Comments on: Smit backs Burger for Bok captaincy

By: man1a

man1a — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:12:35 +0000

@j59-211: rigged? lol u so funny

By: j59

j59 — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:43:26 +0000

@stormer in a teacup-207: Agreed. If you have the right selections you CAN win a rigged RWC.

By: man1a

man1a — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:57:09 +0000

@stormer in a teacup-207: so the senior players throwing out PdV's play book and going back to the kicking game had nothing to do with it?

By: Beast

Beast — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:31:38 +0000

Amen! The only thing that would make Burger a more complete leader is if he applied his trade in Pretoria!

By: stew

stew — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:46:17 +0000

@stormer in a teacup-207: agreed

By: stormer in a teacup

stormer in a teacup — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:55:31 +0000

To all those ostriches who think that Smit, Matfield, du Preez, etc.cost us the world cup, the responsibility lies squarely with the coach whose team selections were woeful, whose strategies were outdated and whose innovation was non-existent. Any coach with one, let alone two ballas,and any understanding of how the game is being played would haved done what every rugby fan in the country could see was required,picked the team on form and adapted our play to the new realities.

By: Hondo

Hondo — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:07:34 +0000

@nama1-192:
A wistful thinking?
But don’t bet your house and the family’s bonds on it

By: man1a

man1a — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:07:16 +0000

@TASSIES-204: yeah was a bummer really. but could've been worse. i blame the boks senior players for taking over the running of the team. PDV tried to introduce expansive rugby but was railroaded by the seniors which effectively stopped any new talent or ideas being introduced. come WC time it was the same old boks with the same old gameplan. a gameplan that had effectively been countered in 2010 (after boks dominated 2009). it would've been nice to see what PDV would've introduced. i dont think PDV's a great coach but he might've offered something new. SA will always have the players to field a world class side but they havent done any evolving in the past 8 years.

By: TASSIES

TASSIES — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:31:37 +0000

@man1a-203: well I hadn't considered that risk. When the Boks play I want them to win. Regardless(of the consequences).

By: man1a

man1a — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:13:30 +0000

@TASSIES-202: yeah bryce had a terrible game, but at least he was consistently bad for both sides. isnt it good that the boks didnt win the WC? can u imagine another 4 years with PDV at the helm?

By: TASSIES

TASSIES — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:58:03 +0000

@JohnPaul-199: well JP you have a point. But so in a way doth Skop. Burger did gift that try but **** happens. Brussouw’s early injury and ultimate exit caused huge problems, all not helped by an abysmal and inept match officials’ performance. All the Kiwis I spoke to(and that be many) agreed. BUT we lost. That’s what the record says.

By: TASSIES

TASSIES — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:51:42 +0000

@ashampoopaloo-196: howzit Skop/G10. All the best boys. Time we met for another soda at Forries hey what? Rassie, Rassie, Rassie, what gives? England?

By: man1a

man1a — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:50:04 +0000

@ashampoopaloo-196: burger was the only one willing to be first reciever and did it over and over. this would've been pdv/senior players telling burger the game plan. burger would've just put his head down and accepted the role. sure he made mistakes but with a work load as huge as his, he's allowed to make mistakes. burgers contribution and defence was immense in that game. he's not the most creative ball carrier but he does what needs to be done, the quick one off the ruck to cross the adv line. burgers also been working on his passing game, still in development stages but he's getting better. fully agree with your other points accept for spies. waste of space and i cant figure out why he gets so much game time. spies doesnt hit rucks or clear mauls. lazy and hangs around waiting for the ball instead of doing his job and going in and securing it

By: JohnPaul

JohnPaul — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:43:08 +0000

@willievz-195: yep I agree with you there my man…weak attacking Boks backline is your problem…hopefully you guys get it together this year and show us what you can do…otherwise it will be same old, same old…but I do worry about your El Presidente….if he is indicative of how South Africa has fallen then the whole country is doomed….hope you guys can retrieve it…still I look forward to good old scraps between the AB’s and Boks and the Wallies.

By: JohnPaul

JohnPaul — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:40:28 +0000

@ashampoopaloo-196: will you Saffas just get over the bridge…you lost the 1/4 final because you were not up to scratch against an Aussie side that really should not have won but did. Just admit it…YOU BLEW IT…and whether or not you made the Final you still would have got beaten….the best Team won the Cup and so say all of us … end of story…it is now 2012….4 more years boyz..

By: grant10

grant10 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:07:25 +0000

@ashampoopaloo-196: exactly right....

By: ashampoopaloo

ashampoopaloo — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:02:45 +0000

@willievz-195: Burger is the problem… anyone still yet unable to open their shut fast eyes.. Burger is NO creative play maker making all the running meters and getting nowhere fast..

Who is YET to realize the fundamental FAIL at the WC rested around 3 or 4 positions

1. John Smit should not have been run on hooker Bismark should have started
2. Burger should not have been first receiver and mid field play making general 70% of every play. Burger spilled the ball that gifted the Aussie try, and Burger lost the ball under Aussie posts when in possession
3. Fourie du Preez should not have been run on scrum half, Hougaard should have started
4. Alberts should have started ahead of Spies who should have played off bench.
5. Brussow was largely ineffective.. running on injured… Louw should have started the 1/4 final and Burger would not have spilled the ball that resulted in Horwills try.

And Boks would have cake walked the 1/4 final and likely the WC..

By: willievz

willievz — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:14:08 +0000

@pompies2-172: Hello Pompies. Very valid point you make, during the whole RWC11 our backline was very ineffective at attacking the correct points in the defensive line, partly due to passing inaccuracy and not attacking the immediate defender's weaker shoulder. Having said that, the amount of 5+ phases we strung together in that QF vis-a-vis the Aussies suggests that we did dominate the contact point to some extent, despite a weak attacking strategy. This suggests that, in theory at least, we should have had the upper hand (or shoulder!!) come ruck time. But we didn't.

By: nama1

nama1 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:11:45 +0000

@stormersboy-191:

By: au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir...

au revoir mon tout noirs, au revoir... — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:08:47 +0000

@stormersboy-191: yip, they'll brin him in on probation with a bit of 'counselling' and everyone will just watch their wallets, but bring him in they will.