Just nominated one player from each sub-unit of the team as the leader, ie front row, lock pairing, loose trio, half back pairing, inside backs and back trio.

If you have at least one experience player in every sub-unit to give guidance to your less experienced players and help with decision making, you can’t claim inexperience as an excuse when you lose.

But, as you pointed out, some of their “lesser experience” players are also very experienced.

I think nama forgot W. Kruger, Ndungane, J Vermaak

…which means that Seamus’ point about the so-called inexperience of the Pink Bulls is hogwash.

Your redneck heritage is clearly showing through, pretending that two Springboks are now somehow inexperienced, Juandre Kruger has played internationally as well as for the Bulls in previous games, yet now somehow he hasn’t got any experience?

One could make a case for Sadie, but it is most definitely not his first season of Superrugby, even though he is pretty young.

Fact remains, a number of the Bulls players has played in a supperrugby winning team, you only lost Matfield, Du Preez and Botha x 2 (I don’t count Rossouw as he isn’t a regular starter (your logic)) then two flankers through injury…although injury is a crutch all super teams must bear…

The Stormers on the other hand lost Jacque Fourie, CJ van der Linde, Francois Louw, Schalk Burger (Injury), Deon Carstens (Injury), (All Springboks), not to mention the other players who would NOT have started necessarily like Sadie, Whitehead, Van Zyl, Pieter Louw etcetera…

Which is where the issue of depth comes in, something many Bulls pride themselves on, the magnificent structures in place at Camp Loftus, if the structures cannot yield sufficient depth, then I am sorry, I cannot see how that can be used as an excuse…it is pretty lame, and almost entirely your own fault.

bissie, jannie, beast, alberts, bosman, jpp, odwa, mvovo

brock, tiaan, bekker, vermuelen, grant, jdv, jdj, habana, aplon

The Bulls have enough experience overall in their team.

Chilliboy
v/d Merwe
Spies
Morne
WO
Kirchner

As a spine, you can’t get more experience than that amongst SA teams in Super rugby, I think.

uhuh…?

1. Greyling
2. Rapelle – 1st season starting
3. Kruger
4. J Kruger – 1st season starting
5. Van der Merwe –
6. Stander – First Season
7. Potgieter – First Season
8. Spies
9. Hougaard – 1st season starting at 9
10 Steyn
11. Basson
12. Olivier
13. Sadie – 1st season starting and in a new team
14. Ndungane
15. Kircshner

Since you scored two tries and we only one and we had 15/9 penalties…..you can have the win and the 4 log points…….BUT….then we want the 2010 Title since then Craig cost us that final….when we scored 2 tries to your 1 and the penalty count was like one zillion /6….DEAL?????

If you are in posession of the ball, and your scrum is being dominated, the opposing team should be considered the attacking team. All they should be doing is out pushing, out hooking and not boring in.

EG – Aussie team 5m from their try line with posession. If the opposing team attacks, the opposing team would not want to wheel, collapse or transgress. They would only want to outshove, outhook etc.

Posession does not determine attacking and defensive scrums, more field placement comes into play.

Interresting that the majority of scrum transgressions occur in kickable penalty zones. Hence it could be regarded that a scrum in your half is defensive (irrespective of posession) and in the opponents half is attacking (irrespective of posession)

Thats my thoughts anyway.

Vermeulen is a vuilgat. In time he will need to calm that sh it down if he pulls n green and gold over the head. Bekker not far behind.

Greyling will also need a sitting down with. Good strength and aggression but wrongly channelled.

Anyway lets see what happens this weekend with CAPECRUSADER’s trilkoppies rolling into Snor City. Expect the Bulls to nail this one though. If the Saders pin their hopes on the ballet performance they showed on Saturday, Loftus is going to be a loud place for them.

I didn’t think is was such a great game. Brutal – yes, but the overall quality of rugby was poor.

I re-viewed the Bulls try a few times on PVR and the first pass was definitely WELL forward. The second pass was marginal and I am willing to call it “flat” but I can’t understand how the hell the linesman missed the blatantly forward pass.

The Bulls also never entered rucks ‘through the gate’ – only once did Craig ping them for it near the end.

The ‘sealing off’ call against Kolisi in the first half when the Stormers where on attack (in the Bulls 22) was a joke. I can show you a dozen other cases where ‘sealing off’ could have been blown in but were not.

Plenty of high tackles on both sides were missed.

It also irritates me how certain refs award a penalty if a prop’s hand touches the ground but others allow it all game long without EVER blowing their whistle. If it is a penalty the EVERY ref MUST award a penalty EVER TIME A HAND touches the ground – not only when they feel like it.

Games are being ruined by inept refs and linesmen – the IRB needs to change the rules to remove “interpretation” or else the game will suffer.

Craig J – was pathetic in the WC Final and gifted NZL the win, France would have walked it if he was not biased against them.

could easily have been MOTM… and… had the bulls won… most probably would have been…