17 Nov 2011, 12:52 pm
@The Gloater – formerly cane(cane)-116: agree, MJ will be back one day, I think it’s inevitable.
17 Nov 2011, 15:02 pm
I see the bookies have P Divvy as a 16/1 bet to take the England Job…
CAN YOU IMAGINE P DIVVY COACHING THE ENGLISH?!
17 Nov 2011, 15:14 pm
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-119:
i can picture him saying, in well accented english and deep voice, through the muzzle of his moustache: “i want you boys to play whats in front of you”…
17 Nov 2011, 16:22 pm
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-119: that would be the funniest thing
17 Nov 2011, 16:24 pm
we can all hope for Mallet, but when last did SARU not disappoint? it will be AC, which is not terrible but not ideal.
17 Nov 2011, 17:01 pm
@mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-103:
Well other than Mallet stating he is ‘never’ going back to South Africa… Louden has stated he’s only interested in a head-coach position hence his move to Sydney University…
His track-record from 2004 is exceptional not just on attack and in the backs… he’s certainly got all the credentials… but would he want to come back and live in South Africa is a different story…
20 Nov 2011, 00:39 am
@Big Hit(Big Hit)-111:
Hang on, i thought the RWC told the true story as you have been saying over Keo for years.
OZ made the SF, England and SA didnt. That makes OZ a better team than those two, of course thats going on your logic over the years. Have you changed your mind now?
20 Nov 2011, 06:19 am
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-119: If something as absurd ever happened, Smit could also change nationality and be captain
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