Your coach was an ignoramus. Lets just all admit it.

Yeah at 29 he’s way past it.

Yip morne is a tough one, but he got some stiff competition. Goosen kicks bombs from 60m big and fast – can’t ignore that. Always thought WO was better than ppl made out, louden rated him highly, but sometimes a bit 1D, I think he could try beat his opposite no more often or get hands thru gap.

Flyhalf is a much bigger problem. You cannot discard Steyn because he has been a good servant and is dependable. Maybe 1.5 more years with him and then Goosen?

he looks a little overweight to me and will certainly need to lose some kilos if he wants to make the run on bok team. he’s listed at 124kg on the toulon website so the bok conditioning coach needs to look at that and see what’s best in terms of weight to power to mobility ratios.

@puff(puff)-94:
fair enough, you are absolutely right. there can be no more sentimental ‘going on 2007 form’ fbc type picking of boks anymore. its just not viable in the long term even though it solves very real problems for heyneke in the short term.

so ja, maybe pick pakslae or bakkies along with bekker and any combo of the new prospects. the coach can just decide if he wants to send the oldies on first to post a winning score and then the laaities to just go bos without any worries about losing or vice versa the laaities first and then the oldies when the game slows down or the score is against us.

Heh.
Look, Bakkies was my favourite player alonide Juan Smith for years.
But I haven’t seen him play an imposing game in a Bok jersey for some time.
Of course, injuries and suspensions had a lot to do with that as it robbed him of consistency and momentum.
I also thought the way he exited the World Cup was gutting.
So the sentimental side of me would dig to see Bakkies in the Bok squad against the Roses.
But my practical side sees youngsters like Van Der Merwe, Mostert, Elstadt and Etzebeth performing well.
There’s also the option of Pakslae who last I saw was in better condition than Bakkies.
Or, when fit, I would be fine with Juan Smith shifting to number 4 – a role he played at junior level.
My point is… play the likes of Bakkies, Du Preez, Rossouw et al for the June tests because they have the experience and there is so little time to get a new-look squad to gel.
But beyond that – unless the vets are chomping at the bit and ravenously hungry and super-conditioned like Brad Thorn – their roles should be finite or redefined to offer the youngsters more opportunities.

i have checked through your post three times. i am certain john phillip botha’s name is not on that list. is this a typo? yes it must be a typo.

I don’t know. Meyer seems to lean more towards picking some overseas based guys, from what he’s hinted at so far.

But I wonder if that is not specifically because so many of his former Bulls stalwarts are there and he has very little time to pick a new squad.

In the long term the views may well be different.

Same thing.

@willievz(willievz)-83:

Meyer hasn’t indicated exactly what his stance is on this issue. But in general, that’s been the rule that’s been applied, with one or two exceptions.

Certainly, that’s what SARU have been aiming at, based on their stance on the issue.

So you don’t think Meyer will give Bakkies a swansong against the Brits then?
Or Daniesaurus?
You don’t think he’ll bank on Steenkamp, Frans Steyn and Jacques Fourie for the games against the Enlgish, considering he hardly has any time to get a new squad to gel?