Mallett free to take up England post
9 Mar 2012
Nick Mallett has told the RFU that he will be available to coach England when they tour South Africa in June.
According to the Daily Mail, Mallett had direct contact with the RFU on a visit to England recently. This report contradicts earlier information that Mallett had only spoken to the chief executive via conference call while still in Cape Town.
The newspaper’s sources confirm that Mallett is willing to coach England after the Six Nations.
Another former Springbok coach in Jake White has been heavily linked with the post. However, on Friday White emphatically stressed his commitment to the Brumbies. ‘I’m here for four years with the Brumbies. I’ve signed on the bottom line and you’ve got to judge people by their actions. Nothing’s changed, I’m still committed to the Brumbies,’ White said.
82 Comments
9 Mar 2012, 08:12 am
nick the magic dragon will be the POm coach…
you read it here…
9 Mar 2012, 08:15 am
We have to get these guys back in SA…
9 Mar 2012, 08:20 am
@Caper(Caper)-2:
hehehe
nick will be back…
in june…
with a rose between his teeth…!!
9 Mar 2012, 08:22 am
well he’s gonna start his tenure off with a 3 nil whitewash, oops.
hope it gets better from there on in, of course if anyone could rebuild england it should be him.
9 Mar 2012, 08:33 am
Heyneke giving Nick a thrashing.
I can’t think of many things for satisfying.
9 Mar 2012, 08:36 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-5:
here’s something we can agree on…!!
9 Mar 2012, 08:40 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-5:
for = more
9 Mar 2012, 08:43 am
Sorry Jake.
9 Mar 2012, 08:47 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-5:
PdV already did that to Nick – but I guess you did not notice
9 Mar 2012, 08:57 am
Jake White should stick it out at he Brumbies.
Otherwise he is in danger of damaging his credibility as a coach.
He has flitted around for a while and is starting to develop a reputation of someone who startts something but doesn’t finish.
Consider the botched Lions intervention.
White should honour his Brumbies contract and get the franchise back to being Super 15 playoff contenders.
Then he can look to coach an international side again.
Time is on his side.
He is young enough.
He just needs some patience.
Let Mallett take on England for now.
9 Mar 2012, 09:04 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-9:
Err…you mean when Nick coached Italy?
Don’t make me larf.
9 Mar 2012, 09:11 am
So it’s starting to look like Meyer’s coaching staff will consist of:
Erasmus
Nienabur
Loubscher
and possibly Matfield
9 Mar 2012, 09:21 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-9:
nothing wrong with celebrating pdivvy klapping mallet and the eye-ties…
and celebrating heineken-bru doing the same thing…
they are not mutually exclusive…
strange you take that stance when it was not implied at all in tac’s post…
actually not strange at all..
using your logic… you’re obviously backing mallet and the poms to klap meyer and the boks…
9 Mar 2012, 09:37 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-11:
Is PdV’s fault that Mallett could not secure a coaching role with a bigger rugby nation?
Why do you want to blame PdV for everything?
9 Mar 2012, 09:38 am
@ufo(ufo)-13:
I read your post to understand your logic, bah there is none
Talking of logic, I dont think you have the logic to understand my logic
9 Mar 2012, 09:59 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-14:
will it be heyneke’s fault that pdv will never secure a coaching role with another rugby nation that could possibly face the boks..?.. thus not giving heyneke an opportunity to give pdivvy a coaching lesson in the rugby equivalent of brutal male anal rape..?..hmm..?
no, in this case i do blame pdv for this and i blame him alone.
9 Mar 2012, 10:05 am
Did the Poms only ask 2nd-rate whinging Yappies to apply for the job ?
9 Mar 2012, 10:07 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-14:
Why even bring Divvy into this? I wasn’t talking about Divvy. I was talking about Heyneke taking the arrogant Mallet down a notch or two.
9 Mar 2012, 10:09 am
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-16:
That letter was not addressed to you; why do you open other people’s mail?
I bet you also talk with food in your mouth
9 Mar 2012, 10:17 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-18:
Yes Mallett is arrogant.
I understand perfectly what you were saying; mine was an optimistic attempt to show you that Mallett needed to go and shake PdV’s hand before; you will recall that PdV was once Mallett’s quota coach
Even Ted had to go and shake PdV’s hand when PdV’s Boks thrashed the ABs
Bah… yes I am always in favour of the arrogant to be humbled, so on this one you have my vote (conjures up memories of the 1992 yes- no referendum)
31.27% said ‘no’ that day – 875, 619 in total; were you one of them?
9 Mar 2012, 10:18 am
Deputy Dawg @ 15
Hehehe…
A rational, reasoned well thought out response…
not…
sheesh… you make yourself look so silly I almost feel sorry for you…
9 Mar 2012, 10:23 am
@ufo(ufo)-21:
One thing you can learn from me is this: less is more
Posts should always be short and to the point
9 Mar 2012, 10:26 am
My other concern with Mallett taking of the England coaching role and taking on the Boks with Meyer as coach, could ‘conjure’ up images to some of an Anglo Boer War
Boer teen Engelsman
Some would look to Meyer to rectify the wrongs of the ‘scorched earth policy’ which is unfair
9 Mar 2012, 10:29 am
hugh: coach, what are the findings of the post mortem?
coach: n watse goed?
hugh: post mortem, its latin.
coach: hey fokkoff! do i look like a bladdy latin american..?.. you know not everyone with brown skin and a big biker moustache is mexican my friend…thats bladdy racialistic you poepholl.
hugh: they dont speak latin in latin america coach…but tell us, what happened in that quarter final?
coach: ag ja hugh, you know i thought about it a lot you know uh and i realised what happened, australia scored more points than us…
hugh: but why? i mean given how dominant the boks were it should have been a status quo, ipso facto you should have won.
coach: hey! ipso fark jou my friend! seriously, fokkoff with your latin, i’m not a mexican.
hugh: wonderful, wonderful stuff. so any advice for the next springbok coach?
coach: ja look man, at the end of the day you know when all is said and done in the final analysis when you get right down to it after you seperated the sheep from the goats when the chips are down..errr.. what was the question..?…
hugh: any advice for the new coach?
coach: ja, score more points.
hugh: unbelievable, unbelievable…
9 Mar 2012, 10:33 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-20: Think Tac wasnt old enough to have voted in 92.
9 Mar 2012, 10:37 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-23: Hey, that sht was never addressed. There was no TRC with tears and apologies. No washing of the feet and no reparations. In fact, the only acknowledgement that it ever happened came in the form of monuments built by the descendants of the victims themselves. So if the Poms, under Mallet, were to have their arses handed to them by the Boks, under Meyer, it would be pretty groovy on a number of levels.
9 Mar 2012, 10:39 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-23:
Maybe.
But then again you now have a Botha plying his trade in the white jersey, not a Boer war hero in this scenario.
9 Mar 2012, 10:39 am
@Taahirah(Taahirah)-25:
He was born in 1972 so he was 19 turning 20 at the time
He may have selected not to cast his vote as part of a ‘weg-bly protes aksie’
9 Mar 2012, 10:40 am
DD @ 22
when do you ever make a point…?
first you have a go a tac for his point… now you agree with his point…
So as far as making a point… logical or not… you don’t…
one point you can count on is I won’t be needing no learnin’ from you
9 Mar 2012, 10:42 am
@ufo(ufo)-29:
he has no point.
in fact there is no point to him at all.
9 Mar 2012, 10:45 am
Gunther @ 30
yeah… pretty pointless…
9 Mar 2012, 10:46 am
Sherrif
Where on earth did you come by the idea that I was born in that year?
Skop’s stool sample?
9 Mar 2012, 10:50 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-32:
our Omar is a gentleman.
he is alway’s offering to push in someone’s stool.
9 Mar 2012, 10:50 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-26:
This is one of the core flaws in psyche of Afrik of those generations. Because they are/were primarily task-orientated they failed to understand the implications emotionally, let alone spiritually
They bounced back and in 1949 inaugurated what is essentially a sun worship structure, but that’s a story for another day and let’s not forget Ap*rtheid
So to look for healing through the Boks may well be wrong way to go
Any win, most notably over the southern hem teams = what we need more of
9 Mar 2012, 10:51 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-32: No, Skop’s stool reading has you down as late ’75.
9 Mar 2012, 10:51 am
Sport24 reporting that Jake has decided not to apply for the English job.
9 Mar 2012, 10:51 am
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-27:
They would see him as a boereverraaier or ‘hensopper’
9 Mar 2012, 10:53 am
Katman
Either that or early ’57. Either way, he is confident that he is 100% accurate.
9 Mar 2012, 10:53 am
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-24: how many times is this to be posted?
9 Mar 2012, 10:53 am
@Kietzphat(Kietzphat)-36: He saw Mallet in the queue and thought, “aw, fukket”.
9 Mar 2012, 10:56 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-40:
Maybe Mallett will approach him to be a video analyst again.
“We’ll resurrect the old firm!”
But Mallett will be having a laugh.
9 Mar 2012, 10:57 am
DD @ 22
“One thing you can learn from me is this: less is more
Posts should always be short and to the point”
Tac made his point in two lines…
You waffled on for four or five posts and many more words… only to eventually agree with Tac’s succinct “less is more” approach…!!!
better get a few more qualifications and a bit more experience before volunteering any teaching services!!
9 Mar 2012, 11:00 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-32:
I cannot be far out
For example many pyl males deal with army issues, so you can calculate the ages and not be far out
I build a profile of you, what you say, how you say, your sense of humour and the like
Put it this way, if you were to commit a crime I would locate you within 2 days max if approached by the cops
9 Mar 2012, 11:02 am
heyneke respects nick a lot, he said as much when he was interviewed by xolas ntshinga, he is very grateful of everything mallet did for him – opportunities. mallett mentored heyneke
9 Mar 2012, 11:03 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-33:
Dit help nie om by my aan te lê
I am straight (to the point)
9 Mar 2012, 11:03 am
Hehe.
Now you ARE making me larf.
9 Mar 2012, 11:05 am
@ufo(ufo)-42:
Too many lines
9 Mar 2012, 11:10 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-46:
See I knew that would make you ‘larf’
You’re the kind of bloke that would want to enter ‘Boer soek ‘n vrou’ but would end up only making comments on their faceb**k page
I also bet you have a secret crush on the new (and prev one for that matter!) presenter and must have been devastated to read in the Rapport that she got married!
What did you expect? Did you h-o-n-e-s-t-l-y think she will wait for you??
9 Mar 2012, 11:11 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-43: Tac has mentioned his wife, never having kids though.
That means its unlikely for him to be 39, 40 years of age. Furthermore he has admitted to his wife dragging him off to various social functions over weekends, leaving him unable to watch all of the rugby games on offer, forcing him to often settle for only the Bulls game as a trade off.
Thus fairly newly married, again unlikely to be 40 or so.
9 Mar 2012, 11:13 am
DD…
Hehehe
coward…
you just made a righttit of yourself contradicting yourself on several occassions in this thread…
9 Mar 2012, 11:17 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-43: Bullshit. You couldn’t find your own tottie with a detailed map, a Garmin and a pair of binoculars.
9 Mar 2012, 11:19 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-46:
Sheriff is the cullart version of Horatio.
(met groen eyes)
And he always gets his man.
Wela kapela.
9 Mar 2012, 11:19 am
Wow man Mallet was in charge of the Baa Baas when they bea the ABs at the end of 2010, also Habana scored a hatrick in that game.
Mallet is a supreme coach with lost of experience. He is also a disciplinarian swhich will be good for England!!!
9 Mar 2012, 11:21 am
From News24:
Sydney – Jake White should move on if he’s not committed to the Brumbies and his interest in England’s top job could destabilise the club, former player Jeremy Paul says.
On the eve of the Brumbies’ Round 3 match against the Cheetahs and just one game into a four-year contract, White on Thursday signalled his ambition to become England’s next coach. But it’s understood the Brumbies players and coaching staff have been left in limbo with White yet to address his team about his uncertain future.
White did not return calls from The Canberra Times on Thursday and it’s unlikely he will discuss his position until after Saturday’s match.
Paul, a former Brumbies and Wallabies hooker, passionately jumped to the defence of the squad and said the ”debacle could be potentially destructive for the Brumbies”.
”It’s ridiculous, it’s beyond destabilising … to hear in the third round your coach is interested in going somewhere else, what were the Brumbies – a stop-gap?” Paul said.
”It throws everything out … you can’t go and field an offer after six months on the job.
”It’s not even about him leaving, it’s about him wanting to take an offer. If he jumps on a plane to go over there, he should stay over there.
”He’s got three-and-a-half years left on his contract and all of a sudden we’re in the position where we could have another caretaker coach … if you want to completely wreck a place, this could do it.”
The Brumbies’ preparation for just their second Super Rugby match under White was thrown into chaos on Thursday when the club was forced to react to ongoing speculation about White because of a story broken by The Canberra Times. Instead of focusing on securing a second consecutive victory, all the attention is on White.
He was absent from his scheduled press conference on Thursday to announce his team to play the Cheetahs, leaving captain Ben Mowen to front the media.
”Jake can make the decisions for himself but, as far as I know, he’s here for four years,” Mowen said. ”That’s where we’re at – Jake’s here and we’ll see what eventuates.”
Prop Ben Alexander said White had addressed the players when he was previously linked to the South African coaching role expected the coach would speak to them on Friday.
In his six months in Canberra, White has overhauled the playing roster and facilities at the club’s Griffith headquarters to try to turn around the worst season in the Brumbies’ history.
Former captain Stephen Hoiles – who left the Brumbies last November due to a chronic Achilles problem – said White’s possible departure was a devastating blow for the club. Hoiles was skipper when Andy Friend was axed in March last year.
Hoiles said White had demonstrated double standards by forcing Brumbies players to play club rugby in Canberra but wavering in his own commitment to the capital. ”You can’t tell players they have to stay in Canberra and play club rugby in Canberra and then have this happen, it’s a double standard,” Hoiles said.
”I feel sorry for the fans and for the players … they don’t need to go through something like this again.
”The Brumbies have the most inexperienced squad in a long time and I’d be surprised if this wasn’t a distraction for them.”
Paul feared White’s possible departure would harm the Brumbies’ ability to recruit and retain players.
”When players choose between the five [Australian] teams they want to go somewhere they can be coached,” Paul said.
”Jake lures players and he was here for four years to attract players, now who knows if that will happen.”
9 Mar 2012, 11:21 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-51:
Have you ever watched a prog on TV with the main character Dr House?
If not do a search on Google Images
9 Mar 2012, 11:24 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-52:
You write so gray
9 Mar 2012, 11:25 am
katman – On rugby365 there it says thath White has turned down the England offer, which i believe is the correct choice. Who knows maybe he can come back to SA and coach the Boks after Meyer!!!
All this PDV circus could have been avoided if SARU had kept White on until 2009, as they were meant too, whilst PDV/AC were being groomed to take over!!
9 Mar 2012, 11:26 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-44:
thats a bit of a strong inference to draw there, transie.
from he gave him one opportunity one time end up at he mentored him (what in life or coaching or the politics of coaching in sa?)
9 Mar 2012, 11:27 am
end up at = to end up at
9 Mar 2012, 11:28 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-55: why?
9 Mar 2012, 11:30 am
Why not PDV, he is available and had some relative success, British lions + Tri-Nations. Oh wait, there is no John, Victor or Du Preez to do the coaching for him.
9 Mar 2012, 11:31 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-60:
Std question I ask people from time to time
Most say ‘yes’
9 Mar 2012, 11:38 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-54:
good on them, my feelings exactly.
the lesson here is that jake white is a dirty farken snake who does not deserve any loyalty from people under or above him, full stop.
i hope he’s just being offered an interview in order to fulfill an rfu requirement that they interview a certain number of candidates before deciding but are in fact going to go with mallet or someone else anyway.
and if that happens that the brumbies players turn on him and his season goesto shirt.
this whole thing just make me respect gert smal a whole lot more.
9 Mar 2012, 11:42 am
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-62: Stupid question. You make no sense and you think (hope) that this will be perceived as being mysterious and deep. It isn’t.
9 Mar 2012, 11:46 am
I must admit that I’m disappointed that Jake is again hinting that he wants to coach England, he did the same trick when his head was on the block while he was coaching the boks, threatening to take up a job with England. The bottom line is that you honour your contract and you see things through. Don’t just flit between jobs when it suites you. He has a massive challenge ahead of him to prove that he can coach a provincial team and help them rebuild it. He has a massive task ahead of him, but if he can be successful at the Brumbies then no one can question his ability as an coach and developing players.
9 Mar 2012, 11:53 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-64:
I understand how you feel.
You know me better than that. So let’s say I wanted to ask any random question to ‘be perceived as …’
But why that one, I think therein lies the ‘mystery’ that you referred to
9 Mar 2012, 11:55 am
Waar is daai man van Boer soek ‘n vrou faam?
9 Mar 2012, 11:59 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-54: “South Africa’s former World Cup-winning coach Jake White has turned down a lucrative offer from England and will remain loyal to the Brumbies for the foreseeable future.
At the same time another former Springbok mentor, Nick Mallett, has emerged as the leading candidate – with dispatches from England suggesting that he had a ‘secret’ meeting with the Rugby Football Union to discuss an offer to become the national team’s head coach.
White, who guided South Africa to the Webb Ellis trophy in 2007, revealed on the social network, Twitter, that he will remain with the Brumbies.
“Always hard turning down a chance to win a world cup, but rugby is about making the right decisions and that’s to stay with@BrumbiesRugby,” White said.
“Want to tweet thanks for all the interest and support. The players are happy and we are now focused on the Cheetahs. Cheers@BrumbiesRugby,” he added.”
9 Mar 2012, 12:05 pm
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Jake-snubs-England-job-20120309
Jake rules out England job
Canberra – Rugby World Cup-winning coach Jake White says he won’t be applying to fill the England head coaching vacancy and plans to remain with Super Rugby’s Brumbies.
White, who led South Africa to the 2007 Rugby World Cup title, said he was disappointed by criticism in the media that he was prepared to leave Canberra in the first year of a four-year contract.
“It’s something I’d look at – it doesn’t mean now, it doesn’t mean leaving my job,” White said.
Asked directly if he was still interested in taking the job being filled on an interim basis by Stuart Lancaster, the South African responded: “No, no, no, no.”
“I’m here for four years with the Brumbies. I’ve signed on the bottom line and you’ve got to judge people by their actions. Nothing’s changed, I’m still committed to the Brumbies.”
Former South Africa and Italy coach Nick Mallett and former Ireland and US coach Eddie O’Sullivan are considered to be the favorites for the England job, along with Lancaster.
The English Rugby Football Union’s wish for someone with topflight experience could count against Lancaster, who has been in charge for the first three Six Nations Tests. England has a 2-1 record.
Martin Johnson, who was captain when England won the World Cup in 2003, quit as coach in November, six weeks before his contract was due to expire.
It followed England’s disappointing World Cup in New Zealand – along with some off-field indiscretions -where the team was eliminated by France in the quarterfinals, its worst performance in the tournament since 1999. my job.”
9 Mar 2012, 12:11 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-66: Just gone 12 o’clock and I’m officially bored with you. So that’s it for the day. Good bye.
9 Mar 2012, 12:39 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-70:
I agree. Feeling is mutual; good-bye for 5 years and beyond
9 Mar 2012, 12:43 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-69:
I must say I would be very interested to hear ‘skoppie’ views on this matter?
Is this merely (we have to say another) publicity stunt by White?
9 Mar 2012, 12:58 pm
@Sheriff(Sheriff)-72:
its hard to say but i think he’s being sincere in his statement. perhaps he’s had the change of heart due to some or other approaches by others in regard his behaviour, either way he’s come round.
or perhaps he’s figured out his is just an interview candidate quota position the rfu had to fill…who knows.
9 Mar 2012, 13:18 pm
@welcome to my life, hugh…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-69: Hmm I think a few people who started prematurely going off about what a snake JW was owe the man an apology….
9 Mar 2012, 13:43 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-74:
yes, you are right.
as it stands i retract my critcisms of him and am provisionally apologising for calling him a snake on this issue.
10 Mar 2012, 00:03 am
Whites a snake through and though.. anyone who still can’t see what an outright snake he is.. not to mention he ain’t even a decent rugby coach.. still dunno wtf a snake is till it bites your arse black and blue…
10 Mar 2012, 00:08 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-76:
He buggered up Chilliboy by playing him when he was too young and HM begged him not to
10 Mar 2012, 00:17 am
@victoriabok(victoriabok)-77: I don’t like Jake.. I reckon he’s a snake.. in fact I’m pretty damn certain he is.. Jeremy Paul can smell him a mile off and now he turned around and pretended he wasn’t serious about chasing the England job because its clear Mallet got the front line hole shot for the job..
If it weren’t the case that RFU wanted Mallet the snake would chuck up Brumbies faster than you can say tie me kangaroo down…
10 Mar 2012, 00:23 am
@victoriabok(victoriabok)-77: and he’s a kak coach that rode on the strengths of the peaking Sharks and Bulls under Meyer Louden Muir and Campese when SA rugby went through a redirection under Aussie influence.. and in spite of the depth of talent available still managed to lose 49-0 – unheard of by any Bok coach before unless his name was Rudolph Streauli… even the snake needed E. Jones to direct him from out his hopeless lack of any dimension otherwise I guarantee he would have been done by Fiji or even perhaps Tonga in that lucky packet WC where nobody played anybody of any substance.
10 Mar 2012, 00:31 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-79:
Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he can do with the Brumbies
He had the same credibility problem Snor had, never having won a CC or Super trophy
We’ll now he has to nut up or shut up
10 Mar 2012, 00:46 am
@victoriabok(victoriabok)-80: sounds to me he’s already spoiled the relationship.. they already found out what kind two face this self centered unholy snake actually is…
10 Mar 2012, 00:46 am
ek’s nou uit.. nagmerrie tyd kom by
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