Canes hammer feeble Force
9 Mar 2012
RYAN VREDE reports on the Hurricanes’ 46-19 victory over the Force in Perth.
You know that aunt that talks all the time but actually says nothing? This was the Force. The Perth franchise completely bossed possession and territory but were so impotent at the gainline and so static or lateral and predictable in their attacks that the Canes simply fanned out and waited from the next unimaginative play. When the Force erred the Canes were clinical in taking their opportunities, particularly from broken field. Five chances, five tries. Thanks for coming.
The talk from the Force’s camp this week was about staying compact and direct in their attacks. Patience through phases was stressed and high-risk play deep in their half discouraged. The Force, however, looked every bit a team struggling to suppress their natural instinct.
When they played through phases effectively they looked like they would be comfortable winners. But they botched numerous scoring opportunities while in the Canes’ 22m.
The Canes, having come into this match off the back of extensive travel, didn’t ever look like building pressure through structured play. Their primary threat was from broken field and, when, following a turnover, Canes fullback Andre Taylor cut through the defence from within his 22m and made about 60m in a move that culminated in a try for impressive debutant scrumhalf TJ Perenara, their preferred method was made clear.
The Canes are two from three with a couple of home matches to come. They are defying expectations following the departure of a string of All Blacks. For the Force its more of the depressing fare their supporters have become all too used to.
The Force’s troubles extended to their tactical kicking, which was largely imprecise and fed the Canes’ back three with counter-attacking opportunities. The hosts did score through Matt Hogson, but then conceded two tries in five minutes just before the break to leave them trailing 22-10 going down the tunnel.
The Canes effectively sealed the result and four-try bonus point 10 minutes into the second half, this time a scrappy backline move featuring ugly hacks ahead somehow ending in Perenara grabbing a hat-trick.
Two Stannard penalties made it a 10 point game with 20 minutes to play, but Canes reserve Daniel Kirkpatrick put the Canes two converted tries ahead with a three pointer. Cameron Shepherd came close to reducing the deficit but he was bundled into touch in a move that should have stayed close to the breakdown point of the previous phase. That was the best rebuttal the Force could muster, the Canes’ Jason Eaton and Charlie Ngatai rubbed salt into their wounds with late tries.
111 Comments
9 Mar 2012, 12:10 pm
go canes dragons!
9 Mar 2012, 12:23 pm
Canes by 10.
9 Mar 2012, 12:52 pm
Canes to cause upset here.
9 Mar 2012, 12:53 pm
@willievz(willievz)-3: would it really be an upset?
9 Mar 2012, 12:55 pm
Anyone have a link to watching it online?
9 Mar 2012, 12:59 pm
@President_of_the_Sharks_rugby_experts(sharks_lover)-4:
According to some bookies and the travel fatigue experts? Yes.
According to me? No.
9 Mar 2012, 13:00 pm
@Suspence(Suspence)-5: I’m at work so can’t access it, but try the rugby tabs under myp2p.pe
9 Mar 2012, 13:02 pm
Thanks willie will have a look
9 Mar 2012, 13:03 pm
yes please hurricanes.
have gambled on a win for them.
9 Mar 2012, 13:06 pm
What happened to my post now?
Oh well. Go the Force
@Suspence(Suspence)-8:
Also Google ”Lemon tv”. Just scroll down and you’ll find the link
9 Mar 2012, 13:11 pm
I see an upset on the books … either team winning here will be an upset!
9 Mar 2012, 13:12 pm
Eish…
“Elton Jantjies and Patric Cilliers were late withdrawals from the team, due to a foot injury and a stomach bug, respectively. Caylib Oosthuizen and Alwyn Hollenbach have been moved into the starting line up with Ruan Dreyer and Andries Coetzee being called up to the bench. “
9 Mar 2012, 13:17 pm
Both teams are poor,especially upfront.
9 Mar 2012, 13:21 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-12: That’s a fukup for sure. Now the teams are pretty evenly matched.
9 Mar 2012, 13:21 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-12:
fark no!
i bet on a lions win dammit!
9 Mar 2012, 13:24 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-15: Lions still going to take it
9 Mar 2012, 13:28 pm
yes cmon force!
9 Mar 2012, 13:29 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-14: lol funny comment.
9 Mar 2012, 13:30 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-12:
The coming 20 point victory should not give the Sharks false complacency that all is hunky dory in their camp now. They still need to change their captain.
It is simply the Lions lack of depth that is starting to bite them in the arse.
9 Mar 2012, 13:30 pm
scores to be level soon.
9 Mar 2012, 13:31 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-12: damn thats 15 points gone right there.
9 Mar 2012, 13:32 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-20: ah i put the commentators curse on him! avada kedevra!
9 Mar 2012, 13:33 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-19: Bulls have shown with some fresh faces come new energy. I hope this will be the case with the Lions. Our prop situation is starting to worry me a bit.
9 Mar 2012, 13:36 pm
How would a combined Lions/Cheetahs team look?
Taute
Killian
Rayno Benjamin
Doppies
Ebersohn
Johan Goosen
Tewis de Bruyn
Ashley Johnson
Heinrich Brussouw
Minnie
Josh Straus
Franco vd Merwe
Coenie
Adriaan Strauss
WP Nel
Even that is not a competitive Super Rugby team.
9 Mar 2012, 13:36 pm
stannard what happened to your boots buddy!
9 Mar 2012, 13:37 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-23:
Uhmm, no offense, but that’s like Bob saying the strength of the Zim dollar is starting to worry him a tad..
9 Mar 2012, 13:38 pm
@HHS(Hop Hop Spinnekop)-16:
ok thanks, that very reassuring
if all goes to plan will make about R4000 after discounting my losses on those stupid ‘non script reading’ crusaders.. if all goes to plan…
9 Mar 2012, 13:46 pm
No force you guys cant slip up like that!
9 Mar 2012, 13:48 pm
So it looks like home victories were not a good way to go on Superbru this week.
This season really is a lottery.
9 Mar 2012, 13:50 pm
The Force is hopeless!
9 Mar 2012, 13:51 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-29: True.
9 Mar 2012, 13:52 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-24: Only an idiot would pick that team. Ryno Benjamin? WP Nel? Tewis de Bruyn? Ashley Johnson? Okay, so you’re trying to prove some point, but you still need to remain relatively credible.
9 Mar 2012, 13:54 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-29:
Yeah, it was interesting to see how Vrede and JC also took a decision to back the home teams, and then spent time justifying their picks based on rugby reasons.
9 Mar 2012, 13:56 pm
@David(David)-33: It’s only week three, and both Vrede and JC are completely panic stricken when it comes to publicly picking the weekend’s results. And it shows. They both wish they hadn’t started down this road in the first place.
9 Mar 2012, 13:57 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-32:
Would you have the SPEEDSTER Killian rather?
9 Mar 2012, 13:57 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-32:
I was doing an honest job on this one. I couldn’t think of better options. Is Deon van Rensburg really a wing? I thought he is actually a centre.
Do the Lions have ANY decent props – at least better than WP Nel?
That Bondesio’s pass goes all over the place, except into Jantjies’s hands. If you still had Vermaak, then sure, but Bondesio reached his ceiling at the Pumas, and the fact that you’re forced to field him as your first choice no.9 is kind of embarrassing.
Point is, there’s very little talent spread between the Lions and Cheetahs this year.
Now, this is not an argument supporting the Kings inclusion, as you know all too well my view of them. Whatever talent limitations the Cats region may experience, the black hole of the Eastern Cape is a million times worse still.
But the point is, it is not realistic to expect a decent tournament performance with the little talent at your disposal in Jo’burg and Bloem. Mitch is good, but he’s not a miracle worker.
9 Mar 2012, 13:58 pm
@Hoops(Hoops)-35:
I had Killian there in the first place.
And he IS a speedster. But he is carrying a long term hamstring injury at the moment, and shouldn’t even have been playing against the Canes.
9 Mar 2012, 13:58 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-29: Crusaders still have no home – they played their “home” game in Napier – Chiefs territory
9 Mar 2012, 13:59 pm
If the Canes win here I will have 2 from 2.
9 Mar 2012, 13:59 pm
So Snake (Conrad Smith) realizes the try is on for the Force and then obstructs the player deliberately.
He should have been sent for 5 years
9 Mar 2012, 14:03 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-34:
Truth is that it is senseless to claim credit for a correct victory pick if the margin was so close that the game could have gone either way.
Like the Saders-Chiefs game this morning, or the Stormers-Sharks game a week ago.
There was no difference in quality between the Sharks and Stormers, – in fact the Sharks had more linebreaks. If one guy kicked a bit better, or one guy took one different option, then the result goes the other way.
I feel satisfied at making a good pick if my team outplayed the opposition. But if it goes down to the wire, then any prediction was meaningless, as a single random event could have made the result go the other way.
9 Mar 2012, 14:08 pm
Cane’s team should beat these no-name brands
Nathan Blunt should have retired already. Pocock can only have success if Bryce is officiating
But Snake is a real snake
9 Mar 2012, 14:09 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-24: You really are an idiot you know. It’s fine choosing a cheetah’s\\lions combo , but you really look stupid when anyone who analyzes the team will see you’ve chosen quite a few 2nd choice franchise players. See my comments below.
Taute – Agreed
Killian – debatable
Rayno Benjamin – 2nd choice this season
Doppies -not in preferred position. battling with ebersohn for 13
Ebersohn – see doppies
Johan Goosen- debatable. depends on your preferences for blue\green eyed blonde boys
Tewis de Bruyn – k@k. pvz better
Ashley Johnson – 2nd choice. raubeheimer above him and strauss above that.
Heinrich Brussouw – Agreed
Minnie – Agreed. consider juan smith as well
Josh Straus – 8 or 6
Franco vd Merwe – Agreed
Coenie – agreed
Adriaan Strauss – Agreed
WP Nel – debatable. P Cilliers really performing
Then there’s butch, whitely, mapoe, jc jvr, maku, s ebersohn, wickus, rhodes,
a few more i can’t remember.
9 Mar 2012, 14:11 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-37:
Always something for these over rated players hey…..was he a Stormer this board would be smacking of insults on his speed…or lack there off……point is….he was outpaced by quite a bit in quite a short distance…..mediocre if you ask me!
Tac, what did you think of our front row performances so far?
9 Mar 2012, 14:12 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-41: all predictions have an element of chance in them. You can justify your choice with numerous reasons, but you are just as right\wrong about the prediction before the game.
9 Mar 2012, 14:15 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-43:
Great.
I named all the guys I could remember, from those two teams.
Guys like Raubenheimer, Van Zyl etc. – Whatever. If you think that strengthens the team, then be my guest.
The point is, half the guys you moan about, you replace with other equally mediocre players.
Anyway, the combined team is still a sh*t team.
9 Mar 2012, 14:18 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-46: i’m actually gonna make an effort today to dispute all your claims. you know i’m a simple guy. All i ask for is proof. do that and i’m happy.
9 Mar 2012, 14:21 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-47:
Feel free to dispute.
I merely pointed out the weakness of the Lions and Cheetahs squads this season.
I have no vested interest in proving it to be true. In fact, I want them to be strong to keep the useless Kings and Cheeky’s grubby hands away from Super rugby.
But it seems events are conspiring in the wannabe freeloaders’ favour nonetheless
9 Mar 2012, 14:22 pm
You know, as kak as the Lions supposedly are, at least they gave the ‘Canes a game for 80min. The Force don’t even look capable of that.
9 Mar 2012, 14:23 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-46:
Baas Tac
Jou span se kaptein het nou die dag hier in my straat af kom stap, hy en sy vrou en stootwaentjie
Big unit
9 Mar 2012, 14:23 pm
@Tartan(Tartan)-49:
Well that’s because 2 of the Aussie teams are in wooden spoon contention, and the third one is only spared from that thanks to the existence of the first two.
9 Mar 2012, 14:24 pm
@Tartan(Tartan)-49: True. Both away games for the Canes. So the Lions should be about 10 points too good for the Force in Perth, and closer on 20 in Joburg.
9 Mar 2012, 14:24 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-50:
What’s he doing risking the life of his wife and child by venturing into your kind of neigbourhood?
9 Mar 2012, 14:25 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-53: Seker gaan dagga koop.
9 Mar 2012, 14:28 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-54:
Hehe.
But back to my previous line of argument.
I’m not trying to denigrate the Lions here out of spite. I just think they have very poor depth, and if Altman “Fix-it-all” Allers can’t give them R20m to buy some international level players they aren’t gonna go anywhere at Super Rugby level in the next 3 years.
You can’t take on the Crusaders with the team you have at the moment.
9 Mar 2012, 14:29 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-51:
Haha, that’s one way of putting it. Brumbies v Cheetahs will be interesting to say the least.
9 Mar 2012, 14:32 pm
Combined team:
15 Daniller
14 Taute
13 Eberson
12 Doppies
11 Not sure
10 Elton (He proved his superiority against the Cheetahs)
9 Tewis
8 Johnson/Strauss
7Johnson/Strauss
6. Brusow
5. Franco
4. Roodt
3. WP Nel
2 Strauss
1. DoodpoesCoenie
16 CJ
17 Minnie
18 Visagie
19 Raubenheimer
20 Bondisio
21 Goosen
22 The Butcher
Then you have guys like Sias and a host of other guys to give depth.
All in all a pretty good team if you ask me. Lacking in cohesiveness which was always the Cats’ biggest problem.
Anyway that’s my take on it.
9 Mar 2012, 14:33 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-53:
I once ignored Anton Leonard in Woolies – pretended I did not recognize him and he talked louder and louder
As is to say: but you must recognize me
Just realized that all the Bulls players I bump into are always in Woolies; Gary Botha, Werner Kruger (smaller than what I thought he was)
Gary also the ‘harde bek type’ : Pappa het mos nou vir jou gesê jy al genoeg speelgoed sussa
Selfs Johan Ackerman en Hannes Strydom , now those guys are big
I wish I could record the moment when they think you’re not recognizing them
9 Mar 2012, 14:34 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-52:
We’ll see. I do think at some point if the Lions can get a fit first-choice team out there and things click they will really moer some team.
The Force are so bad the Rebels will legitimately be thinking about turning them over, so no reason it won’t be them.
9 Mar 2012, 14:38 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-58: Packing their bags doesn’t count as “bumping into them”.
9 Mar 2012, 14:38 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-58:
Why is everyone talking to you at Woolies? You work behind the till?
Or in the aisles?
9 Mar 2012, 14:39 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-58:
And more importantly, why are you placing your job in jeopardy by ignoring the customers when they talk to you?
9 Mar 2012, 14:41 pm
Family of mine does some bookings for bulls players…….
They are mostly “It is Gary speaking…..BULLS RUGBY PLAYER….” type okes!
They must make sure you know who they are!
9 Mar 2012, 14:43 pm
The Force are kak. You’d never think this team is just back from an SA tour, ‘Canes are going to be quite happy with their points total.
9 Mar 2012, 14:47 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-62:
I’m being deliberate of course
I give you enough grief
I can see you’re ‘skarreling’ to get the insults in
9 Mar 2012, 14:49 pm
Yes Jason Eaton Fantasy points!
@Tartan(Tartan)-64: True. They played two tough games and had to fly against time.
9 Mar 2012, 14:49 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-62:
Tell me now: Dezi or Angelique, and why?
9 Mar 2012, 14:52 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-57:
doodpoesCoenie
9 Mar 2012, 14:56 pm
@Tartan(Tartan)-64: The Force are super kak.
9 Mar 2012, 14:57 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-68: As he will now forever be known as. At least by me
9 Mar 2012, 14:58 pm
@Tartan(Tartan)-64: Why is kak allowed?
Testicles 1 2 Testicles 1 2 …..*******?
9 Mar 2012, 14:59 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-62: Car park attendants. Go figure.
9 Mar 2012, 15:00 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-71: My test worked
9 Mar 2012, 15:01 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-61: He is obviously the Sheriff at Woolies…..keeping all the lambswool jerseys in check!
9 Mar 2012, 15:03 pm
I think all the rude words that Keo uses is allowed here.
9 Mar 2012, 15:03 pm
Kyk as ek dit my ‘way’ het dan laat skrap ek twee woorde in die Afrikaanse taal, veral hier in die Transvaal en hierdie woorde is:
‘seuna’ en ‘sussa’
Die Kapenaars praat nie so nie sover my kennis strek, maar ek is oop om verkeerd te wees.
Hulle sê mos: iek gaan dorp toe
9 Mar 2012, 15:08 pm
Two from two for me.
Next upset? Cheetahs tomorrow.
9 Mar 2012, 15:09 pm
I realized afterwards that in mentioning ‘Woolies’ some may perceive it as a subtle status message from me
To those who regard it as a privilege to shop at Woolies my response is simply: their prices are not always higher than competitors. In other words you may well feel comfortable shopping at PnP but you could be paying more than for equiv products at Woolies
It’s time to move on the feelings of illegitimacy and shame
9 Mar 2012, 15:10 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-76: lol is that boy and girl? Yip never heard that in Cape Town. Djy wiet dan! lol
9 Mar 2012, 15:11 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-48: you have no interest in whether they succeed or not, yet you took the time to select a team which justifies your view that they are not a good team.i’d say that’s taking interest. i suppose your boiterous nature this week is well earned after the Bulls anihilated the cheetahs last week. Could it be that the Bulls were as good as the Cheetahs were bad and that tomorrows game will give a better indication of the progress.
9 Mar 2012, 15:11 pm
doos
****
piel
arse
***
*******
****
fuckhead
****
********
****
****
******
******
coon
****
**********
naai
naaier
holnaai
prick
*****
9 Mar 2012, 15:11 pm
Good Day almal
9 Mar 2012, 15:13 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-75:
some are blocked and some are not i guess, vulgar/offensive terms.
9 Mar 2012, 15:13 pm
@willievz(willievz)-77: 0 from 2 for me. i have cheetahs by 3.
9 Mar 2012, 15:13 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-81: Tourettes?
9 Mar 2012, 15:14 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-79:
Yeah ‘seuna’ is what you would use to refer to a boy, ‘sussa’ for a little girl, particularly mother to daughter
9 Mar 2012, 15:15 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-83: why is m o n k e y blocked but not kak? lol
9 Mar 2012, 15:15 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-81: Skopskiet meets Porra?
9 Mar 2012, 15:17 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-87:
Good spot !!
9 Mar 2012, 15:18 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-86: That sounds like it can get irritating very quickly!
9 Mar 2012, 15:20 pm
@willievz(willievz)-89: Keo clearly doesnt want to insult the *******.
9 Mar 2012, 15:21 pm
kakmonkey
9 Mar 2012, 15:24 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-90:
You must understand one thing: it is easy to criticise people from a distance
Tacitus here for instance would want to vomit when he hears someone using words like ‘djy, djou, verstaan djy’ He really dispises it
Another one will also take offence at the usage of the phrase: ‘sharp-sharp’
And so on. Look I can speak Afrikaner but I merely highlighted those 2 words.
The challenge for us is to become more cross-cultural and be more tolerant even though it may not be our ‘way’
9 Mar 2012, 15:25 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-85:
no he mentioned kak being allowed so i was wondering what words are on the banned list and tried a few.
and yes, i know it was a rhetorical comedy type question by you but thought i’d give an answer any way.
9 Mar 2012, 15:29 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-19: I sooooo hate to agree with you
but I cannot the Sharks need a thinking captain that does not go missing in action and does not have brain farts in the wrong part of the field 
9 Mar 2012, 15:31 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-87:
yes, it has obvious racial tones in the new sa so is a no-no, but a kak rugby team is still a kak rugby team… whether in the old sa or the new.
i see neeger is also blocked but i feel its really an american term and is very current and hip even, to use in many settings.
@Beertjie(Beertjie)-88:
and skop says he’s sober when he goes on his rants… not too sure about that…
9 Mar 2012, 15:34 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-92:
ja, will try some:
fuckmonkey
naaimonkey
assmonkey
9 Mar 2012, 15:44 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-93: Ook waar.
9 Mar 2012, 15:44 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-95:
tac has some strange and confusing type of blood fued love/hate admiration (like in romeo & juliet or the english with the french) thing going on between himself, the bulls and the sharks.
for this reason he gives the sharks all this grudging ‘cowboy at the ok corral / rambo / steven seagal / geronimo to the cavalry’ type nodding respect and talks them up… believing them to be the only real contenders to the bulls in the last decade.
he can be silly at times, but is often called out when being so.. most times…
9 Mar 2012, 15:51 pm
The pathetic Kings are getting another beating. Super 15 pftt
9 Mar 2012, 15:56 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-100: Against the Pampas? What is the score? And how far into the match?
9 Mar 2012, 16:08 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-99: That is why he makes the most sense
9 Mar 2012, 16:15 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-102:
hehe
i can see he’s gonna like you
9 Mar 2012, 16:17 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-102:
and yes… i see what you did there…
9 Mar 2012, 18:10 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-100:spoke too soo didn’t ya? bwahaha
9 Mar 2012, 18:10 pm
@goyougoodthing2(goyougoodthing2)-100:spoke too soon didn’t ya? bwahaha
9 Mar 2012, 18:27 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-106:
You enjoyed that so much that you had to say it twice.
9 Mar 2012, 19:04 pm
just check how the feeble infelicitous dweebs flock together in common cause unison hoping, nay praying, that EC Kings get slaughtered by all and anyone so that the common cause agenda to exclude them out the SA rugby landscape has a better chance of success…
well they screwed them in the eye this time.. they bounced back and won.. against the groundswell of hoping baying praying nay saying multifaceted negation seekers who were waiting with baited breath to shout it out loud in unison… ‘Quota’ – skop the bloater in the bollocks .. so better luck next time.. perhaps they comply or conspire to give the nee der landers another chance to express their ingrained ingratiated loathsomeness for Cheeky and his cheary chommies to chomp the cheerless dust.
9 Mar 2012, 19:12 pm
No game tonight??????
10 Mar 2012, 05:18 am
Force were impotent couldn’t get it up in the Gang Bang Capital of Australia, full stop. Hurricanes on the other hand performed for eighty minutes and made Nz proud.
10 Mar 2012, 10:43 am
Hurricanes, 9 points from the road trip to the far timezones.
Even the most opimistic of Canes fans never expected this.
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