Sarries suffer in Smit’s second start

Sarries suffer in Smit’s second start

28 Nov 2011

GARETH DUNCAN looks at the Saffas who featured in Europe over the weekend.

Saffa-laden Saracens’ seven-match winning streak in the English Premiership was broken after they suffered a 30-8 away defeat to Northampton Saints. It was retired Springbok captain John Smit’s second successive start for Sarries as first-choice hooker Schalk Brits sat out his second game because of a three-match suspension for a dangerous tackle. It also proved to be Sarries’ second consecutive defeat in all competitions as they lost to out-of-form Biarritz in the European Cup last weekend.

Smit showed moments of good play, but delivered a disappointing overall performance as he formed part of a dominated pack. The 33-year-old was subbed in the 59th minute and replaced by former England U20 hooker Jamie George. Centre Brad Barritt, lock Mouritz Botha and No 8 Ernst Joubert (who scored a try) also featured in the run-on side while Stormers-bound prop Deon Carstens and SA-born England prop Matt Stevens came off the bench. Saints tighthead prop Brian Mujati was called off the wood early in the second half.

Saracens No 8 Ernst Joubert

Flanker Francois Louw and scrumhalf Michael Claassens couldn’t inspire Bath to victory as they lost 16-7 to Worcester Warriors, who capitalised on World Cup-winning flyhalf Stephen Donald’s poor goal kicking.

Former Stormers lock Adriaan Fondse made his debut for new club Newcastle Falcons off the bench in a 39-8 defeat to unbeaten log leaders Harlequins. Tighthead prop Faan Rautenbach was solid up front for London Irish in their 21-17 win over lock Marco Wentzel’s London Wasps.

In the French Top 14, flyhalf Conrad Barnard kicked all Agen’s points in their 24-15 win over Bordeaux. Flanker Adri Badenhorst and lock Dewald Senekal also started for the victors.

Sharks tighthead prop Eugene van Staden made the first appearance in his short-term deal with bottom-of-the-log Biarritz, who succumbed to their seventh league defeat after a 28-9 loss to Racing Metro. Scrumhalf Rory Kockott kicked a penalty to help Castres salvage a 22-22 draw against Toulon, who led 19-6 at the break.

Lock Gerhard Mostert started in Stade Francais’ 35-15 away triumph over Perpignan, who had centres Gavin Hume and Rudi Coetzee, and lock Gerrie Britz in their match 22. Wing Sam Gerber and reserve lock Rob Linde contributed to Bayonne’s 15-9 win over scrumhalf Ricky Januarie’s Lyon.

Wing Ronnie Cooke, loosehead prop Retief Uys, reserve flankers Antonie Claassen and Petrus Hauman, replacement centre Riaan Swanepoel and reserve prop Pat Barnard all played in Brive’s 9-9 stalemate against log-leaders Toulouse, who started former Bulls hooker Gary Botha.

In the Pro12, Saffa trio lock Johann Muller and flankers Pedrie Wannenburg and Robbie Diack started in Ulster’s 17-9 away defeat to Glasgow. Cardiff Blues kept flyhalf Naas Olivier, SA-born Italian lock Quintin Geldenhuys and replacement flanker Frans Viljoen’s Aironi scoreless in a 38-0 thrashing.

Munster props Wian du Preez and BJ Botha and Leinster front rowers Richardt Strauss and Heinke van der Merwe were rested in their teams’ wins over the weekend.


91 Comments

  • 1.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:02 am

    the CURSE of the ‘aura’ dragon! :D

  • 2.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:08 am

    Broken record Grant will be all over this like a rash

  • 3.wallabie.: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:15 am

    saffa laden team…maybe the semi final was a fluked close game by the Boks. S15 they were terrible, tri-ations they were terrible, world cup they were terrible and Heiniken cup as well. There is a message here!!

  • 4.wallabie.: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:16 am

    Aggg fak!! lets just blame the ref for all the boks problems!!

  • 5.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:17 am

    Saracens lost 6 of their 7 games in the HEC last year with Brits starting…

  • 6.stew: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:21 am

    Not a good start

  • 7.Hurricane: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:25 am

    @wallabie.(wallabie.)-4:
    lol
    Yep, blame the refs. We did in 2007 and strangely enough it was our the Bok supporters
    telling us to give it a rest and we were not good enough, its all in the archives of Keo.
    Damn some of those comments are funny, especially whats happened in the last few months, those comments are even funnier

  • 8.iceman: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:33 am

    There are some long forgotten names in the article above.

    I did not even know Gerrie Britz and Faan Rautenbach still play rugby and what about Robbie Diack, Rudi Coetzee and Adri Bardenhorst.

    Forgotten men of South African Rugby!

  • 9.BULLET: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:41 am

    Here comes a fun few comments. Cannot wait for Ollie le Roux to come on line this morning.

  • 10.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:43 am

    Smit was one of the stand-out players for Sarries as noted by the commentators, getting over the gainline every time. Saints were well up for it after losing to lowly Scarlets in the HEC last week.

    Seems like the headlines of late have been out to discredit Smit and Matfield who were actually the best performers in losing teams.

  • 11.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:46 am

    @Hurricane(Hurricane)-7: 2007? :) you were blaming them (or him) in 2008, 2009, 2010 and right up until this WC when the ref bashing suddenly went quiet, amazing what happens when you get some hometown calls.

  • 12.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:50 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-11: still amazed that for four years all and sundry were telling us Barnes was fantastic in 2007..

    now, the ABs only won because of hometown calls.. and shoddy refs, yet the opposite was true in 07… make up your mind guys..

    what a laugh..

    Big Hit you are about as consistent as your teams performances, which says it all really…

  • 13.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:57 am

    Plod…..

    same old same old

    At least he is consistent……

    consitently losing that is

  • 14.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 07:58 am

    Plod was the biggest kob ever ….useless player with a 2010 and 2011 record that was nothing short of abysma.

    but fooled everyone with his aura

    Kyk hoe lyk ons nou

  • 15.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:03 am

    Ricky J is still playing? Hell I thought he was retired, living his dream, running a KFC franchise in Mitchells Plain.

  • 16.Upho: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:05 am

    COP 17 starting today in Durban…

    First (and most important) item on the agenda… should take up the majority of the delegates time…

    JOHN SMIT…

    and how he caused the meltdown of international financial markets AND glacier meltdown from the north pole to the south pole and chile to new zealand…

    and also an inquiry as to just how he triggered the japanese tsunami… and where he gets the money to finance world terrorism…

  • 17.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:08 am

    @Upho(ufo)-16: Smit sounds like SA’s Rob Andrew, people want to blame him for everything even though none of it is his fault :)

  • 18.Upho: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:08 am

    serious question…

    wtf do the pom commentators insist on pronouncing Smit’s surname as Schmidt…?

    drives me farken bananas

  • 19.Upho: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:12 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-17:

    you mean it’s not true…??? :shock:

    but we all know john smit is the puppet-master with his hand up juju’s bum calling for nationalization in south africa…

  • 20.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:30 am

    John Smit was poor and the uber kak sarries outfit combined with his movember makes him look like a fat porn star.

    His lineout throwing was poor, hitting rucks, winning turnovers non exsistence, best moment for him was being taken off !!

  • 21.Roar my Lions .... Currie Cup Champions 2011: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:37 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-20: he did break the gain line once though …. I was shocked to be honest.

  • 22.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:45 am

    @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-21:

    Saw that, it is what he did for the other 79.55 mins that is a concern !! ! :)

  • 23.Jeraldjay: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:45 am

    RIP Gary Speed. True great of the game.

  • 24.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:49 am

    Plod is a never was has been….just a gravy trainer milking the system foer as long as he can…..

    the paralell with Malema may be in some perverse way quite appropriate….

  • 25.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:49 am

    And not to mention that grandson of Jan Pickard, How **** was he, I mean he played in a losing side too,

    I for one am glad he’s far away from our shores.

    He should retire too.

    Looks out of shape too.

  • 26.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:53 am

    Gary Speed death a shocker……I wonder why he would have committed suicide?

  • 27.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:54 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-25: F Louw is the biggest loss in WP / Stormers rugby since Luke…..

    Rather have Schalk go than Flo

  • 28.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:56 am

    @grant10(grant10)-27: yeah i guess you picked up the irony in my post :)

    I for one don’t miss Luke, for me Flo is a much bigger loss.

  • 29.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:57 am

    @grant10(grant10)-27:

    Luke leaving saw Stormers immediately improving with two consecutive play-off placings… not rocket science… cancer…

  • 30.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 08:59 am

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-29: Luke is gonna still lead Boks

    Heard Hoskins may be on way out

    and cheecky in running to lead Saru

    about time

  • 31.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:02 am

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-29: brace yourself sheila.

    times….they are a changing

  • 32.justrugby: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:04 am

    @grant10(grant10)-30:

    Only if he produces on the field !! Playing 2nd tier rugby not doing him any favors !!

    He has not looked the player that he can be !!

  • 33.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:05 am

    @grant10(grant10)-30:

    Can anyone say gravy?

  • 34.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:06 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-32: agree 100%

    but then Luke has honor…..he would not want to be another gravy trainer Plod…

  • 35.BULLET: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:07 am

    @G10,

    Morning. Might I say that I for one really enjoy your comments. You have good humour. I am enjoying the PLOD & MALEMA similie.

    Now more pressing – how certain are you on the Cheeky Watson will be running SA rugby?
    It would be a 180 degree turnaround from Hoskins, in that CW actually has a lot of strength & conviction. Right or wrong, he wont be pushed around, but man alive, he will politic well.

  • 36.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:08 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-25: i don’t know how long it is going to take big-eared Mcgeechan to realise that Beaver is a kak kicker lol :D

  • 37.BULLET: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:09 am

    Regarding the Bok captaincy, who cares who it is at this stage.
    More important, is who will be the Bok Coach. I am hearing rumblings about Gert Smal?

  • 38.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:10 am

    @justrugby(justrugby)-32: he could of been a brilliant replacement for Flo….

  • 39.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:11 am

    @BULLET(BULLET)-35: nah mate…..heard Hoskins may be heading for top post with IRB….and CW will be in running….but all conjecture and speculation…..just making Brice swallow hard there in Arsestralia

  • 40.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:13 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-36: hahaha

    Dude you said “beaver”…..

    Cue beavis and buthead laugh,,,,

    huh huh huh huh …….

  • 41.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:14 am

    @BULLET(BULLET)-37: Smal would not have my blessing…….but he would be better than ACand Rassie……

    I am still hopeful that either Mitchell or Mallet will get it…..

    Very little news or speculation on that front SARU playing cards close to there chest it seems…..

    Agree about captaincy

    Coach job is crucial

  • 42.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:17 am

    @grant10(grant10)-39:

    The only hard swallowing happening is at your place on weekends with Justbuggery… neither Watson nor his crim father will get further than the Kings (who still cannot win their lowly league…

  • 43.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:20 am

    I wonder if Patricia de Lille and her rugby committee at Cape Town City Council watched the Sarries game on Saturday. Probably not, but if they did they might now wonder whether this team would really be such a great “tourist attraction” to CT. They looked Uber kak to me- doubt whether they will even beat Boland on a wet afternoon in Wellington.

  • 44.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:21 am

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-42: you will do well to avoid saying things like that in front of either JR or myself…..ever.

    You may well it hard swallowing front teeth and the odd molar…., especially as they will be your own.

  • 45.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:22 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-43: Plod now started 2

    lost 2

    I will be keeping notes

  • 46.Big Hit: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:23 am

    Don’t understand the views of some, Flo and Watson are good club players, Smit and Matfield are test legends. There’s no comparison. Burger or Smith are the best candidates to lead SA next season.

  • 47.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:23 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-43: I was looking forward to watching the game, but was badly dissapointed (as usual) with both the style and quality of rugby played up North.

    Having said that, I would have gone to the game. i would have preferred to have gone to the CT Stadium but would still have gone to Newlands if it was hosted there.

  • 48.poppa69: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:28 am

    @grant10(grant10)-41: of course SARU are playing it close..

    theyre waiting for PDV’s new “style of rugby” to be finalised so they can re-appoint him..

    he has unfinished business and is the best candidate for the job..

    (heard it here first)

  • 49.Hondo: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:29 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-10:
    It’s my note too from watching the game
    The props let him down, when Carsten (50 min) and Stevens (half time) came on it was a different game.
    Sarries FH was kicking away posession aimlessly all day, they should hang on to Hougaart if you ask me

  • 50.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:33 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-47:

    The Samoan centre from the Saints (Pisi) was just about the only player who caught my eye.

    Re Newlands versus CT– same here, but I have sympathy for the WP administrators in this particular case- on the longer run it will probably have to be the CT stadium – unless they cut their losses and break it down as some architects and even economists have already suggested :)

  • 51.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:33 am

    :lol:

    cheeky has got more chance of leading the ANC youth league than he does of taking charge at SARU.

    As for lukas whatsembi…. he’s found his place at the kings.

    leave him he’s happy

    :lol:

  • 52.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:33 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-46: concern yourself with matters of a pom nature….

    seems you okes got a lot of your own issues to sort out…

  • 53.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:34 am

    @Upho(ufo)-16: Bwaaaaaaaahaaaaa…
    Priceless! :) Good one Ufo.

    How you buddy?

  • 54.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:35 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-50: Agreed, They need to cut the best deal they can though and not be bullied into taking over the city’s white elephant.

  • 55.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:37 am

    @grant10(grant10)-44:

    Oh no I’m shaking in my boots… internet ‘worrier’…

  • 56.Hondo: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:38 am

    @Roar my Lions …. Currie Cup Champions 2011(RL)-21:
    4 times to be honest, but Smit had no support from his props so he was isolated
    With Matt Stevens on and later Carsten, they dominated the Saints who were scoreless 2nd half, you missed that one too!

  • 57.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:38 am

    Anyhoo…..

    I have a 10h30 tee off.

    Wind looks a little better today.

    Not a bad way to start the week I guess.

    See y’all later.

    Much later :)

  • 58.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:40 am

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-55:

    The prober will stab you in the plums with his walking stick.

  • 59.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:40 am

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-5: Exactly.

  • 60.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:41 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-57:

    Lifestyles of the rich and famous.

  • 61.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:43 am

    @Dawn(Dawn)-60: Networking Dawn ;)

  • 62.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:44 am

    @Dawn(Dawn)-60: Morning Dawn,

    I answered your question last week about Gayle, but doubt you saw it on your Blackberry.

    Not sure why Gayle is not playing for the Dolphins and now playing in Zim. Have no idea. Thought he was coming to play for Dolphins.

  • 63.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:45 am

    @stormersboy(stormersboy)-61: Enjoy your golf buddy.

  • 64.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:47 am

    @Puma(Puma)-62:

    Loots Bosman is keeping him out of the Dolphins side so he took the easy way out :)

  • 65.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:55 am

    @Puma(Puma)-62:

    Chris Gayle is the second laziest cricketer ever
    It’s either a boundary and only occasionally he would walk slowly through for a single.
    Only Graeme Pollock was lazier- he even skipped on the singles.

  • 66.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 09:57 am

    Kyra Sedgewick has got to have the sexiest mouth I have seen !

  • 67.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:01 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-65: Yeah but he mostly gets the boundaries…lol.

    He soooooooo laid back that oke….hahaha.

    Thought he was coming to the Dolphins, but see he is playing in Zim. Not sure what has happened, or if he is coming later to play for us. Have no idea.

  • 68.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:02 am

    @grant10(grant10)-66:

    Jessica Alba

  • 69.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:02 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-64: Could be… :)

  • 70.Gunther: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:04 am

    what to could loots bosman ever keep chris gayle out of?

  • 71.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:07 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-68: dont know Alba.

    On channel 119 now…Kyra…

    fark me….what a mouth!

  • 72.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:08 am

    @Puma(Puma)-67:

    Most of the windies are like that.
    I once watched some test match action in the Caribbian (on TV) and there was a huge delay as a spectator took about 10 minutes to walk past the sight screen.
    It turned out to be the ex fast bowler Curtly Ambrose who decided to go and visit some mates who were sitting on the other side.
    Huge shades- huge smile- huge gold chain around the neck – not a care in the world and in no hurry at all.

  • 73.Puma: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:13 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-72: hahahahaha. Yeah they all laid back. Actually the way to live ones life. You live longer if you relaxed and have not a worry in the world to rush.

    I still have the Joburg in me……hahaha. Rush everywhere. Time to be laid back…..hahahaha. Much slower here so should be.

  • 74.cane: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:16 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-72:

    “Huge shades- huge smile- huge gold chain around the neck – not a care in the world and in no hurry at all.”

    Yeah,………………………………… we got people like that too, Robbie.
    Fried brains most of them as well.

    8)

  • 75.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:23 am

    @cane(cane)-74:

    I read he is nowadays a guitarist in a reggae band called the “Big Bad Dread and the Baldhead”. Richie Richardson is also in the band.
    They probably burn a few together too, lol.

  • 76.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:27 am

    @Robzim(Robzim)-72: i remember than game, he was wearing a vest and sporting think dreadlocks on his head. he was even smiling when he recognised he was stalling the game. a sure he was “lifted” at the time.

  • 77.Robzim: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:33 am

    @Transformation(Transformation)-76:

    Same game, I remember the vest.
    Cool dude indeed but absolutely lethal during his time as a pace bowler
    Often he was unplayable delivering the ball from that height.

  • 78.Yetirat: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:40 am

    Pat Barnard was an animal when he was coming up through the ranks. Such a pitty he just faded away overseas.

  • 79.Yetirat: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 10:43 am

    @Big Hit(Big Hit)-17: Biggles what level of accountability should Rob Andrew be taking then? Because when MJ resigned he took absolutely none.

  • 80.Tacitus: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 11:27 am

    Grant10

    Why you always so angry? Is it the Klingon part of your ancestry?

  • 81.BULLET: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 11:31 am

    Something interresting for today:

    h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRB_Hall_of_Fame

  • 82.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 11:31 am

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-80: angry?

    Me?

    Why?

    I may ask why you so DEFINITE?

  • 83.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 12:38 pm

    @bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-5: Brendan Venter was their coach at the time and some here want him as Bok coach :roll:

  • 84.Sasuke: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 13:44 pm

    Why dont the Boks use some of these players when touring overseas? Pick a team of 18 local based players and about 8 overseas based players. They will provide valuable insight into playing conditions and player opposition. They will also be fresher than the local guys. Just a thought.

  • 85.PissAnt: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 13:58 pm

    Brendan Venter named as U/20 Bok assistant coach together with Nazeem Adams.

  • 86.Upho: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 14:07 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-53:

    Hey Puma…

    Glad you liked it… !! :lol:

    Always good thanks bud… The grass is always greener of my side…!! ;)

    Sorry… been out of office most of the morning…

  • 87.Upho: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 14:09 pm

    @Puma(Puma)-53:

    Trust you’re well too…?

    Although after an OD of rugby from the world cup… i can see the signs of withdrawal symptoms in all of us here… and we’re talking even more k@k than we usually do.. ;)

    :lol:

  • 88.j59: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 14:23 pm

    Heh….. with Saracens, they should start John Smit and then bring Schalk Brits on for the last 10-15 minutes

  • 89.grant10: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 15:44 pm

    @j59(j59)-88: are you befok???

  • 90.kwas: Reply to this comment
    28 Nov 2011, 19:56 pm

    The John Smit cancer has infected the Saracens after only a couple of matches. Wait until he takes over the coaching …

  • 91.j59: Reply to this comment
    29 Nov 2011, 03:30 am

    @grant10(grant10)-89: ok, no more jokey jokey then grant

Keo.co.za has always promoted uncensored views, but has never tolerated racist or crass outbursts. Come on guys and girls. If you can't moderate yourselves or each other then I am going to be forced to regulate the posts and enforce a registration process for comments. The choice is yours.

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