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	<title>Comments on: Sanzar must call SA&#8217;s boycott bluff</title>
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		<title>By: bokfan1(bokfan1)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2082043</link>
		<dc:creator>bokfan1(bokfan1)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 12:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;R5 million to former coach Dick Muir,&quot; - JEEEEEZ! 5 Million?!
What an awesome industry to work in - lose every single game and get paid 5 million!
I seriously hope D ick feels ashamed of his contribution to the Boks and the Lions
 as a coach]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;R5 million to former coach <acronym title="Keep it clean!">****</acronym> Muir,&#8221; &#8211; JEEEEEZ! 5 Million?!<br />
What an awesome industry to work in &#8211; lose every single game and get paid 5 million!<br />
I seriously hope D ick feels ashamed of his contribution to the Boks and the Lions<br />
 as a coach</p>
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		<title>By: eamon(eamon)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2073891</link>
		<dc:creator>eamon(eamon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi from Sydney, i am sorry to hear about this mess you guys have yourself in. However one thing is sure the strength and depth of rugby talent in your country will shine through regaurdless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Sydney, i am sorry to hear about this mess you guys have yourself in. However one thing is sure the strength and depth of rugby talent in your country will shine through regaurdless.</p>
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		<title>By: rossoneri</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2071111</link>
		<dc:creator>rossoneri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Transformation and Pissant. Great posts and the truth. The one thing Mark highlights with this article and is sooo true, is the Hoskins and Saru cannot make decisions. If John O&#039;Neil was in charge here the unions would not be so lippy, they would understand that Saru is the mother body, and their participation in the Super comeptition is Saru&#039;s final decision. Some unions have been on a gravy train of Super rugby security for way too long, and didn&#039;t even care to perform in the competition, and ran up debts waiting to be bailed out, and still feel entitled. They need a wake up klap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transformation and Pissant. Great posts and the truth. The one thing Mark highlights with this article and is sooo true, is the Hoskins and Saru cannot make decisions. If John O&#8217;Neil was in charge here the unions would not be so lippy, they would understand that Saru is the mother body, and their participation in the Super comeptition is Saru&#8217;s final decision. Some unions have been on a gravy train of Super rugby security for way too long, and didn&#8217;t even care to perform in the competition, and ran up debts waiting to be bailed out, and still feel entitled. They need a wake up klap.</p>
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		<title>By: PrickBoks going South</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrickBoks going South</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Time to get rid of the whinging Yappies. It&#039;s like playing with a migraine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to get rid of the whinging Yappies. It&#8217;s like playing with a migraine.</p>
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		<title>By: Transformation</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2071056</link>
		<dc:creator>Transformation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070981&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BreakdownBoy-301&lt;/a&gt;: which decision was made for the unions? in 2005, the unions agreed to get the South Eastern Cape involved in Super Rugby through the Spears, when the time came for the Spears to join, the same unions through SARU spent over R10 million rand getting rid of the Spears through nefarious means, and just so you know Cheeky Watson had nothing to do with EP Rugby at the time.

the British &amp; Irish Lions were here in &lt;b&gt;2009&lt;/b&gt; and the Southern Kings &quot;franchise&quot; was resurrected, now it is 2012 and the same unions supposedly have not understood what the inclusion of the South Eastern Cape means in terms of the existing licences SARU holds, that is nonsense!

nothing has been sprung on these unions, they have been part and parcel of every step of this process but clearly there are deep-seated entitlement issues here. it is everyone&#039;s wont to say the Kings must FIRST prove they&#039;re ready and jump through all sort of hoops before they are allowed to participate in Super Rugby but the current licence holders can get up to all sort of s(hit in the meantime and there is NO accountability on their parts - lions can lose all 13 of their games if they want and they can be a financial nightmare and it&#039;s all good.

the likes of De Klerk are panicking and speaking in tongues to save the gatte!


De Klerk emphasised the need for Saru to make a decision that would be in the&lt;b&gt; interests of South African rugby in general.&lt;/b&gt;  

&quot;It (the inclusion of the Kings) has to be a rugby decision, not a political decision,&quot; De Klerk said.

&quot;Perhaps a Super 16 series could be the solution, and we will continue hoping that another franchise could be accommodated.

&lt;b&gt;&quot;The restructuring of the existing franchises to include the southern and eastern Cape unions is another possible solution.&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070981" rel="nofollow">BreakdownBoy-301</a>: which decision was made for the unions? in 2005, the unions agreed to get the South Eastern Cape involved in Super Rugby through the Spears, when the time came for the Spears to join, the same unions through SARU spent over R10 million rand getting rid of the Spears through nefarious means, and just so you know Cheeky Watson had nothing to do with EP Rugby at the time.</p>
<p>the British &amp; Irish Lions were here in <b>2009</b> and the Southern Kings &#8220;franchise&#8221; was resurrected, now it is 2012 and the same unions supposedly have not understood what the inclusion of the South Eastern Cape means in terms of the existing licences SARU holds, that is nonsense!</p>
<p>nothing has been sprung on these unions, they have been part and parcel of every step of this process but clearly there are deep-seated entitlement issues here. it is everyone&#8217;s wont to say the Kings must FIRST prove they&#8217;re ready and jump through all sort of hoops before they are allowed to participate in Super Rugby but the current licence holders can get up to all sort of s(hit in the meantime and there is NO accountability on their parts &#8211; lions can lose all 13 of their games if they want and they can be a financial nightmare and it&#8217;s all good.</p>
<p>the likes of De Klerk are panicking and speaking in tongues to save the gatte!</p>
<p>De Klerk emphasised the need for Saru to make a decision that would be in the<b> interests of South African rugby in general.</b>  </p>
<p>&#8220;It (the inclusion of the Kings) has to be a rugby decision, not a political decision,&#8221; De Klerk said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps a Super 16 series could be the solution, and we will continue hoping that another franchise could be accommodated.</p>
<p><b>&#8220;The restructuring of the existing franchises to include the southern and eastern Cape unions is another possible solution.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Gray3</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2071014</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the first time in years I think Keo has written an article worth reading. The unions weild way too much power in SA rugby. Why do the lions deserve a Super rugby spot? They have for the last 5 years finished last or second last. Frankly they dont desrve to play Super rugby. So they won the curry cup, honestly so what?

Unions should stay in the curry cup the the super rugb franchises should be professionally managed, based in the big cities and not be held captive by unions. The players should be centrally contracted and the bok coach should have input, only inlput into where and how the players should play. it should be national interest first not petty union issues first. 

The cheethas and the lion may as well not bein super rugby for all the impact they have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time in years I think Keo has written an article worth reading. The unions weild way too much power in SA rugby. Why do the lions deserve a Super rugby spot? They have for the last 5 years finished last or second last. Frankly they dont desrve to play Super rugby. So they won the curry cup, honestly so what?</p>
<p>Unions should stay in the curry cup the the super rugb franchises should be professionally managed, based in the big cities and not be held captive by unions. The players should be centrally contracted and the bok coach should have input, only inlput into where and how the players should play. it should be national interest first not petty union issues first. </p>
<p>The cheethas and the lion may as well not bein super rugby for all the impact they have.</p>
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		<title>By: BreakdownBoy</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070981</link>
		<dc:creator>BreakdownBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SARU should&#039;ve consulted the unions before they made this decision for them. Tank you ANC, your involvement in this matter is very obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SARU should&#8217;ve consulted the unions before they made this decision for them. Tank you ANC, your involvement in this matter is very obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: husky</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070979</link>
		<dc:creator>husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off season fun and the sparring between Tac and PA illustrates SA&#039;s problem quite well. Tac is all Bulls and the big unions, keep the power, even to the detriment of SA rugby while PA seems to suggest a &quot;transformation&quot; where the government (SARU) despite being useless and corrupt holds the power. Surely the answer is a middle ground; actually fewer, stronger well run franchises then SARU runs academies and development properly, feeding players through the CC into SR. The Tac route leads to English soccer - strong clubs, second rate national team. &quot;Transformation&quot; leads to corruption and second rate everything.

Finally I think rugby in SA is dying, albeit slowly. PA sneers at Tac&#039;s estimates but doesn&#039;t provide real numbers. They may be interesting, particularly with time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off season fun and the sparring between Tac and PA illustrates SA&#8217;s problem quite well. Tac is all Bulls and the big unions, keep the power, even to the detriment of SA rugby while PA seems to suggest a &#8220;transformation&#8221; where the government (SARU) despite being useless and corrupt holds the power. Surely the answer is a middle ground; actually fewer, stronger well run franchises then SARU runs academies and development properly, feeding players through the CC into SR. The Tac route leads to English soccer &#8211; strong clubs, second rate national team. &#8220;Transformation&#8221; leads to corruption and second rate everything.</p>
<p>Finally I think rugby in SA is dying, albeit slowly. PA sneers at Tac&#8217;s estimates but doesn&#8217;t provide real numbers. They may be interesting, particularly with time.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTackler</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070946</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTackler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Face facts -- Solly and Cheeky&#039;s rag-tag EP crowd couldn&#039;t beat an egg.  And with only 5 players-of-colour in their losing Vodacup team squad of 22 ( compared with 10/22 for the winners, Boland, they do nothing for so-called &quot;transformation&quot; either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face facts &#8212; Solly and Cheeky&#8217;s rag-tag EP crowd couldn&#8217;t beat an egg.  And with only 5 players-of-colour in their losing Vodacup team squad of 22 ( compared with 10/22 for the winners, Boland, they do nothing for so-called &#8220;transformation&#8221; either.</p>
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		<title>By: Tacitus</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070937</link>
		<dc:creator>Tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You shouldn&#039;t take Sevens so seriously. Stick to your strengths, and you&#039;ll be a happier person.

Same applies to SA rugby. A game without lineouts, mauls, and a lot of forward play and kicking simply doesn&#039;t suit us. You&#039;re in for lots more heartache if you continue to want to dominate the world in basketball style Sevens rugby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t take Sevens so seriously. Stick to your strengths, and you&#8217;ll be a happier person.</p>
<p>Same applies to SA rugby. A game without lineouts, mauls, and a lot of forward play and kicking simply doesn&#8217;t suit us. You&#8217;re in for lots more heartache if you continue to want to dominate the world in basketball style Sevens rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: clm</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070935</link>
		<dc:creator>clm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070925&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rangerman-289&lt;/a&gt;: feeling better now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070925" rel="nofollow">rangerman-289</a>: feeling better now?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070933</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070931&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeraldjay-294&lt;/a&gt;: 
:lol: 
Cheers everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070931" rel="nofollow">Jeraldjay-294</a>:<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Cheers everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: rangerman</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070932</link>
		<dc:creator>rangerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070927&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tuna-290&lt;/a&gt;: j throwing intercept passes and refusing to look for the offoad.

looked like a bunch of glory hunters to me tonight, not one looked to put his fellows into space.

seriosly poor and embarrassing imo, maybe they have accepted mediocrity?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070927" rel="nofollow">Tuna-290</a>: j throwing intercept passes and refusing to look for the offoad.</p>
<p>looked like a bunch of glory hunters to me tonight, not one looked to put his fellows into space.</p>
<p>seriosly poor and embarrassing imo, maybe they have accepted mediocrity?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeraldjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeraldjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070930&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David-293&lt;/a&gt;: 
:roll: Thanks. Its late and I&#039;m pissed off.:lol:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070930" rel="nofollow">David-293</a>:<br />
 <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks. Its late and I&#8217;m pissed off.:lol:</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070929&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeraldjay-292&lt;/a&gt;: 
I hope you don&#039;t mind me correcting your english, but the word is &quot;losing&quot;, with one &quot;o&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070929" rel="nofollow">Jeraldjay-292</a>:<br />
I hope you don&#8217;t mind me correcting your english, but the word is &#8220;losing&#8221;, with one &#8220;o&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeraldjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeraldjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070927&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tuna-290&lt;/a&gt;: 
I&#039;m sick and tired of loosing to the AB&#039;s, irrespective of it being 7&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070927" rel="nofollow">Tuna-290</a>:<br />
I&#8217;m sick and tired of loosing to the AB&#8217;s, irrespective of it being 7&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070928</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well tackler will be pleased]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well tackler will be pleased</p>
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		<title>By: Tuna</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070927</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2070924&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeraldjay-288&lt;/a&gt;: Mistake orgy form the Saffas. Afrika the only one trying his arse off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2070924" rel="nofollow">Jeraldjay-288</a>: Mistake orgy form the Saffas. Afrika the only one trying his arse off.</p>
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		<title>By: rangerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>rangerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pathetic display by a pathetic bunch of individuals, fukken &quot;blitzbokke&quot; my arse.

watching cecil afrika and branco d smallfry try and goose step every player is simply excrutiating.

paul treu for bok backline coach? bwaaahaaa, the okes he trains dont even have the requiste skills for sevens.

fkken waste of time.

p.s. thes boys look sh i t scared, they must not waste my time in future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pathetic display by a pathetic bunch of individuals, <acronym title="Keep it clean!">******</acronym> &#8220;blitzbokke&#8221; my arse.</p>
<p>watching cecil afrika and branco d smallfry try and goose step every player is simply excrutiating.</p>
<p>paul treu for bok backline coach? bwaaahaaa, the okes he trains dont even have the requiste skills for sevens.</p>
<p>fkken waste of time.</p>
<p>p.s. thes boys look sh i t scared, they must not waste my time in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeraldjay</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/12/why-sanzar-must-call-the-bluff-of-sas-threat-to-boycott/#comment-2070924</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeraldjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Final score, AB&#039;s 20 - SA 7.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Final score, AB&#8217;s 20 &#8211; SA 7.</p>
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