Hung out to die

Hung out to die

RYAN VREDE, writing in Business Day Sport Monthly, says the late Solly Tyibilika was always fighting a losing battle.

Solly Tyibilika’s career died long before his life ended. Indeed, a strong argument can be made that his life ended because his career died.

The why and how are important in equal measure when reflecting on his career and life. Why Tyibilika, who, by all accounts, had become mixed up with elicitors of trouble, was murdered in a hail of bullets in a Gugelethu shebeen on a Sunday afternoon, was still under investigation at the time of writing. How the 32-year-old went from crossing the tryline on debut for the Springboks in 2004 to lying in police chalk lines seven years later, is compelling. It is the rugby tragedy of our time.

I was lunching with a Springbok and former team-mate of Tyibilika’s at the time the news of his death broke. As details of its nature emerged – a calculated, gang-style hit that saw his body pumped with what an eye witness deemed ‘countless shots’ – his reaction struck me as strange. Tyibilika’s violent end was not unexpected. Through at least 20 text messages the player showed me it became apparent that this sentiment was shared by even those players who were closest to him. Certainly his death was lamented in these messages, but it was telling that most senders were not particularly surprised by its nature.

‘When Solly felt cared for he was invested in his career and determined to succeed,’ the player said. ‘When he felt hard done by he could be pretty self-destructive.’

There were to be increasing instances when his emotional immaturity manifested in this manner as his career progressed. But this wasn’t always so. Tyibilika caught the Sharks’ eye in 2003 off the back of impressive performances for Griquas. He would establish himself as a regular member of their Super Rugby squad – his pace, upper-body strength, work rate and robust approach placing him among the top openside flankers in the country at the time. He lacked the finesse, guile, vision and tactical appreciation that separated the good scavengers from the great ones, but attained a level of consistency that appealed to Springbok coach Jake White in late 2004.

There were muted grumbles of a political agenda when Tyibilika was named in White’s end-of-year tour squad. However, the overriding feeling was that Tyibilika had the potential to develop into a more than competent Test player.

He acquitted himself well on debut against Scotland at Murrayfield, becoming the first black African to score a try for the Springboks. He started against Argentina in Buenos Aires a week later and maintained a high enough standard domestically in 2005 to be a part of White’s squad for the Test season. There had been little evidence to support rhetoric about the wealth of world-class black talent in Tyibilika’s home province, the Eastern Cape. Tyibilika, it appeared, would be a groundbreaker in this regard, particularly since he was a forward, a rare commodity in a region renowned for producing backline players.

Then something happened that hinted at a delinquent demon that would surface with greater and lesser degrees of intensity as his career progressed. The Springboks staged a Test in East London against Uruguay. Tyibilika scored twice in the 134-3 rout and later invited friends who had travelled from his hometown, New Brighton, up to his hotel room to share a celebratory drink. He left three days later, having missed the team’s flight to Durban and depleting most of his not inconsiderable match fee.

Still, there were glimpses of brilliance that inspired. A month later Tyibilika would outplay Australian George Smith in a Tri-Nations Test at Ellis Park, before being injured and substituted at half-time by Schalk Burger.

The Springboks won 33-20 but Tyibilika only featured in the southern hemisphere showpiece again a year later, playing in losing sides in three Tests,  although not looking an impostor in elevated company. This was particularly pertinent, given that in a post-match press conference a week before, White had intimated that Tyibilika was included because of the colour of his skin. There was a clamour for the in-form Luke Watson’s inclusion after the Springboks suffered a 49-0 defeat to Australia in Brisbane, but White explained his decision to go with Tyibilika, in light of Danie Rossouw’s tour-ending injury, saying: ‘We need to be honest about sensitivities of the make-up of the team and show that transformation is happening in our country. We have got a guy like Solly on tour. There is a relationship in a team structure and we need to be considerate to that dynamic between the players.’

In Burger’s injury-enforced absence White later called Tyibilika the best openside flank in the country prior to the Loftus Test against New Zealand. The 47 minutes Tyibilika played in that heavy defeat would be his last for the Springboks.

This had much to do with a move to the Lions in 2007, one, he said, necessitated by the lack of game time he was getting in Durban. Breaking into the World Cup squad was his top priority and White had offered assurances that he was in the planning for the tournament. Eager to make a good impression on his new employers, Tyibilika trained relentlessly in the off-season and was unrivalled in the conditioning stakes when tests were conducted in camps in preparation for the Super Rugby campaign. However, his contribution amounted to little more than hit-outs in a couple of pre-season friendlies. Deemed surplus to requirements, Tyibilika was relegated to the Vodacom Cup side, where, he claimed, the coach wasn’t aware of his demotion and not prepared to integrate him into his plans. Thus began Tyibilika’s descent, marked by regular absenteeism and an ever-declining appetite for the game and its demands. His hunger for hedonism grew in direct proportion. He was relegated to club rugby. This a year after playing the All Blacks. The Lions released him from his R700 000-a-year contract. His ambition of breaking into the World Cup squad lay in tatters. He would end up watching the final in an East London shebeen.

The South African Rugby Union (Saru) made weak attempts at rehabilitating a man it once claimed to have great faith in. The Lions are even more culpable. Certainly Tyibilika must not be mitigated for his self-destructive behaviour, but he was failed by those who professed to have his interests at heart.

He is not alone in this regard. There have been varying levels of incompetence and irresponsibility in Saru’s dealings with black players specifically. Top South African coach Heyneke Meyer relayed the story of Chiliboy Ralepelle and Hilton Lobberts’ selection to tour Europe with the Springboks in 2006 to me. Ralepelle and Lobberts were among the best in their positions in the world at U19 level. Prior to their announcement in the squad Meyer pleaded with Saru not to take them, citing their emotional and physical immaturity and stressing that they would be better equipped two years from then.

Lobberts is said to have blown the R400 000 he made on two Volkswagen GTIs, supporting Meyer’s former assertion. He hasn’t played for South Africa in five years and hasn’t looked close to doing so. Ralepelle struggled with recurring injuries thereafter, lending support to the latter offering. He also suffered at the hands of national coaches who told the world he was rugby royalty, but treated him like a leper.

There are others who exhibited a capacity to overcome setbacks, former Springbok wing Ashwin Willemse being the prime example. Despite being plagued by injuries, Willemse  refused to allow his spirit to be killed. He regained fitness and was included in the 2007 World Cup squad. He now has a burgeoning career as an analyst on SuperSport that is far removed from the path his life could have followed had he opted to surrender to Hope’s assassin and return to the drug and gang culture that was a feature of his childhood. Tyibilika didn’t possess Willemse’s immense resolve. His tendency for self-sabotage demanded that he had a strong mentor, even a team of them, who could constantly reinforce his value, celebrate his talent and be prepared to talk hard when needed. In addition, he also needed brutal honesty and a clearly defined goal from his coaches. Instead he found the validation and emotional investment he sought from men who fuelled the beast within.

There is no question that Tyibilika was a fundamentally good man whose life course diverted from a route that promised a rich legacy to one that led to a premature and deeply saddening end. But that alone doesn’t warrant bringing his story into the national consciousness.

There are lessons in Tyibilika’s life and his violent death that must be heeded by the game’s administrators. History reflects that professional black athletes, specifically those from low socio-economic backgrounds, are more prone to delinquency than their white counterparts. A range of explanations has been offered for this, the primary one being the former’s generally underdeveloped emotional intelligence and life skills which compromises their capacity to adequately deal with their ascent from paupers to princes. This rings true for South African rugby players, where that division between privileged and poor is even more pronounced.

This is the stark education that Tyibilika’s story must provide. It is utterly unacceptable that 16 years into the professional era the game’s administrators still haven’t established a world-class programme that focuses on equipping young black players with the skills needed to negotiate challenges they will encounter in their careers. This must be an issue that commands immediate attention.

Tyibilika possessed some measure of fight even in the last moments, dragging his bullet-riddled body across the ground for a couple of metres in search of help. His physical wounds ultimately proved to be mortal, but the mental wounds he incurred in the latter part of his professional career had long since killed his spirit. How different it could all have been had someone cared for him enough to make his mind bulletproof.

– This article appears in the January issue of Business Day Sport Monthly, on sale now at selected outlets


454 Comments

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  • 201.cab: Reply to this comment

    ooohhh hel, thats a letdown, thats not original, thats the same old arrogant scientist horseshite u bunch on snakeoil charlatans been proclaiming since time immemorial and the scientist aint never persecuted no hippie nor no watachatutu, not in the warlike sense, its u fundamental single-focuses fkers why fly into buildings, if only it were on your magic carpets, dm fk twatpielpoes.

  • 202.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    bring that original thought man.. what the fck IS your original thought… bring it.. don’t pretend it.. where you hiding it.. where IS your pathetic morose idiotic ‘Original f’ng Thought’ where the fck is it.. You wouldn’t know an ‘original thought’ if it slid up and bit you on your pathetic moronic dumb fck non knowing materialist pseudo scientific arsehole… you dumb fck moronic bullshitting idiotic unknowing who the fck you are doos…

  • 203.cab: Reply to this comment

    i’m not the kenner, you are, you are the one who knows all the answers, you have said so, so come now, just one, tell us who we all are, thats an easy one, come on.

  • 204.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    if that hippie would tell you the TRUTH you STILL wouldn’t believe him because you are stuffed up THICK like a f’ng impregnable cloud of soot that got blindness all fckd around your deaf dumb and blind materialist dead end head…

    Go listen to that prickarse moronic stupefied dunce Dawkins and his lot of pseudo arse idiots that know absolutely sweet fanny fckall about who the fck they are.. where they from.. or where the fck they going to… same as the dunce arse idiots like you.. who know just as little as them… about ANYTHING whatsoever worth knowing….

    you moronic mesmerized dumb deaf and blind fckd up stupefied dead end dunce…

  • 205.cab: Reply to this comment

    but wtf is this secrecy all about, christus almighty, why is the holy of holies such a secret, i mean u been angling on here most nights with the bait, cant you at least give us some answers ekse…stop the bullshit, lets hear it, put it out there, why dont you actually make a statement for once rather than detracting from everyone else like the all-knowking kenner you are? come on man tell us who we are, thats like real easy for you.

  • 206.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    yip I know all the answers and its eating you up alive cos you wanna know them too but you just too chicken to search where they actually are to be found.. you so fckng chicken thats why you not a scientists f’ng A hole.. if you were a true sincere scientist you would be inquiring where it MATTERS about who the fck you are.. where the fck you come from and where the fck you might be going to from here….

  • 207.cab: Reply to this comment

    what fkn arrogance, someone claiming to know who others are. my god and its the scientist that is arrogant, get serious, thats your own ****. come on walk the talk, tell us who we all are. what is so hard about that. i want to know, pretty please, tell us who we are, i listen with open ears and soot-swept mind to old grand Bullshitter supreme, pretty please, spit it out.

  • 208.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    John the Baptist.. now that was a real true hippie.. one the all time real knowing kenner hippies of all time.. go read up a little bitty what he had to say.. about wtf you possibly are doing here in this godforsaken skin you dunno why you been straight jacketed in….

  • 209.cab: Reply to this comment

    ***** ****** if i get any more questions i going to write to socrates, i dont want questions, i want answers, cant u even give one fkn answer? just one, aggetogplease asb, just one.

  • 210.cab: Reply to this comment

    ok, so u know the answers, fine, can u give me one?

    no bullshit, i dont want more questions, just one answer.

    yessus this fkn doos is one dumfk.

  • 211.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    yip unfortunately for you I got all the answers.. they buried right inside this kop cos I seen the truth clear as daylight.. right in front these old hippified eyes I seen it as clear as day … now you wanna know the same old clear as day reality.. go seek it where you can find it.. and here a little secret for you… nope you won’t find it on keo.co.za

  • 212.cab: Reply to this comment

    ok great, can u tell me then, just one.

    spit it out ekse, let us hear what u know.

    You have the knowledge, impart it O Great Fartarse.

  • 213.cab: Reply to this comment

    mein godt the **** u have convinced yourself of, its so fkn barmey even u dont have the conviction to spit it out. why? especially if its true?

  • 214.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    you want truth go seek it where you gonna find it.. not here.. truth does NOT get spelled out for dumb fck dunces like you or anyone else over here…

    where is your sense of respectability.. do you honestly think I gonna spell the truth out for schmucks such as likes of those who DON’T wanna hear it over here??

    Catch a goddam f’ng WAKE UP already.. its getting WAY too late even for dumb moron dunce klutzes such as poor pathetic materialist arseholes such as you…

  • 215.cab: Reply to this comment

    listen either you know the answers or you dont. You have said you do, so why you not spit it out?

    where is your sense of sincerity?

  • 216.cab: Reply to this comment

    i guarentee u everyone wants to hear the Truth according to Ashampoopaloo, why not help us all?

  • 217.cab: Reply to this comment

    bullshitter supreme at the end of the day.

    just total bullshit – what kind of a mean-spirited hippie withholds the kind of knowledge that could change humanity?

    this is goddamn not on.

  • 218.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    you don’t wanna know else you would have found out already.. and no you wrong.. not everyone wanna know.. that for absolute sure.. if they would wanna know for one thing they gonna have to change a hell of a lot about themselves.. so no… nobody actually wants to know.. not even you do…else you would seek to know what you too chicken to find out about yourself…

    if you reckon you a real true scientist then you will follow the yellow brick road to the wizard of Oz… and find out whats bugging you so.. thats if you really wanna know.. which I not too sure you do … and if you don’t.. well then just carry on carrying on.. listening to arsehole imbecile schmucks like Richard Dawkins who don’t know squat about anything while pretending they such great original thinking dumb fck intellects who actually know sweet fanny fckall about anything worth knowing… else they too would have found it out by now…

    you on your own kiddo find out the way to the yellow brick road and see if you can get out this labyrinth of a mystery called ‘life’…

  • 219.cab: Reply to this comment

    ***** h ******, what i gotta to do, to get just one straight answer?

    is this really what its come down to, that u really are absolutely just full of hot air?

  • 220.cab: Reply to this comment

    old oompie ou doos, wont give me no answers, and i try and i try and i try, but i cant get no…satisfaction. no no no…

  • 221.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    I know the answers.. and they mine to know… you wanna know them.. find them out for yourself.. that’s if you got the guts and sincere truth seeking honesty to .. that’s if you do.. but somehow I doubt it that you do…balls in your court…and its your turn to play for an ace for yourself and no one else… if you got the guts and sincerity for that…

  • 222.cab: Reply to this comment

    thats not fkn fair, why u no humanitarian, i thought u fellas were here to help humanity?
    this is a pisspoor effort on your part. unfknacceptable!

  • 223.cab: Reply to this comment

    the guts for what? tell me what we gotta do, look i aint running over a field of broken glass kaalgat, i dont care which spirit u think u can invoke.

  • 224.cab: Reply to this comment

    gotta hit the sack.
    very amusing, u are fkn mad.
    night night.

  • 225.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    I like the story of the deep sea fisherman,, I think I told it here once before.. how he sits in the ocean in his little boat waiting for the marlin to take the bait.. then eventually marlin bites and the hook gets buried in his nose.. and the fisherman knows he can’t reel the heavy strong marlin in or he’ll break the line.. so he lets him run.. and marlin runs.. to the depths of the bottom of the ocean and out the water he soars and dives again and again.. and pulls the fisherman and his boat way out to sea.. but fisherman just lets him run and run.. till marlin gets tired out….

    and all the time the hook is buried in marlins nose.. eventually marlin is tired out.. but he can’t get loose of the hook embedded in his aching nose.. so what does the marlin do… the pain in his nose has become so compelling that he swims toward the boat to alleviate the pain.. to his inevitable death.. and his head to get chopped off…

    that the story of all those who wanna know the truth or the way home…

    moral of the story.. don’t take the bait.. if you value your head so much.. or your dumb fck self styled ‘original thinking’ intellectual independence… don’t take the bait… LEAVE it ALONE

  • 226.cab: Reply to this comment

    yeah yeah, if only that were true, but we both know its not. u swallowed your own bait long time back, take that whatever way you want, but thats sincerity. u cast and u got no answers, a fisher of fishes and a fisher of men, but just hot air end of the day, bullshit from start to finish, nothing wrong with indulging, but bullshit nevertheless, the only one u hooked is yourself, i aint joint up to the magic carpet club.

  • 227.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    little do you know.. and little do you prefer to know.. that is the answer.. you don’t wanna know its your own failure to see and failure to hear.. and your own blindness not wanting to know… I never cast nothing.. I ain’t the caster .. the story of the fisherman ain’t about me.. its the story about those who take the bait.. and you still a coward.. because you wanna take the bait but you too chicken coward to… and then you pretend you know whats cooking .. which you don’t..

    you so stupefied proud of absolutely nothing… there is nothing worth holding so dear to stupefied ignorant pride for.. not your dumb fck so called original thought which don’t exist…

    if you got no questions then why you ask them..? You still way too proud to set your pathetic dumb arrogant intellect aside and find out the fact of who you are and what you might be wanting from life… stupid ignorance is blissful blindness riddled fool…

  • 228.man1a: Reply to this comment

    old man and the sea. good book

  • 229.bryce_in_oz: Reply to this comment

    Ah the aging RDP slave-labourer bread-and-water paying bakkie-bouer preaching he is the omnipresent-kenner-of-all moralistic fibre evolution… what a joke!

  • 230.the artist formerly known as gunther: Reply to this comment

    Hahaha….

    This is like Waiting for Godot.

    But better.

    Anyway time for a walk on the beach.

    Good news if you are an insomniac, its only two sleeps til Christmas.

  • 231.Michael: Reply to this comment

    @cab-179: Nah puke-a-shampoo is part of the far-loony-left; me, I am center-left.

  • 232.Upho: Reply to this comment

    @the artist formerly known as gunther-230:

    hehehe…

    a very apt observation…

    and for many many debates/conversations/arguments that occur on keo…

    i will find it difficult NOT to think of Vladimir and Estragon in future on keo…

    :lol:

  • 233.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment

    @ashampoopaloo-119:

    Like the rest of us he sees forced quotas as a spoke in the wheel for progressive rugby.

    Even duh Villiers could see that.

  • 234.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment

    Skoppie has lost so many plots since I first encountered him on keo that surely SARS must be suspicious by now.

  • 235.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    what a shame the well heeled can’t see sh’t for trees.. its quite a wonder they still allow this dubious dead ended education to kill the natural awe and inspiration in young human children… by the time they are university going age they already half way dead to any conceptual inquiry or intuition…

    Its no wonder talking to dumb fck materialistically educated dunce arse pseudo scientists is same as talking directly to a stone… or a rock

    If ever there was a case of pearls before swine… this is it..

  • 236.man1a: Reply to this comment

    Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school
    -Einstein

  • 237.cab: Reply to this comment

    got nothing to do with well-heeled or educated, some people want evidence to support claims to knowledge, others don’t. you can believe whatever you want, makes no difference to anyone else, but you going to claim you privy to some special evidence, put up or shut up, otherwise its just alot of bullshit.

  • 238.j59: Reply to this comment

    This Solly story seems to be more about booze and dwelms, than transformation and support ne. To go missing for days or even weeks suggests this much. Not much you can do really

    ….And guys, if you have to classify your beliefs as some sort of left-centre , right, blah blah….then certainly the system already has you!

  • 239.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    I don’t owe you nor anyone any evidence.. my evidence is my own and nor you nor anyone can own it…. you want evidence I told you once I told you a thousand times find it for yourself.. same as Einstein or Pythagoras or Galileo or Newton or Ptolemy or Zarathustra or Hazrat Inayat Khan did… neither their knowledge nor their evidence is available to you… only that which you can safely experience and witness directly yourself can you call true.. all else is outright false fanciful and fake.

    If at all you classify yourself as a truly inquiring scientist then you will take up the challenge of life.. which is to discover the science of knowing that which breathes through your brain and through your veins, otherwise your so called dead intellectual hypotheses are all decidedly and inexorably absolutely false and fake.

  • 240.man1a: Reply to this comment

    @j59-238: democracy is powerful tool where the most can be successful. however the most isnt every1 and i think this article is pointing out that a section of the populace isnt ready to deal with capitilism yet and need to nurtured ,looked after and educated.
    its not about solly’s alcholism but about learning that being a good/great rugby player doesnt neccesarily mean that you have the right coping mechanisms for life. for us its natural but for solly it probably felt like a dyslexic stuck in a library.
    not a blame game but showing how through ignorance a great player was lost

  • 241.cab: Reply to this comment

    No one wants your evidence or anyone’s else’s for that matter without evidence, that is their own, they can think they JC his goodself, and many of them do, for all i care, but that dont make it true, in fact it makes it false, which is exactly the point.

  • 242.cab: Reply to this comment

    wtf every loon in groendakkies directly experiencing? hell, ward no 1 contains, JC, sandwiched rights between Newton and his best mate the Buddha. What you think their direct experiences are true? When leary was popping acid like smarties and thought his poephal was falling off or that he could walk on water, you think his direct experience was true? When you experience a situation, any situation, you experience it through your subjective mind, which is prone to error, or more accurately, to interpreting information based on its own personal subjective conditioning. In other words, YOUR experience is precisely that, it is not objective reality, it is often not what is truth or what is real, but what YOU believe to be true and real.

  • 243.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    if you got no experience you got nothing, all you ever have or had is your experience and nothing but that. This life you live is precisely all that it is which is experience, not your subjective intellectual learning which means absolutely f’all in the scheme of your existence. Your existence is about your experience and not about anyone else’s and that is the sole purpose of your birth life and death, to experience, not to read or compare notes about somebody else’s.

  • 244.j59: Reply to this comment

    @man1a-240: …when I think of
    “us”, solly is certainly with me….buuut anyhoo, alls I was saying is that if you love partying and booze and drugs, any so-called support is just a nuisance. Horse and water kind of thing

  • 245.cab: Reply to this comment

    You get experience in any case, no matter what you do, you experience life through your subjective filter, everyone’s set of experiences is unique and different, which is in turn why they see the world uniqely and differently through their own lens with its biases and conditioning. The world exists whether we experience it or not, each of us glimpses just a small and subjectively filtered aspect of that world. By comparing notes, as you put it, it is possible to at least expand your subjective filter slightly wider to encompass a different perspective. However, in terms of ascertaining what is real or not, instead of what we like to believe what is real or not, it is completely irrelvant which perspective you follow if it is not anchored in some way to reality, i.e. by being backed up with objective verifable evidence, not subjective experience.

  • 246.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    you got no idea as to what real experience is from subjective experience, in short you talking crapp. Your conditioning is such that your mind and lenses of perception are shut fast through your conditioned subjective filters that you think are your own original thoughts when they are not original nor your thoughts in the slightest, but conditioned presumption about what others have spoon fed you to believe. You are so absolutely conditioned by fear of opening your thoughts to reality that you stay bound to illusion. In other words your subjective indoctrinated conditioning prevents you from experiencing reality and all your so called ‘knowledge’ is what others have informed you or told you but you have relatively little original thinking or original experience of your own. Your education has strapped you to conditioned filters of pre supposed prognosis like a mental straight jacket to such extent that you actually need shock therapy to jolt you out your conditioned subjective blinded deaf and dumb so called educated stupor.

  • 247.cab: Reply to this comment

    Every single human being is conditioned, there is no escaping it. You talking total **** as if u capable of channelling some special knowledge of hoe? Who u fking think is thinking YOUR thoughts – spookasem Steiner or what? U honestly believe u channeling the universe of iets. Whatafknchop. And u the one without the ego don’t make me laugh. Told u already tell us one thing about the world that is new. Those pesky scientists u decry make new discoveries every single day and announce them fir all to check. You lot sit back all smug and allknowing and yet can’t produce one single shred of knowledge. Nothing. Why? Why u want to hog your knowledge like that? For what purpose?

    Newton made a discovery about the universe, something that could be proved, that is what he was rightly heralded for so that our understand of the universe was increased. He was not heralded for his spiritual or religious beliefs cos they were ****. Every single person of the time had those views cos that was their conditioning just the same as your little blighters would have been brought up on a diet of watchatutu hippie nonsense, which is fine, but there ain’t zero truth to any of it.

  • 248.man1a: Reply to this comment

    @j59-244: yeah. got paid all that money but no one told/taught him how to be a professional. a great loss that shouldnt have happened.

  • 249.ashampoopaloo: Reply to this comment

    you a waste of time. You an imbecile that got zero clue about anything. You stupid ignorant idiot are so screw up conditioned with your lack of knowledge its downright chronic. Stop wasting my time and find out wtf you are doing inhabiting a human body. You are so pathetically indoctrinated with your outright lack of knowledge ignorance just go find out for yourself what you doing living as human on this planet.

  • 250.cab: Reply to this comment

    eating the biltong?

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