Desperate Sharks edge Canberra scrap
31 Mar 2012
JON CARDINELLI reports that guts ultimately proved more valuable than accuracy in an important 29-26 win for Sharks over the Brumbies.
Regardless of a reflection that will reveal both teams were guilty of stupid mistakes, the upshot is that the Sharks have recorded a bonus-point victory in a city where they haven’t won since 1998. There is plenty to criticise and plenty to laud, but there’s no getting round this fact.
The result ensures the Sharks remain in the Super Rugby race after a string of inconsistent showings. They fell short against the Waratahs last week and desperately needed this win to keep them in the hunt. They were never in control in Canberra and the problems in their game still persist, but for the moment they will savour a performance that has brought them five log points and a crucial win Down Under.
Moving forward, though, they will need to address a few shortcomings that continue to hamper their ability to dominate a match.
Indeed it was their ability to stifle the Brumbies at the breakdown and force some telling turnovers that won them the game. Jake White will be livid with his players for coughing up possession whenever the hosts ventured into the Sharks’ 22. In these pressure situations, the Sharks prevailed, showing incredible tenacity as well as an accuracy that was absent from many other areas of their game.
It may seem harsh to criticise an attack that scored four tries against what is a good Brumbies defence, but many of these tries were created from turnover ball.
There were moments of clear desperation that garnered points, such as when Odwa Ndungane found himself defending against three Brumbies players and still managed to snaffle an intercept that led to a try. In the second half, there was a brilliant breakdown turnover on the Sharks tryline that was quickly shifted wide, and Lwazi Mvovo produced a thrilling finish to secure the bonus-point try.
The accurate boot of Freddie Michalak also ensured that the Sharks turned three of their four tries into seven-pointers. And yet, that high-try count is misleading, as the Sharks battled to control possession for much of the game.
Not for the first time in 2012, their failure to set a good platform before unleashing the backs led to some frantic play. And six rounds into the competition, there still seems to be a lack of synergy that is hampering their attacking execution.
Sharks fans will point to the scoreboard and denounce these claims, but it must be noted just how many opportunities the Brumbies botched on Saturday. Their first try was scored through fullback Jesse Mogg, who initially profited from a forward pass and then showed a superb piece of individual skill to finish. Between that point and just seconds before full time, the Brumbies enjoyed many more opportunities but were undone by turnovers.
When they had a chance to counter-attack, they were also guilty of silly mistakes and poor decisions. The Sharks kicked terribly out of hand, but unfortunately for the hosts, the Brumbies just could not capitalise. It is surely something White will want to address with this young and inexperienced side.
For the Sharks, it’s time to start putting some complete performances together. Like the win against the Reds two weeks previously, this result in Canberra highlighted the guts and tenacity that runs through the side, but they need to be honest about where they are falling short, they need to start executing efficiently if they are to build on a solid start to their Australasian tour.
They lost the match against the Waratahs in the final minutes, and so nearly relinquished a 10-point lead in the dying stages of the clash against the Brumbies. It took a Brumbies knock-on in the final play for the Sharks to escape with the spoils.
The scoreboard may tell a different story, but the Sharks still have a long way to go if they are going to topple the better teams.
210 Comments
31 Mar 2012, 09:52 am
Come on Sharks
31 Mar 2012, 10:01 am
Go Jake & The Boys!!!!!!!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 10:08 am
Go Sharks… The Cheetahs have shown how to do it…!
31 Mar 2012, 10:22 am
Sharks have to win.I see there is no argument around if Kanko is better than that kid that plays for Menlo Park two’s.Seems the kid is winning hands down as at least he is starting the games for his team
31 Mar 2012, 10:26 am
S H A R K K K S S S S S S S S !!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 10:28 am
Sharks have an uphill battle. They will struggle to win if they play like they did last week!
31 Mar 2012, 10:36 am
This is a must win game for the Sharks.
31 Mar 2012, 10:42 am
Go the Sharks!
31 Mar 2012, 10:48 am
i support jake,the saffa.go brumbies!
31 Mar 2012, 10:57 am
should have been a yellow card also.good work brumbies.
31 Mar 2012, 11:01 am
Yebo babYyyyyyYyyyyyyy SHARKssssssss
31 Mar 2012, 11:03 am
Capecrusty, supporting a white SA male?! Have you had your tablets today?
31 Mar 2012, 11:04 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-11:
Slow down Hugs, still long way to go…pace yourself!
31 Mar 2012, 11:06 am
@Slarty
31 Mar 2012, 11:06 am
come on you f(ucking guppys!!!
If ya lose this one ya can forget about a home semi! Now moer hom!
31 Mar 2012, 11:07 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-12: it’s not about race,buddy.
31 Mar 2012, 11:09 am
Feckfeckfeckfeckfeck
31 Mar 2012, 11:09 am
oh yes!typical jake white rugby!!!habana must be missing the great man.
31 Mar 2012, 11:09 am
Oohh gaats! Great try though.
31 Mar 2012, 11:09 am
Hw forward was that pass ffs
31 Mar 2012, 11:09 am
The Bumbies bite back,
8)
31 Mar 2012, 11:10 am
great try by die brumbies fullback.
31 Mar 2012, 11:11 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-17:
Hehehe sorry Hugs but that made me smile!
PS Sharks look like they on holidays, not 100 commited or into it or something…
31 Mar 2012, 11:11 am
@ Capecrusader : Are you too going to switch allegiance -like so many of my arrogant Crusader supporting mates – who now suddenly support all NZ teams seeing that their team is horse manure this season?
31 Mar 2012, 11:13 am
Where the f is the Sharks halfback
31 Mar 2012, 11:14 am
whitehead not very impressive.i can see why wp carted him off to the sharks.ndungane just as slow as his brother.keegan daniel leads the super stats for the most missed tackles and you can see why.
31 Mar 2012, 11:14 am
Mild applause sharks go Gani.
31 Mar 2012, 11:19 am
You jinxing us Slarty !!
31 Mar 2012, 11:19 am
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-24: nothing wrong with the crusaders.in any case the national team is more important than any franchise ….except for you losers down there in the republic.
31 Mar 2012, 11:20 am
Mallet to coach the sharks. Plum has shown all his cards season after season and he has always been found wanting. He is a 80% coach, who consistently lacks the other 20% needed to get the team firing week after week.
The sharks play way below their potential. Meh …I’m getting rather apathetic about the whole thing.
31 Mar 2012, 11:21 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-27:
OK I will uncross my legs for the second half…
31 Mar 2012, 11:22 am
@Cambridge(Cambridge)-30: Unfortunately the 20% Plum is missing is basic common sense.
His choice of Captain is a bad idea, the choices Keegan makes are poor, where is McCleod today, 5 seconds too slow and Whitehead is appalling.
31 Mar 2012, 11:24 am
Cape Crusader…… You one sad lonely thing if you feel the need to come here and slag off anything South African. I suppose any attention is better than nothing in your case.
31 Mar 2012, 11:24 am
Morning gents and Hugz.
Awesome win this morning Slarti, made my weekend regardless of what happens at Newlands.
31 Mar 2012, 11:25 am
Sharks hv been terrible, how many passes have gone behind the reciever. Whitehead is a major liability, JPP is lazy and walks on the field, by coming out of the defensive line JPP gifted the space to the Brumbies to score their try.
Ndungane – fancy a carthorse anyone?
How slow is McCloud as getting to the rucks and clearing the ball….?
Time for Plum to get the boot – Mallet to coach the Sharks
31 Mar 2012, 11:27 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-35: Are you going to pay Mallet?
31 Mar 2012, 11:27 am
Faarking make sharp Sharks!!! Common big second half!! ffs!!!
31 Mar 2012, 11:27 am
@Slarty lolololol… Carefull not to tight, you don’t want to damage anything.
31 Mar 2012, 11:28 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-35:
Perhaps some fatigue is setting in?
31 Mar 2012, 11:28 am
Sharks also need locks and Mvovo is a bang broek on defense – say what u want about Habana but he puts his body on the line (unlike MVovo)
31 Mar 2012, 11:29 am
Or Frustration. Lack of hunger & killer instinct!
ffs!
31 Mar 2012, 11:29 am
Yeah, i’m a committed fan and all that, but watching the sharks does make me wonder why i bother with them. The big issue is there is nothing to look forward to. Does anyone think it will be any different/better six months from now?
Its time to clean house at the top. The sharks play like a bunch of mates who occasionally get together to throw ball around for ***** and giggles. Clearly this rugby business is getting in the way of their braaing.
31 Mar 2012, 11:30 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-33:
Just leave the poor sod alone, he will leave soon.
@JockBok(JockBok)-34:
Thanks Jock, it was great and loved it.
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-35:
Something a miss, I blame the coach.
31 Mar 2012, 11:30 am
Huzzit Jock.
31 Mar 2012, 11:31 am
@Guns(Guns)-39: Hey boet, hope you guys have the ammo to close this one out, I have you to take this on Superbru,
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-38: Morning Hugsy, how’s the minkeys?
31 Mar 2012, 11:32 am
just love the way jake has transformed this brumbies team.@brains_trust(brains_trust)-35: mallet will never go there buddy.only desperate people live in kzn
31 Mar 2012, 11:32 am
I am not going to pay Mallet – the Sharks can cut Freddie from his contract and free up the cash, btw I support the Stormers just hate seeing the Sharks play the k@k !!!
31 Mar 2012, 11:35 am
Lololololol what a try
31 Mar 2012, 11:35 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-43:
Great stuff, only saw the second half but man, so chuffed for the eTahs
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-44:
Howdy Hugs. another hour and a bit of inconvenience (work) then I can join in the rugby chat. Go Sharkies meantime.
Oh, and ……..
STORMERSSSSS
31 Mar 2012, 11:39 am
Sharks looking good – alberts is the obvious choice for tge Boks – he’s absolutely massive and basically is the sharks, he and Bismarck.
31 Mar 2012, 11:40 am
Huzzit Stormersboy, they drenched and miserable lol, and very intrigued bout the new structures going up, chit is going to hit the fan when the all the damaged noonoo’s arrive, am dreading it.
You must be a bit apprehensive for this evening, am only going to be able to watch from second half if I am lucky, the Masai conservationist farewell drinks at friends gamefarm a bit later.
31 Mar 2012, 11:43 am
@cab(cab)-50: alberts is so way overrated….but let him be the obvious choice for the boks.i am not going to spoil your fun.
31 Mar 2012, 11:44 am
stop namedropping tree,they are animals they are supposed to get wetin the rain.in their world it is caled taking a bath.
31 Mar 2012, 11:44 am
Sharks… ffs
31 Mar 2012, 11:45 am
Alots been said about Coetzee and he’s good but not in alberts league – what a massive game tonight – I relish the prospect of some of alberts, Bismarck and beast being combined with the stormers pack for the boks.
31 Mar 2012, 11:47 am
Sharks are really playing below par. It starts with a glory boy captain and goes downhill from there.
31 Mar 2012, 11:47 am
come on jake,work your magic!
31 Mar 2012, 11:48 am
JP playing damn well too – the Boks are all looking good. No nfungane for boks tho asb heineken.
31 Mar 2012, 11:49 am
Hahaha Brumbies (Oz) mauling! Did not take Jake long…
31 Mar 2012, 11:51 am
This ref spots the weirdest knock-ons that only he can see.
31 Mar 2012, 11:51 am
come on mr.ref,time to show some yellow cards !!sharks have been cynical at the breakdowns.
31 Mar 2012, 11:51 am
52 capecrusader
u actually been watching any of this game here today? The amount if work that 120kg monster gets thru us frightening – not only is he by far the strongest ballcarrier in sa, if not the S15, also look at tge tackles he gets thru AND he can offload too
31 Mar 2012, 11:52 am
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-51: Enjoy.
And watch yourself. You know how those conservationists get
31 Mar 2012, 11:54 am
What a try!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 11:55 am
Yessus mvovo put his nose down there – cracking stuff
31 Mar 2012, 11:56 am
@cab(cab)-65:
Ja he got shorter the faster he ran…
31 Mar 2012, 11:57 am
DROPPED
31 Mar 2012, 11:59 am
C’mon Boys, I know u can do it!!! Unfortunately working so I cannot see it but am enjoying all these chirps!!!
GO BRUMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 11:59 am
Close! Brumbies doing all the attacking and Sharks the scoring.
31 Mar 2012, 12:02 pm
@BrumbiesBoy(BrumbiesBoy)-68:
Brumbies looking ok and on attack for a while now but they need to score or else…
31 Mar 2012, 12:03 pm
that’s no forward pass!!
31 Mar 2012, 12:05 pm
Another mysterious knock-on…
The #19 of the Brumbies is a beast, he crosses the advantage line every single time…and as I type he concedes a penalty.
31 Mar 2012, 12:06 pm
@Fern… Name dropping would be if I said his name and what a big shot nailer of poachers he is… This wasn’t rain rain, but torrential all night and morning downpour. But they drying off in shed and stables. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Would have fought with you sooner but signal keeps going.
31 Mar 2012, 12:06 pm
finally the ref takes his sharks shades off!
31 Mar 2012, 12:08 pm
Number of mistakes from both sides but damn good game
31 Mar 2012, 12:10 pm
@CAPECRUSADER(CAPECRUSADER)-29: I don’t see any national teams playing. Shame did your daddy tell you to back the All Blacks cos they play a good brand of rugby? LMAO! Poor old coloured boy.
31 Mar 2012, 12:10 pm
Moore brilliant – either he or alberts for MOTM.
31 Mar 2012, 12:11 pm
Well done Tjarks! No time left for the Brumbies.
31 Mar 2012, 12:12 pm
Brumbies playing all the rugby but Sharks scoring the breakaways. Jake white has turned the Brumbies into “batterykoppe” like he did the Boks under his tenure!
31 Mar 2012, 12:14 pm
Slarti 72
u damn right he going to be a wobblie I reckon, monster
31 Mar 2012, 12:15 pm
To little to late…you would think?
31 Mar 2012, 12:17 pm
Aish!
31 Mar 2012, 12:17 pm
Feck Sharks..
31 Mar 2012, 12:18 pm
Sharks get out of jail
31 Mar 2012, 12:18 pm
PHEW!!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 12:18 pm
Always sad to see the better side lose, but that’s the nature of the game. In truth, the Sharks were poor. Two very fortuitous tries against the run of play saved them from a deserved defeat.
31 Mar 2012, 12:20 pm
Thank goodness.
Deserved a win last week and blew it. This week less so but held on.
3 out of 4 lost away. All the losses by 5 or less.
Let’s see if we can win 1 or 2 more then back to Durban
31 Mar 2012, 12:22 pm
Good job Sharks but ffs you make it hard.
31 Mar 2012, 12:22 pm
OFFS!!!!!!
31 Mar 2012, 12:22 pm
@Alucard(Alucard)-86: jake deserved to lose, deal with it
31 Mar 2012, 12:24 pm
well done sharks… congrats to their fans…
31 Mar 2012, 12:25 pm
@Treehugger(Treehugger)-73: is it mr leakey?
you tell him the ranger sends respec!
31 Mar 2012, 12:28 pm
@BrumbiesBoy(BrumbiesBoy)-89: hahahahahahahahaha
31 Mar 2012, 12:28 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-90: Oh dear, there you go again. Plum is turning out to be no better than Muir. Sloppy play amongst the backs and when that supposed grunt is negated up front they have nothing. Where was Bismarck? Best I saw of him was being skinned alive for that late try. So much reputation, so little done on the field. On the plus side, Alberts was huge and Michalak showed all the benefit of playing a real 10. Viljoen is consistently the Shark’s most productive back though whilst JP is still not settling in well at 13. For a side that is supposedly so robust they will be disheartened at hw easily the Brumbies punched massive yardage through each carry. As I say, they did all the playing, and only two very lucky tries saved a fairly average side from a deserved loss. That’s the reality.
31 Mar 2012, 12:30 pm
“Desperate Sharks Edge Brumbies”
Ok, now if it was the Stormers the title would have been:
“Magnificent Stormers destroy Australian Conference Leaders by 4 tries to 2 asway from home”
Keo’s journalists really scrape the bottom of the barrel.
And Keo wonders why Keo.Co.Za is going down the tubes.
By far the better side won.
31 Mar 2012, 12:31 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-76: wow!…great response,buddy.you are the only blogger making race comments all day.give yourself a congratulatory peosklap buddy.
31 Mar 2012, 12:32 pm
well done my sharks!
the brumbies have clearly been well coached, their work at the breakdown in particular is outstanding.
i thought keegan, marcel, jpp, viljoen, alberts and the biz were outstanding.
freddie was poor, he needs to learn how to pass again, mcleod was also very inaccurate today.
all in all, a fantastic game to watch, much like the cheetahs game.
roll on rugby.
31 Mar 2012, 12:32 pm
Sharks = Choke no cigar again this year.
31 Mar 2012, 12:35 pm
@Alucard(Alucard)-94: ag kuk man, the brumbies are deservedly leading the aussie conference and you pay them far too little respect on their home turf.
freddie was poor, his distribution and kicking were sub par. biz was huge both in terms of yardage and tackles.
you are clueless sonny, hit rewind on the vhs ok?
31 Mar 2012, 12:35 pm
have to agree with the heading here ,but as they say ,’look at the scoreboard’.congrats sharks
31 Mar 2012, 12:35 pm
Thinus delport is actually a bladdy good commentator. He speaks concisely too. He and fitzy are a bladdy good commentary team.
31 Mar 2012, 12:36 pm
@CAPECRUSADER(CAPECRUSADER)-96: ag stop being such a girl you little troll, its pathetic.
31 Mar 2012, 12:46 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-99:hear hear
31 Mar 2012, 12:48 pm
“Their only try was scored through fullback Jesse Mogg, who first profited from a forward pass and then showed a brilliant piece of individual skill to finish. ”
JC, with respect, its comments like this that render the rest of your article meaningless . The brumbies scored two tries and whilst you bemoan the sharks performance you seem to be happy to ignore the fact that the brumboes are leading the aussie conference and rightly so?
i will happily take the first sharks win in canberra since 1998 thanks.
31 Mar 2012, 12:51 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-103: haha howdy transie.
what amuses me is that the laddie talks in definitives as though his opinions, clouded by their obvious emotional bias, are fact.
the only fact is that his opinions are pretty humourous.
31 Mar 2012, 12:51 pm
@CAPECRUSADER(CAPECRUSADER)-96: Take out an atlas or a map – then try and figure out where on this planet you find yourself. Then ask yourself who deserves a pwoosklap. Blerrie Collegians mentality.
31 Mar 2012, 12:51 pm
Wow heart attack stuff!!! The frog was absolute ****!! Alucard u know fckall about rugby!! Go back to your hole!
31 Mar 2012, 12:53 pm
i think jpp is making an outstanding transition to 13.
sure, his rush led to the brumbies try (MAYBE he can be solely blamed, maybe) but if it had come off he would have trapped the brumbies miles behind the advantage line and may have led to a try.
nothing ventured…..
jpp is an amazing rugby player.
31 Mar 2012, 12:54 pm
Ranger I agree but to me the difference has been Whithead!! Good purchase!
31 Mar 2012, 12:54 pm
I mean Whitehead!
31 Mar 2012, 12:56 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-107: haha, alucard hates lambie so he had to punt freddie even though freddie himself will want to forget this performance.
cognitive dissonance, a terminal case.
go force!
31 Mar 2012, 12:57 pm
He is pathetic!! Sharks missed Lambie big time! But will take the win!!
31 Mar 2012, 12:58 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-108:
Hasn’t done alot at international level though, good super player.
31 Mar 2012, 12:59 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-109: well whitehead wasnt wonderful tonight but then again when your flyhalf and scrumhalf pass every ball above your head, behind you or onto the floor in front of you its hard to distribute effectively i suppose.
haha, reds getting a hammering. lovely to see the aussie conference is even weaker now that the rebs are involved. no free ride this year reds.
31 Mar 2012, 13:01 pm
Yeah the passing from the halfbacks was rubbish!! The Force are playing well!! Hope they win!!
31 Mar 2012, 13:02 pm
@greentea(greentea)-113: whaaat?
he has been an incumbent bok since he turned 20?
Do you really think the kick chase game we played for the last 3 years helped jpp or habs?
think back to the time before div, you remember, when our backline scored tries?
expect a return under meyer.
31 Mar 2012, 13:03 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-115: ja me too bud, haha mckenzie looks like he has had his toys taken away lol.
eina, the reds are being walloped so far.
31 Mar 2012, 13:05 pm
is it possible the bulls broke the reds mentally last week?
31 Mar 2012, 13:07 pm
The Bulls broke something! Reds still rattled!!
31 Mar 2012, 13:07 pm
the look on horwills face last week told a story.
31 Mar 2012, 13:08 pm
the aussie commentators led by cannon are willing the reds on lol.
31 Mar 2012, 13:09 pm
well played by the oke with the perm from due date.
31 Mar 2012, 13:11 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-116:
At international level I ‘ve rarely seen him beat a man on the outside and score a try against the big boys like say an Issy Dagg can and does.
Wouldn’t you hate being Meyer the whole nation pretends you lost because PDV was in charge, it was no different under White his record outside of the WC was excatly the same as PDV, clearly Meyer is a very good coach but he’s expected to change everything overnight and have the Bokke scoring fantastic backline tries, it ain’t going to happen.
31 Mar 2012, 13:12 pm
Kak title.
The Sharks were not desperate.
And neither did they edge it.
They were leading by 10 points until the last minute. Hardly an “edge”.
Good to win on tour and break the Canberra hoodoo.
Good to pick up the bonus point too. I mean, some other SA teams haven’t got a single bonus point yet.
Well done to the Cheetahs earlier. Now come on Lions!
31 Mar 2012, 13:14 pm
Lol. JPP is one of the better backline players in SA. Always amazes me how underrated he appears to be by most.
He has seemingly been a Bok for decades yet he is only 25.
31 Mar 2012, 13:14 pm
19-0? force
who woulda thunk it
31 Mar 2012, 13:15 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-125:
With respect thats not really saying much is it.
31 Mar 2012, 13:20 pm
@greentea(greentea)-123: lets wait and see shall we?
jpp is about the best defensive wing in world rugby and he runs lines that bryan never could, in fact he uses rugby acumen rather than pace alone and thats why he will still be a bok when bryan hangs up his boots.
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-125: ag i dont take it seriously any more when guys have a go at jpp. titles like “lazy, slow, defensively unsound etc etc” just make me laugh.
jpp was all over the park today, his workrate was simply awesome to see. that defensive clearance he tracked back for was sublime.
31 Mar 2012, 13:20 pm
@greentea(greentea)-127: Of course it is! Jaque Fourie, Frans Steyn, Jean De Villiers, Lwazi Mvovo , these are all fantastic backs. JPP stands head and shoulders amongst them. Stop being so pessimistic!
31 Mar 2012, 13:21 pm
@greentea(greentea)-127: expand on that statement for us please mr tea?
31 Mar 2012, 13:23 pm
because as far as i recall, jpp has a world cup, a tri nations, two cc’s and lacks only a superrugby title?
he has won in nz and often been a crucial if not deciding factor in a bok win such as the *** whupping we gave to england in 2008 at twickers on the eoyt (42-6, i was there that day, it was naaice).
31 Mar 2012, 13:25 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-131: I was also there that day. It was very naaice.
31 Mar 2012, 13:26 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-129: frans steyn and jpp as a midfield with lambie, viljoen and lwazi?
just need to get hoffman back and get sithole up to speed and thats a world class backline imo.
31 Mar 2012, 13:27 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-132:
but so very quiet for some reason lmao!
31 Mar 2012, 13:27 pm
After 3 years I am still not sure the sharks know what style of rugby they want to play.
31 Mar 2012, 13:27 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-133: yes, and put Odwa to pasture
Sithole is ready and waiting.
31 Mar 2012, 13:30 pm
i see samoa handed the blitzbokke a 38 point hiding.
wtf is the reason why with all the resources, player talent and money thrown at the 7′s setup, we cannot consistently compete with the top tier?
its disconcerting.
31 Mar 2012, 13:34 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-134:
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-136:
well done to your team. a vital win, i did not watch any rugby so far today so i cannot comment on any performances.
Ranger, well done in landing that big one too- where did you shoot it and at what depth? You seem to be on the way to stardom as a spearo
31 Mar 2012, 13:35 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-136: eish old odwa still has it in the kop, the guy is simply an outstanding rugby thinker, look at his intercept leading to a try and his break where he put viljoen away!
what was hilarious was listening to the kiwis led by kearns trying to pretend that odwa is a speedster instead of the slowest carthorse wing in superrugby lmao!
odwa will always be a sharks legend imo, he goes on the board with guys like jouba, teich, fyvie, smitty, mark andrews and dozens more stalwarts we will always remember (even cabous lmao!)
31 Mar 2012, 13:37 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-137:
Too many Orks quite simply…
31 Mar 2012, 13:39 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-139:
Cabous, lol, cool bloke, but only a journeyman as a winger.
Best Natal wingers ever (for me) was Cliffie Brown and Tony Watson.
31 Mar 2012, 13:42 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-138: haha, where did you hear about my queenie Robbo?
shot it in mozambique, paindaine which is near inhambane about 450 kms north of maputo. Was only about 10m deep but far out, diving off a fishing ski.
I am now the proud owner of a 1.3m Freedivers evo speargun! The owner of Freedivers gave it to me as he does with any spearo who shoots a world record with his gear.
its an awesome gun and i put a reel on it so i can hunt big couta, went off the bluff yesterday in about 20m of water but we were a bit late and the west came busting through so we didnt have any luck.
as for stardom, i am a hacker lol but i did come 5th out of 40 divers in our club cray comp last weekend. weighed a bug of 960 grams, the winning bug was 1.016 this year.
thats big for east coast kreef but yours are a lot bigger i think?
31 Mar 2012, 13:45 pm
neil penrose was a good wing aswell
31 Mar 2012, 13:47 pm
Sorry chaps was just making myself a pot of green tea, SA overall doesn’t have great backs the 1/4 against Aus highlighted that, JPP is a good player but as an attacking backline player at international level he comes up short.
31 Mar 2012, 13:47 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-141: haha, cabous profited from the **** muir and jeremy thompson combo quite nicely lol.
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-140: too many midgets imo.
31 Mar 2012, 13:47 pm
This Force game putting the Bulls win into perspective??
31 Mar 2012, 13:50 pm
@greentea(greentea)-144: no, this is not true bud.
what kind of green is that in your tea?
sa has incredible backs that are simply not used effectively.
i wont even bother naming them because…ag one name fdp? heard of him?
your statement seems to be an attempt at provocation, and thats just silly.
31 Mar 2012, 13:52 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-146: ja maybe but remember the reds are probably even weaker this week with further injuries and more travel under their belts.
31 Mar 2012, 13:52 pm
Love it when ranger talks fish
31 Mar 2012, 13:53 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-147:
certainly not my intention to stir things up, SA has world class forwards and good backs is that not a fair reflection at present, lets take Morne Steyn for example good player won’t be remembered by many in 10 years time.
FDP was world class for 2 or 3 seasons no problem with that.
31 Mar 2012, 13:59 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-149:
Ask yourself this Dawn,
Did that fish, ever wish Rangerman any harm?
I think not,
so we should all know by now who the real Villian is here,
should we not.
31 Mar 2012, 14:00 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-149:
howdy Dawnie!
we eat a lot of fresh fish in my house, thats for sure!
@greentea(greentea)-150: ok, fair enough your opinion but i personally think guys like frans steyn, frans hougie, jpp, lambie, jaque fourie and a few more are world class.
in fact my opinions are shared by the world as the salaries offered for these players services dwarf 99% of the rugby players worldwide so who am i to argue when economics has spoken?
i think you are confusing gameplan with ability and may find this year a little uncomfortable if you stick to the same line of reasoning.
is this the walla btw?
31 Mar 2012, 14:01 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-142:
Someone mentioned it on the blog.
A world record! It’s amazing. You are only modest I think.
The Jasus Llandii is probably on average a bit bigger than the ones you catch on the east coast but a 1 kg speciman is still quite a mother of a cray.We had quite a big walkout of crays on the west coast this week (red tide) – no diving skills needed to catch those, lol.
I have not dived for quite a while now- not as nice here in comparison to the tropical warm waters you are used to.
31 Mar 2012, 14:01 pm
@greentea(greentea)-150:
“certainly not my intention to stir things up……….”
Well Dangerman stirs every second chance he gets.
So take my advice, and take no shiit.
31 Mar 2012, 14:02 pm
@cane(cane)-151: haha, cane dont be grumpy because the cheetahs won only their 4th EVER game away from sa
if you are a vegan we can engage in this debate but if flesh passes your lips then i suggest a tactical retreat.
p.s. i will be the big bad bear
31 Mar 2012, 14:05 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-155:
If I didn’t enjoy meat so much, I would be a vegan.
8)
31 Mar 2012, 14:06 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-153: haha, seriously bud, a lot of luck involved but ja, a world record at ANYTHING is just so cool.
the water was close to 27 yesterday in durbs, thats the diving the ranger likes.
@cane(cane)-154:
from one stirrer to the next, many thanks!
31 Mar 2012, 14:07 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-129: Mvovo is a very poor defender and a very lazy player overall. He hugs the touchline and expects to be spoon fed. He has potential, but that is very unlikely to come through. JPP is a solid winger, his cover defence has been monstrous and saved is far too many times to be ignored. As a 13 though he is a liability. He can run the ball well enough, but an outside centre he certainly us not. Habana is still the premier wing though. No wing in SA can do what Habana can do. Beating 8 All Blacks through heavy traffic? I haven’t seen anyone come close to that. His work rate is the highest of all our wings and his defensive work outstanding. The best overall wing in world rugby. Jean is a nonentity though, has been stale for many years. At Super level he is okay, but nothing more. Jaque was a trojan last year, but de Jongh and Ebersohn are hot on his heels for the #13 jersey. Not many centres putting their hands up though. Olivier must however be credited. Particularly his performances at 13, which I thought would have exposed his lack of lateral mobility. That said, our best test centres are Frans, Fourie and de Jongh. The rest have it all to prove.
31 Mar 2012, 14:08 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-152:
At international level where it really counts F Steyn and Fourie have proved themselves, too early to say for Hougie and Lambie, JPP my views known.
Wealthy Frogs and **** throwing their Yen and Euro’s out the window may not necessarily be a true indication of how good a player is, scoring tries at Twickers or Eden Park is.
I doubt the Bokke game plan will change much this year unless Steyn is dropped at 10.
Who is Walla?
31 Mar 2012, 14:08 pm
I watched 127days backwards form the end to the start.It was a uplifting story about a amputee who who found a arm in the desert.
31 Mar 2012, 14:08 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-155:
I don’t mind the Cheatahs winning their 4 ever game away from home.
But why the fck can’t they do it somewhere else.
Like Perth or……………………
31 Mar 2012, 14:09 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-160:
was it a cartoon
31 Mar 2012, 14:12 pm
go google,true story.oke had to amputate his own arm with a pocketknife cause it was pinned down by a rock.
31 Mar 2012, 14:13 pm
@greentea(greentea)-159:
Hougie was SA’s most exciting back in the last WC.
A tragedy he never got more game time.
He would have made my “World Cup best 22″.
31 Mar 2012, 14:14 pm
And that is a huge accomplishment,
coming from a Team that finished 8=.
31 Mar 2012, 14:16 pm
@cane(cane)-164:
Police ten seven is showing on satelite here now.interesting to see that you find those type of people all over nz.funny and pathetic.
31 Mar 2012, 14:16 pm
@greentea(greentea)-159: Morne is far and away our best 10. If you want to play a genuine attacking game then Morne is the option. Goosen in later years may replace, but it would be foolish to call up so young and inexperienced. Morne measures his game and is our best decision maker at 10. Bambie is nothing more than a passive link and at test level is proven to put too much pressure on the rest of the backline. Jantjies is too one-dimensional and cannot control the game. There are also doubts over his physicality, particularly at test level. Our only test quality 10s are Morne and Goosen, nobody else comes remotely close to these two. The real key to our backline is Frans at 12. Jean has been holding us back since 2006 where his intercepts andd muddled play were sussed out. Under Peter there was nothing much going on outside of Morne. He is willing to pass, but has the sense not to pass for the sake of it, unlike Lambie or Jantjies. We need to be working on that aspect of play much more. With Hougaard and Morne we have the premier halfback combo in the world, breaking that up will be disastrous for the Boks.
31 Mar 2012, 14:17 pm
This game certainly showing how the Reds have no depth!!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:17 pm
@cane(cane)-154:
He seems like a nice fellow and I would be doing exactly the same defending my players, SA has a few world class backs and the rest are journeymen. Compared to Australia and NZ they are a distant third, during the WC when facing Wales Samoa and Australia thier backline barely functioned, that had nothing to do with gameplan.
31 Mar 2012, 14:18 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-163:
Oh yeah, I remember it now, from the “I shouldn’t be alive series”.
A bit like your story Fernly.
Once you were deceased. But rose again.
31 Mar 2012, 14:20 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-168:
They have just conceded over 100 points in the last 2 games!
31 Mar 2012, 14:20 pm
have you seen police ten seven cane?
cop ask the oke his dob and he replies
tenth of the tenth suck my ****
31 Mar 2012, 14:20 pm
If you want to play an attacking game the Motne is the best??? Wtf??? Hahahahaha!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:21 pm
Motne =morne
31 Mar 2012, 14:22 pm
Here’s your sign!!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:23 pm
@greentea(greentea)-169:
“He seems like a nice fellow …………”
I’m sure Dangerman is a nice fellow………………………………………to his Mum, to Mrs Ranger, to small fury animals, to people to whom he owes money, to other Sharkie fans……………………………..
But there is another side………………………………………………….just ask any fish.
31 Mar 2012, 14:23 pm
@Alucard(Alucard)-167:
The worlds premier halfs combo, I’m afraid with Morne there that just can’t be true. How many games has Hougie played at 9 for the Bokke?
31 Mar 2012, 14:27 pm
Greentea… Take that with a pinch of salt!! He will tell you hos blood is blue!! No really look at your veins!! They are blue!! Lol!
31 Mar 2012, 14:27 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-172:
Is this the NZ Police Ten Seven Show fernly.
Surely SA TV has better things to televise.
31 Mar 2012, 14:27 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-173: It’s true, Morne is our better distributor at 10. Lambie and Jantjies are not. But as I say, Morne does not pass just for the sake of passing. If you knew anything about rugby you would understand that the power of your attack comes from your centres. That’s where space is created for your wings and where you can hurt sides. Unfortunately Saffers do not do this very well at all. Our support play stinks, but the less cerebral of our bunch point solely to Morne for kicking too much (something he does not do) or to Habana for not scoring lots of tries. Little effort has been made to identify where our problems are because it has been fashionable to insult Morne and Habana. The reality is that Jean is the real culprit, as can be seen every time Frans has played 12. Frans, by perfoming the duties of a 12 to a very high standard, all of a sudden completes the puzzle and the Bok backline starts functioning again. Yes, even with Morne there! This idiotic myth that Morne is only a kicker (something that is exposed very, very easily by the stats) is as stupid as the myth that Lambie and Jantjies will be our saviour.
31 Mar 2012, 14:27 pm
so what is everyone braaing today?
for me it is rump estepadas,hot spanish sausage and toasted cheese and tomato sarmies with some biltong added.
31 Mar 2012, 14:29 pm
Morne is a good flyhalf… But never best distributor!! He has the best kicking game! But on attack?? Never!
31 Mar 2012, 14:29 pm
yes cane.it shows on zone reality on satelite tv,the stuff gets bought as a package of programmes so they cannot choose.
having been to a lot of place there i do inderstand it better.
31 Mar 2012, 14:31 pm
Has Morne ever broken a line? Or a tackle?
31 Mar 2012, 14:32 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-184:
or even a sweat.
8)
31 Mar 2012, 14:32 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-172:
Can you please explain your nic, do you work in the porn industry?
31 Mar 2012, 14:35 pm
no greentea,my **** is too small and i have lice.cane will vouch for that
31 Mar 2012, 14:35 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-146: Indeed putting it into perspective. The Bulls are not as good as the result made them to be. This afternoon’s clash will further drive home that point!
31 Mar 2012, 14:38 pm
I see provincial bias runs rampant here. The fact is that the Bull’s are the best and most well rounded SA side out there and Morne is one of the standout players. Even when they run rampant over quality sides you lot are never willing to give Morne credit. I suppose it comes down to not being able to think for yourselves. I have noted with interest how your perspectives change instantly with that of the media offings.
31 Mar 2012, 14:38 pm
Cane lol!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:39 pm
@Alucard(Alucard)-180: I have yet to see Frans Styen perform at the level you allude to. Against tough opposition he’s been downright embarrassing IMO. Very overrated player. He’s been a liability to his club too. He’s always getting subbed.
31 Mar 2012, 14:40 pm
All that coming from a Bulls supporter!! The most provincial one eyed supporters!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:41 pm
@Alucard(Alucard)-189: Morne Steyn the best flyhalf in SA? Surely you jest?
31 Mar 2012, 14:43 pm
He dont!!
31 Mar 2012, 14:43 pm
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-184: No, never, but he has broken a toenail!
31 Mar 2012, 14:47 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-187:
You have a small wanger and Police 10 is your favourite TV show, you sound like quite a guy.
31 Mar 2012, 15:03 pm
Whoa something has made the normally placid vewy vewy gwumpy today.
Let me guess, it has nothing to do with the Cheetahs
31 Mar 2012, 15:04 pm
Well done Sharkies, good win!
31 Mar 2012, 15:06 pm
“the normally placid Cane”
31 Mar 2012, 15:21 pm
Now if I was Skim,
I would be claiming this number.
31 Mar 2012, 15:45 pm
greentea,i never said it was my fav show.i just told cane that it is showing on satelite here.
nothing more,nothing less.
31 Mar 2012, 15:54 pm
who wanted it more…
lots of kak reffing though.
31 Mar 2012, 16:03 pm
Largest crowd for a club/provincial rugby match in history, with 85,000 at Wembley today for Saracens v Harlequins, overtaking the crowd for Leinster v Munster at Croke Park a few years ago of 82,000.
I wonder how close the SH gets? Must be a game in SA with the bigger stadia but I wouldn’t guess any bigger than 55,000 to 60,000.
31 Mar 2012, 16:31 pm
Small wanger with lice.
1 Apr 2012, 08:24 am
Wooden spoon
Does south africa have the biggest stadia in the SH?
In union we dont have thebig turnouts at club or S14 level but at international level for bledisloe we will get 85-90 000. AFL and league finals we get 85k easy…which sucks as it highlights what most people watch in Aus.
Afl clubs consistently get 45k easily…just for the round robin games.
1 Apr 2012, 09:24 am
A win is a win!
1 Apr 2012, 09:59 am
Wallabie no… Sydney stadium is bigger than our Rugby Stadiums! But we do have FNB Stadium now for Internationals…
1 Apr 2012, 10:05 am
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-207: The olympic stadium holds aboput 80 000 and the MCG nearly 100 000.
1 Apr 2012, 12:50 pm
Perhaps someone could tell us what the highest attendance is for a Super rugby game?
1 Apr 2012, 12:52 pm
According to Wiki the highest Super rugby attendance is 55,000, 30 May 2009 (Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria) being the final between the Bulls and Chiefs.
That is some 30,000 off the NH record…
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