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	<title>Comments on: Cheetahs set for torturous tour</title>
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		<title>By: bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082615</link>
		<dc:creator>bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082612&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wallabie.(wallabie.)-35&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yep... running &#039;into each other&#039; all game rather than &#039;around each other&#039; is their folly in their Derby games!

As for love lost and provincialism... anyone who hasn&#039;t noticed how a Vic/NSW game or a QLD/NSW  game is fast becoming as venomous as State of Origin... is not watching...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082612" rel="nofollow">wallabie.(wallabie.)-35</a>: </p>
<p>Yep&#8230; running &#8216;into each other&#8217; all game rather than &#8216;around each other&#8217; is their folly in their Derby games!</p>
<p>As for love lost and provincialism&#8230; anyone who hasn&#8217;t noticed how a Vic/NSW game or a QLD/NSW  game is fast becoming as venomous as State of Origin&#8230; is not watching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.(wallabie.)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082612</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.(wallabie.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These saffa tough derbies are figment of many saffas imagination.  The cheetahs and lions were easy 5point fodder for their conference.  Yes the  Brumbies and tahs lost to them but they were riddled with injuries....tahs fielding a complete second team.  A very different side to what the tahs fielded against the reds......injuries happen yes but the cheetahs season was a fluke last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These saffa tough derbies are figment of many saffas imagination.  The cheetahs and lions were easy 5point fodder for their conference.  Yes the  Brumbies and tahs lost to them but they were riddled with injuries&#8230;.tahs fielding a complete second team.  A very different side to what the tahs fielded against the reds&#8230;&#8230;injuries happen yes but the cheetahs season was a fluke last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082611</link>
		<dc:creator>Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From what Ive seen of the Cheetahs they are mediocre at best. I got up at 3.30am to watch them take on the Bulls in what Ive been told is one of those intense take no prisoners SA derbies but alas was mightily disappointed. Where was the heart, especially when the future of the franchise is on the line. 
I&#039;ve heard this talk about the great depth SA Rugby has and the Cheetahs prove it,they are right at the bottom of the barrel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what Ive seen of the Cheetahs they are mediocre at best. I got up at 3.30am to watch them take on the Bulls in what Ive been told is one of those intense take no prisoners SA derbies but alas was mightily disappointed. Where was the heart, especially when the future of the franchise is on the line.<br />
I&#8217;ve heard this talk about the great depth SA Rugby has and the Cheetahs prove it,they are right at the bottom of the barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: willievz(willievz)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082572</link>
		<dc:creator>willievz(willievz)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082435&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;puff(puff)-7&lt;/a&gt;: 

Let&#039;s reestablish the Cats and send either Jantjies or Goosen to the Stormers.

Or maybe not, since we all know what the Stormers do to talented nr10s :roll:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082435" rel="nofollow">puff(puff)-7</a>: </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s reestablish the Cats and send either Jantjies or Goosen to the Stormers.</p>
<p>Or maybe not, since we all know what the Stormers do to talented nr10s <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeez(Jeez)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082534</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeez(Jeez)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cheetahs wont do too badly. I suspect theyll win 2 from 4 on their tour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cheetahs wont do too badly. I suspect theyll win 2 from 4 on their tour.</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082491</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082484&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-30&lt;/a&gt;: I sure as hellhope so.

But something tells me this is just stupid enough a decision for SARU to actually implement it.

Still, there is a silver lining to this cloud: Consider the South African franchise: The current 5 teams have 3 good teams with 2 also rans. The problem with those also rans is that while they roll over and play dead for all the overseas teams, when they play their local counterparts they act as if they actually aren&#039;t as kuk as they appear to be and make life quite hard for their local opponents, in many cases denying them bonus points and sometimes even sneaking a win.

With the Kings there it&#039;ll be a guaranteed 10 points (2 x 5) so the top 3 teams will end up higher on the combined log.

Only some of the overseas teams will get that privilege (of taking a bonus point win), and only once, not twice like we do.

So all in all, win-win really.

Unless you are a Cheetah or a Lion.

In which case it&#039;s, well, lose-win. Or win-lose, depending :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082484" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-30</a>: I sure as hellhope so.</p>
<p>But something tells me this is just stupid enough a decision for SARU to actually implement it.</p>
<p>Still, there is a silver lining to this cloud: Consider the South African franchise: The current 5 teams have 3 good teams with 2 also rans. The problem with those also rans is that while they roll over and play dead for all the overseas teams, when they play their local counterparts they act as if they actually aren&#8217;t as kuk as they appear to be and make life quite hard for their local opponents, in many cases denying them bonus points and sometimes even sneaking a win.</p>
<p>With the Kings there it&#8217;ll be a guaranteed 10 points (2 x 5) so the top 3 teams will end up higher on the combined log.</p>
<p>Only some of the overseas teams will get that privilege (of taking a bonus point win), and only once, not twice like we do.</p>
<p>So all in all, win-win really.</p>
<p>Unless you are a Cheetah or a Lion.</p>
<p>In which case it&#8217;s, well, lose-win. Or win-lose, depending <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wing_14(wing_14)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082484</link>
		<dc:creator>wing_14(wing_14)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082480&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormersboy(stormersboy)-27&lt;/a&gt;: It can still happen, can&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082480" rel="nofollow">stormersboy(stormersboy)-27</a>: It can still happen, can&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082482</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082479&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-26&lt;/a&gt;: You are right about Burton. He&#039;s solid. A couple of years ago he was probably one of the top 3 fly-halves in SA. After Steyn and JLP.

Joe had a bad game, which is odd because he&#039;s usually so reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082479" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-26</a>: You are right about Burton. He&#8217;s solid. A couple of years ago he was probably one of the top 3 fly-halves in SA. After Steyn and JLP.</p>
<p>Joe had a bad game, which is odd because he&#8217;s usually so reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: puff(puff)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082483</link>
		<dc:creator>puff(puff)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheetahs and Lions to keep autonomy during Currie Cup.
Cheetahs and Lions to merge for S15 Season, with Mitchell as head coach and Drotske, Ackermann and Spencer as his assistants.
Griquas to become feeder union for players to be drafted into Kings S15 squad.
Both Jozi and Free State to get S15 games.
Will suck for some players to not have a home base for a good few months, but that&#039;s how the cookie crumbles...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheetahs and Lions to keep autonomy during Currie Cup.<br />
Cheetahs and Lions to merge for S15 Season, with Mitchell as head coach and Drotske, Ackermann and Spencer as his assistants.<br />
Griquas to become feeder union for players to be drafted into Kings S15 squad.<br />
Both Jozi and Free State to get S15 games.<br />
Will suck for some players to not have a home base for a good few months, but that&#8217;s how the cookie crumbles&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082480</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082477&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-25&lt;/a&gt;: ja. First prize would still be to give Cheeky and his entitled bunch of history re-writers the middle finger.

I&#039;d buy a ticket to watch &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; happen.

:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082477" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-25</a>: ja. First prize would still be to give Cheeky and his entitled bunch of history re-writers the middle finger.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d buy a ticket to watch <i>that</i> happen.</p>
<p> <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: wing_14(wing_14)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wing_14(wing_14)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082467&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormersboy(stormersboy)-23&lt;/a&gt;: He is better than v Aswegen, but then again Grant is a Springbok! I feel sorry for Burton, I think he has very good distribution skills and the potential to be a great flyhalf. Let&#039;s hope Grant kicks into gear and set the backline alight, that is of course if our centres can get the ball to the wings. Joe and Gio can kick well out of hand but I was dissapointed with Joe&#039;s goal kicks, too wayward imo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082467" rel="nofollow">stormersboy(stormersboy)-23</a>: He is better than v Aswegen, but then again Grant is a Springbok! I feel sorry for Burton, I think he has very good distribution skills and the potential to be a great flyhalf. Let&#8217;s hope Grant kicks into gear and set the backline alight, that is of course if our centres can get the ball to the wings. Joe and Gio can kick well out of hand but I was dissapointed with Joe&#8217;s goal kicks, too wayward imo</p>
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		<title>By: wing_14(wing_14)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wing_14(wing_14)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082472&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormersboy(stormersboy)-24&lt;/a&gt;: fair point their SB, just hope they can sort it out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082472" rel="nofollow">stormersboy(stormersboy)-24</a>: fair point their SB, just hope they can sort it out</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/03/06/cheetahs-set-for-torturous-tour/#comment-2082472</link>
		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082464&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-21&lt;/a&gt;: Well let&#039;s put it this way: Currently they are both in deepshit.

And it won&#039;t get any better if one of them get relegated. Currently they aren&#039;t even half filling the stadiums. With a cats team I suspect they&#039;ll do much better.

If they get their marketing sorted out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082464" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-21</a>: Well let&#8217;s put it this way: Currently they are both in deepshit.</p>
<p>And it won&#8217;t get any better if one of them get relegated. Currently they aren&#8217;t even half filling the stadiums. With a cats team I suspect they&#8217;ll do much better.</p>
<p>If they get their marketing sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082461&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-20&lt;/a&gt;: I think he made a big difference when he came on, i hope he continues to play that way. I have major reservations about his ability to get his line away as well as clear into opposing territory. Maybe Joe can slot in and take those clearing kicks. Or Gio. For a little &#039;un he kicks like a mule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082461" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-20</a>: I think he made a big difference when he came on, i hope he continues to play that way. I have major reservations about his ability to get his line away as well as clear into opposing territory. Maybe Joe can slot in and take those clearing kicks. Or Gio. For a little &#8216;un he kicks like a mule.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeez(Jeez)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeez(Jeez)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cheetahs could possibly win 3 out of 4... Brumbies, will be rusty after their weekend off... Rebels are possibly the worst team in the comp. The Crusaders should win easily and lastly the Hurricanes game should be 50/50 if the cheetahs can keep the game from getting too loose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cheetahs could possibly win 3 out of 4&#8230; Brumbies, will be rusty after their weekend off&#8230; Rebels are possibly the worst team in the comp. The Crusaders should win easily and lastly the Hurricanes game should be 50/50 if the cheetahs can keep the game from getting too loose.</p>
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		<title>By: wing_14(wing_14)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wing_14(wing_14)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082460&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormersboy(stormersboy)-19&lt;/a&gt;: will it be worthwhile (financially) for both unions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082460" rel="nofollow">stormersboy(stormersboy)-19</a>: will it be worthwhile (financially) for both unions?</p>
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		<title>By: wing_14(wing_14)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wing_14(wing_14)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082458&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stormersboy(stormersboy)-18&lt;/a&gt;: What did you think of Bash this weekend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082458" rel="nofollow">stormersboy(stormersboy)-18</a>: What did you think of Bash this weekend?</p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082448&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wing_14(wing_14)-14&lt;/a&gt;: That&#039;s not what a little birdie told me..... ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082448" rel="nofollow">wing_14(wing_14)-14</a>: That&#8217;s not what a little birdie told me&#8230;.. <img src='http://keo.co.za/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: stormersboy(stormersboy)</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormersboy(stormersboy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2082456&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Galt(John Galt)-17&lt;/a&gt;: I think the canes will give them a good hiding if they continue to play the way they have (both teams)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2082456" rel="nofollow">John Galt(John Galt)-17</a>: I think the canes will give them a good hiding if they continue to play the way they have (both teams)</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt(John Galt)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Galt(John Galt)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cheetahs will beat the Brumbies and go close against the Rebels I reckon. The Rebels new signings will be the difference there. 

After beating them last year at home, expect the men from the States to get drilled by the Saders and then they&#039;ll give the Canes a good run. 
That really is not a very good Canes side is it? Certainly not the quality of years gone by. 

I dont believe the the Cheetahs will be totally embarrased away this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cheetahs will beat the Brumbies and go close against the Rebels I reckon. The Rebels new signings will be the difference there. </p>
<p>After beating them last year at home, expect the men from the States to get drilled by the Saders and then they&#8217;ll give the Canes a good run.<br />
That really is not a very good Canes side is it? Certainly not the quality of years gone by. </p>
<p>I dont believe the the Cheetahs will be totally embarrased away this year.</p>
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