Ruthless Saders give Stormers free lesson
16 Apr 2012
JON CARDINELLI writes the Stormers will need more than guts to end their 11-year trophy drought.
Consider the term ‘brave defeat’. Which word ultimately matters?
That the Stormers showed tremendous valour in Christchurch is not up for debate. They lost both of their starting locks in the first half, and still they managed to stand up to an All Blacks-studded Crusaders pack. They lost Rynhardt Elstadt to an absurd call from referee Chris Pollock in the final quarter, and still they managed to collect a losing bonus point.
But brave defeats are still defeats. There should be no consolation for title aspirants when they drop a game against other big contenders. The Stormers should not find solace in the fact that they went to Christchurch and pushed the seven-time champs close. The reality is it was a game the Stormers could have won had they been more bloody-minded.
It was the difference between the two sides. The Crusaders have a knack of winning games they shouldn’t, it’s become something of a trademark. They may not dominate a fixture from start to finish but they make the most of their opportunities, however few they are in number. This was once again highlighted in the most recent clash with the Stormers.
There are some Stormers fans who will aim their frustration at referee Chris Pollock. While I agree that Pollock had a howler last Saturday, I wouldn’t say he cost the Cape side the game. If anything Pollock was consistent, handing out dubious yellow cards to both teams and missing the sleight of hand at both sides of the breakdown.
But which team made the most of the referee’s mistakes? The Stormers benefited from a Pollock gaffe in the build-up to Bryan Habana’s try. A knock on by Joe Pietersen wasn’t spotted by Pollock or his assistants, and so the try stood at what was an important period of the contest.
The Stormers suffered a terrible blow when Andries Bekker and Eben Etzebeth left the field with injuries in the first half, but they had a fantastic opportunity to take the lead towards the end of the second quarter. Crusaders prop Wyatt Crockett was carded for an innocuous tackle and so the hosts went a man down for 10 minutes.
It’s not clear why the Stormers are unable to take advantage in these situations. The Hurricanes were down to 13 men in the first round match against the Stormers, but the Cape side still battled to breach the Hurricanes line. It was embarrassing to see flyhalf Gary van Aswegen kicking a drop goal after a 15-man Stormers attack failed to penetrate a 13-man Hurricanes defence.
Looking back, we can say that impotency proved a sign of things to come.
Last Saturday, the Stormers scored three points while Crockett was off the park, but also conceded three at the other end. The Stormers should have piled on the points at this stage, and were made to regret blowing such an opportunity later in the piece.
The Crusaders were ruthless by comparison. When Elstadt was sin-binned they scored nine points. From there, they continued to pressure the Stormers and with the visitors trailing by 10 points that pressure told, with the Stormers making some basic errors in their own 22. The Crusaders finished this game well but the match was won while Elstadt was in the bin.
There is no denying the Stormers were at a disadvantage having lost both locks, and that they did remarkably well to emerge with a losing bonus point. But looking at the game as a whole and how close they came to recording their first-ever win in Christchurch, they should be disappointed more than anything else.
That it is not a new thing to squander such opportunities should be cause for concern. They had the Sharks on the rack in round two when Ross Skeate was yellow-carded in the 60th minute. They should have closed out the game but only scored three points, and when Skeate returned the Sharks launched a fierce challenge that so nearly forced an upset.
When they hosted the Bulls, the Stormers had a golden opportunity to extend their lead when lock Flip van der Merwe was carded in the 42nd minute. But again they wilted under the pressure, they didn’t seem to enjoy the advantage. They didn’t score again until the 62nd minute. In fact it was the Bulls who scored 10 unanswered points while Van der Merwe was off the field.
The Stormers have shown a lot of guts this season, the manner in which they defend shows their incredible courage under fire. There is a big difference, however, between courage and ruthlessness.
Being brave isn’t enough to win championships. The Stormers need to start showing some killer instinct if they want to be genuine title contenders rather than also-rans.
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405 Comments
16 Apr 2012, 05:07 am
Ruthless Saders? Is that not pushing the DRAGON a little to far?
Do the keo scribes getpaid bonusses based on the more rediculous headings they can come up with?
16 Apr 2012, 05:18 am
As for incompetent refs, the moment you get into a situation where you compare who ‘benefitted’ most from mistakes a ref made you are already a long way down the wrong track. There is absolutely no way you can gauge what one mistake cost a team in a specific time/place in a match to another at a different time and place.
Same goes for the argument that a better tem would have/should have overcome a poor ref, it just does not work that way. Impossible to say what would have been if you were not stuck at the wrong end of various dodgy decisions against you. Take the Cheetahs and Chiefs for instance, Brussow wins what appears to be a perfect turnover ball just to be blown up. The lineout following leads to a try to the Chief and Bob’s your uncle. How can we say what the impact would have been if he did not get blown up or even worse told to harden up because these things even out. So where was the Cheetahs opportunity to score a try from a ref error to make this up?
See, very shaky ground when you talk about a ref being poor ‘to both sides’.
Now I posted erlier that I do not have an issue because I do think the Chiefs were the better side and probably would have won anyway and deserve to win as well. But that should not stop us from fighting poor refs and we should NEVER accept it no matter if you win or lose.
16 Apr 2012, 05:38 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-2: Refs have been dreadful for at least the last 4 years. The departure of Paddy is sure to help but the game is still suffering. I’ve argued before and I continue to believe that the Kiwi teams get most of the decisions go their way despite the fact that more of their play resolves around illegalities than any other nation.
Did anyone else think that the guy who handled the Force game did a pretty good job?? I think he did pretty well the week before too. Can’t remember his name though.
16 Apr 2012, 05:48 am
@jeest(jeest)-3:
From the All Blacks down they play a very cynical game and it does appear they get away with a lot, not many tricks they miss.
16 Apr 2012, 05:48 am
Hehehe..
Hardly a free lesson we got…
a costly lesson in terms of log points, injuries and momentum…
and there’s no evidence that we will indeed learn from this…
let’s hope so…
we shall see how (if) they bounce back… or get bounced… this weekend…!!!
16 Apr 2012, 05:50 am
A kicking lesson? by a #10 31 points?
16 Apr 2012, 05:56 am
@jeest(jeest)-3:
The first thing your coach teaches you is respect the refs decisions. Be nice to them. Show them some humility. Never abuse them and perhaps you may get some calls go your way.
16 Apr 2012, 06:11 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-4:
Cynical play?Do you suffer from cataracts? Only in one eye aye.
16 Apr 2012, 06:19 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-8:
Yes, cynical but I do not expect you to see or admit it.
16 Apr 2012, 06:37 am
“The reality is it was a game the Stormers could of won had they been more bloody-minded.”
Could OF???? OF?????? It’s ‘could have’. Please don’t ever do that again. It makes the story read like a post from a forum member, not a professional sports writer.
As far as the game goes, the Stormers were just blown off the park. How can you win anything if the opposition kicks 9 penalties? At least 4 of those were terrible calls. Deserved win for the Crusaders, but they weren’t necessarily that much better than the Stormers.
16 Apr 2012, 06:40 am
Ever since the ELVs got brought in there has been so much changing of the laws and the refs just haven’t kept up with the pace the game has evolved at. The SANZAR referees are constantly coming up with stupid ideas, for example this year they said that 80% of all scrums must be completed on the first hit. This has just led to willy nilly penalty blowing and it really is just a 50:50 call, because the referees have no idea about anything when it comes to scrummaging. It would be far better to have re-setted scrums and a real contest ensuing at scrum time until its blatantly obvious who is in need of penalising. Making the scrums unimportant is almost like a rugby equivalent of a stealth tax! Props are picked more for their mobility then for their scrumming. If scrums were more important and officiated properly, then better scrummagers would be of primary requirement and mobility would be of less importance. This would create more space in the open play and more mismatches, leading to more excitement. Australia however knows that it will have no chance of competing if this is so and is desperate to make rugby union and rugby league merge, so that they can be dominant. Rugby needs fat boys more then it needs the bodybuilders!!!
16 Apr 2012, 06:59 am
Dont blame the ref. Blame Lady luck
“suffered a terrible blow when Andries Bekker and Eben Etzebeth left the field with injuries in the first half”
Kitchoff did well before he was bendt brokeback by Franks Franks Crockett . I rate Tiaan scrum ability as reason Province held their own at times during the match. Credit to Juan De Jond for he was my man of match for Province. But will it be Jean or Francios who will partner him for Boks??
16 Apr 2012, 07:05 am
@greentea(greentea)-976:
for good reason, china.
you and most of the rest of your islands inhabitants are disgusting, boorish, arrogant beer can throwing trollbits (a cross between a hobbit and a troll) who deserve to be told off for what you are, from time to time.
that neither you nor cane had the decency to admit the bottling incident let alone try to explain/excuse/apologise…. or at the least condemn it without feeling you were in some way losing pride (or whatever it is that keeps you from doing so) speaks the usual volumes of you as a people…..yes….you are a disgusting lot of filthy cheats, bottle throwers, cheap shotters, low, dirty unscrupulous liars and self delusional deceivers…..
you guys need to sort yourselves out…simple really….
then the world might actually start to like like you.
16 Apr 2012, 07:06 am
Every team should learn from every game. It is called experience and it is why so many coaches value this.
16 Apr 2012, 07:08 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-4:
farken disgusting rugby they play.
i’d be happier if we pulled out of this sanzar farce.
16 Apr 2012, 07:09 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-9:
We obviously have different perspectives, but when the onus on disciplining players for cynical play is put solely on the referee then there is likely to be stuff-ups.
16 Apr 2012, 07:11 am
The Stormers are still in a pretty good position on the log. They now play two Ausie teams, at least 8 points to bank on.
They do not need to complain.
16 Apr 2012, 07:16 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-16:
Spot on TR and that is my problem, from what I see the AB and Crusaders do it does look like something that comes from the training paddock.
16 Apr 2012, 07:18 am
The biggest lesson here is that the difference between the top few teams is home advantage, keeping penalty count down, not making mistakes and remaining uninjured… not much more to say other than the bounce of the ball!
16 Apr 2012, 07:25 am
Any news on injuries??
16 Apr 2012, 07:27 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-13:
An 87-year-old man who told a group of teens to get off his property was pushed over, hitting his head, police say.
The incident happened after he approached a group of teenagers climbing in bushes outside his Waikanae Beach home at about 4.45pm on Saturday.
Detective Matt Campbell said the man had walked to the front of his property and asked the teenagers to get out of his trees and move along.
”He was verbally abused with one of the youths replying, ‘Who’s going to make us?’
”The teenager then struck out at the gentleman, pushing him off-balance where he fell onto the roadway.”
He was unable to break his fall and his head struck the roadway.
He was found bleeding profusely from the head soon after by neighbours in the Rutherford Drive and Freyberg Crescent area and taken to Wellington Hospital with serious injuries, including lacerations to his face and fractures to his cheekbone.
The teenagers are believed to have run off down William Street and have not been found.
Mr Campbell wanted to hear from anyone who may have seen the assault or seen a group of possible drunk and noisy teenagers in the area at the time.
”This assault on an elderly resident protecting the sanctity of his home is a cowardly attack on a helpless frail old man.
”Whether or not [the offender] describes it as a simple push does not detract from the fact that an elderly gentleman has suffered serious injuries as a result of a foolish act.
“The suspect needs to be held accountable and come forward and speak to Police.”
The main suspect is a male of about 18, probably European with a shaved head, and wearing a black top, black three quarter length shorts and a black baseball cap.
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16 Apr 2012, 07:29 am
What is update on etzebeth’s injury
16 Apr 2012, 07:30 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-13:
And these keewees make out like xenophobia and racism only exists in SA…
A self-described “little old Chinese lady” has waded into the racism debate, saying she has suffered decades of racial abuse.
Victoria Beck, 70, said she has been abused in the street, told to go back to Asia, and even been hit by passers-by, despite calling New Zealand home for most of her life. And the situation was worsening, she said.
“As a little old Chinese lady, I am the target of much more physical, verbal and emotional abuse today.”
Her complaint came after Blues coach Pat Lam suffered racist attacks on internet message boards and talkback radio because of his team’s failings.
Beck said she was not surprised at the attacks against Lam and his team. She migrated here with her family at the age of six and was given an English name to ease the transition. She later took on her husband’s surname.
But having an English name did not stop the racism, she said. “I want people to know how damn vicious some whites are here. The root of it has always been a colour division.”
She recalls being pushed into the gutter in Auckland’s Parnell by a group of young people who told her to “go home, Asian”.
Growing up here, she said, neighbours would scrawl racist remarks on the footpath outside her home. “I felt shame as if there was something wrong with me, my family, my race,” she said. “Chinese have long been a despised minority here.”
She called on ethnic groups to speak up against racism. “Chinese who have lived here for a long time have had hard lives and want to remain under the radar, while those in positions of influence tend to keep quiet in fear of losing their jobs.”
The Sunday Star-Times recently highlighted the plight of the country’s growing number of residents with Asian heritage. Many of those, referred to as the 1.5 generation because of their mixed heritage, raised concerns of discrimination because of their colour and foreign names.
Beck said she witnessed that when she worked as a recruitment consultant in the 1980s and 1990s. “Most applicants of colour did not make the cut.” The Human Rights Commission in New Zealand receives, on average, 472 complaints of racial discrimination, incitement and harassment each year.
RACE RELATIONS HEAD CALLS RACISTS COWARDS
Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres has described the authors of the racist abuse directed at Warriors star Shaun Johnson and the Blues as “cowards”. Johnson was labelled a “Asian little gimp” in a posting to his Twitter account shortly after the Warriors’ 32-12 loss to Canberra last weekend.
Ad Feedback 0 The message came to light 48 hours after Blues coach Pat Lam went public with his fury over online and talkback racial abuse directed at him, his family and his players. De Bres said: “I think there is a tendency for people to give vent to their prejudice at the push of a button.”
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16 Apr 2012, 07:38 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-23: I love it when Chinese complain of racism. They are the worst culprits on the planet by far!
16 Apr 2012, 07:39 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-22:
I think he will live Dawn, so you can relax…
16 Apr 2012, 07:42 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-21: @Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-23: you really are one thick dutchie arent you boy?
http://allafrica.com/stories/201203271076.html
http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/gettingaway_withmurder.htm
http://rape.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=875&itemid=148
how anyone from a country with stats like these can continue to post about another countries problems is beyond me..have a good read Fern, a woman has more chance of getting raped in SA than learning to read???? WTF?
Absolutely appalling…
for you to houston, this highlights real “filth” and “scum”..
16 Apr 2012, 07:43 am
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-24:
I will have to take your word,so they are on par with keewees then.
What have you experienced in order to say so?
16 Apr 2012, 07:44 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-23:
yip, thats the kiwis we know.
we see it in their rugby all the farken time but our administrators dont have the balls to sort this verminous behaviour out.
the crusaders, with their three-******* only rule, exemplify the typical traits of kiwis as a whole by the way they play thier low, dirty, cynical style of rugby. so its no surprise really to read this sort of stuff about their everyday people.
“she said. “I want people to know how damn vicious some whites are here. The root of it has always been a colour division.”
She recalls being pushed into the gutter in Auckland’s Parnell by a group of young people who told her to “go home, Asian”.
Growing up here, she said, neighbours would scrawl racist remarks on the footpath outside her home. “I felt shame as if there was something wrong with me, my family, my race,” she said. “Chinese have long been a despised minority here.” …….
welcome to hobbitville….
16 Apr 2012, 07:44 am
I must know!
16 Apr 2012, 07:45 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-26:
Welcome back,I see you are just returning serve as per usual…
We have problems and I am not blind to them.
Just saying that nz is not utopia as you guys make it out to be,
you should know,living in aus…
16 Apr 2012, 07:46 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-23:
I can give you a litany of racial abuse that I have encountered here and in Oz, it hurts and causes anger. But the way you are posting these articles to appease your own and fellow country men self worth is disgusting.Grow up man.
16 Apr 2012, 07:47 am
Bakkies and Small Wanger with Lice.
Stop posting your tripe on this thread
It’s a rugby blog/story FFS
16 Apr 2012, 07:48 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-31:
I dont apease anyone.
I am just highligting that even nz has problems.
Do you even live in nz?
16 Apr 2012, 07:49 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-20:
According to the Cape Times Quinn Roux will be called up to NZ as back up- they indicated Bekker is likely to be out for Saturday and Etsebeth likely to be fit. The way I read it however is that Bekker is out of the tour and Etsebeth at least out of the match.
The Afrikaans paper is less clear- only indicating that Bekker received a hard knock on the lower back and Eben injured a shoulder joint and that neither are serious.
Pack for Friday likely to be:
Malherbe
Tiaan
Kitschoff
Steenkamp
Elstadt
Kolisi
Vermeulen
Koster
16 Apr 2012, 07:50 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-22:
He is just about fine they say.
The new Fudge?
16 Apr 2012, 07:50 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-29:
he will make it and the scarring will be minimal…
16 Apr 2012, 07:51 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-15:
You should pull out of SANZAR your lot aren’t up to the challenge, 10 tri nations to your 3 and six straight losses to Australia says you’d be better off up north you’d have far more chance of avoiding the woden spoon playing Italy and Scotland.
16 Apr 2012, 07:51 am
BMT boys BMT – there are champions side then there are currie cup sides – maybe next year !
16 Apr 2012, 07:51 am
Cheers all,have a great day/evening.
I need to go and see some clients who need my expertise.
Werk maak sterk!
16 Apr 2012, 07:53 am
Indeed Rob
Watsup Slarti. Suddenly my scarring has minimised too!
16 Apr 2012, 07:57 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-40:
Just pulling your sock, I heard you screaming all the way over here when he got injured…I felt your pain!
16 Apr 2012, 07:59 am
16 Apr 2012, 08:02 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-15:
I tell you whats disgusting, is you all blaming everybody else for your incompetent teams. Whether thats Super 15 to Internationals.
Every excuse.
You blame Kiwis for most of your losses. You blame tiredness and refs for your EOTY tours.
If no kiwis are around when you lose its POB fault.
When was the last time you have admitted that the Boks are not good enough to win their games?
All of the above is disgusting and cowardly.
Do yourselves a favour and pull out, cry in the NH. I am sure they would be happy to another whinging lot up there. You and England have alot in common in that department.
DISGUSTING
16 Apr 2012, 08:03 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-26:
are you from auckland, poppa?
16 Apr 2012, 08:03 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-34: With Etzebeth on the bench. Kokie and Elstadt did well when called upon. Malherbe still gives away too many needless penalties so it is risky starting him. I would still start Brok and bring Malherbe on. I would maybe start Deon Fourie and give Tiaan a rest. He is raring to go.
16 Apr 2012, 08:05 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-31:
Right on.
I dont know why these clowns do this.
We in NZ know that racism is everywhere. Not one country can say it does not exist.
Whats a shame is Fern here posting it and making him feel all good inside.
LOSER Fern
16 Apr 2012, 08:08 am
@greentea(greentea)-37:
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-43:
you are verminous cheats, this is the problem.
the problem does not lie with us, it lies with you.
16 Apr 2012, 08:14 am
The secret of winning the strompies is to get ahead on points , with their defence mindset game , they don’t know how to score from first phase. That’s the reason they can not score points when they have the advantage of 15-13 players
16 Apr 2012, 08:15 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-46:
Right, do me a favour and tell china that. He has been proclaiming for days now that there are ‘no more than a dozen’ racists in the whole of NZ.
16 Apr 2012, 08:16 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-45:
It might be a good idea to start a few “fresh” players on Friday as it will be a short 6 day (recovery) week for the Stormers while the Reds will be relatively fresh after their bye.De Kock seems to have lift his game and is playing much better than last year while I would also give Fourie a start at hooker (only worrying factor is his lack of accuracy when throwing into the lineouts).
16 Apr 2012, 08:20 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-47:
Oh so the Boks have no problems? lol
Just let it go. You having problems with admitting the boks are not as good as you think or want them to be.
16 Apr 2012, 08:24 am
I thought the Stormers did quite well when they actually tried to use the ball and not try to kick it away. Unfortunately 90% of the time they tried to kick it away. Must say I have not rated Van den Heever but he has impressed me on Saturday. Stormers other problem was that they have given the Crusaders far too much penalties!
Steenkamp and Elstadt has actually done very good at lock.
16 Apr 2012, 08:25 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-27: Its just not realised as a problem to discriminate anyone who isn’t Chinese, its just the way it is. Mandarin Chinese are the best, then other regional Chinese are the lower or middle class. All other Asians should rightfully be their slaves. Japanese and Koreans are civilized but also enemies, whom they have a mutual respect for. White people are barbarians. Indians are smelly and vile and completely untrustworthy. Black people are the lowest of the low and aren’t even human. However money will completely change the way Chinese people will appear to them if you have a lot of it. Very bad to lose “face” and very good to make money!
THESE ARE NOT MY VIEWS! it is a generalization of what most mainland Chinese people think of other races and nationalities. There are many Chinese people who do not have this view, but they are most definitely in the minority….
16 Apr 2012, 08:25 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-49:
Thats fukn stupid and dont believe it.
I am sure China is just pulling your leg.
Racism is everywhere. NZ has it, OZ is full of it. In fact probably the most luckiest nation to get away with what they have in the past.
But what i dont like is people like fern posting something like racism problems in NZ, yet SA are still one of the worst countries around for this.
He needs to grow up.
16 Apr 2012, 08:26 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-51:
with all the camera evidence to prove what it was i love the way your media labels it an ‘object’ hahaha
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10799168
rather late on the story too dont you think….as per expected….
we’re not low cheats..big difference…
16 Apr 2012, 08:28 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-34: Thanks Rob. I guess it was bound to happen at some stage (Bekker getting injured). I guess now we’ll see what the squad is made of.
I think it’s not a bad idea to rest Eben if he’s not 100%. He’ll be critical in the weeks after we come home, as we have some tough games coming up.
16 Apr 2012, 08:29 am
Well still alot to do , great win time we got on track , need the win on sat v the Hurricanes …. a 5 point win will put us into 2 nd on the log ( kiwi log) …. now the comp starts to get exciting.
16 Apr 2012, 08:30 am
@capebull(capebull)-48:
With only 5 minutes to go we were still kicking the ball away, we seemed scared to just run the damn thing from within our own half, playing right into Carter’s hands.
But great to see Habana slipping defenders more frequently for a change, I felt from the start that we’d miss Aplon and so it turned out as he is the only one likely to run a kick back and find the gaps as well.
16 Apr 2012, 08:32 am
@stew(stew)-57:
When is McCaw returning, wonder if they’ll keep Carter at 12 again?
16 Apr 2012, 08:32 am
Can someone explain why the Burmbies are in 3 rd place on the log table ????
16 Apr 2012, 08:33 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-55:
Huh?
So we are talking about the can that was thrown?
IT happens as you guys have proven a week before this game.
What i am getting at is your lack taking blame.
You called us ” disgusting, boorish, arrogant beer can throwing trollbits (a cross between a hobbit and a troll) who deserve to be told off for what you are, from time to time.”
As well as yesterday we were scum etc.
If anyone on here has a problem, you are it.
I dont ever go down that road. I have alot more respect for South Africans.
You have little for Kiwis, therefore you have the problem….no one else. Now fix it.
16 Apr 2012, 08:36 am
Looking at the log, the Sharks are sitting quite pretty at the moment.
They have completed their tour, and are only 7 points behind the conference leaders.
The SA conference is going to have a tight finish, I reckon.
16 Apr 2012, 08:37 am
Stew thats the “advantage” of the conference system!!
16 Apr 2012, 08:38 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-61:
wow! how far is your head stuck up your asss…..
you make little to no sense in that post.
16 Apr 2012, 08:38 am
@stew(stew)-60:
Because the SA and Kiwi negotiators bent over for John o Neil when the S15 format was devised.
An Aussie team is always guaranteed a top 3 spot now, as conference leaders, which was not a case when the proper tournament – known as the S14 – was still in place.
16 Apr 2012, 08:39 am
a = the
16 Apr 2012, 08:41 am
Ai tog
16 Apr 2012, 08:42 am
The Stormers were bound to lose a game on tour and losing to the Crusaders is probably better than losing to the Reds. So maybe Allistair should’ve thought about resting some players for the game.
I must admit, I first thought that New Zealand refs were bias but from what I see they are simply not up to standard. It would be a compliment to them to call them bias.
The Stormers need to learn that to win overseas, you need to score tries. I am not sure what Robbie Fleck is teaching the backline but we haven’t seen one set piece move from the backline. Everybody sort of just stands around and hope individual brilliance will charge something. If you want to win overseas, you have score tries and the backline needs to be clever.
16 Apr 2012, 08:42 am
I thought the stormers were always going to lose this one; winning 6 in row at this level will nearly always result in injuries and fatigue (injuries that definitely came to the fore early on in this match.)
Added to the fact that the crusaders were pumped to win in front of a home nz crowd looking to turn around previous loses abroad.
A couple of observations that I’ve been pondering on for a while now.
You can see the crusaders are full of ab’s by the way they play with these two common tactics. Front-foot passes that are either straight or slightly forward; and the way they fall/flop around the opponent’s side of the ruck/maul when tackling making it difficult for the opponent to gain traction over their offside bodies.
They play (one could almost call it cheating intelligently) to gain advantage and more often than not get away with some very close calls. When a team appears to have the upper hand in a match the ref will nearly always call in their favour, creating a R.A.W. (ref assisted win.)
This is not to take away other aspects of their game which is very good; I just wanted to highlight these few points.
South African coaching staff really needs to look hard and close at what these teams are up to and build effective counters to these moves that have been in their style of play for a long time now.
P.S. bulls supporter, not stormers.
16 Apr 2012, 08:43 am
@Dawn(Dawn)-67:
i am sorry dawn but they have to be put in their place from time to time.
16 Apr 2012, 08:44 am
@nicsm(nicsm)-69:
Cheating intelligently? I just call it cheating.
16 Apr 2012, 08:44 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-64:
So what dont you get?
The name calling of late from you about all kiwis suggest you have a problem.
I am on my iphone, you will get those in SA soon, so excuse me if i miss words and letters from time to time.
Now if you dont understand what i am getting at then leave it.
But carrying on with your childish views really makes you a sour little poster.
As said, you have little respect for Kiwis. You have probably never met one.
16 Apr 2012, 08:44 am
The Crusaders weren’t that ruthless. If they were then losing two of the inform locks, playing a hooker as flank, a weakened scrum should mean 50 points to be ruthless. To win by 10 points and outscored 2 tries to 1 is not ruthless.
16 Apr 2012, 08:46 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-70:
You have put no one in there place.
lol thats just stupid.
16 Apr 2012, 08:57 am
I am pondering what the best backline for SA should be. My thinking is:
15.) Frans Steyn
14.) Bryan Habana
13.) Juan de Jongh
12.) Jean de Villiers
11.) Francois Hougaard
10.) Johan Goosen
9.) Fourie du Preez
16 Apr 2012, 08:58 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-54:
I do think china is taking some serious stuff so maybe that explains it…anyway, rather than showing the worst in every country, and like you say we all have a little of it, why not look at the positives…
New Zealand’s recorded crime rate is at its lowest in 15 years, but police say there is more work to be done.
Statistics released today show there were 406,056 offences recorded between January 1, 2011 and December 31, 2011, down 4.8 per cent from the previous year.
The main contributor was Christchurch with a fall of 22 per cent, followed by the Southern District with 13 per cent, Northland with 10.5 per cent, and the Bay of Plenty with 5.6 per cent.
Auckland City and the Waikato were the only two districts that saw an increase with 8.3 per cent and 1.7 per cent respectively.
Care of an old friend and stuff.co.nz…
16 Apr 2012, 09:00 am
I stand by intelligent cheating. If it was just plain old common garden variety cheating they’d be caught out on it more often (by all nationality of ref’s.) It is a tactic they have studied and used for quite some time now, it is effective and is working for them. We as south african’s don’t seem to be subtle enough to use this technique effectively so must come up with counter measures that work for us. A point in case is when the french forwards rucked richie mccaw out from the other side of their ruck/maul, I didn’t see him there again for the rest of the match. I know rucking is illegal but it definitely works, he shot out of there like a scalded cat.
16 Apr 2012, 09:06 am
@RugbyStudent(RugbyStudent)-73: After the hype of the Stormers fans before this game , i can understand that a lesson was needed – and the first try by De Jongh was luck so the score could have been by at least 15 points – the much vaunted Stormers pack was brought down to earth …. yes i am happy with the result !
16 Apr 2012, 09:07 am
@wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-59: Looks like McCaw will be back in training this week – the most intelligent cheating player on earth ! MCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCAWWWWWWWWWWWW
16 Apr 2012, 09:08 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-76:
Nice mate
16 Apr 2012, 09:16 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-80:
Aaargh Hurricane, go fck a sheep… Why don’t you go back and comment on your thesilverfern website. Your comments mean fckall to us.
Do you expect us to bow down before you because you said so? Get a life…
16 Apr 2012, 09:21 am
@stew(stew)-78:
If you take into consideration the average age and experience of the Stormers pack the All Black laden Crusaders pack should’ve made mine meat out of them but that didn’t happen even after their two best players left the field. When someone says to me a team was ruthless, I expect it to be a convincing win. That was anything but…and they were on homeground.
16 Apr 2012, 09:22 am
@RugbyStudent(RugbyStudent)-75: You cannot have a back line without Aplon in it plus Habana is past his sell-by date. Mine:
9. Hougaard (allowed to play his natural game and NOT made to play as a FdP clone)- shift to wing in the 2nd half and bring on Duvenhage
10. Lambie (he needs an extended run there- Goosen off the bench)
11. Le Roux
12. Frans Steyn
13. Jaque Fourie (we need the experience)
14. JPP
15. Aplon
OR
9. Hougaard
10. Goosen
11. Aplon
12. Lambie
13. J Fourie
14. JPP
14. F Steyn
Bench: JJ/ Le Roux, Mvovo, JDJ
16 Apr 2012, 09:24 am
@RugbyStudent(RugbyStudent)-82: Agreed but after we threw the game at Loftus we really needed this one to get basck on track
16 Apr 2012, 09:28 am
Or to keep to the quotas: Movovu for Le Roux- I am happy with that.
16 Apr 2012, 09:30 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-76: Christchurch i can understand.Natural disasters have a way of correcting societal imbalances.
16 Apr 2012, 09:37 am
Crusaders got a lucky break with the sinbin of Elstadt.We were building nice momentum at that point ,a point even admitted to by the one-eyed kiwi commentators.To use the words ‘ruthless’ and ‘free lessons’ are pushing it a bit.
16 Apr 2012, 09:42 am
@stew(stew)-84: didnt throw the game, it was the fithy scum saffa ref that caused that loss, along with the out and out fabrication of eye-gouging…
scum..filthy ones
as for the stormers, gifted a try by carter AND scored one off of a blatant knock-on…(barely gets a mention here, must be because it defies the whole cheating ref theory)…
must be horrible for their players seeing so many ghosts on the field, how do these “Africa’s not for sissies” players manage it when the tokoloshe is obviously out to get them?
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-87: and the stormers didnt with the first half yellow card the Saders were pinged for? both cases were a penalty at best…
16 Apr 2012, 09:45 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-72:
yes but you do too little to be respected.
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-74:
stearing the conversation away from the topic and its deplorable facts nicely hey….
keep it up, kiwi…
16 Apr 2012, 09:57 am
Let’s not be negative…
Stormers are looking good… pity about Bekker.
16 Apr 2012, 09:57 am
@pakslae(pakslae)-81:
Your a real piece of work.
Where did i say bow down to me. Show me where?
As for your sheep comments, these show the little intellect you have.
Dont bother replying to me until you learnt to drive and have been taught to fold your own pyjamas youngster.
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-89:
Look here, i am not even talking about the can throwing episode.
Thats like last week, a week after the can was thrown at a kiwi in SA.
All i am on about is your hate towards all Kiwis, trying to understand why you think all Kiwis are scum.
Can you at least answer that?
16 Apr 2012, 10:06 am
stew
I personally wouldn’t be proud of a player that cheats no matter whether he’s someone I supported and admired or not (it’s embarrassing to watch and difficult to justify) but that’s your call.
16 Apr 2012, 10:08 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-88: Fair enough,but i am only referring to the fact that the Stormers started to gain momentum just before that sinbin.Read ‘lucky break’ in the context of that statement.Don’t use it as a starting point to start an unnecessary brawl on here.
16 Apr 2012, 10:08 am
@nicsm(nicsm)-92: you mean like this?
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2009/07/02/1225745/081620-irb-vow-to-qipe-out-eye-gouging.jpg
16 Apr 2012, 10:14 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-88:
hey douche bag – let’s not also mention the “hands in the ruck” that let to the Sader’s first (& only try)…
16 Apr 2012, 10:17 am
Nothing changes I see, the same old same old.
McCaw is still a cheat, NZ refs are cheats.
Yawn
16 Apr 2012, 10:17 am
funny how the Stormers were the only team being penalized for being off-sides but I counted many occasions where the Saders were off sides + when they fell on the wrong side of the ruck + went off their feet at ruck time and were not penalized.
I’m not saying the ref cheated – I’m just saying that he was poor. IMO the ref (Pyper) in the Bulls v Saders game cheated and gifted the Bulls the win. given a neutral ref in that game and the Saders would have won easily.
16 Apr 2012, 10:24 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-97:
I thought the Bulls could easily have won by a way bigger margin, the two late tries made the score look way better than the Saders were on the day…
16 Apr 2012, 10:26 am
I haven’t looked at your link but I’ll say exactly like that.
Here’s another sa example, bakkies headbutting jimmy cowan.
Cheating is not justifiable wherever and from whatever standpoint.
It leads to a denigration of the game as a whole which starts a moral unravelling process that just begets further justification to cheat in whatever form.
16 Apr 2012, 10:28 am
@brains_trust(brains_trust)-97:
Come on, the way you lather it up, it makes it sound as if the stormers were robbed blind.
The count was 10-8 against the Stormers. Hardly a one sided or even outrageous count against the Stormers.
I have watched matches where one side has received 18 penalties on their own.
16 Apr 2012, 10:35 am
I will say this, NZ ref’s appear to be too timid to stand up and make a decision based on what they have seen directly in front of them.
How an assistant ref 25 metres away can make calls that the on field ref should be able to see so much clearer is beyond me.
Time has come where technology should allow the on field ref to whistle up a review by the TMO where their is conflicting thoughts running through the mains refs brain.
And so what if it adds 5 minutes more to the game, or even 10 minutes.
16 Apr 2012, 10:38 am
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-49:
the sad thing in all of this is that our buddy in China is too scared to take his chinese bride back to new zealand for fear of racial abuse.
he needs to take some time for introspection.
his new nickname doesn’t seem to be helping him in his constant quest for validation on a south african blog..
16 Apr 2012, 10:41 am
Is De Jong and Habana trying out for ‘So you think you can dance’
WTF is up with the funky sh it after a score? They look pathetic.
16 Apr 2012, 10:42 am
Anyway I thought the Crusaders were much better on Saturday.
They will be a force at the business end as usual.
That Fruean has had a quiet season so far, but he is going to be a monster.
That one tackle put Liebenberg in his ****.
16 Apr 2012, 10:43 am
@Brads(Brads)-101:
yeah brads… with you on this…
as much as we’d all like the game to flow… we’re reaching the point where we must do what it takes to ensure the correct calls are made… even if it does mean taking more time…
sure it may detract from the spectacle… but incompetent reffing – from all countries and in all games for and against all sides – is ruining rugby quicker than a lamppost ruining a speeding drunk driver’s car… and is just as unpleasant to watch…
16 Apr 2012, 10:46 am
@102.Sadly that is the gospel truth.I know a kiwi who met a chinese girl in oz and won’t go back to nz for the same reason.
Wow hurricane has a new iphone,huge fkin bellywobble.
16 Apr 2012, 10:46 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-103: Maybe you should try it once in a while… to lighten up.
16 Apr 2012, 10:48 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-103:
Dis die papsak tango…
16 Apr 2012, 10:49 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-107: Nee fok ou maat die goed lyk soos hippies gone wrong!!
16 Apr 2012, 10:50 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-106: Stop behaving like a complete tool on this blog.
16 Apr 2012, 10:50 am
@Blouste(Blouste)-108: Hehehehe. Suurwyn serenade…
16 Apr 2012, 10:52 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-103: Its a dig at Digby!
16 Apr 2012, 10:55 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-112: At least Digby does’nt look like he’s at a new years party at about 2:30AM
16 Apr 2012, 10:58 am
A historical and probably irrelevant pick-me-up for depressed Stormers everywhere:
On this day in 2004 (at around this time actually) the Stormers hammer the defending champion Auckland Blues 51-23 at Eden Park in one of their remarkable Playstation-like performances against Kiwi teams. De Wet Barry, in his best ever season as a pro, plants Doug Howlett on his arse, Tonderai Chavanga makes the best winger in the world Joe Rokocoko look slow and Hendrik Gerber puts smiles on faces in Canterbury and Australia as he levels Carlos Spencer in a borderline brutal tackle.
Significantly, these three victims had tortured all South African teams the previous year, almost toying with them in truth, culminating in memorable 52-12 and 29-9 humiliations of the Boks. This result, coming at a time when our rugby is at a crossroads on the back of four seasons of mediocrity underlined by the Staaldraad debacle, appears to be a turning point as half this Stormers team forms the core of the Trinations-winning team of 2004.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUIqSkk9kI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoHoBfDZGU
In typical 90s-early 00s Stormer fashion, the table-topping Mountain Goats (coined that year) deliver dogsh*t as they crash to the Chiefs the next week and then lose to a Crusaders side that plays for 60 minutes with 14 men.
Oh, to be a Stormer.
16 Apr 2012, 10:58 am
i dig our kiwi brothers and sisters.
loads.
but rugby is their blindspot and if we have to hold up the light to make them see that their practices (read:cheating/condoning of cheating) are being watched then so be it.
paddy is long gone so they shouldnt expect any more apologies.
p.s. the finger in the eye jingoism they displayed by making bryce lawrence kiwi ref of the year after his disgraceful showing in the wc 1/4 will neither be forgotten nor forgiven until we receive an apology from the nzru and paddy.
other than that, have a great day under the cloud kiwis!
16 Apr 2012, 10:59 am
kwagga…
the white boys would dance too if they had any rhythm…
or do you just prefer meisiekind’s screaming air punches..?
i quite enjoy the dance celebrations… the islanders are quite good…!!
16 Apr 2012, 11:00 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-113: lol
16 Apr 2012, 11:02 am
@ufo(ufo)-105:
Absolutely.
It is a disgrace to the game that a ref’s call can be displayed on the big screen at the venue for all to see as being wrong and he has no opportunity to reverse the decision.
Rightly or wrongly, I suspect that that has injected a streak of yellow up the spines of some refs in not making decisions unless the offence is certifiable, and if his side buddy line gives an opinion, he jumps on it.
16 Apr 2012, 11:02 am
bryan doesnt have much rythm.
must be the white genes.
he looked like a puppet with a fat upper torso and no legs to speak of being controlled by a crack freebasing puppeteer on day three of rehab.
16 Apr 2012, 11:03 am
@BishopsOD(BishopsOD)-114: Who said that we are depressed,but,thanks in any case for the uplifting article.
16 Apr 2012, 11:05 am
@ufo(ufo)-116: Difficult to dance wearing pink and high heel shoes.
16 Apr 2012, 11:06 am
@ufo(ufo)-116: See post 113. Much rather see one quick air punch than two of our more senior players swinging like the local dronkgat at the pub.
The islanders makes this look a whole lot better. Compairing the two is like compairing Rambo to Dr. Dolittle.
16 Apr 2012, 11:06 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-119:
apparently Simon Cowell is looking for his number>
16 Apr 2012, 11:07 am
its nice to have poppa back, hopefully we can all treat him with the respect he deserves as a guest in our virtupub.
then again, if he k u k s on the carpet and tries to steal the silverware again we will have to send him tot he naughty corner again.
16 Apr 2012, 11:09 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-123: for the latest season of X(tasy) factor?
16 Apr 2012, 11:09 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-119: Now THATS kak funny!!!!!
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-121: More than 3/4 of Cape Town seems to be getting it right…..
16 Apr 2012, 11:09 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-115:
you know ranger… i accept that refs makes mistakes… (far too many for comfort) against both sides…
i don’t think they’re deliberately dishonest… only obliviously incompetent…
but what really irritated me on saturday… and i can only imagine the fuss that would’ve been made if it was a south african captain doing so in front of his home crowd…
was reid… geeing up the christchurch crowd to dissent and make a noise to influence the ref prior to elstadt being sent off…
he looked like a triple-jumper at the world champs before setting off on his run…
i find it disappointing in the extreme that rugby has descended to this sort of showmanship/bad-sportsmanship…
and even more disappointing that the the incident has been completely ignored by the the authorities and media…
we can all imagine what would happen if schalk did the same at newlands…
16 Apr 2012, 11:11 am
@ufo(ufo)-116:
You tell that to Peter (the Robot) Crouch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96eSrFlUVh0
16 Apr 2012, 11:11 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-124:
poops is starting to remind me of freddy kruger.
maybe he has some afrikaanser in him?
@ufo(ufo)-116:
screaming air punches?
ahem.
no boet.
16 Apr 2012, 11:13 am
@Brads(Brads)-118:
yeah brads.. agree with everything you say…
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-121:
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-122:
i’m not fussed by it at all…
i think rugby has got far more serious challenges ruining it as a spectacle than post-try celebrations… which actually add the the spectacle imo…
16 Apr 2012, 11:14 am
@ufo(ufo)-127: reid is a horrible character.
his “ahma eat me some apple pie later” image he likes to project makes me think he is schitzophrenic.
how long before it all unravels.
clue: poppa started off eating the pie and ended up trying to hump it before serving it as afters.
16 Apr 2012, 11:14 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-122: I sat in that corner at Newlands when meisiekind went in to an induced labour.Doing the Digby is a far more dignified than hearing and seeing an air-punching and creaming chick giving birth.
16 Apr 2012, 11:15 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-132: screaming
16 Apr 2012, 11:15 am
@ufo(ufo)-127:
I watched the game, and don’t recall the incident.
Perhaps I was refreshing my beer in the break.
But you are right, do we want that sort of behaviour – No.
Is it illegal – no.
How do you stop it,……. more of what you have done. Piss and moan and make it an issue!
16 Apr 2012, 11:15 am
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-91:
still stearing the conversation away from what you dont like to what you do like….always deflecting…always projecting…
you’re being no different to cane and china.
16 Apr 2012, 11:16 am
I think Allistar said in his pre match speech they need to come out swinging……
16 Apr 2012, 11:16 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-129:
hehehe…
ahem… ja boet…
you call them… meisie does them…
watch his post-try reactions at newlands… fist in the air… face contorted in a scream…
don’t blame me… tweet him and object…
16 Apr 2012, 11:17 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-88: Thought you fcked off to the looney bin… For some remedial reading lessons and IQ massage, yeah?
What’d they do – just give up on you, bro?
Sling us a coconut when you get the chance won’t you?
Try not blubber, sniffle and wail when things get a bit rough for you again on this site, okay…?
No room for Pat Lam crybabies here… Africa and hence Keo is not for sissies… by extension cheeky little Piri Pir Maoris too… Got that?
16 Apr 2012, 11:17 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-129: uh oh………s h it s gonna get real round here.
i think poppa missed his calling personally.
with all that time on his hands he should become a private d i c k, trolling the internet for sordid facts to set the world right and put enemies of the state to shame.
dount hollywood will come knocking anytime soon
16 Apr 2012, 11:17 am
Gotta run. Have a good one guys and keep them hips loose!!
16 Apr 2012, 11:18 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-133:
freudian slip…
16 Apr 2012, 11:22 am
@Brads(Brads)-134:
yip… that’s the thing…
because there’s no specific law saying it is illegal…
but there are things that speak about the spirit of the game and the sportsmanship and bringing the game into disrepute…
so what will be said when other teams follow reid’s example and gee their crowds up when they don’t like the ref’s calls…??
a sad precedent has been set…
16 Apr 2012, 11:22 am
@KWAGGA ROBERTSE(KWAGGA ROBERTSE)-140: cheers bud!
16 Apr 2012, 11:23 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-131:
He may piss you off, but he works for me.
I didn’t witness the rev up of the crowd he is said to have done, but okay, that was not necessary.
That said, he will be the next AB Captain. but do not assume he will behave like that EVER wearing the silver fern… Captain or not.
The AB’s are all about image and sponsorship. No way in Hades would **** like that be performed.
16 Apr 2012, 11:24 am
@Brads(Brads)-134:
it shouldn’t be up to the public to make an issue of it…
sanzar/irb should be proactive about it…
same as the brass band making weird ‘down the pipe’ notes when grant and pietersen were kicking…
i hate booing… but that’s much harder to stop… the band being obnoxious should be very easy to stop…
16 Apr 2012, 11:26 am
@ufo(ufo)-141:……NO!.I would never accuse any Bulls player of creaming meisiekind.
16 Apr 2012, 11:26 am
I see the Cape Town stadium roof is coming loose!! So much for newly built better stadiums!! RL always said Kings Park was a deathtrap!! Bla bla bla
16 Apr 2012, 11:28 am
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-147:
eagles must’ve blown the roof off…
great concert…!!
16 Apr 2012, 11:28 am
@ufo(ufo)-142:
From what I saw,
Kieran Read was not facing the Stand when he motioned with his arms. He was facing infield, away from the sideline.
Perhaps you are mistaken.
16 Apr 2012, 11:31 am
@THE MAULER(THE MAULER)-147: Nothing to get excited about Mauler…..our efficient DA government will sort it out quickly.
16 Apr 2012, 11:33 am
Andrew Mehrtens once gave the Loftus crowd the double handed jolly roger after dropping a goal to score the wiing points while playing for the Crusaders.
The Cantab fans lapped it up by and large.
Weird folk live in Christchurch!
16 Apr 2012, 11:34 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-135:
……………………………….(concerning Popps).
“you’re being no different to cane and china”
Exactly, Popps don’t like whining posters from the Republic of Whingers any more than Old China or Myself.
16 Apr 2012, 11:35 am
@cane(cane)-149:
okay cane… i’m mistaken…
perhaps you could tell us what his gestures was all about… after just having had words with the ref…?
he didn’t have to be facing the crowd… all eyes were on him…
but it’s exactly the gesture that is almost universally used when an athlete or pop star is trying to get a crowd going…
perhaps he was telling his players to pull up their socks…?
16 Apr 2012, 11:35 am
I am going outside to cup my ear to the West.
I’ll be back.
8)
16 Apr 2012, 11:35 am
@c.unt(cane)-152: How does it feel, being so receptive… and open?
16 Apr 2012, 11:36 am
@cane(cane)-149: Yea Cane I didn’t think he was gesturing at the crowd…personally thought he might have been trying to fire his guys up. i can’t see that crowd noise would influence a decision any way.
16 Apr 2012, 11:37 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-150: As long as the refugees are prevented from sneaking in….
16 Apr 2012, 11:38 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-131:
Reid is a hero of Poopsies.
I reckon they have chowed from the same pie more than once.
More concern should be the brass band that started up behind peter grant when he was lining up that final penalty.
And that was only for a losong bonus point.
God alone knows what the Hobbitsers would have pulled had it been for the win.
Fireworks?
A fly-by from the New Zealand Airforce.
A flash haka behind the posts?
16 Apr 2012, 11:38 am
@ufo(ufo)-127: It was disgusting I agree! Its one of the reasons I refuse to watch soccer nowdays because of all the diving and winging I sincerely hope that rugby does not degenerate to that!
16 Apr 2012, 11:39 am
@Brads(Brads)-151:
Merts had to pay several thousand dollars for the privilege, if I recall correctly.
16 Apr 2012, 11:40 am
Yip,
still a low whine on the wind coming over the Pole.
16 Apr 2012, 11:41 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-158: “flash haka” :lol
that is hilarious.
and the kiwis reckon that makes them look tough i suppose.
imo its a bit like a bunch of hippies wearing tie die and prancing around to a joan baez song in the middle of gateway.
it is evidence of a certain lack of perspective.
16 Apr 2012, 11:41 am
@ufo(ufo)-153:
he looked like an Orc trying to take off in a strong headwind.
16 Apr 2012, 11:41 am
@cane(cane)-152:
thats the spirit cane, show us you’re as filthy and classless as your rugby players…
16 Apr 2012, 11:42 am
i hope we never emulate the disgusting behaviour of the kiwis.
sportsmanship? they dont even understand the meaning of the word.
their crowd and bandofknobs behaved like roundball yobs, nothing new.
16 Apr 2012, 11:43 am
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-159:
yeah… i don’t watch soccer now too for exactly the same reason… even though liverpool has finally made the fa cup final again…
and sadly… i believe rugby is going down the same slippery path…
rugby used to be hard… even brutal… but ‘fair’… this insidious ‘sportsmanship’ creeping into the game should be addressed sooner rather than later imo….
16 Apr 2012, 11:43 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-155:
Liberating Pigsy,
liberating.
The truth never hurt anyone.
16 Apr 2012, 11:43 am
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-157: Dit is somtyds nodig om die koring van die kaf te skei.
16 Apr 2012, 11:44 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-163:
he does look orcish
16 Apr 2012, 11:44 am
UFO I missed them… Sad about it…
16 Apr 2012, 11:44 am
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-163:
hehehe…
he did too…
16 Apr 2012, 11:45 am
i mean seriously, a can thrown at burden as he scores and then a kiwi band trying to put a kicker off?
all in one weekend?
must be the superrugby title drought.
things fall apart.
16 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-165: I agree with you on that point.Hopefully Shark supporters will lay off the whiskey and leave Frans Steyn in peace on his second coming.
16 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
@pakslae(pakslae)-81: Not cool , Cane is a friend here at Keo and I for one enjoy his views on Rugby !
Re the game , Stormers were good Saders were better. End of story. Some negatives include – We still kick way to much ball away , our halfbacks are sadly not up to the level required. Our loosies are still unbalanced and lack pace. Our backline play contunie to improve but we wayyyy off the pace. Injuries to our locks which we ALL knew was gonna happen as they play too much rugby and especially considering the way we play as we make probbaly twice as many tackles as everyone else. Refs in general are just poor and soon it will influence results more. I dont think he was bias , just k@k poor. Both yellows were riculous.
Some positives , our young props again showed mettle , I do remember one scrum that was not good for them but I think we were down a man then. Habana continue to show a big fat up yours to all his haters. Hurdles aint nogals a bad winger. I take back what I said about De Kock , he is a capable lock. Peter Grant maybe not the best option as general but his goal kicking remains great. He has great nerve. We showed that maybe if we try a little harder and play more positive that we can chase a game and lastly 100% concentration throughout the game where previously we faltered round about the 50th min mark.
All in all , a great game , little mistakes and it felt like a test match unlike the Lions/Bulls game which was very dissapointing from a skills level perspective. There was sooo much mistakes in that game and the Lions simply are not good enough at this stage. Steyns kicking is also a worry. Back to the Stormers game though , the pace and precision of the Saders were awesome , they play a very similar game to how the Bulls played when they want to and how the Stormers want to play. The diffs is halfbacks , their general is far ahead of the pack. Anyone who says they dont need to look at the stats , at halftime the kicking stats were like 31/32 for the teams. Saders kick just as much as we did except much more intelligent.
My 26 cents anyway
16 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
@Atreides(Atreides)-156:
Suppose we never know Atreides.
8)
16 Apr 2012, 11:48 am
to be fair reid is ten times the 8thman that duanne vermeulen is.
for one thing, he is able to fall back like a real 8thman and field kicks unlike carthorse duanne.
and he can like to catch a ball unlike spoes the ploes.
but willem will make him cry like a girl.
16 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
@sparticus(sparticus)-174:
Ooooh, I missed that one,
I better go back and read the fan mail.
16 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-169:
a word in your shell like Bakkies.
Caner is one of the good Orcs.
Now I know a decent Kiwi is a rare and precious thing.
Which is why we should protect our investment.
16 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-173: well considering the treatment of luke at newlands i would suggest you pullyerheadoutofyerarse.
16 Apr 2012, 11:51 am
so cane… c’mon…?
you obviously saw ‘the reid dance’ (although not as cool as the south african ‘reed dance’…)
tell us what you think he was doing…?
16 Apr 2012, 11:52 am
agreed with all the above, cane is a champion.
not a very gifted assasin though judging by the fact that the keo dwarfs are still posting after caners unsolicited gift during the wc.
(
16 Apr 2012, 11:53 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-179: We always treat our players with dignity and respect they deserve.Luke was a favourite on the terraces.
16 Apr 2012, 11:53 am
The fan mail was for Hurricane.
8)
Thank goodness, to have pakslea and Bakkies on my case would too much.
Dumb and Dumber.
16 Apr 2012, 11:54 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-181:
Caner drank the wrong bottle.
He has never been more than 3 feet away from the ******* ever since.
16 Apr 2012, 11:54 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-179:
Hi Ranger,
just some other issue… Have you heard of the kiwi called William Trubridge?
Just check this, if you have not seen it before … but watch the whole thing… the viz gets better near the end.
Farkin amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrXQbucZUDA
16 Apr 2012, 11:57 am
@Robzim(Robzim)-185:
hey rob… another tangent while you’re here…
can’t remember who did… but saw a post sometime on the weekend that tim swiel has been signed by wp to play for the vc cup side…?
good news…
16 Apr 2012, 11:57 am
@rangerman(rangerman)-176:
Vermeulen was massive on Saturday. Totally outplayed Reid, kiwis and saffa commentators agreed. The strength of the man is incredible.
On current form far better than Alberts or Spies.
16 Apr 2012, 11:59 am
@ufo(ufo)-180:
As Atreides pointed out, he could have been trying to “lift” the effort of the Stormslayers. Using the upward motion with the arms.
I suppose we’ll never know, unless he decides to tell us.
16 Apr 2012, 12:02 pm
@Dazzler(Dazzler)-187: Maybe stronger but sadly also far slower.
16 Apr 2012, 12:03 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-182: k u k man, ther oke was nearlyu booed out of newlands by stormers fans.
just because he said rugby was run by du t ch me n.
surely du tc h me n run a few things in sa like absa and the mines and maybe even rugby?
16 Apr 2012, 12:04 pm
@cane(cane)-188:
jaaaaaaaaaaaaa boet….
16 Apr 2012, 12:06 pm
@Dazzler(Dazzler)-187: sorry bud, carthorse.
didnt see him tracking back at all.
@Robzim(Robzim)-185: will check it thanks. youtube “tuna vortex” and then check the same okes vids. there is one where he freedives for over 4 mins i think.
some okes are incredible seriously.
16 Apr 2012, 12:07 pm
We need to sweep clean before our own doors before trying to force the broom into another’s hands.
.Habana gets abused in Bloemfontein.
2.Percy gets abused at Loftus
3.Whiskey-fuelled Sharks supporters abuse their own player,Steyn
4.Delinquent Bulls fan attacks Mealamu
5.Irish ref gets attacked at Kingspark
Interesting to note where all these incidents took place.As the saying goes,you can’t buy class and rugby heritage.
16 Apr 2012, 12:07 pm
@ufo(ufo)-186:
That’s very good news- i saw him in action during a warm up game against the amateur side in the beginning of the season- huge potential at no 10 and 15- the sooner the better.
I see the vodacom side is also scraping through game after game- still undefeated mainly due to the boot of karlkakillis.
Interesting to see that Boland beat the Sharks in Malmesbury- i read in the newspaper they had a crowd of 7000 watching the curtain raiser between two club teams but the overwhelming majority left before the main game started. Strange times?
16 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-178:
yes, i do know he’s a special project and is worth saving. its just his ****** responses wrt the can throwing incident really pissed me off…after all that he had to say about kevvy getting bottled and after all that the bulls did to right the wrong…
at the end of the day he’s still a keewee.
16 Apr 2012, 12:10 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-193: cute.
but luke was abused, we all saw it, at newlands.
and the ref getting attacked was by a huge beer swilling bulls fan.
16 Apr 2012, 12:10 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-178:
Too be fair Gunna,
I did piss a few people off on Saturday.
(But only after I had read 250 posts of Ref Whining).
Bakkies has my respect. He will eventually sobber up.
And…………………………….. I thank you, (and Dangerman), for your kind, if somewhat misguided words.
16 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm
look with Wakefield president WP & Stormers rugby will fall hard! they will go the same route as EP did 15 years ago! so if Stormers don’t win the Super Title this year, they never will.
16 Apr 2012, 12:13 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-195:
smiley face
16 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-194:
yeah… knew you’d like that…
i just hope he’s more robust than gary van aswegen has (sadly) proved to be…
that is a bit strange… great to see the support for local clubs… but you’d think they may as well have stayed for the main game too…
16 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
@ufo(ufo)-191:
I’m not saying you are wrong ufo. You are probably right, who knows.
Just that he turned infield, and put his back to the Stand before motioning.
16 Apr 2012, 12:16 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-195:
Caner is very clever for a kiwi, and sometimes that means he will get under our skin.
But we shouldn’t hold that against him.
@rangerman(rangerman)-196:
he is in denial.
the baying at newlands against the bulls was bestial.
I am going to start sellliong tik outside the ground.
Everybody else seems to be doing it.
16 Apr 2012, 12:17 pm
@cane(cane)-201:
cool man…
much to my surprise the sun in fact did come up this morning…!!
16 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-199:
You can take that smilie face of yours and shove it.
16 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
@Dazzler(Dazzler)-187: Fatty Vermeulen better than Alberts or Spies…. You’re p.issed as a coot man!
16 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
why are we all surprised about the racial abuse in auckland and sharks players being thrown with bottles? i mean just look at the average Blues rugby player and supporter, they look like the people in “the wrong turn” ffs, if i’d to play there i’d arrive 5 mins before kick off and leave when the final whistle blows.
16 Apr 2012, 12:24 pm
@ufo(ufo)-203:
Stormers should be very happy with their Tour so far.
I just put in my picks, with Stormers to slaughter the Reds by 13 or more.
16 Apr 2012, 12:29 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-202:
yes you’re right.
i suppose, because i like him, i sometimes try too hard to get the kiwiness right out of him.
its just he has so much potential to be somebody…worthwhile…
i tried with pops even though i knew he was lost and with cane i can see there is something there…something worth fighting to reach inside..
its like those inspirational hollywood movies about gangbanger youths in american schools and how a/the teacher puts themself on the line to break through to an otherwise capable, wholly competent and possibly gifted individual held back by the unfortunate circumstance of being born into the wrong neighbourhood/culture……
i must reach this kid….
16 Apr 2012, 12:29 pm
@grant10(grant100)-206:
All I saw were Ex Saffas filling the Eben Park bleachers, from what I read the current Blues are no draw card in Auckland anymore?
16 Apr 2012, 12:31 pm
@cane(cane)-201:
indeed.
he was urging his feloow orks to use their powers of telepathy to ensure Grant missed.
either that or he was conducting the brass band that had started up behind the kicker.
and they say kiwis have no culture.
i found it to be a wonderfully post-modern interpretation.
I especially like the feedback through the speakers.
16 Apr 2012, 12:32 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-209: Surely not!!
16 Apr 2012, 12:32 pm
@cane(cane)-204:
ja dankie, ek’s lief vir jou ook, cane
16 Apr 2012, 12:33 pm
@cane(cane)-207:
losses don’t sit comfy… coming second sucks… even to the crusaders…
i hope the stormers are very UNHAPPY with the tour so far… any time they are happy with losing they will continue to… i hope they feel they have a point to prove against the reds to make up up for this loss…
but cheers… thanks for the positive words…!!
should be interesting…
16 Apr 2012, 12:35 pm
translation:
yes thanks, i love you too, cane.
16 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-205:
I’m afraid we can’t take someone who calls himself Dazzler seriously.
Even if he speaks like Guy Ritchie.
16 Apr 2012, 12:37 pm
JC Quote
” The Crusaders have a knack of winning games they shouldn’t, it’s become something of a trademark”
So he believes the Saders should not have won against the Stormers?
hehehe
Last team i would bet against is the Saders, they can pull anything out at anytime.
16 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm
@cane(cane)-207: We will never be happy with defeats.If it was to be the case, i might as well start supporting the Lions….or the Sharks.
16 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm
@grant10(grant100)-206:
frow him wif a bottle?
you is not lekker.
16 Apr 2012, 12:41 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-215: Hmmmmmm………just look up and see your own nick there for a second.
16 Apr 2012, 12:42 pm
I am sure by now all the keewees on here who actually live in nz has retired to their damp,cold and mouldy bedrooms to get some sleep.
I have read their comments and tomorrow morning I will be “returning serve”.
16 Apr 2012, 12:42 pm
Not many teams win in Canterbury.
Just like many teams struggle to win at Loftus or Newlands.
Stormers got a point out of the game, at least.
16 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm
The Stormers might have a fair chance against the Reds who have no fly half of note.
But then, they were gifted many games at home by SA referees and it won’t happened again this weekend
16 Apr 2012, 12:44 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-215: A fan called “Dazzler” supporting the Brokeback Breezers…. I would say appropriate
16 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-217:
“”"……………………….. i might as well start supporting the Lions….or the Sharks”"
You can have a lot of fun,
without being stupid now stormer.
8)
16 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
I didn’t bother to watch the game but skimming through the comments the desperation of the NZ muppets like Cane amuse me. C’mon Cane, man up. All NZ has is its rugby (now that the beekeeper has snuffed it) so it’s quite understandable that PoB should give out whistle to orders instructions the the refs. Can’t have ongoing mass suicide if NZ wugby goes downhill.
16 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-220:
Somehow that does not scare me at all.
16 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
maybe merge Blues & the canes to make way for the Kings ….
better still :
Merge : Force & Rebels – replace them with the Kings
Merge : Canes & Blues – replace them with Tukkies
16 Apr 2012, 12:47 pm
@cane(cane)-224:
Had a re-think about that and would rather stay out of murky waters.
16 Apr 2012, 12:49 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-226:
Was said matter of factly,not meant to scare or intimidate.
Ar you still in nz or part of the keewees that fled over the ditch?
16 Apr 2012, 12:50 pm
at a Blues Super Rugby game there are 360 people …. and at the Canes games there are about 1023 on average …. so much for rugby being a religion in NZ … pffft !
16 Apr 2012, 12:50 pm
@husky(husky)-225:
Paddy has served his Country well.
As has Brycie.
Paddy will ensure NZ win Gold at the Olympics in Rio.
The GOLD is now the #1 priority.
16 Apr 2012, 12:50 pm
who is RUTH…??
and why wasn’t he playing for the crusaders on saturday…?
and if he was… would he have insisted the stormers pay for the lesson…?
#justasking
16 Apr 2012, 12:51 pm
further to my statements earlier, i quite enjoy poops and hurricane and even greentea aka the” nz who likes a bit of china”.
great guys all.
just blinded by parochial island life.
i will help them escape this malaise.
p.s. i even enjoyed blackpanty though he refused to talk to me after i handed him his a r se in so many debates.
16 Apr 2012, 12:52 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-219:
saw it thanks.
as you were
16 Apr 2012, 12:53 pm
@grant10(grantie)-230:
Still kick the craap out of your lot,
more often than not Grantie.
Your lot with 3 times the players we have.
16 Apr 2012, 12:54 pm
South African state company Transnet has signed a R1.8-billion deal to buy the old Durban International Airport, which will be turned into a multibillion-rand dug-out port that will boost the country’s competitive edge while creating thousands of new jobs.
KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize on Friday welcomed the signing of a deal between Transnet and Airports Company South Africa (Acsa) for the purchase of the old Durban International Airport.
Mkhize said the new dug-out port, expected to be ready by 2019, would give South Africa and KwaZulu-Natal a major competitive edge, offering the country and the province considerable investment spin-offs and opportunities. “We have Durban as the busiest port on the continent and Richards Bay managing the biggest volumes of cargo in South Africa,” Mkhize said. “With the addition of the dug-out port, we have an important strategic asset.”
Transnet’s transport and freight logistics facilities would also provide an effective platform for forging trade links between provinces, with neighbouring states and with the rest of the world, particularly the Asian and South American sub-continents, Mkhize said.
“The speed in the roll-out of these developments is encouraging,” he said, adding that there were plans for the creation of an automotive component supplier park around the dug-out port. This would enable the province’s automotive industry to double its size over the next decade, and become a leading exporter of vehicles.
The dug-out port, together with the new Dube Trade Port, would greatly expand the capacity of KwaZulu-Natal to import and export goods, Mkhize said. “The principal component of the Dube Trade Port is a new international passenger and cargo airport, but it is the new facility’s proximity to the harbours of Durban and Richards Bay that give it the edge as a transport and logistics hub. Rail and road links up and down the coast to these two major seaports will make it easy to switch cargo between different modes of transport. Large quantities that arrive by sea can be dispersed in disaggregated volumes at speed by air.”
SA – the Good News via BuaNews
16 Apr 2012, 12:54 pm
@cane(cane)-235: i wouldnt say our players are three times that of your players cane.
maybe 2.5?
16 Apr 2012, 12:55 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-229:
Still in Christchurch.
A few kiwis are heading to OZ, like most years. Too many natural disasters here.
How about you, havnt joined the mass exodus from South Africa to OZ or NZ yet?
16 Apr 2012, 12:57 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-237: It cannot be with Piri Piri Weepu waddling around the four corners of Eden Park – that makes our biggest and best probably 2/5ths max…
16 Apr 2012, 12:57 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-229:
You mean like the 900,000 that have fled The Republic of Whingers?
We got 30,000 of you Okes on The North Shore of Auckland.
16 Apr 2012, 12:57 pm
@grant10(grant100)-230:
Strange, who has the RWC?
Shitman we dont even watch the game and we win it.
We have a guy that wears makeup, he runs rings around your players, so i heard cos we dont watch rugby in NZ.
16 Apr 2012, 12:58 pm
I see on news24, it was a rubber ball and it missed Burden by 4m …. must have been keven’s father who threw the ball …. like father like son, can’t throw a rugby ball straight …
16 Apr 2012, 12:58 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-222: I reckon that the Reds will be slippery this weekend. But the 10 channel will be wobbly. Just keep the ball away from Strictly come Digby..
16 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
@cane(cane)-240:
Our Cricket Team will be 50% Saffa’s by 2018.
16 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
@husky(husky)-225: Making fun of the Bulls pink outfits is okay ,but bringing suicide references onto a rugby blog is a totally different thing.
16 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-236: saw that, fantastic for durbs.
dube tradeport will force saa kicking and screaming to base in durbs.
plus in durbs, because of its lower altitude, planes can takeoff with full fuel tanks so they can fly direct to the states.
all this as the missus moves onto a jet this month and the garrick prepare to start heading up our coast.
life is good.
16 Apr 2012, 13:00 pm
@cane(cane)-240:
Did you hear the north shore council are working over time, so many complaints lately.
Now can you see a pattern here?
16 Apr 2012, 13:00 pm
Hurricane, yeah and your player of the tournament was taken off the panel by the IRB – you know …. old Bryce
16 Apr 2012, 13:01 pm
@cane(cane)-244:
damn it, we will never win the Cricket world cup now.
16 Apr 2012, 13:01 pm
@cane(cane)-240: you lucky buggers should pay us royalties for the economic injection.
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-239:
16 Apr 2012, 13:01 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-238:
I am ambitious and have a career so nz is a no no.
The housing bubble in Aus is starting to burst but the speculation is that they will have a
soft landing,so also not a option.
I am happy here,got a good job and enjoy my work.
@cane(cane)-240:
More South Africans is returning to SA,this was found after research was done by ACSA.
Your country has a serious brain drain of youngsters going to study overseas and wont
return so you need those expats.
16 Apr 2012, 13:01 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-237:
I do exaggerate Dangerman………………………………………………………sometimes.
16 Apr 2012, 13:02 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-249: haha like you ever had a chance.
16 Apr 2012, 13:03 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-251:
“”………………………….More South Africans is returning to SA,”
This will not doubt improve the IQ of All Nations involved.
16 Apr 2012, 13:03 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-246:
“sa the good news” is n baie kief website.
dis die moeite werd om inteteken vir hulle nuusbrief wat hulle so elke 2 weke e-mail.
16 Apr 2012, 13:03 pm
@grant10(grant100)-248:
yeah i know.
Ref of the year, he did get his gold watch as well.Trying to keep the tradition going.
16 Apr 2012, 13:04 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-253:
lol
I know
16 Apr 2012, 13:04 pm
@cane(cane)-252: me too.
its one of my strong points.
16 Apr 2012, 13:05 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-249: Only when it’s 100% SA in 2026
16 Apr 2012, 13:05 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-236: No mention of your ANC masters deep pockets being filled with gold coins in that report?Not trying to be controversial here ,but KZN nearly on a par with the EC in terms of corruption.
16 Apr 2012, 13:06 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-255: dit klink lekker, ons het almal ‘n bietjie goeie nuus nodig so nou en dan.
16 Apr 2012, 13:08 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-260: no, they left any mention of that out but then again they didnt mention economic backwaters like the cape either
16 Apr 2012, 13:08 pm
yeah Hurricane, you guys haven’t been punished for your RWC cheating sins – expect a earthquake very soon! – same way Saders were punished for their cheating in Super Rugby … the wheel turns
16 Apr 2012, 13:08 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-247:
8)
I think it was likely one of THEM, that tossed the can at Burden.
Probably aiming at the Ref, but WTF, with only one eye they are not so hot at throwing events.
16 Apr 2012, 13:08 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-255: Sat in on a talk from the website creator – Simon Pennington. Really good stuff, maybe a bit one-sided – but a good counterbalance to the normal negativity.
16 Apr 2012, 13:10 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-260:
Sa has it problems,I am not denying it.
I am a DA man,but let me add that the ANC has some good people aswell.
16 Apr 2012, 13:11 pm
@Bismarck Burger(Bismarck Burger)-265:
You need balance,it is good.
I give the keewees on here balance who claim that nz is utopia.
16 Apr 2012, 13:12 pm
@grant10(grant100)-263: not cool buddy, not cool at all.
you need to finesse your banter filter a bit more and sharpish.
16 Apr 2012, 13:14 pm
@cane(cane)-264:
NZ is becoming a retirement village due to youngsters leaving,the expats
are starting to define the culture of nz as kiwi youngsters cannot care.
a old population is not good,ireland has the same problem.
Be thankfull for the immigrants coming to your country,they did make the requirments
to enter…
16 Apr 2012, 13:15 pm
@grant10(grant100)-263:
well i have been through 10000 earth quakes over the last year and a half. Whats another one.
Yep, those saders were taught a lesson, what was it again, 7 time super champs.
Anyway hope nothing happens to yourself, especailly an earthquake, i know, its not nice seeing your kids screaming most nights
16 Apr 2012, 13:15 pm
If SA is supposed to be a powerhouse of international rugby why do they not hold any trophies at any level or age group?
16 Apr 2012, 13:16 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-262: Well,at least i am living in a clean enviroment in my economic backwater unlike the filthy conditions in Durban.My sister-in-law is from Durban and she refuses to go back there.Wonder why?
16 Apr 2012, 13:16 pm
haha, lucky for the stormers the saders didnt charge for the lesson or it couldve looked nasty.
the stormers hopefully dont fall completely to pieces on their tour now.
16 Apr 2012, 13:17 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-270: Leave the idiot alone .
16 Apr 2012, 13:18 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-272:
cape flats clean?
like any big city it al depends where you stay.
next you are going to tell us isipingo and umhlanga are the same i suppose.
16 Apr 2012, 13:19 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-268:
Without Smitty to kick around, Grantie is a little lost.
He is a legend here on Keo, and will be his old self again, soon enough.
16 Apr 2012, 13:20 pm
you have earthquakes we have quotas and “i can’t dance” habana … much worse
16 Apr 2012, 13:24 pm
Grant you are such a huge A hole certain things are not said even in jest.
You crossed a big line there,love to see you squirm your way out of this one.
By the way I am involved with John Smit’s farewell game and they are looking for a few guys to hold the tackle bags,and your name has cropped up ,are you interested.
16 Apr 2012, 13:25 pm
Cane when someone immigrates to nz they become new zealanders.
they are yours now.
16 Apr 2012, 13:26 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-241: All the more proof for the big fix…
16 Apr 2012, 13:26 pm
@mad eye(mad eye)-278:
he has painted himself into a corner now
he is trying to squirm out
i would say people dying and people losing loved ones is worse than quotas in rugby…
16 Apr 2012, 13:26 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-270: eish sorry bud, not cool at all.
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-272: seriously? you want to now getinto a co ck measuring contest because fern posted an article about a dug out port being created in durbs?
shame man, just enjoy your surroundings buddy, you dont need my affirmation to make CT pleasant ok?
16 Apr 2012, 13:27 pm
@greentea(greentea)-271: there’s only one trophy that matters, the CC one..
why, the Lions were crowned champs of SA, I think they won it before this years Super comp… thats how tough it is
can’t wait to see the Kings play next year,…
16 Apr 2012, 13:27 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-273:
Let’s hope so,backup locks should be good enough to man up.Poor sad sharks tho’ are bound to get thrashed in their own back yard by a fired up chiefs team,gonna blame the dew again imo?
16 Apr 2012, 13:28 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-275: Go clean up your city centre first before we venture outside of it.Unlike you an rangerman,there are hundreds of thousands of Durban residents that are not happy with the corruption of your ANC masters and the disgusting state of your inner city.I went their once and vowed never to return.
16 Apr 2012, 13:28 pm
@grant10(grant100)-277:
OH well, obviously you have never been through a quake cos i would personally have Habana anytime.
OK night all, getting a bit late for me.
16 Apr 2012, 13:29 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-269:
Why don’t you stick to a subject you know something about, whatever that might be?
Have you ever given thought to the possibility that New Zealand has an ageing population because of a shift to sustained low fertility and low mortality rates.
You’re simplistic views on issues you clearly know farkall about are quite embarrasing, really.
16 Apr 2012, 13:29 pm
guys its not grant10.
its a nic stealer.
16 Apr 2012, 13:29 pm
@cane(cane)-276: I don’t think this is the same guy.
16 Apr 2012, 13:30 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-280:
Yes it is HG
@rangerman(rangerman)-282:
All good ranger.
Night all
16 Apr 2012, 13:31 pm
@greentea(greentea)-271:
Surely they got something for coming 8= @ the RWC.
A minature Webb Ellis or something.
A bag of peanuts.
A plastic tiki maybe?
16 Apr 2012, 13:31 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-283:
it was serious questions lets hope we get an answer
16 Apr 2012, 13:34 pm
@cane(cane)-291:
he he stop it, Houston has a problem will crack
16 Apr 2012, 13:34 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-287: Thanks Robzim.This guy is an absolute disgrace to come here,on a rugby blog, with this load of ****.He is just a stirrer of note in my opinion.
16 Apr 2012, 13:34 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-285:
I have 2 homes,not one are in DBN.
I am a DA voter.
@Robzim(Robzim)-287:
The exodus of kiwis to aus is a reality.
Salaries are higher in aus than nz,reality.
Weather and lifestyle is better in aus,reality.
16 Apr 2012, 13:35 pm
@greentea(greentea)-292: it was the refs that stopped them
16 Apr 2012, 13:37 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-294:
Ask poppa why he as a kiwi are living in aus
16 Apr 2012, 13:37 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-289: @rangerman(rangerman)-288:
My apologises to the REAL Grant.
I should have known.
16 Apr 2012, 13:38 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-294:
Diff in pay for jobs in aus compared to nz is on avg R80 000 per year…
16 Apr 2012, 13:39 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-297: too many Saffas now live in Auckland, dont want my kids picking up SA language… I want them to sound like they dont have a speech impediment..
16 Apr 2012, 13:39 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-295:
and you have a good job, good work buddy you’re onto something
16 Apr 2012, 13:40 pm
Cheers all,have a good evening/early morning.
16 Apr 2012, 13:40 pm
@poppa69(poppa69)-296:
apparently
16 Apr 2012, 13:40 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-297: I refuse to get suck into your silly games.You are nothing but a self-conceited stirring troll on this blog.I wont be engaging further with you as of this moment.
16 Apr 2012, 13:42 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-304:
you should ask him about his shagging days whilst on tour down under, massive rooter he tells us
16 Apr 2012, 13:48 pm
smelly hobbits come out play…
16 Apr 2012, 13:48 pm
bottling filth…
16 Apr 2012, 13:49 pm
@greentea(greentea)-305:
He shagged some old transvestite he picked up, under the Railway Overbridge at the Paekakariki.
Then wined and dined “her” at the Lawn Bowling Club.
16 Apr 2012, 13:51 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-307:
Look out Bakkies,
if “we” catch you at the bottom of a ruck,…………………………………………you are toast.
16 Apr 2012, 13:52 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-307:
have you had your valium today, keep it together
@cane(cane)-308:
thats sounds on the money
16 Apr 2012, 13:52 pm
@greentea(greentea)-305: I’m sure its not hard taking advantage of any fair Kiwi maidens should their actually be any… But say there were, all the menfolk in hobbit land prefer maidens of a woollen persuasion, so all them Kiwi actual ladies are probably gagging for it….
But there is a lesson for ferny there: The fact that all the Kiwi menfolk prefer a bit of merino says much about the state of them Kiwi island women…
16 Apr 2012, 13:55 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-311:
HG your sheep jokes are really funny but have you got any new material to share with us?
16 Apr 2012, 13:55 pm
Actually considering those apparitions I saw in the crowd in the Blues little caketin I have sympathy for Kiwi men… Fark me, I reckon I would also be into sheep if I had to be forced to inhabit that little pimple of an island blotting the pacific.
16 Apr 2012, 13:57 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-313: “Fark me, I reckon I would also be into sheep”
No man, you would be a sheep then. 8)
16 Apr 2012, 13:57 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-313:
How’s your homeland doing these days, has the great leader passed yet?
16 Apr 2012, 13:59 pm
And to be fair to Fernly, I actually reckon on his visits he was playing one massive game of Hunt the Grunt with farken beer goggles making him half blind and oblivious to the apparitions he might have been defiled by…
I actually reckon on his hunt the grunt tour he probably doubled the molestation stats of sheep island: By being molested himself from North to South by sexcrazed and starved Kiwi chicks…
16 Apr 2012, 14:00 pm
@greentea(greentea)-312: Baa-aa-aah, yeah?
16 Apr 2012, 14:02 pm
@greentea(greentea)-315: My homeland is the great R of SA.
My birthplace however was in a country that no longer exists.
My loyalty is to Africa.
No more
No less.
Yeah?
16 Apr 2012, 14:02 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-316:
What are the “chicks” like in your country?
16 Apr 2012, 14:03 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-318:
You are a Zim them, has Robert passed yet?
16 Apr 2012, 14:04 pm
@cane(cane)-308: Was that you Cane, in your lipstick and dainty high heels… Going Baaaah in the night with your whistful mating call to Fernly…
Alas, I am sure that you might have got the rejection you deserved.
Filthy Old Pervert.
16 Apr 2012, 14:06 pm
@greentea(greentea)-320: Nope. I am as South African as Transformation.
I care about as much for Bob as for dishonest Kiwi Rugby – which probably means all Kiwi Rugby…
16 Apr 2012, 14:06 pm
@greentea(greentea)-319: Not like your Mum, I am sure.
16 Apr 2012, 14:14 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-316:
I drank with 2 hands whilst there.
Gotta take the edge of proper.
16 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-324: lol. I understand your predicament… A world record hunt the grunt attempt must have been hard on the liver.
And that liver must have squirming because Kiwiland is not known for the quality of booze…
But hey anything to put those beer goggles on… Obviously needed.
16 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-322:
you’re a Zim them who supports the Bokke, did you guys ever play rugby?
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-324:
didn’t you hang in Flaxmere with all your other low rent mates
16 Apr 2012, 14:24 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-325:
Die rooi liggie op my lewer het begin flikker.
16 Apr 2012, 14:24 pm
@cane(cane)-309:
16 Apr 2012, 14:25 pm
@greentea(greentea)-326:
I went to a couple of places China.
16 Apr 2012, 14:26 pm
@greentea(greentea)-310:
couldb’t have it more together…just seeing bottling filth for what it is….
16 Apr 2012, 14:29 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-330:
you were all bent out of shape the other day its only rugby mate
16 Apr 2012, 14:30 pm
@greentea(greentea)-326: No, son. I am no “Zim” and never have been. Get with it.
16 Apr 2012, 14:33 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-327: WTF…Kiwi women invading SA? Or just horrific flashbacks…
16 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-332: We should never be ashamed of our roots hg.Whether it’s Zimbabwe or Rhodesia ,should not matter.
16 Apr 2012, 14:37 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-333:
Flashbacks erger as n malaria nagmerrie.
Ag wel ek was jonk en dom,dis maar die lewe daai.
16 Apr 2012, 14:39 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-334: No shame for my roots at all. Haven’t you ever heard that…
“Rhodesians never die…”
16 Apr 2012, 14:41 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-336: Not really,but that’s a good one.
16 Apr 2012, 14:42 pm
@greentea(greentea)-331:
no, bottling scum needs to bew called out for what it is….
certainly not rugby….
but then again, in hobbitville it clearly is…
16 Apr 2012, 14:45 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-335: Yeah must have been a nightmare of note…
Definitely would also shagasheep… Met Kiwi women on different parts of the globe and they all seem to have the same problem…
Never looked in a mirror… or the mirror must be farken lying to them… Because whats real and in actuality is definitely not the same as in their heads…
Severe self-image malfunction
But hey if can be a charity gift that keeps on giving for a while, however short, then you must have made a lot of womenfolk happy in Kiwiland…
16 Apr 2012, 14:49 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-339:
Hulle almal was defnitief welsynsgevalle gewees.
Die kiwis se sense of self entitlement is baie groot.
Meeste is nie juis gepla oor hoe hulle lyk of aantrek nie.
Jy kry of daai 3de jaar kaalvoet kuns student look,of die
“agricultural” look.
Slegte tatoos is ook aan die orde van die dag.
Dalk het ek by die verkeerde plekke uit gehang maar ek het die orals gesien waar ek gegaan het.
16 Apr 2012, 14:50 pm
Keo bloggers fairly in agreement on the Matfield issue.89 percent saying no.
16 Apr 2012, 14:52 pm
@greentea(NZINCHINA)-319:
what are the chicks like in china china?
16 Apr 2012, 14:55 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-336:
isn’t Robert on his death bed?
16 Apr 2012, 15:00 pm
@greentea(greentea)-343: Let me explain nicely to you…
I’ll give you an appropriate analogy….
Think of Bob as Kiwi woman:
- farken not pretty
- generally farken short
- A bit like Gimli but without the beard (in the case of Kiwi women sometimes with a beard too however)
- farken violent
- got no farken idea what the outside world thinks of him/her, so, farken short sighted
See now?
16 Apr 2012, 15:03 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-344: So to actually answer…
No, Bob is not on his death bed… Like a Kiwi woman he will live forever and a day…
Meaning Zim is farked forever and day too as well as you poor sods have to fark sheep too to stay away from fugly and violent Kiwi feminensis
16 Apr 2012, 15:03 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-344:
So you’re a Zim who follows the Bokke, did Zim play rugby when you were there?
16 Apr 2012, 15:06 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-342: Cheap and willing at first, but almost certain to take you to the cleaners in the long run if you are stupid enough to think they are interested in you for any reason other then money. High chance of getting a fantastic BJ, which is nice.
16 Apr 2012, 15:06 pm
@greentea(greentea)-346: Rhodesians and Zimbos can definitely play the game… The best opensider in the world, Pocock demonstrates that this is so.
16 Apr 2012, 15:07 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-215:
Funnily enough it was in England where I got the nickname, and it just kinda stuck.
But back to rugby, Vermeulen has more power in his left nut than Spies wishes he could have in his entire body. And him being slow is a myth. These Saaaaarks fans forget Vermeulen chased down Mvovo and caught him in his socks.
16 Apr 2012, 15:08 pm
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-347:
so how many times did you get taken to the cleaners then?
16 Apr 2012, 15:08 pm
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-347:
ahso.
interesting.
thanks for that input.
GREANTENZINCHINA seems almost absurdly reticent on the topic.
you would think that as a gwailo he would be forthcoming.
16 Apr 2012, 15:09 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-348:
he’s australian
16 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
and i’ll think you’ll find Captain McCaw cleaned him up on one foot the last time they played but he is a fine Australian openside
16 Apr 2012, 15:12 pm
Generally the young expats play the field and screw the women over, old lonely suckers looking for a companion get totally ripped off. I’m still happily single with my bank account intact.
16 Apr 2012, 15:13 pm
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-354:
lonely old sucker.
that sounds like our China.
16 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-355:
whats worse is i think she’s already taken him for his money, which is why he’s resigned to watching reruns of old all black games with a happy face jackie chan lookalike
16 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-347: LOL
16 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
@greentea(greentea)-352: Born in what was Rhodesia.
16 Apr 2012, 15:21 pm
sum dum noodle…
16 Apr 2012, 15:22 pm
Only locks missing from a pretty decent Rhodesian side made up of internationals for other nations:
1. Beast
2. Chris Rogers
3. Garvey/MacDonald/Mujati
4. ?
5. ?
6. Pocock
7. Skinstad/Krige
8. Teichman
9. Gregan
10. Robinson
11. Ngwenya/Watson
12. Van Schoor
13. Marinos/Smith
14. Mordt/Evans
15. Chavanga
16 Apr 2012, 15:26 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-360:
Krige and Gregan are Zambians.
16 Apr 2012, 15:27 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-360: Nice try but Corne and Gregan are both Zambians….
16 Apr 2012, 15:28 pm
@willievz(willievz)-361: Snap!
16 Apr 2012, 15:30 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-362: Then again, it was known as Northern Rhodesia prior to 1964
16 Apr 2012, 15:33 pm
@grant10(grant100)-263: Doos!
16 Apr 2012, 15:34 pm
@willievz(willievz)-361:
@trupisero(trupisero)-362:
northern rhodesia
16 Apr 2012, 15:35 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-364:
indeed.
16 Apr 2012, 15:37 pm
m@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-356:
you dont perhaps mean a lucy lui look alike.
16 Apr 2012, 15:40 pm
@willievz(willievz)-361: @trupisero(trupisero)-362: Key word is Rhodesia as Trupi pointed out…
Northern Rhodesia… Which makes Krige and Gregan Rhodesians too…
16 Apr 2012, 15:40 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-367: Not that HG knew this
16 Apr 2012, 15:42 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-369: Nope, both born after independence so zambians.
Was a separate colony to Rhodesia in any event.
16 Apr 2012, 15:43 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-370: Come now. Keep up…
16 Apr 2012, 15:48 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-371: A separate Colony.. Huh? yet run by the same administration… along with Nyasaland (Malawi)
Bullshit man.
They are Rhodesians because they come from Rhodesia… When those countrys actually worked to a certain extent… better than now anyway….
When Zambia and Zimbabwe were part of Greater Rhodesia, its the best those countries have ever been. Fact.
16 Apr 2012, 16:02 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-368:
for old china..?.. not a fark…
he mentioned the other day he’s got some drunken buddy named wong who organises him counterfeit tapes and who he watches the games with…of course wong doesn’t understand rugby at all so just nods in furious excitement with a happy smile everytime china screams out loud…
if the gwailo’s happy, he’s happy….
“wong! fetcher tsingtao chop, chop! and grab yourself one, mate!”…
(wong’s chinese smiley face)
16 Apr 2012, 16:02 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-373: Fact? Whose fact? Zim has certainly deteriorated over the last 15 years with mad Bob at the helm but Zambia is most certainly very much a different place to what it was in the early 90s, and certainly far better than it was during those times.
Fact.
And democracy actually works in Zambia, unlike Zim.
Fact.
16 Apr 2012, 16:03 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-374: that’s just wong!
16 Apr 2012, 16:04 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-376:
16 Apr 2012, 16:05 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-376:
how can something feel so good and be so wong?
16 Apr 2012, 16:05 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-373:
Why don’t we pick a Southern African XV excluding South Africa, and include the great Jan Ellis
16 Apr 2012, 16:15 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-375: Fact. You are blinded by lily liberal stupidity. Living in cloud cuckoo land of rainbows without any relation to reality.
My team is made up of Rhodesians.
Fact.
Rhodesia was there first.
Fact.
Wake up and smell the roses, man.
My team.
My rules.
16 Apr 2012, 16:17 pm
@willievz(willievz)-379: Ja. Maybe he can fit in at lock…
Or we borrow two Souties like Mark Andrews and Atherton… They can be honourable Rhodesians…
16 Apr 2012, 16:19 pm
“Democracy works in Zambia”. Forgot to chuckle at that one
How does it “work”?
16 Apr 2012, 16:21 pm
Amended Rhodesian Team with two Sharkies as Honourable Rhodesians.
1. Beast
2. Chris Rogers
3. Garvey/MacDonald/Mujati
4. Atherton
5. Andrews
6. Pocock
7. Skinstad/Krige
8. Teichman
9. Gregan
10. Robinson
11. Ngwenya/Watson
12. Van Schoor
13. Marinos/Smith
14. Mordt/Evans
15. Chavanga
Bring it on Mofos… This team will have more imagination than the Boks… and farken more Ballas than the Sheepshaggers or Wobblies
16 Apr 2012, 16:23 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-380: uhm…if your land of rainbows refer to SA, sorry, wrong!
In fact north of the Zambezi.
16 Apr 2012, 16:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-382: hmmm…lets see…fair multi-party elections as a start?
Opposition taking power and incumbents handing over power without resorting to violence or other means to cling onto power?
This is typically found in a working democracy, no?
Shut your toilet until you start speaking sense.
16 Apr 2012, 16:30 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-384: Ja, well then you either mad or a farken crook to be there.
Nothing else “works”. Even democracy. Money too.
Now wake up man.
16 Apr 2012, 16:34 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-386: See final sentence @385.
Outta here.
16 Apr 2012, 16:44 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-387:
Oh, I can’t close my eyes
And make it go away
How long…
How long must we sing this song
How long, how long…
16 Apr 2012, 16:53 pm
@383
Coach Ian Mac.
16 Apr 2012, 17:08 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-373:
Heavens Game when last have you been to Zambia. Im writing from there now. I spend a lot of time here. Yes, it may have been a better administration in the 50/60′s But at whose expense? Zambians are great, albeit not without fault. But let’s not start listing holier than though countries/people/administrations. They do not exist.
Don’t sit there on your high horse and talk k@k about Zambia.
16 Apr 2012, 17:13 pm
PS: Heavens Game, I visit this site to learn more about the game. Do not post comments, because I feel I probably don’t understand it well enough to be a voice here. But as it is, very few people here really understand it. And I only take a few bloggers seriously. A great deal of the time I read it for the chirps here. Classic ones at times. Have been in stitches here.
I grew up in a rugby culture and played for a long time too.
16 Apr 2012, 17:13 pm
Jinne this is becoming a thoroughly unpleasant place to be
16 Apr 2012, 17:20 pm
@mad eye(mad eye)-389: Hellsteeth, there can be only one
Thousand yard stare.
16 Apr 2012, 17:21 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-392:
for my part i apologise dawn, from my heart.
i dont like or mean to be the lowest common denominator but these pesky hobbits have a way of bringing that out of one.
again, sorry.
16 Apr 2012, 17:33 pm
@whistleblower(whistleblower)-390: Relax shamwari… Its called a windup. After some questioning of my indisputable picks for a side representing Greater Rhodesia I then had to explain some Geography nicely. But if its a scrap you sensitive souls want then lets do it.
The fact that there first was a Rhodesia was neither here nor there – my point actually is that some bloody good Rugby players come from Southern Africa outside South Africa. Whether you want to phrase that as some bloody good players come from Zimbabwe, Zambia and Namibia, other than Azania to calm those liberation sensitivities then so be it.
You say “Yes, it may have been a better administration in the 50/60?s But at whose expense”…. and “let’s not start listing holier than though countries/people/administrations”…. Yet you make the point “at whose expense”… Kaunda’s Zambia was a fckup for all Zambians’ expense. It may have improved marginally but this is hardly South Korea we’re talking about which was at the same point of development as a country as Zambia at her independence.
Nevertheless Zambia is far Better than Bob’s Fiefdom to the South. But then again this fiefdom is now probably eclipsed by Afghanistan and probably slightly more dangerous depending on the pallour of your skin and whether you like planting a few seeds or not.
16 Apr 2012, 17:44 pm
@whistleblower(whistleblower)-391: Good man. Contribute more… Have a blast and don’t take it too personally.
I am sure Northern Rhodesians have a farken good sense of humour…
16 Apr 2012, 19:00 pm
Hey whistle, should catch an ale here sometime!
Rhapsody’s?
16 Apr 2012, 20:13 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-395:
Ok Heavens Game, point taken. And yes you right, decent rugby players came from Zim/Zam /South/ North. I have always wondered why they (Zim) didnt just continue in the Curry Cup. Nowadays even Vodacom.
cheers
16 Apr 2012, 20:19 pm
Good idea trupisero. Rhapsody’s around the corner from me. If you read this, go to yesbutno@rocketmail.com I’ll let you have my details from there. I found a dedicated rugby screen at the new Spur Manda Hill. It took me a long time of Lusaka cruising to find it. They only watch soccer at the rugby club
16 Apr 2012, 20:46 pm
well fckme sideways they’re reminiscing about old mother Hubbard’s f’ng fancy dress ball in the old colonial country stall all over again
jeepers f’ng creepers you can try take the colonialist out the colony but you ain’t ever gonna take the colony from out the colonialists memory… for as long as he breathes … no f’ng sirree…
when this dying breed ever gonna die out and vrek … they fck’d this continent up in their avarice and their greed … and now they wanna blow pumpkin seeds in pretty premises of sweet reminiscences
16 Apr 2012, 21:38 pm
The incredibly annoying Windhoek advert that used to freeze my computer has gone.
Whoopee de doo dahh….
Thank heavens for small mercies!
16 Apr 2012, 22:26 pm
Things just got worse for the Stormers. According to Die Beeld, Jean De Villiers is out for 2 months or so!!
16 Apr 2012, 23:02 pm
NZ Zealand teams like the Crusaders constantly think and vary their game plan,find an oppositions weakness and exploit it……….and are quick to adjust any shortcomings in their own game……………the players seem to have better ball handling skills as well……….less knock-ons etc………..rugby can be effective if kept simple……here in SA our teams often don`t vary tactics enough
16 Apr 2012, 23:04 pm
@carol(carol)-401: agree
17 Apr 2012, 00:35 am
Beware of the Saders….
Captain Fantastic a game away, Carter getting in to the groove. Engine room starting to warm up. A game or two away from firing on all cylinders.
Time to step it up. Be afraid, be very afraid!!
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