Comments on: Elstadt doubtful for opener

By: Sasuke(Sasuke)

Sasuke(Sasuke) — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:01:55 +0000

@David(David)-46: Didnt he do enough last year? He was one of the best No.4 locks in the whole Super 15. Essential to the Stormers successful pack. But I agree with you if he can produce the goods this season as well he can be consider for Bok selection this year.

By: ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)

ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:28:30 +0000

Yip I had great hopes for Elstadt, hope he comes through.. another case where Rassie fck’d up.. same as he did with Vermeulen and Watson and Burger, and both Flouw and Plouw, and Koster playing him at wing, pushing Elstadt too early into the enforcer 4 role where the kid’s best position would have been at 7, now he’s almost burned out before he’s started.

Rassie is not a good tactician nor a good selector or strategist.. and Stormers blow outs at the coal face of every competition in the last few years proves it.

With Etsebeth and Bekker at 4 and 5, and Elstadt at 7, with Koster, Vermeulen, Kolisi, Carr, Kitschoff filling in around the back row, Stormers got no dearth of efficient fire power through the loose and in the bust forward momentum stakes..

The entire problem is what the hell to do with Burger because sure as nuts he fcks up the entire balance and screws up all the momentum through and through, both at Stormers and in the Bok setup.

By: David(David)

David(David) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:49:38 +0000

@David(David)-45: Elstadt though, probably needs a couple of years in the S15 to prove himself.

By: David(David)

David(David) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:47:11 +0000

@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-44: We have a great choice of bench players to cover the 7,8,4 and 5 positions. With Alberts covering 7,8 and4 at a push. Elstadt 4 and 7, and Juandre 5 and 7.

By: ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)

ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:26:45 +0000

No requirement for Spies, or Burger, or Kankowski

By: ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)

ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:25:45 +0000

Boks possibilities

Vermeulen / Botha / Stander / Koster
Alberts / Elstadt / Coetsee
Kolisi / Minnie / Brussow
Bekker / Kruger
Etsebeth / Vd Merwe
Oosthuizen / Malherbe / JdP
Bismark / Chili / Strauss
Gerber / Beast / Oosthuizen

By: ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)

ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:19:48 +0000

Etzebeth and Bekker at 2nd row is one mean machine second row.. could very well be the Bok second row not too far down the line.

Elstadt should concentrate at 7 like e revamped Juan Smith

This my Stormers pack

Vemeulen
Elstadt
Kolisi
Bekker
Etsebeth
Malherbe
Liebenberg
Kitshoff

Harris / Blaauw
Fourie
Steenkamp
Carr
Koster

Who the hell needs Burger to come stuff up the works and destabilize the balance and the momentum? Just a fat spanner in the works who isn’t needed one little bit.

By: garth(garth)

garth(garth) — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:57:59 +0000

I’d prefer Etsbeth is given as much game time and time in the S15 as possible. That means that while Eldstadt is injured, he should be the first choice 4. Having Steenkamp start is pointless. He is only on the bench in case of injury. Once Eldstadt returns, I’d move Eben back to playing VC.

Schalk F believes in miracles. That must have been one hard knock.

By: Sasuke

Sasuke — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:37:24 +0000

@Sasuke-39: I think Etzebeth will be better served getting constant gametime in a lower league than getting patches in a top competition. Time is still on his side.

By: Sasuke

Sasuke — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:55:26 +0000

Probable Stormers starting 22- I think this is what Alister will pick if everyone is fit.

1. Kitshoff
2. Liebenberg
3. Brok
4. Elstadt
5. Bekker
6. Burger (c)
7. Vermeulen
8. Koster
9. Duvenage
10. Van Aswegen
11. Habana
12. JDV
13. JdJ
14. Aplon
15. Joe Pietersen

16. Deon Fourie
17. Deon Carstens
18. De Kock Steenkamp
19. Kolisi
20. Louis Schreuder
21. Marcel Brache
22. Van Den Heever

Vodacom Cup

1. Schalk Ferreria
2. Scara Ntubeni
3. Frans Malherbe
4. Quinn Roux
5. Etzebeth
6. Rohan Kitshoff
7. Tertius Daniller
8. Nizaam Carr
9. Groom
10. Coleman
11. Edries Arendse
12. Berton Klaasen
13. JP du Plessis
14. Poolman
15. Dillion Leyds??

16. ????
17. Tom Botha
18. ???
19. Nick Fenton Wells
20. ???
21. Catrakilis
22. Mbovane

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:34:16 +0000

@ginger judge-37:

oh… okay…

cool…!

enjoy the garden route… spectacular place to live….!!!

By: ginger judge

ginger judge — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:31:25 +0000

@ufo-36: He he. No idea. I left FH a coupla years ago, for the Garden Route. Vic was my haunt. I saw in previous posts that you visit there too.

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:21:47 +0000

@ginger judge-35:

thanks…

okay will do…

do we know each other…?

By: ginger judge

ginger judge — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:13:53 +0000

@ufo-29: I think Elstadt was injured last weekend. The WP locks yesterday were Quinn Roux and Wilhelm van der Sluys. Btw, say hi to Anton next time you are at the Vic.

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:48:28 +0000

@stormersboy-33:

yessuh Mister Stormersboy!!

By: stormersboy

stormersboy — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:37:32 +0000

@ufo-30:

First name “Mister”

Surname “Stormersboy”

Middle name “Danger”

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:32:42 +0000

@the artist formerly known as gunther-27: i heard they're the reason chuck norris won't come to cape town...

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:30:34 +0000

@Robzim-26:

i enjoyed the way he got stuck into heinrich brussow when the cheetahs played at newlands… saw heinrich giving one of his teammates a hard time and didn’t hesitate… and wasn’t shy about letting brussow know it… but didn’t lose his cool either… good to see in a young guy…

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:27:22 +0000

@stormersboy-23:

errr… is your real first name peter by any chance…?

By: ufo

ufo — Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:25:22 +0000

@ginger judge-15:

hey ginger judge… cool nic…

thanks for the info… i didn’t even know we were playing yesterday…

yeah… schalk didn’t really impress before… was hoping the extra 20 would make some difference…

did elstadt get hurt in that game…?