Comments on: Hargreaves signs with Saracens http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/ An independent look at South African rugby Sun, 19 May 2013 12:02:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: hensopper1(hensopper1) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105897 hensopper1(hensopper1) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:12:36 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105897 Good point Williev. I believe Monument scouted him from Namibia.

]]> By: willievz(willievz) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105873 willievz(willievz) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:48:15 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105873 @benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow)-17: Is he Chaka’s son?

Sure looks like him.

]]> By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105868 mshiniwami(mshiniwami) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:39:40 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105868 @viewer(viewer)-19:

very good point there…His conditioning

With rugby having advanced way past just SIZE and now more towards athletic tight forward who are able to produce max power output a multitude of times during a game-CONDITIONING is name of the game. Paul Willemse will have to walk his diet as well since he has the propensity to gain weight/ballooning. Many a polynesian boys(and boereseuns-Richard Bands) who were gigantic in u19/u20′s dont make it due to their lack of professionalism linked to their conditioning… young chiefs prop Ben Tameifuna also has to shed a few in compete at higher level

]]> By: pat1(pat1) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105866 pat1(pat1) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:33:12 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105866 @benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow)-17:

He’s down at 124 kg now, when he arrived at Lions he was 135. I cant wait to see this guy play at the Junior champs, feel for some of those younger players.

Lions actually have real potential in their junior lock stocks – Ruan Venter is another sizeable no4 and Ruan Botha is 2m 04 at about 19-20, a bit slimmer but a lineout player. Think we will see a lot more of all of them in the next few weeks.

]]> By: viewer(viewer) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105861 viewer(viewer) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:17:41 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105861 He seemed to do well at junior international level. PdV coached him at junior world champs.

Jeez that freak of nature Willemse you talking about is 19. Man! Physiologically speaking he’ll only stop growing in his mid 20′s. He’ll pass 200cm soon. The only bogey will be his conditioning. . .

]]> By: greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105769 greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:10:54 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105769 @benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow)-17:

Ashley – thats one for highlights

]]> By: benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105716 benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:25:14 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105716 @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-14:

Full name Paul Willemse
Date of birth 13 November 1992 (age 19)
Place of birth Pretoria, South Africa
Height 1.99 m (6 ft 6 1?2 in)
Weight 135 kg (21 st 4 lb)
School Monument High School

The man is a beast! – Ashley Johnson will remember him!

]]> By: Markel77(Markel77) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105706 Markel77(Markel77) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:15:56 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105706 Good luck Hargreaves. Not the best lock out there but a decent contributor for sure.
But with the likes of Sykes, Marais, Bresler and the youngster Piet du Toit there wasnt place for him.

]]> By: mad eye(mad eye) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105699 mad eye(mad eye) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:04:51 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105699 @.Jonck11
Idiot how many Stormers players left for the U.K last year.
Allie is one of very few players to captain a World Cup winning team even if it was an under 19 one he still did it.
He is still young enough to make it and could come back a much beter player.

]]> By: greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105694 greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:01:57 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105694 @benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow)-7:

Paul Willemse, 135kg!

yes..moved well in his first game. Looks be a young Rudi Visagie(OVS) front of the lineout beast clone!

]]> By: greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105690 greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:59:23 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105690 dont come back

in the picked on protential but fail Bok basket.

Saracens still an English side??

]]> By: willievz(willievz) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105674 willievz(willievz) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:50:41 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105674 @Jonck(Jonck)-11: They speak the better English :)

]]> By: Jonck(Jonck) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105648 Jonck(Jonck) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:32:33 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105648 Why is it so that it is usually Sharks players moving to the UK?

]]> By: Sasuke(Sasuke) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105578 Sasuke(Sasuke) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:57:46 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105578 @THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-9: lets wait and see.

]]> By: THE MAULER(THE MAULER) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105559 THE MAULER(THE MAULER) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:47:33 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105559 Sasuke Sharks have a few SA under 20 Locks coming through.. Should be fine…

]]> By: logie_Jumpbuck(logie_Jumpbuck) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105537 logie_Jumpbuck(logie_Jumpbuck) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:35:17 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105537 good riddance…

]]> By: benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105532 benno_on_tow(benno_on_tow) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:30:12 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105532 No loss whatsoever……this oke is proper useless!

Eben Etzebeth,Juandre Kruger,Rynhard Elstadt are all better options!
Paul Willemse made a bigger statement in his first game in S15 @ 19 years of age!

I reckon he will be a bit part player at Saracens too!

]]> By: ufo(ufo) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105521 ufo(ufo) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:21:07 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105521 @Sasuke(Sasuke)-4:

how can you tell…? :wink:

i see this as a glass half full moment…

he’s made way for victor…!!

]]> By: mshiniwami(mshiniwami) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105518 mshiniwami(mshiniwami) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:19:22 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105518 This boy got a free ride to the big time.

How he got Bok caps don’t hav a clue

Was never even good enough to be a starter for the Sharks.

Joins other non factors like Britz,Ernst Joubert etc

Even Mouritz Botha is better than Hargreaves.

]]> By: Sasuke(Sasuke) http://keo.co.za/2012/04/16/hargreaves-signs-with-saracens/#comment-2105515 Sasuke(Sasuke) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 10:16:57 +0000 http://www.keo.co.za/?p=98282#comment-2105515 Big loss for the Sharks. Their Lock stocks are quite low now. They would need to recruit aggressively or bring up a few youngsters in the Currie Cup.

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