Solly satisfied with Kings’ ‘trials’
17 Feb 2012
Kings coach Alan Solomons says their pre-season matches were all about giving players from across the region the chance to stake a Super Rugby claim.
The South-Eastern Cape franchise has fielded two different teams over the past three weeks against the five South African Super Rugby sides. The Kings team made up of EP players lost 16-12 to the Bulls and 38-13 to the Stormers in PE, and will play the Sharks at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium on Friday night. The Kings side drawn only from Border and SWD, the other two provinces in the franchise, went down 33-20 to the Cheetahs in East London before being thrashed 88-0 by the Lions in George.
‘To play five South African franchises in 20 days is a huge ask, in fact it’s physically impossible to do it with one side,’ Solomons told keo.co.za. ‘Having a combined Border-SWD team helped to break up that schedule. More importantly, it gave us the chance to see all the players in the region play against top quality opposition, which enables us to assess them better. That’s what we wanted to achieve from these five games, nothing more.’
Border players dominated the Border-SWD Kings side and while they were humiliated by the Lions, Solomons says he was pleased with their performance against the Cheetahs.
‘[Border centre] Dwayne Jenner did really well in that game and he’s going to play for us against the Sharks on Friday with Jaco Bekker being out. I was also impressed by [Border flank] Roy Bursey, a young boy from Selborne College who spent a year at the Sharks Academy. [Border flank] Gareth Krause and [SWD No 8] Michael Vermaak also played very well.’
Solomons, though, is realistic and admits the Kings will have to bring in players from outside the region if they are to be competitive in Super Rugby next year.
‘We will be going on a recruitment drive, targeting South Africans in Europe who will be out of contract in June at the end of the current northern-hemisphere season, as well as players from other South African provinces, especially those who hail from the Eastern Cape.’
Southern Kings (to play Sharks) – 15 Tiger Mangweni, 14 Marcello Sampson, 13 Dwayne Jenner, 12 Wayne Stevens, 11 Norman Nelson, 10 Shane Gates, 9 Falie Oelschig, 8 Vleis Engelbrecht, 7 Mpho Mbiyozo, 6 Boetie Britz, 5 David Bulbring, 4 Darron Nell (c), 3 Clint Newland, 2 Hannes Franklin, 1 Jaco Engels.
Subs: 16 Bobby Dyer, 17 Zane Killian, 18 Andre Schlechter, 19 Wayne van Heerden, 20 Reynier Bernardo, 21 Thembelani Bholi, 22 Siya Mangaliso, 22 Danie Faasen, 23 Earl Rose, 24 Matthew Tayler-Smith, 25 Kieran Goss.
By Simon Borchardt, in Port Elizabeth
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17 Feb 2012, 09:45 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-95: You’re right, your analogy is struggling.
But the real pitiful part is really that, in 2012, you’re still filled with little shudders of revulsion at the thought of Letoit and his black girlfriend.
17 Feb 2012, 09:46 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-98: Bwahahahaha!!!!
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-99: Well they are here to stay so I guess we’ll have to stick it out until by some miracle they turn things around……..long road ahead.
17 Feb 2012, 09:49 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-97: He left to take up a coaching position as head coach of Ulster.
When he came back he got involved with the kings.
What a lot of people don’t know is that Alan was a very successful lawyer in Cape Town, a partner in the top CT firm Sonnenburgs.
He was making a great deal more money as an attorney than he stood to make as a coach.
But coaching was his passion and I applaud him for doing that.
17 Feb 2012, 09:50 am
I see Simon Boychick is actually in Port Elizabeth.
Is this an example of this “embedded journalism” I keep hearing about?
17 Feb 2012, 09:51 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-101: You will now be subjected to another analogy.
Something along the lines of “A mossie en ‘n vink kan langs mekaar sit op dieselfde telefoondraad, maar hulle sal nooit paar nie.”
17 Feb 2012, 09:53 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-101:
Incorrect.
I just think that things like say world wide economic collapse, avoiding nuclear proliferation or preventing the imminent depletion of our natural resources are a bit higher on the ladder of priorities than being able to spyker who you want.
So of all the causes “Letoit” etc. could have picked, I mean come on, couldn’t they have been a bit more ambitious?
But then, daggarokers aren’t exactly known for their ambition, are they.
You though, you could aspire to more. I know it.
17 Feb 2012, 09:53 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-105: Die moeilikeid is die mossie het die wil van n hamster en die rug van n hond………
17 Feb 2012, 09:56 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-104: He’s a minstrel in the Kings’ court.
17 Feb 2012, 09:56 am
“Spyker”!!!
17 Feb 2012, 10:00 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-106:
taken in historical and political context…
that song was/is very ambitious indeed…
and not a little courageous…
one thing painting a target on your back on the interweb…
another thing entirely to do it in the real world of apartheid south africa…
17 Feb 2012, 10:00 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-106: Please tell me you’re only trying to be argumentative here.
Letoit wrote and recorded this in 1987.
I’ll say that again. 1987.
That’s like Lennon singing “Give peace a chance” in 1969. Listening to it now, or speaking about it, doesn’t mean we’re still calling for the withdrawal of troops from Vietnam.
Please assure me that you know this.
17 Feb 2012, 10:00 am
Simon has a luncheon appointment with Watsembi
17 Feb 2012, 10:02 am
Wam bam thank you mam!
17 Feb 2012, 10:04 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-112: They’re going to discuss strategy over some nigiri and a glass of chenin. Simon has a couple of press releases and a cunning google ad words campaign he’d like to run by him. While showing him some pie charts that prove their last week of social media coverage is off the fcking charts.
17 Feb 2012, 10:06 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-112:
Sashimi and Fuji mineral water.
Served on a naked dwarf.
17 Feb 2012, 10:06 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-115: Is keo embedded there too?
17 Feb 2012, 10:08 am
Speaking of spyker the kiwis are spitroasting our bowlers.
Longone Tsotsobe is going to be lucky to escape with his manhood in tact.
17 Feb 2012, 10:08 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-111:
Not really interested in this debate.
We will never agree, so what’s the point.
You see these things like they were momentous events in the history of the world. I don’t.
I think I’m gonna dig out some songs from the USA in the 1930′s where some guy is lamenting the Prohibition of alcohol and his longing for a bottle of whisky.
17 Feb 2012, 10:11 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-116:
say no more.
but if lukas spears a cocktail sausage instead of a piece of unagi, then we’ll know for sure.
17 Feb 2012, 10:12 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-118: They were momentous, by the way. The Voëlvry movement did more for the liberation and unblinkering of our generation of Afrikaner than just about anything else. Changed the face of music, literature and art, but also opened people’s eyes and got them thinking. Something that half a century of Afrikaner Chrsitelike Nasionale onderrig tried very hard to prevent. I’m sorry you found yourself on the unfortunate side of the fence when “sht got real”.
17 Feb 2012, 10:13 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-111:
Here you go. Some competition for “Letoit”.
A day is born, July the first
And with it comes a shock
John Barleycorn who quenched your thirst
Passed out at twelve o’clock
The mourners come from far and near
Their bitter tears to shed
July the first, prohibition’s here
And alcohol is dead
[Mourners:]
Alcohol, alcohol
Sorry to see you go
Alcohol, alcohol
Oh, how we’ll miss you so
Fare thee well, fare thee well
Place us in a padded cell
For the country’s going to hell
Now that she’s going dry, dry, dry
We hate to say goodbye
[Bartenders:]
What are we going to do now?
What are we going to do?
Gone are the beer saloons
And we went with them too
The future now looks very black
Because the future points
To red neck-ties and tennis shirts
And sarsparilla joints
Where are we going to work now?
Maybe before we are through
We’ll have to join the soda water crew
We’ll have rouge upon our lips
And our hands upon our hips
Heaven help us when we do
[Chorus Girls:]
Gee, but it’s gonna be tough for the chorus ladies from now on
How are we going to wrestle a Rolls-Royce from a Jack or John?
A little bit of Haig and Haig while we were having sup
Would help to make the tightest Ebeneezer loosen up
But now it’s gonna be tougher
Now we’re going to suffer
Now that the town is growing dry
[The Working Man:]
I want my beer, I want my beer
And there are no two ways about it
I want my beer, I want my beer
I won’t do any work without it
The working man must have his can
To do his work from year to year
Oh, how I wish again
That I was a fish again
Swimming in an ocean of beer
[Soldiers:]
So, this is the land of the free
That awoke when the U-boats were sinking
And told us to go o’er the sea
And protect her liberty
Now I’m just as true as can be
To my land, but I cannot help from thinking
That I should have stayed in Paree
Where no one dares to interfere with what you’re drinking
17 Feb 2012, 10:13 am
Tsotsobe has just been hit for a six of 127 metres!
Holyshit. I never knew that was possible. That has to be some kind of record.
17 Feb 2012, 10:14 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-121: Great stuff. Who is it by? And do you own the album?
17 Feb 2012, 10:16 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-103: Thanks interesting, how successful was he at the Stormers ? Average, good, or not.
Am curious so i can sort of figure out what he can do with the Kings.
17 Feb 2012, 10:16 am
John Barleycorn Is Dead.
17 Feb 2012, 10:18 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-118:
Considering that you’ve chosen your nic Tacitus – after one of the greatest Romans whose specialties were history and oratory…
and Publius Cornelius Tacitus was “known for his penetrating insights into the psychology of power politics,” it is indeed ironic how easily you dismiss another orator and historian…
especially one who recorded your history…
17 Feb 2012, 10:22 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-71: Now you people all understand where I am coming from when I say ol katters has genuine connections to the Soft Shoes.
I guarantee you he knows every word of every ditty that they came out with and has a poster of Daren Scott adjourning his autographed Schalk Naude special on his pub wall
17 Feb 2012, 10:29 am
@ufo(ufo)-126: I think the only tangible connection between our Tac and the Roman is the Romans middle name….. Cornelius.
Eerie connection that!
17 Feb 2012, 10:30 am
@Bod(bod)-128:
how was your all inclusive mini-break in Benidorm?
17 Feb 2012, 10:40 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-129: El Benicadell remains a “must do’ descent for any self respecting mountain bike trail rider.
Beyond belief, el Bod chickened out of the winter Mediterranean swell…. too cold…. too strong and too big! The Mini Mal sayed in the Kango, as the beachfront bar/restaurente in Denia and its roaring fire and almuertza of bocadillo’s and vino tinto remained far more appetising
17 Feb 2012, 10:43 am
Hold on a minute. I thought the point of the Kings was that a whole legion of black players from the Eastern Cape would play for them, having been denied the opportunity of having a team to play for so far (:roll:) thus raising the number of black players and raising the profile of rugby in the black community.
So why the fook are they looking to overseas players to boost their squad next year?
Whichever SA franchise loses out and is left in the cold next year, all those surplus players (once the best have been snapped up by the others) will just move to the Kings to play Super rugby. How does that benefit black people?
17 Feb 2012, 10:45 am
I am finding this mauling we are receiving at the hands of the “might” of Martin Guptil and Tim Southee particularly hard to swallow.
What is going on out there??
17 Feb 2012, 10:47 am
@Bod(bod)-130:
that’s probably wise.
in your cycling gear a seal may have mistaken you for a female of the species and tried some barry white on you.
17 Feb 2012, 10:51 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-133:
Its just a shame you dont get seals in this neck of the woods, oh wise one
17 Feb 2012, 10:54 am
Advice for Solly’s recruitment plans / shopping list, target the following positions:
Tighthead
Reserve Tighthead
Hooker
Nr8
Scrumhalf
Fullback
A top goalkicker
17 Feb 2012, 10:57 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-131: That’s the way BEE works. As long as you have the right folk in the shop window, you can employ whoever you like to do the job.
17 Feb 2012, 10:58 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-136:
And they’re “Voelvry” to keep doing it, so no use complaining..
17 Feb 2012, 11:00 am
@Bod(bod)-132:
guptil is seeing it like a footie.
17 Feb 2012, 11:00 am
17 Feb 2012, 11:02 am
Rusty just got farked by the umpire.
17 Feb 2012, 11:10 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-136: cue transie
17 Feb 2012, 11:12 am
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-141: Transie knows this.
90% of BEE deals do fckall to empower black workers or black business ownership. It’s window dressing to comply with legislation and land business.
17 Feb 2012, 11:14 am
SA truly suck at T20.
17 Feb 2012, 11:20 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-142: but he’ll defend it no doubt.
17 Feb 2012, 11:21 am
Kiwis cannot win anything without cheating.
LBW not given by the ‘Bryce-like’ umpire
They have become so skilled at winning with cheating, in my estimation they are a good 10-15% ahead of the rest of the world
Once a cheat always a cheat
17 Feb 2012, 11:22 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-142:
Indeed.
It’s the fault of cheeky whites trying to bend the rules.
Maevis sits on the board of three companies and she has no clue that they exist.
17 Feb 2012, 11:25 am
South African whites are now more racist then before 1994; more subtle about it but nevertheless still more racist.
That is a fact that cannot be disputed.
17 Feb 2012, 11:29 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-147: That is not true.
See what I just did?
I disputed your statement.
Thereby proving you wrong.
I win!
17 Feb 2012, 11:34 am
Belch
17 Feb 2012, 11:35 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-147: you are d o.o s – probably were before 1994 as well.
that is a fact that cannot be disputed.
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