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	<title>Comments on: Sanzar stands firm on Super Rugby format</title>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072381</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Farksakes, there are some real prize retards on this thread....

Lets have a roll call of fuckwit stupidity. Top to bottom:

1. XV
2. Allblackaregods
3. Clm
4 Mania

And by the way, Capo, I am farken telling you not to fraudulently use my nic, dumbfck offspring of a down syndromic nymphette of a mother....

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game-365&lt;/a&gt;: THIS IS NOT ME.

Please, MODERATOR - SORT THIS NAME STEALING BULLSHIT OUT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farksakes, there are some real prize retards on this thread&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lets have a roll call of fuckwit stupidity. Top to bottom:</p>
<p>1. XV<br />
2. Allblackaregods<br />
3. Clm<br />
4 Mania</p>
<p>And by the way, Capo, I am farken telling you not to fraudulently use my nic, dumbfck offspring of a down syndromic nymphette of a mother&#8230;.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-2072340" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game-365</a>: THIS IS NOT ME.</p>
<p>Please, MODERATOR &#8211; SORT THIS NAME STEALING BULLSHIT OUT!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenFan</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072374</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have little sympathy for SARU for painting themselves into this corner but at the same time the current Super Rugby format is ridiculous. No serious sporting competition should have ever resorted to the gimmicky scenario thats in place now where sides supposedly in the same pool dont even play all the same set of opposition. And as for the 6 team playoff format - well - thats just a money generating gimmic and not something I am a fan of. I found last years Super 15 very uninterersting. 

I think the long term future of the competition probably lies in a 16 team format. Two pools of 8 with home and away fixtures followed by semi finals and final. 

All that said - in the meantime, while we wait, I think a promotion relegation system is the way to go. In fact I think the whole franchise concept was a mistake and the top 5 currie cup sides should get to play S15 every year. They could still loan / draft players from other sides. I don&#039;t think there is another way. Obviously the problem is that EP (Southern Kings) cant make the top 5 in the Currie Cup so maybe they should be given special exemption for a year but thereafter need to defend that position as any other side would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little sympathy for SARU for painting themselves into this corner but at the same time the current Super Rugby format is ridiculous. No serious sporting competition should have ever resorted to the gimmicky scenario thats in place now where sides supposedly in the same pool dont even play all the same set of opposition. And as for the 6 team playoff format &#8211; well &#8211; thats just a money generating gimmic and not something I am a fan of. I found last years Super 15 very uninterersting. </p>
<p>I think the long term future of the competition probably lies in a 16 team format. Two pools of 8 with home and away fixtures followed by semi finals and final. </p>
<p>All that said &#8211; in the meantime, while we wait, I think a promotion relegation system is the way to go. In fact I think the whole franchise concept was a mistake and the top 5 currie cup sides should get to play S15 every year. They could still loan / draft players from other sides. I don&#8217;t think there is another way. Obviously the problem is that EP (Southern Kings) cant make the top 5 in the Currie Cup so maybe they should be given special exemption for a year but thereafter need to defend that position as any other side would.</p>
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		<title>By: clm</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072350</link>
		<dc:creator>clm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072349&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;clm-367&lt;/a&gt;: the]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072349" rel="nofollow">clm-367</a>: the</p>
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		<title>By: clm</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072349</link>
		<dc:creator>clm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072340&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heavens Game-365&lt;/a&gt;: what thge fok are you on about?we all know your style ....and nobody really takes you seriously.you are nothing but nice entertainment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072340" rel="nofollow">Heavens Game-365</a>: what thge fok are you on about?we all know your style &#8230;.and nobody really takes you seriously.you are nothing but nice entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072345</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072295&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;allblacksaregods-362&lt;/a&gt;: IMHO, the main reason is Crusaders being that good rather than Lions being that poor. Crusaders use to cash in 5 pointers frequently from the Pink Bulls/Sharks/Stormers, too.

Lions should do ok this time. No stars from heaven and no utter embarrasment either. They should aim to be in top 3 of SA conference and the top 8 at the most modest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072295" rel="nofollow">allblacksaregods-362</a>: IMHO, the main reason is Crusaders being that good rather than Lions being that poor. Crusaders use to cash in 5 pointers frequently from the Pink Bulls/Sharks/Stormers, too.</p>
<p>Lions should do ok this time. No stars from heaven and no utter embarrasment either. They should aim to be in top 3 of SA conference and the top 8 at the most modest.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavens Game</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072340</link>
		<dc:creator>Heavens Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sheezus I have to clean up my act as  I always feel dirty these days.

This apology, to all those Kiwis and Stormers I have insulted and everybody else for that matter, should go some way in cleansing me.
I am very sorry and hope you forgive me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheezus I have to clean up my act as  I always feel dirty these days.</p>
<p>This apology, to all those Kiwis and Stormers I have insulted and everybody else for that matter, should go some way in cleansing me.<br />
I am very sorry and hope you forgive me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072337</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am now a ghost and I am in some person&#039;s bed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now a ghost and I am in some person&#8217;s bed.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072300</link>
		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072295&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;allblacksaregods-362&lt;/a&gt;: well exactly. I don&#039;t even watch those games. The result is a foregone conclusion. Who the hell sets one&#039;s alarm for that? Prefer to hang out the &#039;gone surfing&#039; sign.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072295" rel="nofollow">allblacksaregods-362</a>: well exactly. I don&#8217;t even watch those games. The result is a foregone conclusion. Who the hell sets one&#8217;s alarm for that? Prefer to hang out the &#8216;gone surfing&#8217; sign.</p>
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		<title>By: allblacksaregods</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072295</link>
		<dc:creator>allblacksaregods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nils,I support the crusaders and basically just getting pidsed-off when the crusaders pencil in a guaranteed 5 points against the lions at the start of every super season.the comp needs variety]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nils,I support the crusaders and basically just getting pidsed-off when the crusaders pencil in a guaranteed 5 points against the lions at the start of every super season.the comp needs variety</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072291</link>
		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072272&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XV-354&lt;/a&gt;: this is the professional era. Read: money + resources. Aside from a portion of the motor industry, with respect, there is little by way of resources in the EC to build a professional franchise rugby team from scratch and become competitive. This is the point I&#039;m trying to make. At R100/ticket Newlands packs in 35,000 plus for a game against the Highlanders. Many more than that for a derby. The Cheetahs has been going for years and they struggle financially. How the hell is little EC going to cope against these odds?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072272" rel="nofollow">XV-354</a>: this is the professional era. Read: money + resources. Aside from a portion of the motor industry, with respect, there is little by way of resources in the EC to build a professional franchise rugby team from scratch and become competitive. This is the point I&#8217;m trying to make. At R100/ticket Newlands packs in 35,000 plus for a game against the Highlanders. Many more than that for a derby. The Cheetahs has been going for years and they struggle financially. How the hell is little EC going to cope against these odds?</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072290</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072265&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;allblacksaregods-349&lt;/a&gt;: And cmon, if Lions are that bad to be put out of their misery how farken good must be Cheeky Kings to replace them. 0-88.

Look, I would love to see Cheeky Kings inclusion, after all 5 points, easy ride and some 50+ points for my team is always welcome. I am not happy that SA teams will meet them twice thus gaining unfair advantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072265" rel="nofollow">allblacksaregods-349</a>: And cmon, if Lions are that bad to be put out of their misery how farken good must be Cheeky Kings to replace them. 0-88.</p>
<p>Look, I would love to see Cheeky Kings inclusion, after all 5 points, easy ride and some 50+ points for my team is always welcome. I am not happy that SA teams will meet them twice thus gaining unfair advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072285</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072265&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;allblacksaregods-349&lt;/a&gt;: After first season they did really well for a long time? Weird logic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072265" rel="nofollow">allblacksaregods-349</a>: After first season they did really well for a long time? Weird logic.</p>
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		<title>By: KingTJ</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072283</link>
		<dc:creator>KingTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sharks went up only 1 division....it did not jump  2 ranks like some police officers in Cele&#039;s army or like what the Kings  want to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sharks went up only 1 division&#8230;.it did not jump  2 ranks like some police officers in Cele&#8217;s army or like what the Kings  want to do.</p>
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		<title>By: IAAS</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072282</link>
		<dc:creator>IAAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072268&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XV-351&lt;/a&gt;: 

But the ARU were punting for a while to get a 5th Aussie team in the comp. But they targetted 2011 as their entry and were instrumental in getting the format changed to the new conference format because they wanted more derbies.

Which is more than can be said for SARU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072268" rel="nofollow">XV-351</a>: </p>
<p>But the ARU were punting for a while to get a 5th Aussie team in the comp. But they targetted 2011 as their entry and were instrumental in getting the format changed to the new conference format because they wanted more derbies.</p>
<p>Which is more than can be said for SARU.</p>
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		<title>By: KingTJ</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072281</link>
		<dc:creator>KingTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072272&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XV-354&lt;/a&gt;: Wouldn&#039;t it be better to give them a helping hand to the CC?....then they got exactly the same as the Sharks did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072272" rel="nofollow">XV-354</a>: Wouldn&#8217;t it be better to give them a helping hand to the CC?&#8230;.then they got exactly the same as the Sharks did.</p>
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		<title>By: allblacksaregods</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072276</link>
		<dc:creator>allblacksaregods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that the natal rugby union was vote into the top structure(currie cup) of south african rugby because the saru felt that the natal region should not be excluded from playing rugby at the highest level.true or false?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the natal rugby union was vote into the top structure(currie cup) of south african rugby because the saru felt that the natal region should not be excluded from playing rugby at the highest level.true or false?</p>
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		<title>By: XV</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072272</link>
		<dc:creator>XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072264&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TASSIES-348&lt;/a&gt;: they were not originally......but don&#039;t get me wrong ... of course they should be there now.  But they did get a helping hand.  Similar to what the Kings are looking for now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072264" rel="nofollow">TASSIES-348</a>: they were not originally&#8230;&#8230;but don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8230; of course they should be there now.  But they did get a helping hand.  Similar to what the Kings are looking for now.</p>
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		<title>By: TASSIES</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072271</link>
		<dc:creator>TASSIES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[look I have nothing but goodwill towards the E Cape. Would be great to see a team from that neck competing for honors. But lets be real....they are not going to be competitive in my life-time. Who the hell is going to bank-roll this thing. Its not like PE is a Melbourne FFS. PE would fit into the Yarra River and there&#039;d be room to spare. And look how competitive Melbourne isn&#039;t and wont be for quite a while, despite the dollars being thrown at it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look I have nothing but goodwill towards the E Cape. Would be great to see a team from that neck competing for honors. But lets be real&#8230;.they are not going to be competitive in my life-time. Who the hell is going to bank-roll this thing. Its not like PE is a Melbourne FFS. PE would fit into the Yarra River and there&#8217;d be room to spare. And look how competitive Melbourne isn&#8217;t and wont be for quite a while, despite the dollars being thrown at it.</p>
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		<title>By: KingTJ</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/02/14/sanzar-stands-firm-on-super-rugby-format/#comment-2072269</link>
		<dc:creator>KingTJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072262&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XV-347&lt;/a&gt;: But not at the expense of another CC side.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072262" rel="nofollow">XV-347</a>: But not at the expense of another CC side&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: XV</title>
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		<dc:creator>XV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2072257&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman-344&lt;/a&gt;: what about the Melbourne Rebels?  I sense that SARU were hoodwinked over their inclusion....and this is their way of forcing the issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2072257" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman-344</a>: what about the Melbourne Rebels?  I sense that SARU were hoodwinked over their inclusion&#8230;.and this is their way of forcing the issue?</p>
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