Bash resumes pivotal role
13 Mar 2012
Flyhalf Peter Grant will start his first match of the season when the Stormers host the Blues at Newlands this Friday.
Gary van Aswegen started at No 10 in the Stormers’ first two matches against the Hurricanes and Sharks. While the Cape side won both matches, Van Aswegen struggled to produce a dominant showing and the backline as a collective failed to fire on attack.
While the Stormers still hope that the 22-year-old Van Aswegen will develop into a good flyhalf option, it’s clear Grant is now their main man.
‘Peter is a Springbok and has a lot of experience,’ coach Allister Coetzee said of Grant’s selection. ‘It’s a very good Blues side that we’re up against, and so there’s going to be a lot of pressure in that [flyhalf] channel. Peter has shown it time and again that he can cope with that kind of pressure.’
Grant returned from Japan five days before that Sharks match and was rushed straight into the match 22. He came off the bench in the second half to not only settle the backline but also nail a touchline penalty to win the game.
Despite Grant’s heroics, he may not be utilised as the Stormers’ primary goal-kicker. Fullback Joe Pietersen missed four attempts at goal in that Sharks match, but could still be entrusted with responsibilities for the coming matches.
‘To be honest, I don’t have a definitive answer to that question,’ Coetzee told keo.co.za. ‘It is something that will be decided at the captain’s run on Thursday.’
Coetzee confirmed that lock Rynhardt Elstadt and prop Deon Carstens, who have both been sidelined with injury, will return to action in the Vodacom Cup this weekend. Depending on how they fare, they could be available for the Stormers’ next clash against the Lions.
Meanwhile, team captain Schalk Burger has had the plaster removed from his injured knee and will begin his rehabilitation next week. It was initially said that Burger would be back for the second tour match against the Crusaders, and on Tuesday Coetzee confirmed that things are on track regarding Burger’s return to the playing field.
Stormers – 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Nick Koster, 7 Duane Vermeulen, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Subs: 16 Skara Ntubeni, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 De Kock Steenkamp, 19 Nizaam Carr, 20 Louis Schrueder, 21 Gary van Aswegen, 22 Gerhard van den Heever.
By Jon Cardinelli
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14 Mar 2012, 00:31 am
anyway as far as I’m concerned most of it is dead now.. Zappa was quite correct.. video killed the radio star.. and music as it forged and evolved actually tapered off and died about 3 – 4 decades ago..
Clash, Cure, Nirvana, Pixies, Dixies, Sting, Sling, Dingading ding, Guns n Roses, U2, Man in the Zoo.. they all been running on the same energy that came out of West Africa.. but they pretty much killed it stone dead…
Tacitus is not all that far wrong.. there is so much you can do by rearranging notes and beats and tones and temperaments .. but soon you might exhaust the real creative energy .. because I ain’t seen or heard much of wholesome value or anything inspiring and new since they all fell off the wagon sometime after the mushroom cloud evaporated over Candy man’s square…
its all image driven nowadays.. hardly any really appealing sounds .. its all about sexy songstresses strutting their images or else its this driving insane house music beat or that rap around the racking brain that is way out of kilter with anything inspirational or real.
14 Mar 2012, 00:34 am
sting is kak, nirvana so-so, dingaging ding never heard of, GNR so-so, U” so-so, Man in the Zoo never heard of.
i give u a playlist u put dylan in the bin and wtf is wrong with a sexy songstresses, u cant hold it against them if they got great set of lungs…
14 Mar 2012, 00:43 am
its entertainment, a show, a spectacle, a feast for the senses but really its just about what you like personally and subjectively. the mainstream like the superficial images for obvious reasons, but ppl got nice interests cos they like it, like a succulent piece of lamb…
14 Mar 2012, 00:44 am
nice=niche
too much kakpraat, better go do some stuff, David will speak later.
14 Mar 2012, 01:26 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-201:
Music has evolved so much further than your hero’s in every respect… difference between your generation and ours… is we were not left behind as insular/record-stuck-in-one-zone ignoramus’… we can appreciate all your hero’s and everything that has evolved from their era’s into the now…
We’re not limited one bit…
14 Mar 2012, 01:41 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-205:
Music has evolved but not as much as the software that makes those songs now.
I am not far from the truth when i say all you need now is to run a drum machine and a
couple of looped sounds, lyrics and speak those words and there we have it a song, if you cant mkae the notes you want, the evolved software will fix that for you.
Dont get me wrong, i like a few new singers as bands these days in pop do not exist.
But music now is as much visual as it is the sound.
You can not compare any singers/bands these days to any of the old greats.
Some people prefer the old stuff and good on them cos it was an era where music was all about music.
Now i am not so sure
14 Mar 2012, 01:49 am
Coetzee has to be one idiot of a coach – how on earth can you select the bloody ordinary de Kock Steenkamp ahead of the very impressive Etzebeth – what an idiot – thank the pope he never got the Bok job
14 Mar 2012, 02:34 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-206:
And why would you compare anyone from any era… I’m most certainly not limited to any of the genres from Hendrix live to 200k punters in 69′ to 200 punters at a Stay Up Forever Brixton squat party in 99′…
@Saffex(Saffex)-207:
You’ll be the first to moan when Bekker and co are played into the ground again each and every game until injury… Super Rugby season is like no other and rotation is key…
14 Mar 2012, 03:31 am
de kock steenkamp………..what a useless journeyman, eish!
14 Mar 2012, 04:25 am
Back up players are usually either journeymen or youngsters on the way up. It is difficult to keep starting quality players if they don’t get game time. De Jong would probably not have re-signed if he was still stuck in traffic behind JdV and JF. Sadie and JJ knew they would get to play more sooner at the Bulls. It is the journeymen who are the key to depth in a squad.
14 Mar 2012, 06:15 am
@Saffex(Saffex)-207:
etzebeth has been selected to start… according to the stormers website and every other website…
appears jon cardinelli has got it wrong… he also told us this game was on saturday but has since corrected that mistake…
14 Mar 2012, 08:01 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-205: He doesn’t believe in evolution so you might as well try convince a mushroom
It’s like saying the only decent rugby players who ever lived were guys like Brian Lochore, Avril Malan, Danie Craven, Frik Du Preez, Colin Meads etc, and there has never been any evolution since then and they are the best and everyone since then are just pretenders
14 Mar 2012, 08:02 am
@Saffex(Saffex)-207: Early days, and it’s his first season…the guy needs to be managed, especially if he has niggling injuries!
14 Mar 2012, 08:38 am
@Saffex(Saffex)-207: Etsebeth is starting. Steenkamp on the bench.
See JC?? What you’ve started with your inaccuracies? Practically a riot here for the past few days by Stormers fans……
14 Mar 2012, 08:47 am
News 24 have the proper team…..
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Super15/Stormers-wary-of-bye-slumber-20120313
Come on Keo!
14 Mar 2012, 08:48 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-214:
yeah… and ac being unjustly vilified…
14 Mar 2012, 08:51 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-201: You’ve got to ask yourself what kind of person feels the need to “win” the True Music Connoisseur Award. Like it’s some kind of achievement to be the ultimate recogniser of what’s good, what’s almost good, what’s so-so and what’s rubbish. It’s clearly not. Music is, like writing or art or photography, an emotional thing. It’s meant to move you. You can have all the technical ability in the world, but if you don’t put a whole lot of your honest self into it, you may as well be an anonymous session artist or an excellent cover band.
Having said that… what’s happened to you, Skop, is what happens to most people. You suffer from the “grass is greener in my formative years” syndrome. The music that spoke to you and moved you as a young man made such an impression that you can’t see this in anything else. This has far more to do with our “gullibility” (and I mean this in a good way) at that age than it has to do with the declining quality in music.
Sadly I see this happening to myself too. I try to consciously remind myself not to become like you. To remain open to new things, to ask friends about new bands, to see what some of the more credible youngsters at work are listening to. And there is amazing stuff out there if you can see past the mountains of generic, category-safe tosh that’s pushed out by the container load these days. Just have to know where to look and who to ask.
But I think for you this may be too late already. Pity.
14 Mar 2012, 09:02 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-217:
well put…
thing is they doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive… either/or… black or white… there’s a whole rainbow in between…
there is so much more…
14 Mar 2012, 09:05 am
Skopknofler’s only concession to the 21st Century is a pair of fake Crocs.
Otherwise he is a walking time capsule.
14 Mar 2012, 09:07 am
which brings to mind one of the newer singer/songwriters i really do like… brett dennen…
has a song called
there is so much more…
when I heard the news,
my heart fell on the floor.
i was on a plane on my way to baltimore.
in these troubled times it’s hard enough as it is.
my soul has a known a better life than this.
i wonder how so many can be in so much pain,
while others don’t seem to feel a thing.
then I curse my whiteness
and I get so damn depressed.
in a world of suffering,
why should I be so blessed?
i heard about a women who lives in colorado.
she built a monoment of sorts behind her garage door,
where everyday she prays for all whom are born
and all whose souls have passed on.
sometimes my trouble gets so thick,
i can’t see how I’m gonna get through it.
but, then I’d rather be stuck up in a tree
then be tied to it.
there is so much more.
I don’t feel comfortable with the way my clothes fit.
I cant get used to my bodys limits.
I got some fancy shoes to try and kick away these blues.
they cost a lot of money but they arent worth a thing.
I wanna free my feet from the broken glass and concrete.
I need to get out of this city.
lay apon the ground stare a hole in the sky,
wondering where I go when I die.
when I die.
14 Mar 2012, 09:10 am
Didn’t Dr and the Medics sing that one?
14 Mar 2012, 09:14 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-221:
you thinking of their old norman greenbaum cover…?
14 Mar 2012, 09:17 am
@>^..^< katman(katman)-217: @ufo(ufo)-218: @the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-219: Check out Skop’s post 200.
Consider your self warned, my phoephiefied little pseudo arse punkified pals!
14 Mar 2012, 09:19 am
Moi?
What did GuntherGoebbelstwatwiffle do?
14 Mar 2012, 09:25 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-223:
hahaha…
thing is… as said above… liking springsteen or appreciating any other music doesn’t mean you don’t like or appreciate the guys skop names…
but if he wants to make those assumptions… well…
14 Mar 2012, 09:26 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-224: The charge sheet is a complex one…..
Mostly though you
“dunno music from make believe.. or tie dyed tee shirts from rhythmic uncomplicated sounds.. ”
And you failed to
“shut (your) pseudo little clap trap minds up and open up (your) dumb fck ears before clamoring to find a handle with which to spout their clap trap garbage intelligentsia laden pseudo scum pretensions about stuff they know absolutely fckall about,..”
Get it?
Got it?
Good.
14 Mar 2012, 09:30 am
You mean this?
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-193: tell your phoephiefied little pseudo arse punkified pals who dunno music from make believe.. or tie dyed tee shirts from rhythmic uncomplicated sounds.. or psychedelic escapades from phony pseudo status symbol ‘collections’ to shut their pseudo little clap trap minds up and open up their dumb fck ears before clamoring to find a handle with which to spout their clap trap garbage intelligentsia laden pseudo scum pretensions about stuff they know absolutely fckall about,..
Such an angry little man.
You would have though 30 years of tofu fritters and lentil smoothies would have mellowed the old goat.
14 Mar 2012, 09:35 am
Vegetarians always have their heads in bags of angry squirrels.
14 Mar 2012, 09:36 am
@ufo(ufo)-225: Ja apparently thinking that The Boss is, well, the “Boss” isn’t allowed here.
At least I know now lol.
14 Mar 2012, 09:38 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-229:
sheesh…
someone should send out a press release…
14 Mar 2012, 09:38 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-228:
14 Mar 2012, 09:39 am
He needs to get laid Dawn.
Sadly for him ***** is off the menu for vegetarians.
14 Mar 2012, 09:40 am
Meow.
14 Mar 2012, 10:09 am
someone let the cat out the bag…?
hehehe
14 Mar 2012, 21:29 pm
Seeing as this thread is long gone off the front page news already and all the little squirrels have gathered their nuts to go hibernate in their self satisfied deaf dumb and blind tree huts .. so they may come around to seeing this response.. else they won’t and they be the unwiser and poorer for it..
Lets just get this whole hoopla show down straight into perspective here about wtf the ACTUAL issue is that got boiled down and around for couple whole days..
You have to go back to a thread even older than this one called ‘SA teams must make mental shift’.. same way some self righteous ignoramus self styled wet behind the ears music aficionado’s need to make some quantum mental shift about their so called music accredited connoisseur credentials, to see what the goddamn fuss regarding contentious issues about who’s music appreciation surpasses who’s…
Here is the little tête-à-tête around what ACTUALLY went down
I quite magnanimously posted two links to two all time greatest live performances in a setting not filled with state of the art modern techno wizardry and flashing lights with all manner of sound enhancing gizmos masking the artists pure unadulterated artistry..
I posted a link to two all time greatest performances by two sets of artists who drew on the deepest levels of true musical unbridled creativity….
and just a few minutes later some little snarky obnoxious piffle arse know it all comes popping his little over inflated know nothing pseudo intellect into the mix to try show how much he KNOWS and how much he’s aware of all the tie dyed tee shirts and flower power hippie paraphernalia surrounding the scene when TRUE music was played in true unmasked unabashed unpretentious clear soulful artistry…
UNLIKE all the gizmo enhanced blase brash pretensions that get blown about on stages and studios these days where it ain’t the music that catches the attention but all the fake faux pas fandango IMAGERY…
the little schmuck never HEARD nor witnessed what Santana and his band (or Cocker for that matter) created in absolute fine tuned creative ingenious oneness .. all the little sniveling snooty nosed sneer monger could SEE or HEAR were the tie dyed T shirts and the afro’s…. shows exactly what kind of musical aficionado ingenuity we have oozing out this piffle arsed little non musically enlightened know it all…
Here is WHAT went down..
311.ashampoopaloo:
12 Mar 2012, 22:34 pm Here Tacitus catch a load of these this was the end of the last music generation.. where it was the music was what was happening and nothing to do with video generated image… everything since then has been shrouded by some pseudo ingenuity of intellectualized motherless clap trap This was the culmination of a generation and after that it all went slowly and systematically down the drain..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFjgyL_CuUY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHSgl5Azec&feature=related
314.>^..^< katman:
12 Mar 2012, 22:51 pm How quaint. The old ballie who thinks that his music was the best. That Cocker performance was okay (don’t get me started on the pretentious Woodstock tie-dye crowd), but that Santana sht is just hours of weedly-weedly-wee and big afros.
Anyone who STILL reckons some these Johnny come lately boss men could hold a candle to either of those two outright mastery performances of pure unprecedented music genius moments haven't heard a goddamn thing in ALL of their so called (non) music appreciative connotative consciousnesses.
14 Mar 2012, 22:59 pm
what difference does it really make?
nada, zip, zilch.
what in christs name u got your balls all in a knot for cos someone jokes about joe cocker or santana or whatever, wtf really cares?
cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo
14 Mar 2012, 23:32 pm
nope its about the so called ability to recognize valuable artistry.. in this case music
and all it shows without a shadow of a doubt is you lot of tone deaf image worshiping pseudo arsed blind as bat stone deaf babies dunno wtf comprises any relative music appreciation whatsofucking ever.
for somebody to retort about tie dyed hippyfied audiences when its the actual performance and the SOUND that is the factor of attention and that they cannot catch even a faint whisper of a clue about wtf actual guitar and percussion mastery is, shows they are in no way even vaguely attuned or aware of where true music appreciation begins or ends
14 Mar 2012, 23:55 pm
well if we all so clueless, what difference is it to you, think how goddamn lucky and blessed u are to be the only true Kenner!
So now listen if you such a guizar wizard how come i aint never heard anyone called ashampoopoo headlining the royal philharmonic huh? how you know he cant play that guitar better than you? then what?
15 Mar 2012, 00:01 am
go and LISTEN to that Santana Woodstock clip AGAIN.. and this time OPEN your stone deaf tone deaf imbecilic EARS
LISTEN to that solid base line held down tight for entire 6 minutes of the exhilarated experience
LISTEN to the beat and rhythm of conga drums and the bongo drums being held together throughout
Listen to the organ grinding out the back ground of the melody line.. and LISTEN to Santana’s guitar licks.. pure genius clean idyllic Latin soaring Gibson guitar sounds
And then watch and LISTEN to the 19 year old drummer giving it everything from out of a soaring crescendo of pure energetic mastery.. at 19 years of age..
The entire band tight together through every note and every beat and every bar of togetherness and collective creative adrenalin filled symmetry..
If you so called ignoramus ‘music lovers’ cannot HEAR what music mastery and artistry actually is then go drive your head up some mediocre image laden schmucks ego like Bruce Springsteen or his half way stage put on performances…they not even on the same planet let alone anywhere in the same level of creative quality or ability.
and this little pseudo Valiant Swart, Johnny Clegg, Paul Simon disciple reckons he’s in a position to declare that Santana’s sound is akin to .. how he call it … ‘hours of weedly-weedly-wee and big afros’
You unenlightened ignoramus’ haven’t even begun to open up your dumb fck stone deaf ears.. let alone your image driven closed shop dumb fck minds… f’ng Morons united…
15 Mar 2012, 00:34 am
i cant listen to it again, my arsehole will drop out from sheer boredom, hell i dunno about percussive effect and asymptotic harmonics, you got the whole fkn thing backwards, music for pleasure to relax and not think about.
i quite like the bongo drums, reminds me of africa when we were neanderthals on the plains…
what wrong with the boss, he is what he is, he not going to split the atom or even break new ground, but he gets u tapping along, how about billy ray cyrus? now that is talent met a kapital T.
15 Mar 2012, 00:43 am
i got a lady friend who lives near the boss in new jersey, with all the investment bankers, she bumped into him in supermarket, says he’s a down to earth guy – in his 20-bed mansion and all. good luck to the Boss-man, he has worked hard to cultivate the image…a great talent.
15 Mar 2012, 01:33 am
yip that’s about it.. you dumb morons are simply not music lovers.. can’t appreciate a dumb fck thing about what real music from false music is..
Indie pop garbage your bag … we in different universes.. you and these pseudo intellectualized baby brained arse wipes.. from me…
music is MUSIC.. if you cannot HEAR it.. then its simple.. you are DEAF..!!
good for your lady friend up the Boss man’s New Jersey goody two shoes boy next door back side.. Springsteen is a nice middle of the road middle American.. middle of nowhere .. middling mediocre melodious monotony man
If its middle of nowhere meaningless macho music that makes a mark on your mesmerized make believe mystified melancholy then tap your footsies and twiddle your toes to Springsteen.. sorry old bean.. we simply ain’t from the same neck of the galaxy.. you and me.
15 Mar 2012, 01:50 am
yip thats about it, if don’t smaak the boss you are lost.
what about hasslehof? now that is music.
this review on amazon says it all about the album ‘The Very Best of David Hasselhoff’:
“When my good friend Ian bought this for me as a joint Birthday & Christmas present, I assumed he was being miserly and sarcastic. It was only after listening to the velvety smooth acoustic wizardry that emanates from the hoffs pores that I realised what a friend he actually was.
From the tragedy that oozes from such sad tones as ‘Lonely Is The Night’, to the hope of ‘The Best Is Yet To Come’ to the pure unadulterated rock that is ‘J’taime Means I Love You’, this album really is the death of all other music. Sinatra, Presley and Lennon would surely have looked to hasselhoff for musical and spiritual guidance had they been fortunate enough to co-exist.
As for his visual prowess, anyone can make a music video relevant to the song they have sung, but it takes a true master of the understanding of dance, to sing ‘I Love You’ whilst perfectly executing a roundhouse kick, and making it look beautiful.
I experienced the full spectrum of emotion in what was, quite simply, the most beautiful 63 minutes of my life. It made me weep, it made me smile and it made me love.
I divorced my wife and sold everything I had. Sitting alone in my empty bedsit with only the shirt on my back and the Hoff beside me, I was happier than I have ever been before, thanks to one man. One Legend. One Hoff.”
15 Mar 2012, 04:41 am
Fuckadilly has his tie-dyed bandana on too tight.
And the squirrels are nibbling his nuts.
15 Mar 2012, 07:52 am
thing is skop… as i said in the chat about world’s best guitarists a few months back… santana is my favorite guitarist of all time… yes, different to bb king, hendrix and clapton and a host of others named that evening… but i don’t feel i have to sledgehammer the point home or trash other guitarists or fans to make the point…
i’m also a huge bob dylan fan, neil young and most of the guys you mention… although you neglect The Band… who’s importance there isn’t space to go into here as well…
but that doesn’t mean i don’t and can’t appreciate great music by other legends or just simply other musicians…
you think the boss is nothing…? well.. enough people think enough of him to have him induct bob dylan into the rock n roll hall of fame in 1988… listen to his speech http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRu66l3QI_U and tell me he is a man and musician who isn’t fully emerged in the whole rock trip… if you wanna impress people here with the influence of bob dylan… borrow a few lines from the boss’s speech… he certainly gives bob due credit with respectful gravitas and acknowledgement of bob’s status in rock…
but simply supporting or liking one thing does not mean anyone else here doesn’t like or appreciate many more too..
and what’s wrong with buying albums to listen too…? if you’re such a big santana fan… don’t tell me you don’t have a collection of santana music to listen to…? or that you play his music on your own guitar…
you have your principles and opinions skop… and i think many people respect you for that… but that doesn’t mean other peoples principles or opinions are bad, wrong or lesser than yours…
why is it so hard for you to allow other people to hold and express their own opinions…? if you simply acknowledge everyone else’s opinions while expressing your own… you’d find a great deal more people acknowledging yours…
just saying…
imo of course…
which i know counts for diddlyfcknsquat…!!
15 Mar 2012, 08:05 am
as dennis wilson said simply…
“i write songs to make people feel good…”
it’s no more complicated or intellectual than that…
anyone who tries to make it so has indeed missed the whole point of it anyway…
15 Mar 2012, 08:36 am
@ufo(ufo)-246: Indeed. As reluctant as I am to refer to Hugh Grant in the Movie “Music and Lyrics” he speaks of how the simplicity of a song can uplift and then goes on to sing “I’ve got sunshine…on a cloudy day….”
Makes the point really well.
Music is also a performance. I for example, was never a big Crowded House fan until I saw them live, Before i enjoyed their music but they didn’t really “grab” me. It’s like meeting a woman (or a man). You either connect with them or you don’t and it’s different for each person.
After the concert I went out and bought their CD’s and now I really enjoy them.
Best concert I ever went to was Billy Joel. Partly because of where I was sitting and the connection I felt with his performance (apart from the fact that he’s a genius storyteller). Others may not have enjoyed it as much.
That’s the way it goes.
15 Mar 2012, 09:10 am
Skoppie, for someone whose favourite word is “ignoramus”, you are remarkably closed in the mind to anything you didn’t make your mind up about decades back. Does that not make you an Ignoramus of the highest order?
I love music from your generation. I have plenty of Neil Young albums, Patti Smith, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Bob Dylan, old Leonard Cohen stuff, Bowie from the late sixties, all the early Floyd. I just don’t like Santana. I find them boring and self-indulgent. I also think Cocker was overrated. Just about every song that made him big was a cover, and if so many people weren’t so goofed at Woodstock, more people might have been skeptical about the bloke. He’d make a great wedding singer though.
But back to my original point. You’ve shut your mind to everything that happened from about 1970 onwards, and that’s the end of the story. You generalise about “modern” music (as if 30 years back can still be regarded as modern), saying that it’s all just “state of the art modern techno wizardry and flashing lights with all manner of sound enhancing gizmos”, which makes it pretty clear that you haven’t heard much recently. Sure, there is a lot of cheap rubbish out there these days. There’s a lot of TV and fashion and news and literary rubbish too. That’s just the era in which we live. Content has exploded. But there’s still an awful lot of brilliance in music.
Do yourself a favour one day and fork out for a copy of Mojo. Then read the extensive reviews section and, randomly, pick any band or artist that gets a great review. Then go and look them up and listen WITH AN OPEN MIND. I guarantee that you’ll discover something that will surprise you.
But I suspect you won’t. You’ll rather go through life knowing the five things you know and bashing everyone who doesn’t agree.
15 Mar 2012, 09:15 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-247:
absolutely SB…
some people have this thing about being ‘heavy’ or ‘tough’ and poo-pooing anything that isn’t… but i remember reading that pete townsend really liked abba and thought benny and bjorn were two of the greatest songwriters and called one of their songs… (forget which one now) the greatest pop song ever written…
and guys like the stones used to hang with the gibb brothers in london in the late 60s… because of the mutual respect they held for each other…
and i always love to see which rockers perform at each others concerts or at other events… because having the love and respect of fans is one thing… but to me… having the respect of your peers in the industry says one helluva lot more…
yeah…
live music is the only true way to appreciate it… whether in a concert hall listening to an orchestra or opera… or at a stadium feeling yours clothes and body vibrate from the sound…
one of the drags of living in sa is that we don’t get near enough performers here…
was in la in ’83 and was like a kid in a candy store… you could literally go a concert every night if you chose to and could afford to… and we’re not talking small names here… all the big names at the time… for example saw simon and garfunkels concert in the park reunion concert at dodger stadium… saw dan fogelberg in a tiny venue just him a guitar and piano… very impressive… saw jackson browne in a theatre… too many to mention…
but… most fun i had at a concert was neil diamond at the forum… home of the lakers although changed the name now…
people were passing tokes down the rows and although i’ve never done any drugs… must’ve got plenty of second-lung smoke… but the place rocked and neil diamond is (was) one helluva performer… the crowd was great too (and high) with everybody dancing and singing… was really amazing… and no… i’m not ashamed to say so…
BTW… for the record…
I tried snorting coke once…
but the ice cubes got stuck in my nose and I nearly died of brain-freeze…!!
15 Mar 2012, 09:26 am
@ufo(ufo)-249: Speaking of the Gibb brothers, there is a guy who does excellent mash-ups (combining two or more famous songs) and posts them on youtube. He did this amazing mash-up of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” and the Bee Gees’ “Stayin Alive”. You might appreciate his craft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U13xOvDa19U
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