Hung out to die
16 Dec 2011
RYAN VREDE, writing in Business Day Sport Monthly, says the late Solly Tyibilika was always fighting a losing battle.
Solly Tyibilika’s career died long before his life ended. Indeed, a strong argument can be made that his life ended because his career died.
The why and how are important in equal measure when reflecting on his career and life. Why Tyibilika, who, by all accounts, had become mixed up with elicitors of trouble, was murdered in a hail of bullets in a Gugelethu shebeen on a Sunday afternoon, was still under investigation at the time of writing. How the 32-year-old went from crossing the tryline on debut for the Springboks in 2004 to lying in police chalk lines seven years later, is compelling. It is the rugby tragedy of our time.
I was lunching with a Springbok and former team-mate of Tyibilika’s at the time the news of his death broke. As details of its nature emerged – a calculated, gang-style hit that saw his body pumped with what an eye witness deemed ‘countless shots’ – his reaction struck me as strange. Tyibilika’s violent end was not unexpected. Through at least 20 text messages the player showed me it became apparent that this sentiment was shared by even those players who were closest to him. Certainly his death was lamented in these messages, but it was telling that most senders were not particularly surprised by its nature.
‘When Solly felt cared for he was invested in his career and determined to succeed,’ the player said. ‘When he felt hard done by he could be pretty self-destructive.’
There were to be increasing instances when his emotional immaturity manifested in this manner as his career progressed. But this wasn’t always so. Tyibilika caught the Sharks’ eye in 2003 off the back of impressive performances for Griquas. He would establish himself as a regular member of their Super Rugby squad – his pace, upper-body strength, work rate and robust approach placing him among the top openside flankers in the country at the time. He lacked the finesse, guile, vision and tactical appreciation that separated the good scavengers from the great ones, but attained a level of consistency that appealed to Springbok coach Jake White in late 2004.
There were muted grumbles of a political agenda when Tyibilika was named in White’s end-of-year tour squad. However, the overriding feeling was that Tyibilika had the potential to develop into a more than competent Test player.
He acquitted himself well on debut against Scotland at Murrayfield, becoming the first black African to score a try for the Springboks. He started against Argentina in Buenos Aires a week later and maintained a high enough standard domestically in 2005 to be a part of White’s squad for the Test season. There had been little evidence to support rhetoric about the wealth of world-class black talent in Tyibilika’s home province, the Eastern Cape. Tyibilika, it appeared, would be a groundbreaker in this regard, particularly since he was a forward, a rare commodity in a region renowned for producing backline players.
Then something happened that hinted at a delinquent demon that would surface with greater and lesser degrees of intensity as his career progressed. The Springboks staged a Test in East London against Uruguay. Tyibilika scored twice in the 134-3 rout and later invited friends who had travelled from his hometown, New Brighton, up to his hotel room to share a celebratory drink. He left three days later, having missed the team’s flight to Durban and depleting most of his not inconsiderable match fee.
Still, there were glimpses of brilliance that inspired. A month later Tyibilika would outplay Australian George Smith in a Tri-Nations Test at Ellis Park, before being injured and substituted at half-time by Schalk Burger.
The Springboks won 33-20 but Tyibilika only featured in the southern hemisphere showpiece again a year later, playing in losing sides in three Tests, although not looking an impostor in elevated company. This was particularly pertinent, given that in a post-match press conference a week before, White had intimated that Tyibilika was included because of the colour of his skin. There was a clamour for the in-form Luke Watson’s inclusion after the Springboks suffered a 49-0 defeat to Australia in Brisbane, but White explained his decision to go with Tyibilika, in light of Danie Rossouw’s tour-ending injury, saying: ‘We need to be honest about sensitivities of the make-up of the team and show that transformation is happening in our country. We have got a guy like Solly on tour. There is a relationship in a team structure and we need to be considerate to that dynamic between the players.’
In Burger’s injury-enforced absence White later called Tyibilika the best openside flank in the country prior to the Loftus Test against New Zealand. The 47 minutes Tyibilika played in that heavy defeat would be his last for the Springboks.
This had much to do with a move to the Lions in 2007, one, he said, necessitated by the lack of game time he was getting in Durban. Breaking into the World Cup squad was his top priority and White had offered assurances that he was in the planning for the tournament. Eager to make a good impression on his new employers, Tyibilika trained relentlessly in the off-season and was unrivalled in the conditioning stakes when tests were conducted in camps in preparation for the Super Rugby campaign. However, his contribution amounted to little more than hit-outs in a couple of pre-season friendlies. Deemed surplus to requirements, Tyibilika was relegated to the Vodacom Cup side, where, he claimed, the coach wasn’t aware of his demotion and not prepared to integrate him into his plans. Thus began Tyibilika’s descent, marked by regular absenteeism and an ever-declining appetite for the game and its demands. His hunger for hedonism grew in direct proportion. He was relegated to club rugby. This a year after playing the All Blacks. The Lions released him from his R700 000-a-year contract. His ambition of breaking into the World Cup squad lay in tatters. He would end up watching the final in an East London shebeen.
The South African Rugby Union (Saru) made weak attempts at rehabilitating a man it once claimed to have great faith in. The Lions are even more culpable. Certainly Tyibilika must not be mitigated for his self-destructive behaviour, but he was failed by those who professed to have his interests at heart.
He is not alone in this regard. There have been varying levels of incompetence and irresponsibility in Saru’s dealings with black players specifically. Top South African coach Heyneke Meyer relayed the story of Chiliboy Ralepelle and Hilton Lobberts’ selection to tour Europe with the Springboks in 2006 to me. Ralepelle and Lobberts were among the best in their positions in the world at U19 level. Prior to their announcement in the squad Meyer pleaded with Saru not to take them, citing their emotional and physical immaturity and stressing that they would be better equipped two years from then.
Lobberts is said to have blown the R400 000 he made on two Volkswagen GTIs, supporting Meyer’s former assertion. He hasn’t played for South Africa in five years and hasn’t looked close to doing so. Ralepelle struggled with recurring injuries thereafter, lending support to the latter offering. He also suffered at the hands of national coaches who told the world he was rugby royalty, but treated him like a leper.
There are others who exhibited a capacity to overcome setbacks, former Springbok wing Ashwin Willemse being the prime example. Despite being plagued by injuries, Willemse refused to allow his spirit to be killed. He regained fitness and was included in the 2007 World Cup squad. He now has a burgeoning career as an analyst on SuperSport that is far removed from the path his life could have followed had he opted to surrender to Hope’s assassin and return to the drug and gang culture that was a feature of his childhood. Tyibilika didn’t possess Willemse’s immense resolve. His tendency for self-sabotage demanded that he had a strong mentor, even a team of them, who could constantly reinforce his value, celebrate his talent and be prepared to talk hard when needed. In addition, he also needed brutal honesty and a clearly defined goal from his coaches. Instead he found the validation and emotional investment he sought from men who fuelled the beast within.
There is no question that Tyibilika was a fundamentally good man whose life course diverted from a route that promised a rich legacy to one that led to a premature and deeply saddening end. But that alone doesn’t warrant bringing his story into the national consciousness.
There are lessons in Tyibilika’s life and his violent death that must be heeded by the game’s administrators. History reflects that professional black athletes, specifically those from low socio-economic backgrounds, are more prone to delinquency than their white counterparts. A range of explanations has been offered for this, the primary one being the former’s generally underdeveloped emotional intelligence and life skills which compromises their capacity to adequately deal with their ascent from paupers to princes. This rings true for South African rugby players, where that division between privileged and poor is even more pronounced.
This is the stark education that Tyibilika’s story must provide. It is utterly unacceptable that 16 years into the professional era the game’s administrators still haven’t established a world-class programme that focuses on equipping young black players with the skills needed to negotiate challenges they will encounter in their careers. This must be an issue that commands immediate attention.
Tyibilika possessed some measure of fight even in the last moments, dragging his bullet-riddled body across the ground for a couple of metres in search of help. His physical wounds ultimately proved to be mortal, but the mental wounds he incurred in the latter part of his professional career had long since killed his spirit. How different it could all have been had someone cared for him enough to make his mind bulletproof.
– This article appears in the January issue of Business Day Sport Monthly, on sale now at selected outlets
454 Comments
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26 Dec 2011, 18:28 pm
seems you have an enormous amount of infiltrated pseudo information about how much extra marital punani I been indulging in so where you get your oracle like information dumb fak cn’t you been consulting that fak’d up insincere pathetic pseudo so called fak’d up intuition you pride yourself in? Or you read it up on Wiki where you get all your other fak’d up incongruous infornation. Miserable uselesss ignorant pruden scientific dumb fak
26 Dec 2011, 18:43 pm
u announced right on keo a little while back that you had so many wives and misstesses and were quite proud of it, so i assumed that being a philandering ******* or a braggard aint as bad as being a turkey gobble, otherwise u be up shitcreek without a paddle and massive fkn hyprocrate too,
26 Dec 2011, 18:53 pm
you looking to obviate and condone your fak’d up pseudo insincere barbaric pseudo scientific fak’d up weaknesses on the back of your fak’d us pseudo bullshit compassion and comparisons, who you trying to bullshit you little weasel cunteyed immoral piece of lily livered trash. You need those yellow bellied cunteyed pseudo scientific teeth of yours kicked through the back of your yellow bellied pseudo arsed two faced head
26 Dec 2011, 19:01 pm
LOL, i find your indulging in the extra marital punani very amusing, especially from one who is supposedly above it all materially, u sound like randier oupa than ET at a doggie-paddle swim rally, but thats not what i’m interested in, i;m trying to reconcile this all with your militant opposition to carnivores – why u judge the tirkey gobbler so absolutely as trash, but the two-faced two-timing insincere punani gobbler is not such heinous pigtrash?
26 Dec 2011, 19:13 pm
I’m not interested in your pseudo insincere facade of a bullshit seeking you frivolous little piece of trash cnt. You wanna find out the truth and reality you go seek for it where you think you gonna find it I ain’t your pseudo role model nor your pseudo fak’d up morality standard you piece of sniveling underhand cunteyed piece of miserable two faced trash
26 Dec 2011, 19:16 pm
role model? lmao you about the furthest thing from a role model i or anyone else would ever want. crikey moses your arrogance is unbounded.
26 Dec 2011, 19:25 pm
should i tell you the difference between me and you, i will listen to another viewpoint and even consider it, who knows what i been eating for xmas, whereas you on the other hand wont address your own inconsistancies cos your gargantuan fkn ego will not allow it. So you bullshit yourself and get furious when your ego is inflamed with the truth as it so often is
The hippy at heart is about love, tolerance and peace; you are completely the opposite, you are self-centred, intolerant and controlling. You are fundamentally narrow-minded too a very deep level. In fact, the only thing u actually got in common with the hippy is that you completely divorced from reality.
26 Dec 2011, 19:38 pm
When the dust settles both Skop and Cab will look back and agree what a complete waste of time this dialogue has been for the two concerned…
26 Dec 2011, 19:46 pm
what you come scratching here for and elsewhere you miserable little ignoramus piece of lily livered trash?
I put out facts for **** like you to chew on and you come scratching like the yellow bellied Little chicken arsed insincere trash arse cn’t you are … so whatever you feeble little runtycunt piece of two faced garbage arsecreeping garbage think you know or have your fck’d up morality standards tested is too f’mg bad.. I give a continental fckng hoot about who you wanna try and label me as.. fascist , hippy.. whatsoever your fckd up incongruous idiotic pseudo intellectualized fuckup of a pisswilly pissarsed opinion might be.. you miserable little garbage arsed cn’t face…
You have gotten way more information and benevolent input from this quarter than you piece of trash arsed cn’t deserve… and one day you miserable little rancid piece of cn’teyed rat will appreciate the energy and intent by which it was delivered to you… you feeble little piece of sniveling trasharse cnteyed insincere unscrupulous two faced garbage snotty nosed ignorant dumb fck pseudo arsed punk faced cn’t !!
26 Dec 2011, 19:46 pm
Cab, talking to him without his meds is a waste of time. Go enjoy what’s left of Boxing Day instead.
26 Dec 2011, 19:51 pm
yeah this pisswilly little feeble cunteyed rat is a total waste of fckng time.. and the piece of lily livered trasharse feeble insincere cn’t keeps coming looking for more.. so as long as I breathe I put out the facts.. this little rancid piece of lily arsed cnteyed creep can fck off to wherever the feeble little sewer rat emanated from.. I got fck all to do with the rancid piece of drivel pseudo arsed drek… cab the cn’t can fuckoff right up his pseudo frivolous rancid pathetic piece of trasharse backside where the frivolous cnteyed piece of trash belongs…
26 Dec 2011, 19:55 pm
there are two righteous proper hippy’s on here, they are Robzim and Cane, two of my favourite posters, when they say something i will listen straightaway cos i probably have gone overboard, but u aint no fkn hippy thats for goddamn sure, you have completely missed the point of the entire movement and culture, even tho you preach about it and a whole lot more something fearsome. but what you are unable to grasp is that some ppl will rebel just because of the manner they are told something and that fire&brimstone rubbish is normally the outright marker for a completely false fraud charlatan. Why you put so much energy into it all if it makes no difference to you and you above it all? Its cos you got to flatten down that opposition, that dont make u right, it makes u a kont.
26 Dec 2011, 20:03 pm
@cab-362:
I don’t give tio fckng hoots who you regard as genuine hippies you miserable little fuckarse weasel cnteyed insincere trash heap you wouldn’t know a fckng hippie if you tripped over him in your sleep you frivolous piece of rancidity cnteyed piece of two faced garbage creep…
what you know about ANYTHING worthwhile knowing is ABSOLUTELY sweet fanny FUCKALL you dubious pathetic arsecreeping rancid fckarse weasel two faced cnteyed rat…
You are one pathetic two faced pseudo arsed cunteyed creep bar NONE you pisswilly little know nothing pseudo rancid cn’t … and feeble little cunteyed creeps like you need one mode of medicine only its to get your fucked up piece of trash pseudo arsed highfalutin fucked up opinion shoved straight down that stiff necked non knowing imbecilic pseudo arse trash heap of a fcking arrogant cunteyed ego through your feeble lily arsed two faced yellow pseudo scientific pseudo seeking teeth you miserable two faced runtcunt creep.
26 Dec 2011, 20:04 pm
whose labelling who, you called yourself a hippy, i;m saying u no fkn hippy, u a bullshitter.
26 Dec 2011, 20:05 pm
keep going u fking fascist kont, thats exactly what you are at heart, a guttertrash lout.
26 Dec 2011, 20:09 pm
yip so much for open-mindedness and open expression of ideas, this is the kind of fkr thats caused all the **** thats ever occurred from time immemorial, the narrow-minded tyrant who will try his damndest to get his way thru force and intimation, and u know what else they all invariably kortgat konts too, hitlet, napolean, pol pot, all fkn runtcunt midgets whose gargantuan egos compensated for their physical and mental inadequacies.
26 Dec 2011, 20:12 pm
as if being a hippie is supposed to be some kind of highly sort morality standard.. this fuckup don’t know WTF this cunteyed rat is actually looking for,.. he comes creeping like a sniveling ratfaced snake looking for information up my arse and then exactly like the cunteyed rat faced insincere garbage arsed cunteyed creep he is he wanna come and compare fckng notes like the two faced piece of lily livered trasharse cunteyed creep pseudo fuckup of a pathetic two faced halfwit halfarse scientist he’s supposed to be…
If ever there was a non genuine cunteyed rat in this here universe you feeble little cunteyed rat.. you are It.. you pissarse two faced cunteyed sniveling frivolous pathetic closed minded fuckup feeble two faced rat…
26 Dec 2011, 20:15 pm
what you need is your yellow bellied two faced arsecreep teeth kicked through the back of your yellow bellied two farce arse creep head you cn’t… you are no where near to being a seeker after anything.. what you seeking is garbage arsed ego rancid cunteyed trash… thats what you want.. what you need is for that highfalutin fucked up ego of yours to get kicked straight through the back of your cunteyed rancid closed minded fucked up materialistic frivolous insincere head you cunteyed piece of two faced garbage cunteyed trash…
26 Dec 2011, 20:15 pm
yip – goddamn hyprocritical fkn idiot, always knew it.
26 Dec 2011, 20:17 pm
pure fasist guttertrash through and through, thats exactly what you are, after all the fancy words, you are nothing more than a rubbish who ego has tried to overcompensate for both his physical and mental shortcomings.
26 Dec 2011, 20:19 pm
fuckyou you little runtcunt … what you know from reality or from hippies or hypocrites is ZERO you little two faced piece of slivering sniveling cunteyed trash.. you need your fucked up rancid ego kicked through the back of your rancid cunteyed closed minded two faced head.. thats what you actually need you cn’t – thats what that fuckup fatfuck pseudo scientific ego of yours needs you pissarse little dandy faced two faced garbage arsed cn’t…
26 Dec 2011, 20:24 pm
open-minded, my arse, you actually cant even begin to understand the word – you are anything but open-minded, you are fkd up, check your default everytime, to threaten, thats your best fkn effort? what a fkn joke, and this doos is meant to be open-minded, u aint even understood the beginning of the word, ****** almighty to think i wasted my time conversing with this idiot rubbish. Its good actually cos this is exactly what you are.
26 Dec 2011, 20:25 pm
what you know about me or about anything or anybody is absolute ZERO.. thats how much you know you feeble little dandy arsed psuedo fuckface cn’t
You are not now nor never were in search of ANYTHING real or true.. what you want you fuckup feebly half witted pseudo fuckface is for evidence deliver to your runtcunt feeble insincere face you little mongrel cunteyed piece of trash… what you ACTUALLY NEED is for that fuckup insincere two faced highfalutin enormous pseudo fuckface ego of yours obliterated into nonentity.. thats what sniveling little two faced cunteyed creep cn’ts like you actually need you frivolous little feeble garbage seeking runty arsewipeCUNT
26 Dec 2011, 20:28 pm
yip guttertrash lout rubbish, this fkr is all but dressed up in a gestapo stormtrooper uniform.
bladdy rubbish through and through.
26 Dec 2011, 20:32 pm
I’m not interested in your two faced second grade insincere frivolous pseudo so called open mindedness… as if you feeble little arsewipecunt KNOW what open mindedness comprises… you miserable little two faced garbage cunteyed rat…
if you had ANY iota of an idea what open mindedness comprises this entire fuckup of a discussion would never have started or gotten this far… you are closed minded cunteyed trash pseudo arsed pathetic garbage who don’t know fuckall about anything relevant to ANYTHING related to any truth or reality so you feeble little cunteyed rat go get fucked, that is all that you good for.. get fucked and disperse up that pseudo scum arsed second rated two faced nonentity of a pseudo scientific backside you lily livered two faced insincere pseudo scientist trash…
26 Dec 2011, 20:33 pm
this is the great humanitarian worried about turkey gobbling.
what a prime fkn example of a hypocritical doos ego in all its splendour, unravelling at the seams.
26 Dec 2011, 20:40 pm
what you want youcunt? what the fck you lily livered two faced rancid cunteyed creep actually want you cnt?? what you little feeble fuckface cn’t actually went you lily livered two faced arsewipe cn’t… wtf you still come creeping up my arse for huh you little pathetic unscrupulous garbage filthy absolute enormous rancid ego rampant cn’t.!!?? Huh.. don’t you get the message yet you cn’t?? you are NOT WORTHY or WORTH it …. so go get fucked you pathetic little pseudo arsed frivolous insincere turkey groveling runtcunt two faced rat…
26 Dec 2011, 20:43 pm
you are not interested in open-minded discussion, its always been about your ego. You and your fkd up religion is merely about bashing down all opposition or questioning. You want disciples, not free thinking open-minded individuals. You are completely brain-washed, you are not a humanitarian, you a common garden variety guttertrash lout whose thinking brain has long since been swamped by this fundamental belief system, which your entire ego is so fundamentally invested in.
yip this is the great open-minded humanitarian at base – what a fkn joke.
26 Dec 2011, 20:44 pm
ah ha you think you got the answer about me and my ego you pathetic little unscrupulous rat faced runtcunt… come on try a little harder… who you trying to ‘expose’ here you feeble arsed pseudo scientific c’nt…
You think I got my ego or my sanity or my so called pseudo morals or my pseudo integrity to protect ? – unlike you I call you feeble little two faced garbage frivolous trasharse pseudo runtcunt for who you are.. exactly who you are you miserable two faced garbage seeking two faced rancid pseudo scientific scum faced cn’t….
26 Dec 2011, 20:49 pm
thats right, you aint seeking the truth or openminded discussion, you simply sought out something that would justify your own selective morality. So now when questioned on it, and u know u fkd, u go off on one, cos you know there is no way out of it and your ego fkn explodes, and it happens every time. if ever there was a textbook case of someone so utterly brainwashed in denial its gotta be you. imo u actually a fkn danger to society and should be sectioned.
26 Dec 2011, 20:52 pm
fck you you stupid ignoramus doos… the last thing I want here from cn’ts like you are disciples… if I wanted disciples I would not tell you little feeble two faced lily arsedcunt to get fucked
what you feeble little aggrandized cnt know about me or my so called religion or my ego is fuckall… you pathetic little ignoramus pseudo fucked up idiotic doos…
you little weasel cn’t have gotten way more that you feeble little pathetic cn’teyed creep deserve as you sniveling little insincere rat came unscrupulously sniveling around my back door and I for one would be happy to fck your jaundiced aggrandized fucked up ego for you straight through your fucked up lily livered two faced teeth… how about it… you yellow bellied two faced insincere cunteyed trash..!!??
26 Dec 2011, 20:53 pm
@cab-380: Skop’s mind is as open as Barbie’s poephol….
26 Dec 2011, 20:56 pm
told u already, there is no ways i become your or anyone else disciple, you too much a fkwit, always knew that, but its just become crystal clear over the last few days exactly what you are. check this guttertrash lout still threatening away, you a fkn nazi in humanitarian clothing, through and through, left right left right, sieg heil u bladdy fascist trash, the very antethesis to openminded discussion.
26 Dec 2011, 20:57 pm
go for it you pseudo scientist… try section off the morality you high priest cn’ts like to pretend you have the audacity of knowledge your fucked up pseudo scientific jargon is what is downright dangerous.. its so called scientific closed minded cn’ts like you who certify and condition society according your fucked up unscrupulous closed minded morality… you feeble little two faced sniveling cn’t…
same as in cuckoos nest you cn’t are IT you the warden of f’ng society.. you two faced non knowing unscrupulous feeble closed minded materialist cunteyed creep rat.. you deserve to get fucked up to smithereens because you got no credentials regarding reality whatsoever you feeble two faced sniveling cunteyed creeparsed two faced non knowing rat…
26 Dec 2011, 21:00 pm
Have you ever had that moment when you walked into a room…..and
Whoopsee….. Turned on your heel and quickly walked out!
Wrong time, wrong place!
26 Dec 2011, 21:00 pm
cuckoos nest…?!?! u should be in cuckoos nest u complete and utter div.
26 Dec 2011, 21:02 pm
Farkin smileys…:-)
26 Dec 2011, 21:03 pm
and I told you pseudo runtcunt rat to get fucked…
You are not worthy of truth that much is absolutely and unfounded clear… you dunno the beginning of where truth or reality begins.. you dumb fck ignoramus piece of trashass cnteyed rat….
I am the last one to ever seek any disciple you frivolous two faced garbage creep cunteyed rat.. but c’nts like you who think you feeble little foefy arsed non knowing f’ng materialist creep got the wherewithal to acknowledge truth by your own feeble fucked up conditioned self righteous screwed up so called rationality and jaundiced ego rampant self centered judgment don’t know the beginning of where any truth or any reality begins…. and its cn’ts like you who need those fucked up ego rampant heads of yours kicked to smithereens.. that is what you actually need before you ever gonna get anywhere near to see any reality or light whatsoever…
26 Dec 2011, 21:06 pm
so fk off with your truth already or tell it to someone who will accept it, but dont force that shite on me.
26 Dec 2011, 21:08 pm
stick your truth in a special box and lodge it firmly up your buttcrack, fkn smug all-knowing dickheadsupreme. forget me, please for the love of all that is holy, keep your fkn truth to yourself and do everyone a big favour.
26 Dec 2011, 21:11 pm
you need to get fucked up thats what you need you unconscious piece of two faced insincere second grade trash … you need that fucked up rampant excruciating ego of yours to get so fucked up that you catch the almighty wake up you so insincerely searching for… you feeble little piece of trash cn’t got fuckall idea of where reality begins yet you sit in you fucked up credulousness closed minded arrogant high priest tower and pretend to be the fcking custodian of rationality… who the fck you little pissarse runtcunt creep two faced garbage think you cuntfaced prick are.. what you need is to get absolutely fucked up and I gladly do that fckg service.. you feeble little piffle arse two faced cunteyed creeping arsewipe scum…
26 Dec 2011, 21:16 pm
so fuckoff already what the fck is keeping you here… what you come test the waters for you little pathetic ignoramus runtcunt creep.?? what th’**** you pretend to be all so sincerely seeking the truth you piffle arsed two faced insincere garbage riddled materialistic cunteyed creep.??.. fuckoff already… nobody asked you to come sniveling and creeping around my gat… you lily livered two faced garbage arsed cn’t.. so fuckoff and stay fuckedoff.. I will say whatever it is I want as long as a modicum of free speech exists… and if little lily livered two faced half witted pseudo scientific cn’ts like you cannot stomach the reality of it… two fckng bad sad for you you pathetic arsecreeeping little insincere half arsed nonentity of a scumfaced rat…
26 Dec 2011, 21:16 pm
yeah go on you guttertrash, u need to buy yourself a saddle for your bakkie to see over the dash and now some fkn stormtrooper lederhosen to goosestep round in. complete rubbish that you are. the great fkn humanitarian, u do belong in the fkn cuckoos nest u dafttwat.
26 Dec 2011, 21:21 pm
what u complaining about free speech about? the only one doing the threatening is you. the only preponent wanting to close down an opposing opinion by force is you. Thats always been the case, what scientist has ever started a war or flown into a building. Its you daft fkers who justify your fundamental **** ntil the cows come home, its you who are the oppressors of humanity and cause pain, not the fkn turkey gobblers, but u righteous guttertrash with your fkd up fundamentalist ideologies that cant abide an opposing viewpoint.
26 Dec 2011, 21:22 pm
im telling u this fkr going to pitch at work tomorrow on a saddle that gives him an extra 10inch lift and some lederhosen goosestepping as he goes, hi ho hi ho, its off to work i go.
26 Dec 2011, 21:50 pm
keep at it you little cunteyed insincere garbage arsed pseudo scientific scum faced rat… what you want is not reality or reason or truth or understanding what little two faced closed minded cn’ts like you want is for your fucked up unconscious unscrupulous insincere piece of trash second grade non scientific stuck up your fatfuck arse head to get kicked through your yellow bellied two faced garbage arsed scum faced rotten fucked up pseudo two faced teeth.. you sniveling little runtcunt piece of yellow bellied trash… get fucked scum… get far flung fucked off fucked,… get the message you cn’t go get your highfalutin fucked up sniveling two faced head fucked up where it counts..!!
26 Dec 2011, 21:58 pm
old kortgat herr hitler is a one-trick pony at the end of the day.
a little doos with an overblown ego.
26 Dec 2011, 22:02 pm
the big conscience pricker, whether its the carnivores, the origins of xmas or his view on anything really, but at base, this self-proclaimed so-called enlightened humanitarian is just a garden variety guttertrash yobbo.
26 Dec 2011, 22:12 pm
that a fact fuckface… whats your fucked up claim to fame cunteyed prat?
you looking for what again exactly cunteyed insincere two faced garbage arsed c’ntified rat…??
what was it exactly you come conniving around my gat for you frivolous piece of cunteyed trash heap cn’t..
what exactly IS it you piece of lily livered two faced cn’t seek here on keo.co.za where you sought my private ID out to come sniveling like the runtcunt arsecreep little insincere rat you are you C’NT?
26 Dec 2011, 22:14 pm
go on let it all out you animal, and then tommorrow when you pieced back together your carefully constructed puffed up oversized ego, you can begin again with your great humanitarian enlightement lessons…what a fkn joke. cant believe i ever entertained a single view from this cuckoo-nest fkn nutjob.
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