Stormers stem Red tide
20 Apr 2012
JON CARDINELLI watched the Stormers repel a late Reds rally to record an impressive 23-13 win in Brisbane.
The Stormers continue to deliver in the face of trying circumstances. They went into this game without Schalk Burger, Jean de Villiers or Andries Bekker, and still they managed to play with the composure and resolve needed to topple the best Super Rugby has to offer.
Some will argue that the Stormers should have put this Reds side away by more, as the Queenslanders suffered some serious injuries early in the piece. Coach Ewen McKenzie would have been feeling a sick sense of deja vu as flyhalf Sam Lane and then centre Ben Tapuai left the field inside the first 10 minutes. At that point the Reds were already 10-0 down, and were battling for any sort of momentum.
But to dismiss the Reds’ effort under these circumstances would also detract from the Stormers’ achievement. The Reds fought hard to stay in the game, and as the clock wound down in the second half, the visitors were made to fight just as hard to keep the Reds at arm’s length.
At times the Stormers attacked with confidence and purpose, but it was another fantastic forward effort and titanic defensive display that earned them an important win. The Cape heavies made an impression at the collisions from the first minute, and maintained that intensity throughout. It was at the point of contact where they troubled the Reds, and in many instances created attacking opportunities.
It didn’t matter that the Stormers struggled for territory. The Reds pack battled to build momentum from the scrum and at the collisions, and the Stormers were quick to pounce on a turnover and unleash a backline that was in a mood to counter-attack.
It was a turnover that allowed the Stormers to win a lineout deep in the Reds’ half in the 10th minute. Juan de Jongh crashed it up before Peter Grant attacked the line. Grant then effected a telling offload in the tackle to Gio Aplon, and at 10-0 the visitors had raced to a good lead.
The Reds managed to settle as the half progressed, but showed a lack of discipline in that crucial period just before half-time. A penalty attempt by Ben Lucas dropped short and the Stormers ran it back at a disorganised Reds defence until they were deep in the opposition 22. Some terrific skills allowed the Stormers to keep the ball alive, and from a later phase Grant sniped again, reached for the tryline, and scored.
At 17-3 it appeared to be all over for the shell-shocked Reds. McKenzie had gone into this match with five forwards on his bench and the early injuries to Lane and Tapuai had forced him to field both of his backline reserves. The Reds were hanging on at half-time.
The Stormers showed their composure in the second stanza. It wasn’t a case of defending a 14-point lead, but more a case of understanding that the Reds were battling to trouble their forwards. And as the game continued, the Reds did indeed become more desperate.
The hosts had their chances to narrow the deficit, and turned down a few shots at goal in favour of a crack at the tryline. The decision proved flawed as Rob Simmons lost the ball over the line, and the Stormers defence managed to clear from a subsequent scrum. This was but one of many instances where a Reds venture into Stormers territory culminated in a frustrating turnover.
It was far from a perfect showing from the Stormers, and while their leaders pulled them through they missed Andries Bekker’s management skills at the lineout.
The visitors’ blew a few early opportunities through lineout turnovers in good attacking positions. They also gifted a try to James Horwill in the 63rd minute when replacement hooker Deon Fourie missed his jumper at a set piece five metres from his own tryline.
But the Reds never looked like closing the gap. Their desperation grew as the full-time hooter drew close, and they passed up a shot at goal in favour of another dip at the tryline.
Again it ended in a turnover. They managed to win another penalty which Mike Harris duly slotted, but then they blew any chance of a draw or indeed a losing bonus point when they conceded a three-pointer at the other end of the park.
The Stormers still lack the killer instinct to be considered a real title prospect, but what is clear is that there is a tremendous belief in their playing pattern.
Their defence was the difference on this occasion and takes them to two wins from three tour matches. With only the Force to play, they have a good chance of making that record three from four and stretching their lead at the top of the South African conference.
664 Comments
20 Apr 2012, 10:35 am
Province Dragons
20 Apr 2012, 10:38 am
Come on Stormers, please prove me wrong, but I think you will come up short today
20 Apr 2012, 10:45 am
@willievz(willievz)-2: stormers to prevail.
20 Apr 2012, 10:51 am
JDJ at 12, Stormers guaranteed to get behind the defensive line.
20 Apr 2012, 10:53 am
Hurdles to score 3 tries and leap the goalposts in a single bound
20 Apr 2012, 10:58 am
Damn I don’t have my home comp with me and I forgot the web stream link I normally use. Any help on a web stream again?
20 Apr 2012, 11:02 am
Come on Stormers. Get back to the top of that log! Good luck to all their fans.
20 Apr 2012, 11:08 am
They say freak,
When you’re singled out,
The red, well it filters through.
So lay down, the threat is real,
When his sight goes red again.
Seeing red again,
Seeing red again.
20 Apr 2012, 11:11 am
We all bleed red, all taste rain, all fall down, lose our way,
We all say words we regret, we all cry tears we all bleed red,
Sometimes were strong, sometimes were weak; sometimes were hurt
It cuts deep; we live this life breath to breath; were all the same
We all bleed r-e-e-e-d-d-d
20 Apr 2012, 11:13 am
Ten thousand feet fun-fair
Convinved that I don’t care
It’s safe as houses I swear
I was just sitting musing
The virtues of cruising
When altitude dropping
My ears started popping
One more Reds nightmare
20 Apr 2012, 11:17 am
What are you gonna do?
No way for you to save me.
What are you gonna do?
Everything that you gave me is painted in Reds.
20 Apr 2012, 11:20 am
@Cheetahs27(Cheetahs27)-7: Thank you!
At least there is someone here who hasn’t been at the glue today
20 Apr 2012, 11:22 am
I’m in the mood to hit the streets, that’s what I bloody said
I’m in the mood to hit the streets, and paint the fu.ckers Reds
We’re going to go out nuts tonight, chasing down the browns
We’re going to go down to the pubs, and take this ******* town
So c’mon here we go again, you and I
We’re going to paint this fu.cking town reds
20 Apr 2012, 11:22 am
Congrats Landers that last ruck was a thing of brutal beauty
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOORMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:24 am
One more Reds nightmare…
Pop!
20 Apr 2012, 11:24 am
@Michael(mikeybrass)-6:
I’m watching on vipbox . tv
20 Apr 2012, 11:25 am
@wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-14: Phew. I was worried the Blues would screw up my predictions. 1/1
Come on Stormmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssss jou lekker ding !
20 Apr 2012, 11:27 am
Wish I could watch this game. Keep me posted gents
20 Apr 2012, 11:27 am
@wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-16: Dankie
20 Apr 2012, 11:29 am
@willievz(willievz)-18: Headphones
20 Apr 2012, 11:29 am
The Oz pool is very weak this year. I am afraid that some of the teams would have trouble beating england by more than a few tries.
20 Apr 2012, 11:30 am
go stormers
20 Apr 2012, 11:32 am
kostaz web always worked for me abroad to watch the games…
If the stormers do not beat the reds they can forget any title hopes… Go my boytjies!! Klap those reds silly man!!
Nice game Landers…
20 Apr 2012, 11:32 am
need to dominate upfront and attack the flyhalf and inside center channel
20 Apr 2012, 11:36 am
This is actually a crappy Reds team. As evidenced by their performances to date.
Stormers shouldn’t have any trouble.
20 Apr 2012, 11:36 am
stevewarren – Agree. The stormers backline is very flairy looking, they must run that blasted ball and score some tries, more than the reds hopefully!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:41 am
Stormers penalty within the first minute of the game.
Grant to take the attempt at goal.
20 Apr 2012, 11:42 am
And it’s OVERRRRR!
20 Apr 2012, 11:42 am
http://kostatz.webs.com/ is not working anybody know of another site to watch the game?
20 Apr 2012, 11:42 am
I am staying in Queensland and am unable to watch this game. Better service in Shaghai.
20 Apr 2012, 11:42 am
@Provvas(Provvas)-23: Kostaz, that’s it!
20 Apr 2012, 11:43 am
Nice catch by Habana from the kickoff, set the tone for everybody to follow.
Hopefully those early phases are a sign of things to come.
Mooi skop Grant
20 Apr 2012, 11:43 am
michael – well it isn’t working!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:44 am
@race of tan(race of tan)-29: Working for me?
Damn missed the first penalty.
20 Apr 2012, 11:45 am
Juan de Jongh tackles Sam Lane out of the game.
20 Apr 2012, 11:45 am
hi guys! what is the link for live streaming again pleeeeeease.????????
20 Apr 2012, 11:46 am
I watched the full replay of the Crusaders game and the refereeing was bad both ways (starting with Carter being called for a knock on in the opening minutes when he kicked forward and Crusaders were chasing for a try). The numerous accusations on here that the referee had cheated or was biased were just plain bolllocks.
it was just **** refereeing, not biased
20 Apr 2012, 11:46 am
http://kostatz.webs.com/ works fine for me
20 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
Nice Aplon!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
Turnover to the smallest man on the field, Gio Aplon!
20 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
@logie_Jumpbuck(logie_Jumpbuck)-36: kostatz.webs. com/
20 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
@chch(chch)-37:
Agreed.
I think most have moved on.
20 Apr 2012, 11:48 am
@chch(chch)-37:
I assume you mean the Crusaders Stormers game.
Agreed. No cheating. The Stormers gained from a try from a forward pass that wasn’t called, and the Crusaders gained from an illegal turnover at the ruck which led to their only try.
In the end the Crusaders deserved to win that game. The refereeing was poor both ways.
20 Apr 2012, 11:48 am
Wow!
Another thumping tackle by De Jongh.
20 Apr 2012, 11:48 am
Aplon is on FFFFIIIIRRREEEEEEEEE
20 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
Aplon SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
TACKLE DE JONGH
20 Apr 2012, 11:49 am
APPIES!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:50 am
~YYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS
Fantastic Grant and what a pass and finish by Aplon!!!!
(Hondo chokes on his OK Bazaars cookies)
20 Apr 2012, 11:50 am
Who said that backline can’t run, see what difference there is when JDV is out?
20 Apr 2012, 11:50 am
Aplon means my work productivity is now shot to hell
20 Apr 2012, 11:51 am
Grant converts, Stormers lead 10-0 after 9 minutes.
20 Apr 2012, 11:51 am
Cheer WPTID and Tacitus
20 Apr 2012, 11:52 am
Stormers hurting the Army Ants on defence.
20 Apr 2012, 11:52 am
@Michael(mikeybrass)-41: THANKS!!!
20 Apr 2012, 11:56 am
Think the Stormers will be too strong for the Reds.
I see only a few sides capable of challenging them near the top
* Chiefs, Crusaders, Bulls (and if the planets align themselves Sharks but thats a long shot)
20 Apr 2012, 11:56 am
Looks like the Reds won’t be taking back the “Australian Quota Club charity lucky crappy team semi-final spot” today
20 Apr 2012, 11:57 am
Genia has been caught many times now.
Aplon is amazing on defence and attack.
20 Apr 2012, 11:59 am
Aplon is my favourite African player
20 Apr 2012, 11:59 am
Give it time guys. This game is only getting started. Reds have a good work ethic and can come back. Jeez, you ppl are so emotional….
20 Apr 2012, 11:59 am
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-35: so much for Hondo’s midget.
20 Apr 2012, 12:00 pm
This Stormer’s team is extremely rounded… stoic defence, strong pack, excellent backs…
Offensive tackle… JDJ… turnover… line-break… JDJ… try-assist… JDJ… try Aplon…
Let that put to rest that JDJ is defensively frail and that his passing has not improved…
20 Apr 2012, 12:01 pm
@AiDoc(AiDoc)-59: WHAT? African player? What about Victor or Schalla? They’re African as well!
20 Apr 2012, 12:02 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-13: up yours, troll
20 Apr 2012, 12:02 pm
African player indeed!
20 Apr 2012, 12:05 pm
Kolisi
20 Apr 2012, 12:06 pm
Bumbling Reds now in deep trouble with two MORE backs injured and a 5.2 split…
Hehe… Eldstadt not having a good game poor guy!
20 Apr 2012, 12:06 pm
ewen mckenzie is no mug…
20 Apr 2012, 12:06 pm
I’m gone say it every week but Kolisi’s made in the mold of Kaino, pure iron.
20 Apr 2012, 12:08 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-67: but you’re the 5-2 split & 85min rugby man
20 Apr 2012, 12:08 pm
How is JDJ performing at 12?
20 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm
@wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-69: no hype please.
20 Apr 2012, 12:09 pm
He is south african IDIOT! Whose your favourite european in the stormers
*******
20 Apr 2012, 12:11 pm
@willievz(willievz)-71: whitehead is better than him.
20 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm
@willievz(willievz)-71: Wonderful.
20 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-70:
Get it right… my catch-phrase is 22man 85min rugby
Like the Lions I wonder who the Red’s conditioning coach is… what’s that 9 key players now injured?
Stormer’s looking very relaxed atm… with the way this Reds team are playing they can so far afford to be.
20 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm
Gio saving Pietersens ***. What a player Gio
20 Apr 2012, 12:13 pm
@viewer(viewer)-73: when he says “african” he includes everyone, he is not a saffa or a home affairs official.
20 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
Come on Reds.
20 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
Reds are as bad as looking after their own ball as Chadwick and the Sharks are!
20 Apr 2012, 12:15 pm
test
20 Apr 2012, 12:16 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-76: stormers will relax until the 80th minute, they always start like a house on fire only to fizzle into a defensive mode.
20 Apr 2012, 12:16 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-74: Not a chance.
20 Apr 2012, 12:16 pm
@willievz(willievz)-71:
He’s looking very promising, I’ve been saying for months now he’s more of a natural inside centre since he can accelerate off both feet.
His defense has been immense so far.
20 Apr 2012, 12:17 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-80: lol…dale’s hands are bad.
20 Apr 2012, 12:19 pm
Grant SCORES!!!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 12:19 pm
GRANT!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 12:20 pm
Geez – the Stormers are murdering these guys !
20 Apr 2012, 12:20 pm
Trans
Hmmmmm. . .do we say “john eales is a well known AUSTRALASIAN player”?
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-79: that was a quick change of allegiance. Took all of a month, hey mate?
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
Peter you beauty!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
Great try
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
Still think these guys can’t run???
STOOOOOOOORMERS!!!
Vintage stuff
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
Peter Grant ran through virtually the entire Reds defense there. I have to admit it when I see it – that was quality for sure !
20 Apr 2012, 12:21 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-84: Agreed. JdJ is a better inside centre.
What skills… Ginger has fantastic ball skills, then Aplon AGAIN.
20 Apr 2012, 12:22 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-90: I was actually just trying to see who would react…only you did
20 Apr 2012, 12:22 pm
The Stormers are displaying their full range of skills. Come on boys!
I am so chuffed that Grant is taking the kicks.
20 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-82:
For sure… but they seem to have an ‘attack from anywhere’ confidence in them with the Reds being so out-of-sorts this season…
@Transformation(Transformation)-85:
Painfully so…
20 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm
@WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-84: I’ve been saying the exact same thing…
20 Apr 2012, 12:24 pm
is it 6-17 or 3-17?
20 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm
@Dusky(Dusky)-96: the others are brain dead…
20 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-100: 13-17
20 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm
Habana & JdJ are getting through a lot of work, but there’s no combination/understanding between them.
20 Apr 2012, 12:25 pm
I only said he was my favourite from your incontinent not the greatest of all time. Sheeeeks
20 Apr 2012, 12:26 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-101: Nah – they just sick of me
20 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm
Reds = Flash in the pan one hit wonders!! Hahhaaaaa……..Loftus broke their back again. They will have nightmares about Loftus for long after this season has finished.
20 Apr 2012, 12:29 pm
We must press ahead for 5 points now.
Habana was in a slight state of shock with the fact that he’s getting passes in the first 20, earlier this season playing next to JDV he looked like he was loafing for a stukkie bal.
20 Apr 2012, 12:29 pm
@viewer(viewer)-89: no, we don’t.
i know from listening to all the commentators and players… mccaw will say “it’s always tough going to africa and the africans play a physical type of game”
if you watch reunion, they also say “africans”, maybe if zimbabwe was also part of sanzar then they’d have to differentiate.
20 Apr 2012, 12:30 pm
4 try bonus gettable?
20 Apr 2012, 12:31 pm
I seem to recall a certain kenner saying the blueprint to winning rugby is to kick it in your own half an possibly in you opponents half as well. He must be completely baffled that a team can score from their own tryline, never mind their own half. He must feel pretty d00slik now.
A positive mindset and belief, can do wonders.
20 Apr 2012, 12:32 pm
@AiDoc(AiDoc)-104: your favourite black rugby player from the African continent or your favourite African rugga player? Cause I think Ngwenja from America is quite an exciting young black winger….but he’s not from Africa.
20 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-110: well, the stormers haven’t won YET, they’re leading
#jusayin
20 Apr 2012, 12:35 pm
Trans see post 104 “incontinent”
Do you trust him
20 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm
With all thi stalke of who the Bok flyhalf should, i have a feeling Peter Grants time may have arrived!! Obviously Morne Steyn is first choice but i think Peter Grant should definiteyl be the backup.
20 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck(logie_Jumpbuck)-111: ngwenya is not from africa, he is zimbabwean born
20 Apr 2012, 12:36 pm
HG is nou so stil soos ‘n kerk muis.
20 Apr 2012, 12:38 pm
@race of tan(race of tan)-114: oh please not again. has he miraculously grown a strong leg or he’s been working with eben’s extra heavy dumbels on his leg?
20 Apr 2012, 12:38 pm
@race of tan(race of tan)-114:
Grant’s having a good game, but he’ll have to play like this over the entire season to even have a sniff.
He’s played as well as this before in previous years only to drop from the radar when it came near selection time.
20 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-112: My point is not the result. My point is that the result enabler shouldn’t be limited. Foundational principles will stay the same, but when you think you’ve bottled the formula, be assures that there are 3 or 4 others which remain unbottled.
20 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm
@wpstormerbok(wpstormerbok)-116: ‘n dood kerk muis
20 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm
Entire stormers backline offside Walsh must have had a sharpener at half time.
20 Apr 2012, 12:41 pm
@XhosaKid(XhosaKid)-100:
17-8… try…
20 Apr 2012, 12:41 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-9: A “Cultured” Aussie???
20 Apr 2012, 12:41 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-122:
I take that back it won’t be awarded!
20 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-115: yeah, Zim is certainly nothing like the rest of Africa…..
20 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm
Reds throwing this game away… despite more key injuries this game they’ve missed 3 PK’s and fumbled a try…
20 Apr 2012, 12:46 pm
@logie_Jumpbuck(logie_Jumpbuck)-125:
Yep, Zim and Pretoria
20 Apr 2012, 12:46 pm
It’s not bad without commentary
20 Apr 2012, 12:48 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-126: 3pk’s?
p0e$ klaps?
20 Apr 2012, 12:53 pm
Whats happening… Brokebacks take their own ref to the game in Oz?
20 Apr 2012, 12:57 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-130:
You seriously need some new material.
20 Apr 2012, 12:58 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-129:
Haha… penalty kicks… mofo…
20 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
wow they scored
20 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
Deon Fourie feeling a bit sorry for the home-team there…
20 Apr 2012, 13:00 pm
Should have been a penalty to Stormers. Jumper interfered with in the air….
20 Apr 2012, 13:02 pm
come on Stormers don’t drift into defence mode now!
you know there’s something called a BONUS point!
20 Apr 2012, 13:03 pm
Etzebeth’s had a great game, again.
20 Apr 2012, 13:03 pm
Oh dear… Whats it going to be, Brokeback Breezing Buggers….
20 Apr 2012, 13:04 pm
Push for the bonus point.!
20 Apr 2012, 13:04 pm
Have the the Boys from Brokeback Central got the ballas?
20 Apr 2012, 13:05 pm
Very impressed with Kolisi, composed and intelligent
20 Apr 2012, 13:05 pm
Sydney Pride
or
Cape Town Pride…
Which Rainbow Team gonna win here?
20 Apr 2012, 13:07 pm
So the ref is sponsored by DHL too
20 Apr 2012, 13:08 pm
It’s a pleasure to see a RSA side protecting their own ball with offensive rucking (unlike the Boks in the RWC)…
20 Apr 2012, 13:09 pm
What’s the state of play? Game disjointed, slowing down, or lots of subs or what?
20 Apr 2012, 13:10 pm
Stormers useless on attack!
20 Apr 2012, 13:12 pm
@viewer(viewer)-145:
Disjointed.
20 Apr 2012, 13:15 pm
I’m a bit concerned tht we still can’t kill teams off. Granted Reds improved 2nd half, but we should scored 4 by the 60th minute
20 Apr 2012, 13:15 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-143:
If the stormers lose against the reds they are utter rubbish.
20 Apr 2012, 13:21 pm
Saying the Reds threw this game away is a bit harsh when they had some many injured in the game (and of course the Stormer’s defence was rock solid as per norm)… but those 3 missed PK’s and fumble over the line cost them a much needed win.
Well done Stormers… first RSA side to win at Suncorp…
20 Apr 2012, 13:21 pm
Win is a win @ the end of the day. STOOOOOOOOORRRRRMMMMMEEEERRRRSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 13:25 pm
Fern what industry you in?
20 Apr 2012, 13:27 pm
No attacking bonus point… again…
Boring…
And Lucky
20 Apr 2012, 13:29 pm
Fern, the Reds are like the Lions at the moment with injuries…
You right. They should win… I didn’t think the Breezers had the ballas to win, even against an understrength Reds… And they didn’t.
The Reds just had less ballas…
20 Apr 2012, 13:32 pm
Job well done Stormers!
20 Apr 2012, 13:33 pm
This Stormers side should have thrashed the daylights out of this Reds team. It is instructive that they didn’t. And its a bit of a disgrace that with the Boks in their backline that they couldn’t even score a bonus point against a very weak and quite obviously demoralised Reds side…
Not very impressive at all.
20 Apr 2012, 13:34 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-153: Suck it up ******. Come talk to me tomorrow after the Chiefs rip your team to shreds!
20 Apr 2012, 13:39 pm
The only thing good about the Stormers backline at the moment is JdJ and Aplon… The former though will be cast off yet again to be understudy when Munster Superstar Captain gets back in the saddle….
A shame really.
Sharks are probably outscoring Stormers at 2 to 1 in the try count this season…
Bulls and Cheetahs much higher in the try count too…
I reckon the Lions are even scoring more tries than the Breezers…
Shows how fcked up these laws are that a side with no ability to score tries can get the benefit of doubt from refs and be in the top half of the table…
20 Apr 2012, 13:39 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-156: You just make yourself look like a fool with the drivel you produce on this thread.. firstly you had a whole song being put into numerous post of just how the reds will prevail and how the stormers bubble will burst again…
Now you try and hide behind the fact that the stormers did not score four tries..
Shame… you poor guppie
20 Apr 2012, 13:41 pm
Fishfood RFC PRO HG
Wont you sing your lil song again please?
20 Apr 2012, 13:41 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-156:
Another HG prediction down the drain.
How does it feel to be wrong so often?
Clutching to straws afterwards only makes it look worse.
20 Apr 2012, 13:42 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-158: Why dont you look at the wins vs losses column of the stormers and then again at the one for the guppies…
20 Apr 2012, 13:45 pm
well done on your win stormers.
of course theres a bonus point nuclear bomb coming tomorrow now the bulls know what they need to do.
20 Apr 2012, 13:46 pm
Which team is currently top of the log?
20 Apr 2012, 13:47 pm
very good win this, bounced back exceptionally well against defending champs in brisbance minus a few key players, stormers to go all the way this year.
20 Apr 2012, 13:47 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-158:
Sharks might be outscoring the Stormers but the Stormers have beaten them 4 x in a row since the start of last season (including the friendly).
And they are leading them by a mile on the log this season and ended above them last season.
So explain to me what is the benefit to the Sharks in outscoring them at 2 to 1 in the try count as you so proudly pointed out
20 Apr 2012, 13:47 pm
Just came to see the comments here but goodness me what a little ray of sunshine @Heavens Game is! What’s your mum feeding you son? ****?
20 Apr 2012, 13:48 pm
Well done to the Stormers.
Sorry to disappoint all the WP haters.
Get used to it.
We could have put the nail in the coffin, but we stuffed up in too many set pieces today.
The Reds played Walshie very well, they were lying on our side at the rucks all game long, but at the end of the day we had enough momentum after the first half to put them away.
20 Apr 2012, 13:50 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-163: The Bulls have it all to play for tomorrow.
20 Apr 2012, 13:50 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-158: Pop……………….pop………………..pop……….
Shame you wanna be tops? Win more games. Shame just look at how much games your team has won. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.
20 Apr 2012, 13:53 pm
well done stormers. Now we just need the sharks to teach the chiefs a lesson.
I must say though I find it worrying how the stormers switch off after getting a lead.
20 Apr 2012, 13:55 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-166: @Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-158:
Bro.
To date your team is NOT outscoring your opponents by a count of 184 – 206. (-32)
The Stormers on the other hand are outscoring our opponents by 193 – 141. (+52)
That’s a points difference of 84 more than the Sharks.
But you carry on with your “more tries” angle.
That’s obviously working out really well for you guys.
20 Apr 2012, 13:57 pm
Sharks are gonna be klapped at the fishbowl tomorrow, and they will end mid table this year. Maybe 9th if they’re lucky.
20 Apr 2012, 13:59 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-172: LOL LOL
Don’t bother. Logic and comprehension isn’t Heavens Gat’s strong suit, poor kid.
20 Apr 2012, 13:59 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-169:
yip, and i’ve got a feeling they gonna go bos.
expect another reds/cheetahs style running of the bulls.
20 Apr 2012, 14:04 pm
I think the bulls are going to kill the brumbies so thats a given, the sharks vs chiefs game on the other hand is going to be tough. Hope the proper sharks pitch up.
20 Apr 2012, 14:05 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-175: Obviously I would want them to win, but I must admit, I have a bit of a conundrum here…….
20 Apr 2012, 14:06 pm
well done stormers.
Not badly played either.
Now thats over with, i would like to point out something.
It seems weird that a few of you jump down HGs throat when hes having a dig at your team but when he acts the same way when the Boks vs the ABs, you all shut up and let him carry on.
Suck it up i say. As you were HG.
20 Apr 2012, 14:07 pm
Can someone please tell me when this stormers ‘bubble’ is going to burst? We’ve been hearing about this bubble bursting from mid April, and I’ve been waiting
HG the leader of the doom-prophets pack.
20 Apr 2012, 14:08 pm
Well done Stormers. Winning becomes a habit and as the adage goes if you continue winning the rest will fall in place. There are many negative comments made but jealousy is a nasty thing.
Good luck to both the Sharks and Bulls tomorrow. Do us proud, esepecially the Sharks who could assist both the Bulls and Stormers if they win…
20 Apr 2012, 14:11 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-166: Its called actually playing rugby…
You know… the whole point of the game… why Willy Webb actually picked up the ball in the first place… To run with it… Because he thought kicking was for sissies and that it was boring….
To score tries is the whole point of Rugby… If its not, then its not Rugby…
20 Apr 2012, 14:11 pm
@SteveWarren(SteveWarren)-176:
true, this is a game both the bulls and stomers will be hoping the sharks come to the party and find some bite.
besides, they’ve got a playoff semi worth chasing too.
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-177:
well expect your conundrum to burst come tomorrow 9:00pm.
20 Apr 2012, 14:12 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-178: How are you Hurricunt…. Lifes unfair hey, sheepshagger?
20 Apr 2012, 14:12 pm
Brisbane can be a very difficult place to get a good result.
Stormers should be happy with win. Well done.
20 Apr 2012, 14:12 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-158: Shame, cry me a f@@king river. One thing’s for sure, the guppies will once again finish below the Stormers.
20 Apr 2012, 14:13 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-178: look hg is a whining old cu nt. if i was in a pub and the boks were playing the ab’s and he was there, i’d rather go sit with the ab supporters. that goes for some other bok supporters on here as well.
20 Apr 2012, 14:13 pm
20 Apr 2012, 14:13 pm
One good thing about Kolisi, and he has many, is that he never loses his cool, he is not interested in personal battles, he only wants to play rugby. Very clinical guy and still 20 years old
20 Apr 2012, 14:14 pm
Reds ruin my weekend already
20 Apr 2012, 14:15 pm
How can anyone survive being so sad and miserable. Eish man…
20 Apr 2012, 14:16 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-172: I see you mention points…
Rather convenient…
How about some try stats… or does that look too farken hideously embarrassing…
Those points include all those little complimentary gimmes in the last 10 mins against the Bulls, Lions and Sharks… glad you can officially claim them but add them up and you have 18 points absolutely given by refs…
But no tries…
Its almost right to say that the Breezers are a ref dependent team… No more… no less…
20 Apr 2012, 14:16 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-186:
And I’d buy you a beer…………………………………………….maybe two.
8)
20 Apr 2012, 14:16 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-181: Lol and here I was thinking the point of rugby was to finish the game with more points than your opponents
20 Apr 2012, 14:16 pm
I didn’t watch the game, so can’t really comment. Just flippen glad we beat the champions…
20 Apr 2012, 14:16 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-181: While you get under people’s skin most of the time,the statement below hits the nail on the head. It should be the philosophy everyone who is involved in either coaching or playing aspires to.
“You know… the whole point of the game… why Willy Webb actually picked up the ball in the first place… To run with it… Because he thought kicking was for sissies and that it was boring….”
20 Apr 2012, 14:17 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-183:
Life is unfair my little Heavens Gayme.
You seem to be making alot of friends in here.
20 Apr 2012, 14:17 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-181:
That’s why a try was worth only one point which then allowed the team to try and kick a goal, which was the actual purpose of the original game.
20 Apr 2012, 14:17 pm
@Atreides(Atreides)-193:
20 Apr 2012, 14:17 pm
I think the day will come when the stormers will score the bonus point. But for now 7 wins out of 8 and 3 of those away from home makes for nice reading. The stormer s are yet to lose a game at home which really speaks a lot of they quality of this team.
You know stats is a tricky thing and sometimes people will try and read too much in it. The fact of the matter is that without three senior players and effectively leaders in this squad out with injuries, the stormers still managed to play the same rugby their structures require.
Looking at it this way: They have lost Schalk, JDV, Andries Bekker to injuries and also have lost players like JJ, Jaqcue, Sadie, etc to other unions. Why are they not sitting on the bottom of the log then like the lions? The lions only lost about 4 -5 players that could be considered any good?
More praise has to go to this stormer team that seems to be written off every week by the media and bloggers alike, but somehow seems to keep winning games.
20 Apr 2012, 14:18 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-186:
Ok, sounds good.
20 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-181: And here I thought that the aim of rugby is to score more points than the other team. Think we need to go back in time and give old Billy a slap when he came up with the idea of kicking penalties and conversions….
20 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
Pop goes the weasel…!
20 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
Some people here always blame the ref when they lose, something I will never stoop to. Go check all my posts and see if I have ever blamed anyone by the players themselves…
Says so much about the culprit moaning about the poor quality of the Stormers team when it is not even his team. BUT when his team loses it is the ref… Shame but true… Sad sad sad…
20 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-181: So help me if i don’t understand correctly….according to your version of ‘Rugby’…that only tries count on the scoreboard if we discard all the penalties and conversions…the Stormers still would’ve won 2 – 1?
So what is your point exactly? By how many tries should the Stormers have won for you to accept that they beat the Reds at a game of ‘Rugby’ ?
20 Apr 2012, 14:22 pm
@the peanut gallery(peanut)-129: hahaha
20 Apr 2012, 14:23 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-191: Eish… what about those tries against column hey?? Sharks seem to be getting given up the p00p more than actually giving it too
20 Apr 2012, 14:23 pm
Well played Stormers..
Would have been good to get the bonus point… but they deliberately took their feet off the gas once they were ahead and then just did enough to stay ahead… to conserve energy for the rest next weekend of a strong of really tough, physical matches…
Well done… Very proud of the guys…!
20 Apr 2012, 14:23 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-195: Okes think its great when refs and the laws reward negative play… When you don’t have to score tries to win games… When the attacking/try scoring side does not get benefit of the doubt.
Its a fckup and the Breezers are not only fcking up the talent in their backline but at the vanguard of messing up rugby totally….
20 Apr 2012, 14:25 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-191: Ok, lets look at Tries.
How about you go and find a stat that shows the Stormers vs Sharks this year, Tries for vs Tries against??
I can’t be arsed to look too hard myself but this week is Stormers 2 – 1.
I’m pretty sure we will be in comfortable positive territory, and there will be a good chance that your statistic will be negative.
So ja, one of the most entertaining parts of watching rugby is watching tries, but that doesn’t tell the whole story now does it???
20 Apr 2012, 14:25 pm
@IceMan612(IceMan612)-204: So true so true!!
We outscored the Crusaders but got the harsh end of Mr Pollock… so we lost a game
Getting 4 tries in a game is exactly what the point imply.. a bonus…
20 Apr 2012, 14:25 pm
Now we blame the refs and laws again. I thought rugby was about playing to the laws and to the refs interpretation. Wrong again…
20 Apr 2012, 14:26 pm
@ufo(ufo)-207:
lol, they deliberatly took the foot of the gas??
Now UFO, are you sure you believe that my friend?
20 Apr 2012, 14:26 pm
@IceMan612(IceMan612)-204: I’m inclined to agree with HG on this. Lack of try bonus points could mean the difference between a home semi or not. At worst, it could mean the difference between making the playoffs or not. The stormers, as has been said a few times on this site seem to play not to lose. Surely with the score being 17-3 at half time, you would’ve pushed for a try early after half time, to maximize the time to get the 4th try, while also putting a score distance between themselves and the reds.
20 Apr 2012, 14:27 pm
Tomorrow if the Sharks lose, and I really hope I’m wrong, then the ref will be lamblasted or the culprit will be nowhere to be seen…
20 Apr 2012, 14:28 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-195:
Good post Pompies2.
Even the fattiest love a run with the ball in hand.
8)
20 Apr 2012, 14:28 pm
@ufo(ufo)-207:
sheesh…. that was nonsense…
but they deliberately took their feet off the gas once they were ahead and then just did enough to stay ahead… to conserve energy for the force match next weekend after a string of really tough, physical matches…
and after the force we have a buy… to recharge the batteries…
20 Apr 2012, 14:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-208: Hey HG…. you got me all excited about htis scoring tries thing that I suddenly realised that would mean that we won the 2010 title!!! Yeaaayyyy!!!!!! Remember???? that game where the stormers scored 2 trties to 1 of the bulls in Orlando??
20 Apr 2012, 14:28 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-209: You seem to be avoiding the whole crux… Disguise it as much as you like, labia lawyerly type, how many tries have the Stormers scored this season… Not points, ref dependent… Tries, team dependent….
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Stormers are in the bottom 3 teams of the S15 for tries scored…
A disgrace for rugby actually….
20 Apr 2012, 14:28 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-213:
Then again losing by less than seven only gives 1 bonus point. I would rather get the four for a win first than be happy with one for four tries and one for less than seven. Goes both ways…
20 Apr 2012, 14:29 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-211:
Exactly Bill.
I will be watching your posts carefully during the championship cup
20 Apr 2012, 14:30 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-212:
i actually do…
it’s a long season and it’s about pacing yourselves…
AC has said many times it’s about getting the win… once that was looking probable there was a definite ease-up….
20 Apr 2012, 14:30 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-211:
You should post more often Billy.
Far more often.
20 Apr 2012, 14:31 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-220:
I have NEVER blamed the ref mate. Go back and check and watch me like a hawk…
20 Apr 2012, 14:31 pm
of huge concern to me was eben’s arm/shoulder…
he held it very lam when he came off and it was in a sling after the match…
20 Apr 2012, 14:31 pm
@cane(cane)-222:
20 Apr 2012, 14:32 pm
@ufo(ufo)-224:
20 Apr 2012, 14:32 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-219: That’s why i mentioned gunning for a try soon after half time. They should then have weighed up risk vs. reward. Is the risk of getting a 4th try worth the reward if the reds get a losing bonus point. I’m sure you’ll answer in the affirmative.
20 Apr 2012, 14:33 pm
@Provvas(Provvas)-217: Maybe… Which would make it a deserved win… Then again Sharks have outscored the opposing team try wise in a Super final more than once… many times.
20 Apr 2012, 14:34 pm
@ufo(ufo)-224:
maybe he’s resting it…took the foot off its gas… conserving its energy for next week..?..
20 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-213: I think we all know the bonus of bonus points and it could make a huge difference….
But say we apply this rule of rahter winning games and not scoring bonus points:
Should the Stormers beat the bulls twice even with the bulls getting bonus points in those games.. they wold have gained 6 – 8 points difference in this specific scenario over the bulls… should both team keep on winning and only the bulls score bonus points… they will need 6 – 8 games to catch up to the deficit….. It seems a bit too much to ask in my opinion…
20 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-226:
yeah bill…
walked off holding it very still by his side… and had showered and changed by the end of the game with his right arm in a sling…
20 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-227:
Of course we all want the four try bonus points mate. It is a bonus and yes it can make the difference in the end. A lot of the teams bonus points are for losing by less than seven. Ask the Sharks supporters – they have a few
20 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@cane(cane)-222:
ja, because some bloggers here find the truth a little hard to stomach.
20 Apr 2012, 14:36 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218: Ok let’s see how much you like this little stat… Tries per game:
Stormers 3 – Hurricanes 2
Stormers 0 – Sharks 0
Stormers 2 – Blues 2
Stormers 2 – Lions 1
Stormers 1 – Bulls 2
Stormers 2 – Highlanders 0
Stormers 2 – Crusaders 1
Stormers 2 – Reds 1
So the Stormers have only been outscored by tries once this year.
20 Apr 2012, 14:36 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-232:
So Bekker and Eben crocked! Not good. Listen the last game on tour is always the most difficult to win and the Force are not the walkover at home that most think…
20 Apr 2012, 14:36 pm
@ufo(ufo)-221:
Well UFO, bonus points can make a difference.
If they do enough to win most games without bonus points, they may find themselves playing Saders in Christchurch in quarter final.
I on the other hand am going to give the Reds credit for stopping the Stormers getting there bonus points.
It is a long season but you have to hammer all teams. Make them scared of you.
They will remember a hiding, that will be in the back of the oppositions minds.
Better that above than to have the reds thinking now that they can win the next game. Only 10 points in it last time.
20 Apr 2012, 14:38 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-229:
i reckon so…
what would be the point of playing flat out.. injuring a couple of more players… and then losing to the force…?
look… i’m only speculating of course… but i believe that being able to pitch up and take the force we had to ensure there’s something left in the tank…. and then have a by to recover at home…
20 Apr 2012, 14:38 pm
@Heavens Game”
……………………….have outscored the opposing team try wise in a Super final more than once… many times.”
How many exactly, constitutes “many times”
1 or 2………………………………………….?
20 Apr 2012, 14:39 pm
@ufo(ufo)-231:
ja ok, i hope its not serious.
20 Apr 2012, 14:39 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-233:
Yep, and some bloggers just lie and lie so much that their world is all messed up.
20 Apr 2012, 14:39 pm
@Provvas(Provvas)-210: lucky tries !
20 Apr 2012, 14:40 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-233:
Sies Whitney… Hoesit…
20 Apr 2012, 14:41 pm
hurricanes vs crusaders….hmmmmm
who do i want to see win it less..
maybe a draw would be nice…..
20 Apr 2012, 14:42 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218:
What satisfaction do you get by continuing like this?
Fact is the Stormers won- like they have done for most of the last 3 seasons – you know damn well at the end of the day it is all that counts.
The Boks won the WC final against England in 2007 without scoring a try- did you also say at that time that it was not rugby and a disgrace or did you celebrate the win like the rest of us?
20 Apr 2012, 14:42 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218: The stormers have scored 14 tries in 8 games and conceded 9.. so still outscoring the opposition
The sharks have scored 21 and conceded 19…… almost 50/50 there…
The problem for the stormers is not scoring tries.. it is scoring 4 tries in a game!!
I will say it again.. do I prefer my team playing ruinning rugby like the cheetahs and hover around 10th position or do I like the way they play now and be no 1 on the log??
Hell no 1 looks good!!
20 Apr 2012, 14:42 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218: I actually enjoy your little infantile rants. I think you are more obsessed with the Stormers than with the Sharks. Honestly dude you comment more on Stormers threads than on those regarding your team. Really amusing.
Ref depentant … team dependant…classic
I think you should be more concerned with the amount of games the banana boys have one than with the number of tries the Stormers have scored.
20 Apr 2012, 14:43 pm
@Provvas(Provvas)-230: At no stage should you compromise the result to get a bonus point. I didn’t say you should.
So assuming the Bulls win all the way through and the stormers have a hiccup or two, those wins over the Bulls become irrelevant. The point of getting a bonus point, specifically against a weaker side, is so that it either further enhances your position on the log or tries to claw back a deficit or to build up a buffer for when an off day comes and even on the off day, you should still try for the log points on offer.
20 Apr 2012, 14:43 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-236:
yeah bud…
but i think they’d rather take 4 points against the reds and 4 maybe 5 next weekend too… knowing they rest after that…
rather that than bust a few more players to get 5 this weekend and then not get any next weekend…
look obviously i would like to see the tries and bonus points too… but hell man… they ARE top of log (until the bulls and chiefs have their games anyway) and have been playing well…
a win’s a win as we always say… and i’m not gonna jump on the hater’s bandwagon and look for reasons to criticize…
i only need one reason to celebrate…
we won…
20 Apr 2012, 14:44 pm
I don’t know whether it has been updated since today’s games or not, but according to sarugby.net, the total number of tries scored in this year’s Super Rugby for the two teams is:
Stormers 13
Sharks 21
http://www.sarugby.net/tryscorers.aspx?categoryid=sarugby/super14&leagueid=1041&fullview=true
(Had to go through a five-page list of names here and add them up!)
20 Apr 2012, 14:44 pm
@kfc(kfc)-246: one = won
20 Apr 2012, 14:45 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-214: it started yesterdayalready “why do the sharks come back from an oversees tour and get a kiwi ref, when have the stormers had a kiwi ref in any of their home games”
i had to remind the blogger that the stormers had glen jackson blowing their game against the blues at newlands
20 Apr 2012, 14:46 pm
@ufo(ufo)-248:
And well done UFO.
Your team deserved the win no matter what way anyone looks at it.
Scoreboard says it all.
20 Apr 2012, 14:46 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-236:
hey bud… if the crusaders played carter out of position and brought in the extra-tall timber just to play the stormers…
i reckon we’re getting there… it’s easy for the the fans to go off all the time… but the players know different…
20 Apr 2012, 14:47 pm
@stew(stew)-241: forward passes lucky tries… sure you will know about those.. but they still count as tries!!
20 Apr 2012, 14:47 pm
Great win Stormers. I just caught the second half. Great play Stormers. Lots of width from the backline and once again great dominance by the forwards.
20 Apr 2012, 14:47 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-240:
no…no lies…just straight and direct truth.. no more no less…
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-242:
baie goed dankie, bill.
20 Apr 2012, 14:48 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-251:
Thanks Transie! I hope he puts that in his socks and smokes it…
20 Apr 2012, 14:48 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-252:
thank you…
but still aware of a long season and many tough matches ahead… mainly bulls and sharks in their kitchens…
and cheetahs too…
20 Apr 2012, 14:48 pm
I think Pigsy (HG) may well have left the building.
You Brokebacks can be so cruel.
20 Apr 2012, 14:49 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-256:
Het jy toe die Game gekyk? Ek moes werk. Nie so ryk soos julle nie…
20 Apr 2012, 14:49 pm
Well strompies probably left 2 tries and a bonus point on the board,but a valient effort nonetheless and a win is a win ou pel
20 Apr 2012, 14:50 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-243: Dont worry the Saders are on the run to the play offs now
20 Apr 2012, 14:51 pm
@cane(cane)-259:
You have to be cruel to be kind mate.
20 Apr 2012, 14:51 pm
@cane(cane)-259:
He’s a loser,but knows when he has lost,quite used to that hopelessness by now imo.
20 Apr 2012, 14:51 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-247: the problem with our argument is that the stormers lose a game and the bulls dont… Cause this is axactly the theory behind winning rather than getting bonus points!1 The stormers are the likely team not to lose more games but the bulls are… they still need to travel… should the bulls lose a game or two, their bonus points will count for sweet nothing!! And this is the importance of putting valuing a win over a bonus point..
20 Apr 2012, 14:52 pm
Would hate to be married to HG – he does not stop when he is on a roll. I support the Stormers but I am supporting the Sharks tomorrow and the Sharks may even come back – they have games at home in hand – HG can you stop talking rubbish – you are like a little boy who lost his toy and you forget about concentrating on rugby. Happens when you are trying to argue rather than discuss a topic. I support all SA teams – maybe not the Bulls I mean how can one support a team where the supporters wear horns and the team dresses in PINK, OK well I like Spies and Hougard is world class except for the tatoes – and JJ was my favourite player at the Stormers – so yes maybe I should look beyond the HORNS and the PINK.
20 Apr 2012, 14:52 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-249: I make it 14 – 10 for the Stormers and 20 – 19 for the Sharks.
20 Apr 2012, 14:53 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-256:
see messed up
20 Apr 2012, 14:54 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-251:
As far as refs are concerned the Stormers’ worst nightmare has never been kiwi refs.
It’s been Craig Joubert by a mile.
20 Apr 2012, 14:55 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-178: You lot are more than capable of defending ourselves; you surely don’t need Saffies to defend Kiwis now.
20 Apr 2012, 14:56 pm
Come on the Sharks win tomorrow – daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
20 Apr 2012, 14:56 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-218: Well then you must be happy with all the entertainment that your team has created for everyone.
I for one do enjoy watching the Sharks games,
Against the Canes you let them score 6 tries in one match. Your team could only muster 2.
Good entertainment all round.
20 Apr 2012, 14:56 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-267: 14 – 9 and 21 – 19 boys.. come on it is not that difficult to get on the net…
Ok gotta go.. cheers go Sharks and go Brumbies!!!
20 Apr 2012, 14:57 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-269:
20 Apr 2012, 14:57 pm
Pigsey, Pigsey,
Wherefore art thou Pigsey.
20 Apr 2012, 14:58 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-272: eina
20 Apr 2012, 14:58 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-270:
Yep, we can cope thank you.
But just pointing out the silence when HG goes on one of his PMS episodes against the ABs.
Hes not a problem at all, very harmless.
20 Apr 2012, 14:58 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-269:
Agreed,by a mile.
20 Apr 2012, 14:59 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-267: Found another site that says Stormers have scored 12 and allowed 8, while the Sharks have scored 21 and allowed 19. This seems to be at the end of last weekend. So I can only assume the stats I listed earlier were in the process of being updated when I checked them and they had only listed included one of the two tries the Stormers scored today.
Doesn’t explain you docking the Sharks a try though
20 Apr 2012, 14:59 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-272:
Howzit mate! 9 points from three games not a bad haul. I see most say that taking 9 points on the road is really good. I’m hoping for at least 13 though.
20 Apr 2012, 15:00 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-277:
Is HG a he? No man carries on like a girl and gets away with it…
20 Apr 2012, 15:00 pm
When the going get tough,
Heavens Game hides in the rough.
20 Apr 2012, 15:00 pm
HG has no friends.
I am his only friend.
20 Apr 2012, 15:01 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-283:
His? You mean Her…
20 Apr 2012, 15:03 pm
@Michael(Iron Mike)-270:
We need all the help we can get.
This is not tiddlywinks,
8)
20 Apr 2012, 15:03 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-281:
Oh sorry, heshe/shemale, thats the long version.
@Dawn(Dawn)-283:
Your everyones friend Dawny
20 Apr 2012, 15:03 pm
You horrid people
He is the only Shark here bashing the Stormers.
Dusky fled on page 1 with his sharktail between his legs
20 Apr 2012, 15:04 pm
@cane(cane)-275:
It is skulking in embarassment.it went down the toilet in superbru with it’s picks against the stormers and it’s very pienk face(much like the bull’s jerseys)has now gone into hiding.
20 Apr 2012, 15:04 pm
@cane(cane)-282:
Yep, we have seen it so many times before.
Like his friend Helen.
20 Apr 2012, 15:05 pm
Good day to my Cane buddies from the Hutts.
20 Apr 2012, 15:05 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-283:
You must choose Dawnie,
HG or the rest of humanity.
20 Apr 2012, 15:06 pm
I just read an interview with Sias and it sounds like he’s ready to move without his boet. His contract is till end of 2013 but he does not sound happy about the game time he’s getting.
Stormers you might want to speak to the man.
20 Apr 2012, 15:07 pm
people who live in bubbles shouldn’t go around poking sticks…
20 Apr 2012, 15:07 pm
@cane(cane)-282: as blackpanther would say “he comes and goes”
i miss that blackpanty character!
20 Apr 2012, 15:07 pm
@cane(cane)-291:
20 Apr 2012, 15:08 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-287:
20 Apr 2012, 15:08 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-281:
A he/she …confusion abounds around HG…it loves to refer to poopchutes,bending over,and soap in the shower.
20 Apr 2012, 15:08 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-294:
Doesn’t take much to change a nic
I’m sure he’s around
20 Apr 2012, 15:09 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-290:
Greetings to you also Dawn.
20 Apr 2012, 15:09 pm
@JA-JA(JA-JA)-292:
yes please…!
20 Apr 2012, 15:10 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-298:
yep
Sometimes when Prickboks chracter starts going off, feels like a BP.
20 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
Strange Skop isn’t here yet
He must stll be out chumming sharks in False Bay
20 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-290:
Howdy Dawn
20 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-260:
ja, dit was n opgewonde game behalwe vir die feit dat die stormers weereens aan die slaap geval het in die tweede helfte.
20 Apr 2012, 15:13 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-303:
Howdy doodee
20 Apr 2012, 15:13 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-304:
Hmm i dont know if they fell asleep. I think the reds woke up in the second half
20 Apr 2012, 15:14 pm
@skyewalker(skyewalker)-297:
Hmmm he is always on about Brokebakes etc. Makes one think… I think it is shims way of coming to terms with Shimself…
20 Apr 2012, 15:16 pm
@Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-170: @Provvas(Provvas)-162: @Slappes(Slappes)-173: It always amazes me how you guys react to Heavens game as if he is a true reflection of Sharks supporters. Heavens game is a braggart and certainly does not represent the majority of us Sharks supporters, who incidentelly were supporting the Stormers in this game, I refer you to Sharksworld. Yet instead of ignoring him, and taking the comments in the context from where they are coming you choose to stoop to his level and have a go at the rest of us or our team. Provvas side with the Chiefs if you will, real adult of you, hopefully that will not come back and bite the Stormers in their arse at the end of the competition.
To the other Stormer supporters congratulations! I didn’t see the game followed it on Rugby365 and am looking forward to seeing it when I get home.
Heavens game, please! don’t embarass us any further, the Sharks did not look that flash against the Blues and we also only won by only 7 points and the Blues are languishing last on the log with one win in all 9 rounds!
Anyway Go Bulls, Go Sharks!!!!! and go Crusaders!
20 Apr 2012, 15:16 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-306:
Verstaan jy Afrikaans? Jy is flippen slim vir ‘n Skaapverkragtertjie.
20 Apr 2012, 15:17 pm
HG goes to the doctor with hearing problems. “Can you describe the symptoms to me?” asked the doctor. “Yes. Homer is a fat yellow lazy baastard and Marge is a skinny bird with big blue hair.”
20 Apr 2012, 15:17 pm
@stew(stew)-262:
so another semi final repeat at loftus then…nice
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-268:
snake eyes…
20 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-307:
you said it…where there’s smoke…there’s HG!
20 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-309:
Jy sal verbaas wees wat hierdie klein kiwi kan doen
I think?
20 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308:
Hey Babe,
We all know HG is not the real thing.
20 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308:
Thanks and we are supporting your team tomorrow too. You and Treehugger are true Sharkies…
20 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308:
Noted.
20 Apr 2012, 15:19 pm
@cane(cane)-314:
Careful how you throw “babe” around
I’m still here
20 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-313:
Man I’m impressed. You Kiwis never cease to amaze me…
20 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-306:
no, they’ve done that a number of games now. built up a lead in the first half and then slowly gave it away through the course of the second half.
cant be a coincidence all the other teams are waking up in the second half.
20 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-313:
Is jy klein?
Ek het gedink jy’s groot!
20 Apr 2012, 15:21 pm
HG has just told me he’s shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said “How can you tell them apart?” He said “Her brother’s got a moustache”.
20 Apr 2012, 15:21 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-319:
What are you complaining about now.
20 Apr 2012, 15:22 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308: @Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308:
20 Apr 2012, 15:23 pm
My alltime favourite gals are:
Dawn
Treehugger
TrippleEEE
RugbyPrincess
SpringbokSarah
Sharksgirl
and
Oh Carol…
20 Apr 2012, 15:23 pm
@cane(cane)-321:
20 Apr 2012, 15:23 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-313:
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah,
Is nothing as it seems,
You are a Bokke in sheeps clothing.
8)
20 Apr 2012, 15:24 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-319:
How about runnig out of steam?
Are they fit enough to kkep the intensity up?
Dont know.
20 Apr 2012, 15:24 pm
considering that the Stormers only scored 17 points on the back of the Reds having 10 missed tackles, eight turnovers and six penalties in the 1st half alone, AC should be concerned as to his teams real ability to attack.
one thing is clear, fleckie is useless.
20 Apr 2012, 15:24 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-320:
Dawn, please.
20 Apr 2012, 15:24 pm
@cane(cane)-314: Thank you Cane and Bill! Cane I’ll support the canes when they are not playing the Sharks another SA team or the Saders
and especially if they play against an Ozzi team 
20 Apr 2012, 15:25 pm
Sorry HG I just couldn’t find a spot for you on my top gals list. Just missed out…
20 Apr 2012, 15:25 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-328: not forgetting injuries to sam lane & ben tapuai in the 1st 10 min of the match.
20 Apr 2012, 15:26 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-329:
Oh i see “Klein”
I get it know, was supposed to be little
20 Apr 2012, 15:27 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-333:
Nie Calvin nie?
20 Apr 2012, 15:28 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-313:
lees jy onse lynstaane jou donner..?..
20 Apr 2012, 15:28 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-308: We don’t think HG is typical of Sharks supporters – most of us would think you are. Most Stormers fans want the Sharks to beat the Anzac teams. On a blog anyone who makes the kind of incendiary idiotic comments that people like HG and Skop make are bound to generate a lot of hostility – its human nature – and does not qualify as an achievement of any description. I’m sure you can relate. Go the Sharks. Do us proud and help peg those pesky kiwi low life swine ( working up a head of steam here) back for all of us.
20 Apr 2012, 15:28 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-311: make it in christchurch this time, the bulls can’t win s(hit in christchurch
20 Apr 2012, 15:29 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-329:
Love it when you beg.
20 Apr 2012, 15:29 pm
@cane(cane)-326:
What do they say if you cant beat them….join them.
But that does not hold up as we always beat them
20 Apr 2012, 15:31 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-316: Don’t be jealous have you ever heard of a menage a trois?
20 Apr 2012, 15:31 pm
And still no Heavens Game?
Notice how convivial things are Okes.
And you lot blame us!
20 Apr 2012, 15:32 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-334:
lol
nope not Calvin
@Dawn(Dawn)-338:
20 Apr 2012, 15:32 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-322:
the stormers, they run out of steam in the second half most times.
little hurricane thinks the reds picked up the game but i think its rather the stormers who dropped theirs.
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-327:
yes, my point exactly.
20 Apr 2012, 15:33 pm
Sharksgirl…
Based on the years of posts from us… I’m pretty sure most Stormers supporters back all South African teams against foreign teams… so yes… we will be backing the Sharks to do this biz tomorrow…
Don’t let us down…!!
20 Apr 2012, 15:34 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-342:
Thank goodness! HG would have been back in a whimp…
20 Apr 2012, 15:34 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-340: hey you saucy, hot-blooded italian Shortie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 Apr 2012, 15:34 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-335:
Just guessing
20 Apr 2012, 15:35 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-330:
Thanks, we need every bit of cosmic support we can get.
20 Apr 2012, 15:35 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-343:
A little hurricane is a windwhirl isn’t it? Maybe a rename there… In Afrikaans it is called a Poep..
20 Apr 2012, 15:36 pm
Well done Stormers!! Good win! Next game easy!!
20 Apr 2012, 15:37 pm
@stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-336: Thank you Stormer, I hope they will, but have little faith, the Sharks are so inconsistent this SR, and I really think poor Plum has run out of ideas
But then the Sharks always tend to win all the games that we think they can’t win and lose those that we think they should win, so who knows! But I’ll stick with them our year will come ….eventually 
20 Apr 2012, 15:39 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-351:
We’ve being saying that for a decade!
Supporters are just that and that is what makes this game such a great one. We hope for the best…
20 Apr 2012, 15:40 pm
Ok all goodnight, need to get my good looks sleep.
20 Apr 2012, 15:41 pm
@ufo(ufo)-344:
more fanatical amongst us back ANY side playing Province
20 Apr 2012, 15:41 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-353:
Cheers mate!
20 Apr 2012, 15:42 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-340:
I never share when it comes to Cane!
20 Apr 2012, 15:42 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-354:
That is what happens to most great teams. Opposition supporters hate them…
Most of us take it as a compliment… Thanks for the motivation
20 Apr 2012, 15:42 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-354:
this we know…!!
20 Apr 2012, 15:43 pm
@ufo(ufo)-344: Hope they deliver tomorrow! Depends which Sharks team pitches tomorrow, but I am worried we have been without a bey and its round 9, and 7 of those games have been on the road 4 in the antipodes and now we face the Chiefs who are looking like real contenders! But The Sharks often win those games where they are written off, lets hope this one is it!
20 Apr 2012, 15:43 pm
@Hurricane(Hurricane)-353:
cheers
20 Apr 2012, 15:43 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-356:
Most alcoholics are the same Dawn. Don’t worry we understand
20 Apr 2012, 15:45 pm
I love it.
HG’s whole weekend is ruined now the Stormers have won. He’s probably crying himself to sleep in what ever hovel he calls home.
And to make you feel even better HG, I will be supporting the Sharks BIG TIME tomorrow.
Go Sharks!!!
20 Apr 2012, 15:46 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-359:
i reckon they’ll fire the big guns tomorrow…
and do us all a favor…!!
stress not…!
20 Apr 2012, 15:46 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-356:
I hope you are referring to Sour Cane.
20 Apr 2012, 15:47 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-346: Hey there Transie Molo unjani?
20 Apr 2012, 15:51 pm
Well done Stormers, talent is there balance is still not right. When you get that right you will be devastating. Its amazing that 2 seasons ago everyone was calling the Stormers pack a bunch of poofters and nothing wrong with the backline, now its the other way around. Pack is dominating but the backline can’t use whatever possession they get effectively. Imagine what it will be like when they get it together.
20 Apr 2012, 15:51 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-331: I agree. She’s just too high maintenance.
20 Apr 2012, 15:53 pm
I just read that the Force players kicked out their coach, because he’s going to the Reds next year… So where is current Reds coach,mCkenzie off to next year?
20 Apr 2012, 15:53 pm
Well played Stormers!
Although they only have themselves to blame for being under pressure again. Without Bekker the line-out was a shambles, and not just for the try! (which we never got to see in slo-mo, I think the Stormers jumper was interefered with).
But the KEY moment for me was, when 17-3 up with a penalty on the 10 meter line, they chose to take the 3 points. That was surely the moment to go for the kill and kick for the corner? Try there and they were one short of the bonus point, besides possibly breaking the Reds spirits.
20 Apr 2012, 15:54 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-365: Molo bella, ngiyaphila
*Okrebe to win tomorrow?
Krebe = isiXhosa for Shark.
20 Apr 2012, 15:54 pm
@cane(cane)-364:
You sour?
Never
20 Apr 2012, 15:55 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-367:
20 Apr 2012, 15:55 pm
Just for the sake of argument, i had a look at HG’s premise. If tries are all important in rugby, then keeping the opposition from scoring them is as important as scoring them yourself. So with that in mind, I did a comparisson. Actual log position with log point vs Nett Tries For vs Tries Against vs Nett point difference. Low and behold, the top six teams….are still the top six teams, just in different order. Yes that includes the brumbies o_0.
Log Log Diff. Diff.
Team Position Points TF VS TA Rank PF vs PA Rank
Stormers 1 33 5 5 42 3
Chiefs 2 31 11 2 54 2
ACT 3 24 3 6 27 5
Otago 4 30 7 4 16 6
Bulls 5 29 15 1 97 1
Canes 6 25 9 3 30 4
Saders 7 23 -1 9 15 7
Sharks 8 22 2 7 -10 9
Reds 9 21 -9 12 -53 13
NSW 10 21 2 8 2 8
Cheetahs 11 21 -4 10 -11 10
Force 12 17 -5 11 -31 11
Rebels 13 14 -17 15 -78 15
Lions 14 14 -9 13 -62 14
Blues 15 12 -9 14 -38 12
So interesting that even though HG (a bit of a cretin btw) promotes tries as all important, and lambastes the Stormers for underperforming, in the nett stakes they are still in the top six and the Sharks arent. I hope the guppies win tomorrow though.
Just thought it would be interesting.
20 Apr 2012, 15:55 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-370:
Naah
That’s crab.
20 Apr 2012, 15:56 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-366: That is the irony of this season, Stormers have always had the lethal back line but never the pack to effectively use that backline, while the Sharks always had the power pack with the puffs in the backline who couldn’t use the ball they received. This year The Sharks and Stormers have swapped, our forward are not firing when we finally have an excellent if young backline! Of course our backline would be more devastating if instead of Ludick at 14 we would actually run Sithole there
20 Apr 2012, 15:56 pm
@Jeez(Jeez)-368: he denies being prepped to take over robbie deans’ job.
20 Apr 2012, 15:56 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-372:
STFU
Before I moer you
Stop implying I’m an alcoholic
That’s fecking libellous
20 Apr 2012, 15:57 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-374: crab = nonkala
20 Apr 2012, 15:59 pm
@I_like_2_argue…(I_like_2_argue…)-373:
Stupid system
Brumbies wtf
20 Apr 2012, 15:59 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-377:
I love it when you talk foreign.
20 Apr 2012, 16:00 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-372:
You are no better than those cretins who keep calling me names here.
Shut it.
20 Apr 2012, 16:00 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-377:
Onthou jy hoe jy my tot in vogende week gemoer het. Call back the past! When Harry met Sally…
20 Apr 2012, 16:01 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-381:
Sal weer grap nie. Belowe! Jammer jong…
20 Apr 2012, 16:02 pm
nie…
20 Apr 2012, 16:03 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-370: Ndiyathemba! I am trying to keep the faith
20 Apr 2012, 16:04 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-381:
All tongue in cheek. No offence.
Outta here and good luck to Sharks and Bulls…
Cheers.
20 Apr 2012, 16:05 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-337:
hehehe
oh transie…
who knows, maybe we will this year.
20 Apr 2012, 16:06 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-386: Cheers Bill!
20 Apr 2012, 16:07 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-372:
I could be wrong…………………………..
But I think CAIN killed Abel.
I am no relation.
I am Cane Dingle. A wholesome contributor to society.
20 Apr 2012, 16:08 pm
@Sharksgirl(Sharksgirl)-385:
20 Apr 2012, 16:09 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-376:
Really…So he hasnt confirmed that he’s taking any other job, but he’s ending his contract with the Reds?
20 Apr 2012, 16:11 pm
@pompies2(pompies2)-213: Look dont get me wrong, I would have loved to see the Stormers score 4 tries tonight. And I would’ve preferred (read they should have) that they score 4 tries against lesser opposition (hurricanes, blues, lions).
But, did you really expected the Stormers to beat the Reds by 4 tries on their home field? A Reds side, who is the current champions, who have (before the Stormers loss) have lost only once in their last 17 games at home?
Me, being a Stormers supporter, are very grateful for the 4 points against the Reds tonight.
We won, on the scoreboard by 10 points. Even if you go by pigsy’s rule book (the try colum), we won by 1. we won. 4 away point in the bag.
20 Apr 2012, 16:12 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-349:
20 Apr 2012, 16:13 pm
@Jeez(Jeez)-391:
he’s going to be director of rugby (or similar) at the reds
20 Apr 2012, 16:15 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-393:
He left about six comments ago
You laugh at something he said 50 comments ago.
Anyhow.
When and who’s the next game
20 Apr 2012, 16:15 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-386:
cheers bill
20 Apr 2012, 16:15 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-377:
Careful Dawn, the KEO prefect is going to be upset.
20 Apr 2012, 16:16 pm
@Stawm(Stawm)-397:
I am the Keo prefect
20 Apr 2012, 16:20 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-398:
Thats what I always though
20 Apr 2012, 16:22 pm
@Jeez(Jeez)-391: he will be DoR @ the Reds…
“I don’t have any thoughts exterior to what’s going on at Queensland Rugby,” McKenzie said.
“You can speculate all you like about that and the motivations and whatever, but in the end we’re trying to put in the best model for Queensland rugby. That’s all I’m concentrating on.
“I’ve had no discussions with the ARU about anything.”
When McKenzie inherited the Reds at the start of 2010 they were a side whose best finish in the previous four years was 12th.
In his first year the Reds went within a whisker of making the finals, finishing fifth on the ladder, and in his second they became the first Australian team to win the title since the Brumbies in 2004,
But McKenzie claimed even he had an expiry date as a head coach, and that he was ready to test himself in new avenues for the betterment of rugby in the state.
“I understand sport well enough to know that my time as head coach of the Reds is going to be finite and it was always going to be finite,” he said.
“You’ve got to keep changing the voices. I can change the players, I can change the staff around me – eventually everyone is going to be changed.
“You want to do that in a way that you can manage it yourself, get the best for yourself and the best for the organisation.
“This is all longer-term stuff. We’re not living in the moment, we’re trying to look two or three years ahead and think what it’s going to look like then and make sure it’s better than it looks now.”
20 Apr 2012, 16:23 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-395:
just focus on the sharks – chiefs at 5:00pm tomorrow cos we need them to do us a favour.
and the bulls – crumbies at 9:00pm cos that when we go tops.
the rest is just noise….
20 Apr 2012, 16:26 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-395:
ja,slow on the uptake.
am also outta here, cheers all and good luck for tomorrow.
.
.
thats for you cane 
) if its better for our teams.
oh and… may the the hurricanes and crusaders draw… or a win for canes (vomit in mouth
20 Apr 2012, 16:31 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-372:
behave Omar.
remember your alter ego.
20 Apr 2012, 16:35 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-403: I see you are on the move on the table…….
20 Apr 2012, 16:37 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-404:
Now that’s a thought I don’t need
Him moving on the table
20 Apr 2012, 16:39 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-405: Superbru
20 Apr 2012, 16:40 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-404:
movin on up……………..
with apologies to M People.
@Dawn(Dawn)-405:
be nice otherwise I will come and lay your table.
20 Apr 2012, 16:41 pm
I know man
What happened to your sense of humour
20 Apr 2012, 16:47 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-408: I’ve been on hold with telkom since 16h03. Sense of humour = long gone.
20 Apr 2012, 16:53 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-409:
that’s over four centuries.
you should complain.
20 Apr 2012, 16:55 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-409:
20 Apr 2012, 17:01 pm
Just got cut off.
I swear I could kill someone.
Specifically “nom-someone or other” from the call centre.
20 Apr 2012, 17:03 pm
Off to go and throw some tin around.
See ya’ll later.
Much later
20 Apr 2012, 17:04 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-412:
holihah.
no wonder they want to be nationalised again.
classic example of a government business.
20 Apr 2012, 17:38 pm
Well done Stormers. World class defense. Solon brilliant. My 1st choice at 11 for Boks.
Hougaard
JP
JdJ
Steyn
Aplon
Steyn
FdP
20 Apr 2012, 17:40 pm
Solon??? = Aplon
20 Apr 2012, 17:55 pm
I have had my cry! What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger!
Going to watch the highlights now.
20 Apr 2012, 17:57 pm
@the artist formerly known as gunther(gunther)-403:
Shell we or shell we not…That is the question. How you buddy…
20 Apr 2012, 18:03 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-415: Hougaard at fullback?
20 Apr 2012, 18:06 pm
@Bagel(Bagel)-419:
Yeah Strange Indeed…
20 Apr 2012, 18:46 pm
Vermuelen is the Stormers most consistent player. Deserves a Bok call up. The English will not like his hard nosed approach in the first 60.
20 Apr 2012, 18:48 pm
Another win for the boys and it was never really in doubt. The only problem is they should have won by a lot more. The Stormers never make their trys look easy like other teams do. At some stage, they are going to have to put teams away in the manner of the Bulls, as horrible as it is to say that, its true and if it doesn’t happen…. it wont happen!
20 Apr 2012, 18:49 pm
Reds never looked like winning it
20 Apr 2012, 18:52 pm
@HongKongSlong(HongKongSlong)-422: Agreed. They’ve developed a winning culture with a deadly defence. Now they need to start running wild.
20 Apr 2012, 19:10 pm
Van den Heever has disappointed. Maybe it is due to Pieterson going solo too often. That combo needs work – then we will thrive.
20 Apr 2012, 19:38 pm
@Bill Reyts(Gumboots)-324:
“….and oh Carol”
I am not use to being an afterthought!!
20 Apr 2012, 19:40 pm
From a Bull supporter, Stormer supporters, don’t worry about another missed bonus point. You won and that is imoortant, your team are looking fantastic, but should probably score more tries. Only 3 possible banana peels left, Bulls at Loftus, Sharks away , and Cheetahs if Stormers have a bad game and Cheetahs a blinder. Stormers will finish first and Bulls possibly 2nd. Which translates to 4th and possible home play off match (4 against 5). Crucial though to be at least 4 points ahead of Bulls before Loftus match end of May. Stormers may clinch the log there, or move down to 2nd. Chiefs will lose against Saders, and hopefuuly against Sharks tomorrow. Stormers don’t play Chiefs.
20 Apr 2012, 20:13 pm
So didn’t I tell you that the Duvenhage – Grant axis was as good as they come.. better than Hougaard – Steyn any day of any week.. also better than McLeod – Lambie any day of any year… and that Duvenhage should be Bok 2IC No. 9 no questions about it.. and rant been fck’d over by Bok management since Smit shafted him for his bumchum sharkievarkie sidekick Butchie boy in 2008…
Now its too late.. better youngsters in the wings.. Goosen is the way ahead.
Also Joe P. good enough for Bok 15, and JdJ the MAN for the Boks at 12 or at 13.. NO question asked.. WAY better than Olivier, and Steyn and JPP and the rest.
AND
Duanne Vermeulen the best No.8 in the country by a thousand miles and more…. better than Alberts, better than Strauss, better than Spies .. best in the west and best in any test…
Not to mention a FAR better choice for Stormers captain than Schalkie the Hulkie any day of ANY week…
Didn’t the Stormers fck ‘history’ one shot in the eye today.. didn’t they JUST.. in front of a baying house full of the Red tide the Stormers stood vas and didn’t budge and though Reds chucked the kitchen sink Stormers came out BAAS in the Brisbane Cauldron where Crusaders got bust in last years final showdown
Stormers WITHOUT
JdV, Bekker, Burger (thank the good Lord above) … twice now Burger has faced Reds as captain and capitulated.. Burger goes AWOL and waddaya know we smack them silly in their own back yard WITHOUT a Burgermeister in SIGHT.. Vermeulen is the MAN that Burger can only dream about…
20 Apr 2012, 20:27 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-13: Lahdi fucken dah .. you were proved WRONG .. ONE MORE TIME … AGAIN …
where that other little dumbfck fakface woodenpoefta sharkievarkie spoonfool of spittle with his farken history ledger.. little red devil arse creep same like You-hoo-hoo.
20 Apr 2012, 20:32 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-429:
Vermeulen is like Alberts with a brain!
20 Apr 2012, 20:34 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-428:
Yip, Vermeulen is the best no 8 in this country for sure- Got more all round skillsand rugby sense than the one dimentional slow legged Alberts, while show ponie Spies has proved many times that he goes awol when the going gets tough.
Re Burger…… AC is on record that the aim is to have Burger back in the team for the home match against the Cheetahs on 12 May. According to him Burger needs no warm up matches, he is the type of player who can walk straight back in the team.
So i guess that is how it will be- probably Kolisi, Burger and Vermeulen or Burger, Elstadt and Vermeulen- but you can bet your house on it that Burger will be back as flanker and captain.
20 Apr 2012, 20:39 pm
Kolisi 10,000 times the player that Burger could currently hope to be…
If Meyer don’t recognize Kolisi ahead of his blue eyed backscratching babies then he’s an utter dunce deluxe….
with Kolisi, Coetsee, Alberts, Vermeulen and Elsadt in the No.7 frame
NO place for Burger,, and Spies should take a distant possible impact off bench position…
20 Apr 2012, 20:41 pm
If Burger comes back and takes center stage f’ng ball carrying dunce deluxe genius in the mid field and takes captaincy away from Vermeulen or JdV we are FUCKED with a CAPITAL F… mark my words…
20 Apr 2012, 20:43 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-431:
Your boys managed a win….!
20 Apr 2012, 20:45 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-433:
Hi Skop
JDV should remain captain….He has gravitas (and he is hot)!!
20 Apr 2012, 20:51 pm
@carol(carol)-434:
Yip, they are on a roll- nothing flash about them but they are the real deal- i just hope your boys do NOT get a bonus point win tomorrow agaist the Brumbies and overtake them on top of the log. But they probably will.
20 Apr 2012, 20:52 pm
@ Bagel
Yes at 15 .
20 Apr 2012, 20:57 pm
ashampoopaloo
Hehe. No such thing!
20 Apr 2012, 20:58 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-436:
If the Bulls do not beat the Brumbies tomorrow I may…….well lets not go there!
They have to beat them.
What am I missing in Cape Town and what is this about ‘chumming’ sharks……it sounds a bit pervy!
20 Apr 2012, 21:01 pm
Your team wins and all the sudden they are all the best.
You rely on emotion and not brains. Dangerous.
20 Apr 2012, 21:01 pm
@carol(carol)-439: Bulls will whip the Brumbies tomorrow by at least 15 points. Bulls will play a high paced high intensity game at altitiude and the Brumbies wont know what hit them, Bonus point victory for the Bulls. Tell me is Stegman back for them?
20 Apr 2012, 21:02 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-433:
I agree that Burger will disrupt the present balance of the side, but to blame him for acting as a first receiver is unfair. I doubt whether he just decides to position himself there. It’s an obvious part of ACs strategy, which is why I’m impressed in Meyers attempt to find out what role each player has been given for his franchise before making a judgement on the players ability.
20 Apr 2012, 21:03 pm
@carol(carol)-435:
JdV is a MAN .. JdV is a CAPTAIN.. JdV got Gravitas.. JdV got BALLS.. JdV got BRAINS.. JdV got quite confidence and leadership skills.. JdV got suave charisma with refs and with players..
In Short JdV is a thousand times the player.. the man.. the captain that Burger could possibly ever hope to be .. or anyone else in SA for now in the captaincy race.. with Vermeulen being next best on the list..
AND if you were a chick looking for a catch JdV is 1,000,000 times the catch that Percy could possibly try and compete with in the ‘hot male’ arena…
20 Apr 2012, 21:08 pm
Last year JdV was done, one trick pony, injury prone, and useless. Now he is Super Storm!
Lmga
20 Apr 2012, 21:09 pm
@David(David)-442:
Burger has disrupted the teams cohesion and balance for a LONG time under all your hero worshiping noses.. Burger is a disruptive influence without any doubt.. he does NOT bring balance or cohesion or creativity into this team.. in contrast he brings the reverse….
AC was not the architect of Burger to midfield ball carry general .. Rassie was.. and Rassie instilled this insanity into both Stormers and Boks game strategy which BACKFIRED like a f’ng cannon with a stopped up turret in the WC.. to the extent where we almost lost vs Wales and Samoa.. and we DID lose to Australia in the 1/4.. with Burger and FdP being the two most prolific contributors to that loss without a goddamn second DOUBT..
20 Apr 2012, 21:10 pm
@carol(carol)-439:
Do not bring this issue up here as skoppy is around and he is more dangerous than any lurking great white can ever be
He is a nice bloke though.
Chumming is to lure sharks by throwing a mixture of fish partsand blood in the water and as sharks have a very keen sense of smel they will be around in a flash most of the times.
20 Apr 2012, 21:11 pm
Hougaard
JP
JdJ
Steyn
Aplon
Steyn
Du Preez(C)
Beast
Bismark
Coenie
Etzebeth
Kruger
Brussow
Burger
Spies
Chiliboy
Greyling
Bekker
Alberts
Goosen
Lambie
Habana
20 Apr 2012, 21:13 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-444:
Keep laughing gatskop .. we skopped your gat once under JdV this year already.. we do it again.. just wait and see.. If burger is cappy next time we play you.. then its open card proximity where anything can happen and usually does with burger fckng up the works…as proven in big game showdowns ENDLESSLY..
JdV is the most viable candidate for Bok captaincy by a LONG shot.. WAY better than Spies the awol papbroek rear guard chicken who leads a team by following from the goddamn rear…
even your wide awake Bulls supporters who know a lot about rugby agree with me…
read this clear rugby kenners remarks on JdV at least some Bulls supporters know something about rugby not just blue eyed dumb fck inadequacy.. @Bullstakenoprisoners(Bullstakenoprisoners)-427:
20 Apr 2012, 21:15 pm
Burger burger burger!
gdam that boys good.
20 Apr 2012, 21:15 pm
Or
Hougaard
Aplon
JP
Steyn
Habana
Steyn
FdP
20 Apr 2012, 21:18 pm
Gatskop? Lol. Disagree groot seun.
20 Apr 2012, 21:21 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-441:
another sharkievarkie bananaboy last bastion hopes and dreams siding with the blue suede shoes enemy.. well whatsoever is new around these parts?… Bulls will side with Sharks and Sharks will side with Bulls.. and ALL will side with whoever when it comes to Stormers on the horizon.. because Stormers hold the fear induced mania that threatens their so called arse creep bumchum legionary ‘supremacy’ in the SA rugby landscape..
Stormers fck BOTH Sharks and Bulls into oblivion this year.. as long as they leave Schalk off the captaincy carousel and use him purely as an impact off bench and do NOT fck around with the balance created by Vermeulen at back with Kolisi and Elstadt and Carr putting in the action from the side of scrum…and Koster at 8 when required off bench.
20 Apr 2012, 21:22 pm
Seriously though, I like JdV. Always have. Great organizer in defense. Problem is he is injury prone, just like Schalk and Bekker. Not suits le for Bok captaincy.
20 Apr 2012, 21:24 pm
Skop #452
That is hogwash. Supporters only side with others as long as it suits them
20 Apr 2012, 21:26 pm
@cab(cab)-449: bring him back and we are toast..
Have you NOT been witness to Stormers SUDDEN reincarnation of supremacy they held in the good old days when loose forwards played as a committed combination of team ethic.. and NOT your blue eyed fckng wonder boy fcking up the works…
Burger could do squat against Bulls.. Reds.. Crusaders 2 years on the trot in recent years.. soon as he is GONE.. Stormers are suddenly putting it together like NEVER before… we WIN the close encounters when Burger is NOT there.. when he’s on the field calling the shots in close encounter affairs.. we ALWAYS come off 2nd best.. where you BEEN the past how many years or you STILL can’t see sh’t for toffee apples YET??
20 Apr 2012, 21:26 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-452: Now you are talking bullshit , I;ve been touting how good the Stormers have been looking for 2 years, you just seem to have a block when it comes to a Sharks supporter having a good opinion about any team other than the Bulls. The Bulls are a damn good franchise and what they have done with a relatively new side is amazing , but they haven’t hit the road yet. I luv the Sharks but not more than the game of rugby itself.
20 Apr 2012, 21:32 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-441:
Stegman is NOT back for them, not even on the bench!
I like the sound of Bulls whipping Brumbies…..Those ‘ponies’ need some disipline!
How are you doing btw?
20 Apr 2012, 21:33 pm
very well thanks, hows your running and hows the Cotswolds?
20 Apr 2012, 21:33 pm
JdV is best candidate for Bok captaincy under current situation… Meyer does NOT need to bring some dead and buried f’ng has been dinosaur out of extinction to be his captain when he has the crux of leadership ingenuity that JdV can muster in a team.. WAY WAY better than Spies or Daniel or Strauss or Strauss or FdP or ANY one else in SA rugby right now…
And Vermeulen would get my vote as 2IC .. hard nut hardegat do or die hero soldier in the Juan Smith mold that will put the likes of Spies and even Alberts to shame….
JdV should have been PdV’s captain all the last 4 years and how much you wanna bet we would have CREAMED the opposition without J. Smit fcking up the goddamn works.. Matfield not as good a captain as JdV.. JdV should have captained Boks a LONG time ago.. him or Juan Smith.. neither Matfield OR Smit since 2008.
and Definitely NOT Burger or FdP.. NEVER in a thousand years…
20 Apr 2012, 21:35 pm
Yeah Schalk not what he once was, but how can you call yourself a stormers and bok supporter?
If there is one bugger in south Africa who gives 100% in every single game it’s schalk burger – stormers pack looking shithot with all the new winderboys blowing fire outa theirass but burger been doing out while they winning, while they losing, year after year – gdam legend! that is guts personified.
20 Apr 2012, 21:37 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-455:
I have to say my last memory of Schalk Burger on a rugby field before he was injured was that fantastic offload of him that sent Aplon away for his try against the Hurricanes. it can only be good to have him back, perhaps not as a captain, but surely as part of the 22 at least.
20 Apr 2012, 21:39 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-443:
I stood next to a cardboard cut out of JDV in Durban,it was amazing he was flipping huge, that was the closest that I have got to the Stormer Skipper.
But the Percy v JDV debate….. Who won the RWC for SA ?
20 Apr 2012, 21:40 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-461:
My last memory of Schalk is me thinking…..
“Has that bloke not heard of hair conditioner”!!
He is so ‘fly away’!
20 Apr 2012, 21:44 pm
Burger gives 100% of himself and in so doing he fcks the team to hell’ Burger fck’d Boks out the Wc with the Rassie f’ng brainwave of Burger the goddamn hero useless hopeless ball carrying moron who ran the entire game long INTO the opposition and TURNED over on the deck.. and the only ONE to gift wrap the Wallabies the only try of the game.
Since when do I have to be a f’ng moron Burger disciple to be a Bok’s or Stormers supporter.. is same as saying I must be a f’ng John Smit disciple before I’m a Bok supporter…??
Burger fck’s Both Stormers and Boks to hell… I do NOT want him to come stuff up the works as he does every time.. if it aint eye gauging or losing the ball on the ground in front of our posts its fcking up the balance in the team or carrying the ball at first receiver where he IS NOT WELCOME..!!
Burger must stay AWAY from captaincy and first receiver ball carrier and Both Boks and Stormers will be one hell of a long way further better off….
20 Apr 2012, 21:45 pm
@bananaboy(bananaboy)-458:
All good here thank you. Enjoying my running (when injuries allow)!! lol
The Cotswolds are glorious though thank you, are you planning to visit again? I often think of you when I drive past the little shop in Burford!!
20 Apr 2012, 21:46 pm
@carol(carol)-462:
Skoppy never compared Jean to Percy as a rugby player.
He only said that Jean is a thousand times a better catch for a “chick”.
My wife agrees with Skoppy.
20 Apr 2012, 21:46 pm
So glad HM is coach. Such peace of mind.
20 Apr 2012, 21:47 pm
Well done stormers !!!!
20 Apr 2012, 21:48 pm
@carol(carol)-463:
Dont be like that now.
Poor Schalk is losing his hair, only got a few longish “slings” left.
I guess if that happens to a bloke, the last thing he worries about is hair conditioner.
20 Apr 2012, 21:49 pm
Well done stormers !!!! The stormers march on
20 Apr 2012, 21:50 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-466:
Your wife must prefer brains to brawn!! lol
20 Apr 2012, 21:51 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-467: HM is proving to be a bloody chicken sh’t bang broek.. running like a cowardly baby up Matfield and FdP’s overrated hero worshiped useless dead beat klaar gelag backsides…
If Meyer plays those two f’ng has been’s and gets whipped by England he should get FIRED fior being a cowardly chicken arsed bang broek with so much talent at his beck and call and he goes for his f’ng has been insurance policies of Matfield and FdP I hope he f’ng CHOKES on them both !!
20 Apr 2012, 21:53 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-467:
if it was not for the “sounds” he is making about bringing back all the has beens i would agree with you re the peace of mind.
He got the pedigree and seems to know a lot about motivating people.
lets see if he can bring a more diversified group of people together to function as a team- somehow i think he might eventually.
20 Apr 2012, 21:53 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-466:
To give Skop his due (and your wife) perhaps conversation would be better with Jean, but Percy is terribly endearing and sort of cute!
However he has not taken me up on my offer of meeting for beer on my last two visits to CT.
I am actually quite pi$$ed off with him to be honest!!
20 Apr 2012, 21:53 pm
@carol(carol)-471:
Percy got no brawn.. where you see Percy with brawn?.. JdV beats Percy hands down in BOTH brains and brawn.. and in simple human manly good looks… you gotta have cataracts over your eyes if you can’t see the difference in quality of both brains and brawn.. and simply manly good looks between Percy and JdV…
20 Apr 2012, 21:55 pm
@carol(carol)-471:
I have to do supper, but will look with interest at your replies!
Perhaps we can ‘chat’ later
20 Apr 2012, 21:55 pm
I dunno WTF possesses them to use schalk as a ballcarrier – that is not what he should be doing -schalk should actually go to another province, stormers pack too much talent – schalk still got alot left I reckon and might even put some fire in some other teams. Dmfk disloyal poeslike koos doos.
20 Apr 2012, 21:55 pm
@carol(carol)-471:
She likes both.
20 Apr 2012, 21:56 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-475:
Heavens Skop, I have seen him topless???
Heart stopping (except the Tasmin tattoo)!!
20 Apr 2012, 21:57 pm
HM will change SA rugby forever….well at least until another loser takes charge and info his work.
The alue of the structures he will put in place will only be realized in a few years time.
What I cannot understand is how you among others simply can’t accept that he is the coach and allow him to do the job. No one, and I mean no one, knows the players as well as he does.
20 Apr 2012, 21:58 pm
@carol(carol)-474:
Yeah, like nearly crashing into Percy’s front gate in Camps Bay trying to see whether he is around instead of concentrating on the road ahead of you.
20 Apr 2012, 21:59 pm
Robzim
Do you rate Juan Smith? Or did you rate Os?
20 Apr 2012, 22:01 pm
@ Skoppy i see you are again covering yourself in glory,i never swaw the game so i cannot comment on the game but well done your team won,but there is one thing i will agree with you on the stormers are a better team without schalk burger.
20 Apr 2012, 22:03 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-475:
Tell her Skoppy.
The most manly thing Percy has ever done is to take up surfing.
he will Hever be the next jonothan paarman but he can at least handle the gentle waves at muizenberg, you have to give him credit for that.
20 Apr 2012, 22:03 pm
Yessus what we talking now conditioner, Percivals pecs and donkeys timotei?
20 Apr 2012, 22:03 pm
@cab(cab)-477: you and your fck’d up ‘loyalty” is EXACTLY what fckd PdV out the WC and fck’d his chances.. by being LOYAL to idiots who could not produce when it counted..
Let the other franchises have Burger.. see exactly where he ‘fits’ in with them.. see if he makes the grade as center stage ball carrying f’ng hero at Sharks or Bulls or Cheetahs or Lions for that matter…
Loyalty ?? pffft go get a dog.. if that’s wtf you looking for
the sad fact is that AC is so fck’d in the head with this same ‘loyalty’ to Burger because of his so called invincibility and hero status ability as a leader and a do or die captain courageous… same as Rassie was fck’d in the head by such insanity.. that he will re instate Burger as captain and drop JdV and Vermeulen in the pecking order… and in so doing will fck up Stormers chances in this competition EXACTLY as happened both in 2010 and 2011…
20 Apr 2012, 22:06 pm
Stormers need burger back asap !! Alstead not the player he use to be.making to many enforced errors
20 Apr 2012, 22:08 pm
@Narutokun(Narutokun)-487: Elstadt is doing a good job. Burger can play off the bench in the second half.
20 Apr 2012, 22:08 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-482:
At his best Juan was world class.
Nearly as good as Andre Venter.
I never liked Os- he pissed me off the day he “quitted’ against the AB’s
He was a good all rounder – quite athletic- but he never really dominated in the scrums against top class opposition.
20 Apr 2012, 22:09 pm
@carol(carol)-479: I nearly said too much on here regarding Tasmin till I quickly realized Percy is part of the Keo clan so I better shut up about the rest of what I was gonna say…
But Tasmin is one goddess of a woman … and like I said.. I better not say any more than that.
20 Apr 2012, 22:09 pm
Vermeulen is no captain for crying out loud! He is 4th in line currently for Stormers. He captains one game against an injury ridden Reds team and now he is a captain? He ran out first and bumbled his way through 5 sentences. Did no captaincy.
20 Apr 2012, 22:11 pm
U a dmfk disloyal twatfaced *** running burger down the whole time – everyone knows the situation at province with respect to the talent edging burger out – WTF it’s you that’s coached then 6 straight wins – they are currently being coached by a coach I’ve said us **** and a jw disciple and all the structures were pit in place by another coach u been running down – Erasmus.
U dmfk ignoramus would still be phaying piefdastyle brokeback rugby were it not for these coaches u constantly decrying – u honestly think they dunno that it’s going to be hard to acvomadate scalk?
20 Apr 2012, 22:13 pm
Burger nowhere NEAR to Elstadt in terms of grunt and enforcer hard nosed hard arse… Burger like a baby puppy next to Elstadt.. Stormers need Elstadt FAR more than they need Burger.. by a billion miles…
The White Boks was built on 2 players.. and they were NOT Burger and Smit.. they were Juan Smith and Bakkies Botha.. they were the fulcrum heart of the Boks center core… neither Burger or Smit were must haves for Boks to be successful in preceding years,., but Botha and Smith were…
20 Apr 2012, 22:13 pm
Robzim
What I actually meant was this:
Juan is 30 odd and hasn’t played a minute in more than a year. Yet most will include him in their Bok team today if it is announced he is fit again. Yet Matfield is out for 7 months and it is unthinkable for him to play again?
Os retired and returned to win his second WC.
20 Apr 2012, 22:14 pm
@cab(cab)-492: get fck’d c’ntarse you dunno fckall about loyalty you dumbfck moronic little arsecreep hero worshiping twat…
20 Apr 2012, 22:15 pm
Useless spellchecker on this phone
20 Apr 2012, 22:15 pm
@cab(cab)-485:
Sorry, I lowered the tone for a while!
20 Apr 2012, 22:16 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-494: neither Smith nor Matfield should go NEAR a Bok team today.. same as FdP they are dead and buried has been’s.. just like Burger… the entire rigmarole collective of them…
20 Apr 2012, 22:18 pm
U as thick as a brick and fkd in the head.
20 Apr 2012, 22:18 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-494: Juan is on a rehabilitation programmes. Matfield retired and his condition – partly due to diet and partly to do with the exercise regime he currently follows – is not suitable to take to the field. The two cannot be compared.
20 Apr 2012, 22:20 pm
497, Carol
no worries – it’s def going to get lowered now
20 Apr 2012, 22:20 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-491: Did you WATCH the game today?.. I guarantee your Bulls and Sharks would have lost in Brisbane.. Vermeulen stood HEAD and SHOULDERS like a TROJAN on the battle field… something your piffle arsed little mommy’s boytjie Spies would run a mile away from tearing into the opposition liker a LEADER from the FRONT.. as Vermeulen did today..
You can’t see sh’t about this game your eyes are befuddled by hero worshiped balderdash idiocy and blue eyed cataracts covering them…
20 Apr 2012, 22:20 pm
Ashampoopaloo
Doubt whether Vic will return in any case. Smith I think is done too (pity). Fourie will be captain for 2 years. Hougaard to become the Christian Cullen at 15.
20 Apr 2012, 22:21 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-481:
Yep I had done my homework, well I could not fly all over to CT and not know where Percy lived!
You live there and had no idea where he lived until I pointed it out to you! I don’t think he was home tho!
20 Apr 2012, 22:24 pm
Ashampoopaloo
I did, and Reds were poor. Aplon and Etzebeth was brilliant, Elstadt good too. Vermeulen was okay, but remember what Spies did against the Reds? MOM if I remember ?
And please stop using Bulls and Sharks in SA
E breath! We are enemies as much as any other SA teams
20 Apr 2012, 22:24 pm
Job done.
Didn’t catch the whole game. Only the important bits.
20 Apr 2012, 22:24 pm
Duane was huge.
Spies has been playing very very well in this campaign though too
20 Apr 2012, 22:27 pm
Michael
Conditioning program? And you honestly think that is like playing? Rules have changed, tempo has changed…..
20 Apr 2012, 22:27 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-503: Fourie is a hopeless captain he don’t have the head or the courage for captaincy.. it will be a HUGE mistake if Meyer makes FdP captain.. and like I said,., if he does.. and Boks LOSE under FdP or Matfield against England.. then Meyer better be bold and brave enough to learn the hard lesson that he fck’d up BIG for chickening out and turning to some overrated hero worshiped has been’s instead of those who are putting in the hard yards week in and weeek out on the S15 stage…
In fact Meyer should get his gat skopped big time if he fails under FdP or Matfield.. because then his cowardly conservative insecurity will have killed off the Boks chances for taking the lead from the front with a new breed of player and ideology from day one…
20 Apr 2012, 22:28 pm
@Heavens Game(Heavens Game)-8:
Stop smoking that kak, man. Come off that high.
Sharks have another massive game tomorrow. Come to think of it. Every game now is a massive game for the Sharks.
20 Apr 2012, 22:29 pm
Ashampoopaloo
Okay, whatever you say. Agree to disagree. But don’t come sing the Bok praises in a year or two.
20 Apr 2012, 22:33 pm
Spies has upped his game since taking captaincy.. he has had to because that what captaincy demands of one.. But nowhere NEAR to Vermeulen’s courage and strength and driving leadership from the front is Spies.. the only one that comes near to that in SA rugby is Alberts.. though I reckon Vermeulen is a far better schooled and knowledgable No.8 than him..
Vermeulen at 8
Alberts or Elstadt at 7,
Brussow at 6
Kolisi or Coetsee
(or at a far fetched push Spies) off bench
fck me the opposition will Kaaaaak big time with a capital K…
nobody needs Burger or anyone else with a loose trio like that…
20 Apr 2012, 22:35 pm
Michael
And my guy says Juan will play a game or 5 and be out again
20 Apr 2012, 22:38 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-511: sing the Bok praises under Matfield or FdP or Smit or Burger… not a chance.. won’t happen.. you can rest your bottom dollar on that…
I will always be a Bok supporter but I will NOT get bullshitted by cowardly chickenarsed retrograded actions by chickensh’t coaches who are too afraid to bust forth and go for broke and make hay while the sun shines brightly in the heavens…
I would have backed Matfield as captain the past two years ahead of Smit ANY DAY.. but not now… like so much else that ship has LONG PAST GONE and sailed away…
20 Apr 2012, 22:39 pm
great victory for the stormers and well deserved.currently the best saffa team.idon’t believe one bulls player will make it into the stormers team ….maybe hougaardt on the bench.
20 Apr 2012, 22:39 pm
Bok loosies in a squad
Brussow
Stander
Alberts
Elstadt
Spies
Vermeulen
My choice
20 Apr 2012, 22:41 pm
Ag Burger already done eveything there is to be done on the world stage and he’s not even 30 – he probably now just likes to braai the chicken and fry the lamb. He probably just sits back and has some more bees biltong with some rooiwyn – heerlik.
20 Apr 2012, 22:43 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-516:
And no Stegmann!
Thank god for small mercies.
20 Apr 2012, 22:46 pm
@cab(cab)-517: that supposed to be some kind of challenge or bait or what?? If he done everything bully for him.. let him re run the video tapes and get a hard on at his immortality…
Burger is not in the running his time has come and gone.. just like Matfield, Smith, Botha, Smit, FdP, Fourie they are ALL past tense hero’s… waiting for Godot to come and take their hand to the heavenly chariot that gonna take them to the lofty heights of hero worshiped heaven some day….
Move OVER and let the young hard edged manne show the way…
AB’s are gonna ax their aging stars and so should we.. but No we hero worship these schmucks like they some tin foil gods we keep obeisance too on our mantle piece…
20 Apr 2012, 22:46 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-513: Maybe, maybe not. Either way, future injuries doesn’t distract from the facts
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-516: Replace Stander with Kolisi and we’d agree.
Watching the evolution of the Bok squad over the course of this year will be fasciinating.
20 Apr 2012, 22:48 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-516: No Burger.. I think you even surprised yourself…
and No Coetsee or Kolisi.. but you include Stander…
he got done by Kolisi once this year.. wait till the re run.. he’ll get done by him again.
20 Apr 2012, 22:48 pm
IAAS
Go look at all my teams and tell me I’m provincialistic.
20 Apr 2012, 22:49 pm
517 ashampoopa
ai sies man, where are your goddamn manners?
20 Apr 2012, 22:50 pm
@cab(cab)-517:
cabby
20 Apr 2012, 22:51 pm
Ashampoola
Unlike you I look at the player, not the jersey. Why not select the whole Stormer team and stop wasting everyone’s time.
No doubt Kolisi will become a Bok, but so will Stander and Botha. Coetzee too.
All in good time.
20 Apr 2012, 22:52 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-521: If one goes by points scored by players FL? Coetzee is by far our most productive loosie right now
20 Apr 2012, 22:52 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-524: another carnivorous barbarian thinking biltong and braaivleis is smaaklik funny.. wait till its your turn on the spit,… see how funny it is then.
@cab(cab)-523: I ain’t at 517.. you must have confused me with yourself or somebody else..
20 Apr 2012, 22:53 pm
And WTF is godot? cut out the fairy tale horseshit – next think we given another gdam lecture on Xmas or Easter!
20 Apr 2012, 22:53 pm
Michael
Are you a Stormer?
Can one openminded person please come blog here!
20 Apr 2012, 22:54 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-527: i see you still show ur 5 year old maturity, keep going old man, ur pathetic
20 Apr 2012, 22:54 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-529: need you ask??
20 Apr 2012, 22:54 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-525: check my loosie contingent.. they are not all Stormers
best loosies in the country for horses for courses program are
Vermeulen / Spies
Alberts / Elstadt / Coetsee
Brussow / Kolisi
Thats it
Stander gets close.. but no cigar I’m afraid to say.
20 Apr 2012, 22:55 pm
@cab(cab)-523: Maaners is not something one would link skopclown with cabby
20 Apr 2012, 22:56 pm
God help us all – another gdam lecture in enlightenment on some pagan ritual when all anyone cares about is whether the next course flies, crawls, gallops or runs. And I ain’t talking your magic mushrooms poesface.
20 Apr 2012, 22:57 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-529: Stander is good, very good, but he is really a number 7. There needs to be a backup 6 to Brussouw in the mix. Hence why I pick Kolisi and not Stander.
Injury to Alberts and in comes Stander.
You say you look at players not teams, so why not extend that curtousy to others.
20 Apr 2012, 22:57 pm
and for the deceent stormers supporters????? well done on todays victory, stormers playing with a lot of heart and brilliantly so
20 Apr 2012, 22:57 pm
Hello Sharky
what u reckon going to happen v chiefs?
20 Apr 2012, 22:57 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-533: maaners= manners
20 Apr 2012, 22:58 pm
As I said, why not pick all these guys for the Boks.
Aplon
Habana
JdJ
JdV
Grant
Duvenhage
Verneulen
Elstadt
Kolisi
Etzebeth
Bekker
Gemmer
All run-on
20 Apr 2012, 22:58 pm
@cab(cab)-537: hiyas cabby, eish heart says Sharks , but ya im very worried about tomorrows match, Chiefs are a very good team this year
20 Apr 2012, 23:00 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-530: its only barbarian carnivores who act like 5 year olds and think they so mature… I gave you a perfect scenario to consider.. wait till its your arse getting spit roasted on the fire.. see how funny it sound then..
and that isn’t a challenge to your maturity.. but to your humanity.. lets see how mature you go about such an advanced concern for others state of well being we get to consider on the flip side of the conscious awareness of humane maturity
20 Apr 2012, 23:00 pm
@Michael(mikeybrass)-535: for over all loose forward play Coetzee is far ahead as per the ratings on how a player is judged in performance to any other loose forward in SA
20 Apr 2012, 23:00 pm
540 SL
yes think it’s going to be close – helluva good team chiefs – they could do anyone actually this year.
20 Apr 2012, 23:01 pm
Michael
And you say Kolisi is more a Brussow type player? In what way?
20 Apr 2012, 23:03 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-541: blah bklah blah , same old drivel , go find something usefull to do in life dude, petty little outbursts on the net is not becomming of a so called man ur age” around 65 right???
20 Apr 2012, 23:05 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-544
errick MInnie is probably the player that comes close to Brussouw’s style of play , no other
20 Apr 2012, 23:05 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-539: Nope I didn’t pick them all
My Bok team today go something like this
F. Steyn
JPP
JdV (c)
JdJ
Aplon
Goosen
Hougaard
Vermeulen
Alberts
Brussow
Kruger
Etsebeth
Malherbe
Bismark
Greyling
Steenkamp. Chili, (Bekker / Elstadt), (Kolisi / Coetsee / Spies), Duvenhage, (Ebersohn / Taute / Pietersen), Lambie
20 Apr 2012, 23:06 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-522:
Winding you up.
My run-on loosies would be:
8 Vermeulen – been saying it for a while and he’s having another good season.
7 Alberts – still think he’s the one to take Juan’s jersey
6 Brussouw – an important dynamic on the field particularly in tanden with Bissie.
Spies to speed up the game in the last half hour. I just question his abilities to read a game as an 8th man.
20 Apr 2012, 23:08 pm
@cab(cab)-543: Yeah Cab , but i know if the Sharks get it right, specially in DBN they can beat the Chiefs , but not going to be easy at all, what i find strange is that every match so far that the Sharks play against a KIWI team has, KIWI ref?? Hopefully tomorrows match wont be marred by rubbish reffing as has been the case so far this year
20 Apr 2012, 23:08 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-545: blah blah blah yourself domkopff .. you the arsehole laughing at dumbfck idiotic stupidity and then calling other people immature… seems you got no clue about what maturity actually is.
20 Apr 2012, 23:09 pm
In your bloody faces you Stormer-hating Sharks and Bulls supporters!!!Why don’t you f0off and take that Cape Crusader supporters with you….well at least they only support one team unlike you k unts.
20 Apr 2012, 23:10 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-548: although a very good loose trio , Alberts has just come back from injury and is a long way off form right now
20 Apr 2012, 23:10 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-536:
Hope you referring to me. Long time. ^5.
20 Apr 2012, 23:10 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-547:
I probably chuck Engelbrecht in there somewhere as a bolter back liner ahead of Taute / Ebersohn / Pietersen
20 Apr 2012, 23:11 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-551: i guess you also arouond 5 years old?? only Knut here is you moron
20 Apr 2012, 23:12 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-553: nope wasnt referring to you lol
20 Apr 2012, 23:13 pm
549 SL,
yep sharks def got the ability to pull it out tge bag but they are missing Beast IMO – chiefs side just too good unless homecrowd can sway it and sharks play out there socks. Should be a great game
20 Apr 2012, 23:13 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-550: sober up old man, all i have to do is look at ur drivel and see what it’s like to be 5 years old again
20 Apr 2012, 23:15 pm
@cab(cab)-557: Yup missing Beast big time, and all this BS about other looseheads ahead of the Beast by some in here?? total rubbish , Beast will be back with a vengance , mark my words
Also not having a fit genuine 5 lock is hurting the Sharks too
20 Apr 2012, 23:15 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-552:
It’s not the quickest trio around. But Vermeulen and Alberts are both adept at either 7 or 8 and know the short cuts around the field. And both know how to read a game and anticipate situations. Spies imo still has to get there.
20 Apr 2012, 23:16 pm
Hopefully the guppies can do the Stormers a favour by beating the Chiefs,but i seriously doubt it.
20 Apr 2012, 23:16 pm
IAAS
Good trio.
20 Apr 2012, 23:17 pm
@cab(cab)-557: Also the departure of a certain Smit is leaving its mark on Sharks rugby, that void is not easily filled
20 Apr 2012, 23:18 pm
559 SL yes exactly and about the lock
20 Apr 2012, 23:18 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-560: i agree its a very good trio mate, my concern is Alberts is not fully over his injury, thus the missed tackles stats re him, we all know what he is capable of ,
20 Apr 2012, 23:20 pm
The Stormers should seriously push on next week for that five pointer.Bonus points might be crucial at the end of the day if we want to end on top of the pile.Chiefs and Crusaders only serious candidates to stop us in that regard.
20 Apr 2012, 23:20 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-558: its schmucks the likes of you and this cabcnt who think they are so advanced and mature.. meanwhile you still a baby in a pram if you seriously wanna consider how Old and mature you dumbfck idiots like to think you are… you are a wee little kindergarten baby in life you dumbfck schmuckarse.. problem is you still haven’t realize it yet… carry on with giggling like a fckng two year old about biltong and braaivleis en hoender wat so smaaklik is dit stink..
20 Apr 2012, 23:21 pm
Also those always trashing JW?? well if my eyes aint deceiving me?? aint the Brumbies on top of the Aussie section???
And in a short space of time he is making them a force again, yes i think Bulls will whip them tomorrow , but that Brumbies team will get better and better as the self belief comes through
20 Apr 2012, 23:22 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-567: I REST MY CASE
20 Apr 2012, 23:23 pm
Vermeulen at 8
Elstadt / Coetsee / Kolisi 7
Brussow 6
Alberts / Spies to fight it out for the bench spot depending on whether you looking for speed or power off bench.
20 Apr 2012, 23:23 pm
Cabby im off mate , chat tomorrow , good night everyone
20 Apr 2012, 23:24 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-569: which case you resting schmuckaroo.. try italics with the bold font.. it may rest your case even further what a dumb barbarian carnivore you actually are…
20 Apr 2012, 23:26 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-565: Expect Alberts to continue on his great form….of missing tackles.He is the most overrated player in super rugby and the stats prove it.
20 Apr 2012, 23:29 pm
Ho ho ho ashatapoopoo – such a jovial fella and fkn humble too.
Ok so now if u got a problem with frying the hoender – what about the hoenders eiers? Is it ok for an immature non-Hunan, unlike your vainglorious self, too eat tge hoenders eiers (not the balls I gave that up for lent)?
20 Apr 2012, 23:29 pm
@Sharks_Lover. I am afraid that I have only managed to catch one Sharks match so far which was last week’s loss. I didn’t like what I saw from most of the players, back and forwards. Good luck for tomorrow. I have a feeling the Chiefs will take it but will loved to be proven wrong.
I cannot offer an opinion on Coetzee; one piss-poor match doesn’t a player make or break imo. I’m not going to have the opportunity to watch tomorrow’s match either which is a shame.
Essentially, I left him out because I have nothing on which to base my view on either way.
I prefer Kolisi to Stander ’cause Stander is a true 7 – a makeshift 6 filling in – whereas Kolisi plays the Stormers’ role of 6 to perfection. Yes people can find fault with this argument but it’s my view and I’m sticking to it; it is not about a like-for-like Brussouw replacement imo, which makes K’s question redundant. It’s about what fits the team dynamic best.
20 Apr 2012, 23:30 pm
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-573: The poor guy has Plum as a coach. What do you expect.
20 Apr 2012, 23:30 pm
Night Sharks Lover, good luck to the sharks.
20 Apr 2012, 23:32 pm
these arseholes try their luck giggling at some stupefied joke about gobbling like a turkey burnt to a cinder on the braai.. and they come off second best.. then they turn tail and run duck for cover when they find out the f’ing joke is actually on THEM
Jake White little charade gonna burst just like it did in 2006 … useless is as useless does.. watch his quick new broom sweep clean charade at Brumbies come tumbling down into dust just like it did till Eddy the rattle snake turned his fck’d up fortunes around..
20 Apr 2012, 23:34 pm
I’m not talking turkey, I’m talking hoender
20 Apr 2012, 23:34 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-570:
Skop, just check your post #547. I was about to compliment you on the loose trio. Same as mine.
Now you’ve just dropped Alberts to the bench! What’s happening?
20 Apr 2012, 23:35 pm
hoenders eiers are a no no just like human eiers they were originally destined to become hoenders or humans depending which eier you wanna chow… only rattle snakes and lizards eat eiers.. no other creature.. except human beings..
20 Apr 2012, 23:37 pm
U a fk up of note, duped by all the dogma, fkn eiers I ask u? U must learn to think for yourself, open your eyes, even better open your mind.
20 Apr 2012, 23:39 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-580: Vermeulen and Alberts in same trio is too much sameness not enough balance.. need some agility and speed along with the power game.. which would ideally come from Coetsee or Kolisi .. and with either Alberts or Spies off bench depending you want power or speed off bench.. Elstatd is also more power and clean out aggression and less agility.. so one has to balance up what you aiming at against a particular opponent.. power or speed or a balance of both…
20 Apr 2012, 23:40 pm
Human eiers WTF kind of **** u talking.
20 Apr 2012, 23:42 pm
@cab(cab)-582: you dunno fckall about nothing you baby arsed moron.. life to you is one closed off sealed up box.. you call yourself a scientist.. you are NOTHING of the sort.. you dunno science from tiddlywinky in the laboratory.. all you know is mathematical fcking hoaxes.. but science you dunno from fckall.. same as you dunno what life is about from nothing you dumb stupefied idiotic moronic dead ended closed minded moron of note…
20 Apr 2012, 23:45 pm
I know tiddlywinks – WTF is a mathematical hoax? Christus only think u know about mathematics is how many bricks in the wall ekse..
20 Apr 2012, 23:45 pm
Another one-eyed priek this stormerforlife. No objectivity, no humility
20 Apr 2012, 23:48 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-587:
Think it’s a new kid on the block.
20 Apr 2012, 23:52 pm
bricks and mathematics amount to same bullshit.. they just building blocks to house concepts and ideas or protect and shelter people from nature..
step out your closed little dumbfck world of materialist make believe and find out wtf life is actually about… I doubt you have the courage to do that you cling so tight to your umbilical chord called mathematics or pseudo science..
you the kind of closed minded dunce that needs a stiff cap of California sunshine to open up your emaciated dead end closed minded eyesight… else a visit to a monastical institution where the monks can clean out that fck’d up dead end brain and feed you a dose of LIFE… goddamn..
20 Apr 2012, 23:55 pm
I thought life was about eating the hoender and turkey if u lucky with some sous.
How the fk does an anti-abortionist preach about tolerance and openmindedness – u watchatutus are so caught up in retrograde dogma that u positively stoneage backward.
20 Apr 2012, 23:59 pm
Ag please give me your California sunshine – I pop it like a smartie – and that old Jedi mindfk u newagers always doing has left your dmfkop positively numb – think man think – use your own goddamn powers of godgiven reason goddamn
21 Apr 2012, 00:01 am
wtf abortion got to do with tolerance and open mindedness.. you wanna bring political wrangling about whatever to accept abortion as a humane concept of life or what you aiming at?? abortion .. like eating eggs is killing life… one or two stages of a higher degree of killing than the other.. but killing it is… whether dumbfck moronic closed minded idiots the likes of these pseudo fck’d up hopeless case schmuckarse scientists wanna accept the FACT of it or NOT..!
21 Apr 2012, 00:04 am
Yip so u anti-abortion and yet your piep like a loose cannon on the ooenrange – u got some dmfk confused fkn rules that u just blindly obey -damn fool don’t wanna think for one second, just obey.
21 Apr 2012, 00:05 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-587: You are the prick here buddy…you and the rest of your Bull mates who absolutely believe in your own self-worth.You pricks better prepare for three losses in Australasia.
21 Apr 2012, 00:05 am
big fckng brave arse scientist… go to the merchant and get yourself a cap of sunshine and go pop it.. you’ll pop your brain to smithereens and you pathetic little moron won’t know wtf you are or wtf you been or wtf you going to .. poor imbecilic little brave cn’t moron who pretend he wanna know the reality of what life actually IS.. but then again he too f’ng chicken to find out..
I don’t recommend you pop some A you will fck yourself to hell.. you won’t handle the situation at ALL and you could actually do your pathetic closed minded imbecilic pseudo arse brain some damage…
21 Apr 2012, 00:13 am
U talking about acid – is that what this is all about – u a complete toolman that’s been done as a teeny bopper on the rand and more – nothing to it – I asked for seconds – I thought u talking about some special herb that u smoke which explains why u got no brains left and why u away with the fairies – no wonder u live in nevernwverland – how tge fk u actually think u going to find anything out about reality by taking a chemical whose sole purpose is too escape and distort reality? Huh ?
21 Apr 2012, 00:13 am
I thunk the entire caboodle of razzmatazz idiocy through the center of the bulls eye LONG AGO….. you dumb fck little know nothing nobody.. you dunno fckall about your so called ‘independent’ little dumb fck ignorant conditioned brain.. you think you know so much when you actually know so LITTLE….
you think you can ‘think’ your way to knowledge or understanding.. your thought processes are CLOSED.. your mind is SHUT… you have no eyes to SEE… your ears are stopped up and deaf….
you have NO wherewithal to know about LIFE yet you THINK your mathematical equations can give you the answers to THAT…
You are a fcking MORON without a clue in the world about who the fck you actually ARE.. and you come here and lecture someone on being able to THINK straight when you cannot ‘THINK’ at ALL.. you f’ing imbecile.. you dunno the beginning of WHO is WHO and WHAT is WHAT you dumb fck ignoramus moron pseudo scientific idiot DUNCE deluxe..
21 Apr 2012, 00:18 am
WTF u got mathematics on the noodle for tonight? You planning on doing some lecturing in that too?
21 Apr 2012, 00:18 am
A is not what its about.. closed minded conditioned materialist idiocy is detrimental to understanding anything about life.. thats what its about..!!
you need a far better clear sighted education than the dumb fck dead end street you been careering down without a clue in the woprld about who the fck you are or wtf life is actually ABOUT .
21 Apr 2012, 00:19 am
Ag more woo-woo bluster from the big fkn hero
21 Apr 2012, 00:22 am
God gerd how much mathematics does one need to load bricks into s wheelbarrow – uncle bob was a nasterbuilder and I ain’t ever seen him do algebra..
21 Apr 2012, 00:22 am
Well done Stormers.
Back on track. Fark a few seasons back, two wins on tour would have been enough.
Depth is the key this season, and come business end when everyone is fit, they can do it.
But……., one step at a time.
21 Apr 2012, 00:23 am
Gouge claims leave Bulls open to scorn
Spiro Zavos
April 21, 2012
PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA – APRIL 07, Flip van der Merwe during the 2012 Super Rugby match between Vodacom Bulls and Crusaders from Loftus Versfeld on April 07, 2012 in Pretoria, South Africa. Photo by Lee Warren/Getty Images
‘Gougegate’ … Flip van der Merwe’s injury. Photo: Getty Images
The ”Gougegate” affair is becoming murky. There are too many unanswered questions relating to it that need to be resolved by SANZAR if public confidence in the new process is to be maintained.
Just before half-time in the Bulls-Crusaders match in Pretoria two weekends ago, the Bulls prop Chiliboy Ralepelle complained to the referee, Jaco Peyper, that he had been eye-gouged. It was a noticeably low-key complaint.
Just after half-time the Bulls second-rower Flip van der Merwe also complained he had been eye-gouged. Again, the complaint was low-key. The referee put the incidents on a white card notice to the citing commissioner.
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The Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder questioned whether the complaints were a gamesmanship ploy intended to unsettle his side. He insisted that if the complaints were not proven the Bulls should apologise. The Bulls said there would be no apology and pointed to the evidence of the damaged eye of van der Merwe.
The citing commissioner found there was nothing in the video footage that could substantiate the complaint.
SANZAR’s chief executive Greg Peters noted the citing commissioner was bemused that the Bulls “did not follow through with a complaint within the four-hour window after the game”. Peters insisted that if he thought the complaints were made on a “vexatious basis” he would “certainly be asking some questions”.
Well, here are some questions that haven’t been asked and should be answered.
Was the photo published in the South African media of van der Merwe’s torn and bleeding eye actually related to the eye-gouging incident? If he did get this nasty injury to his eye from a gouge, why did the Bulls coach Frans Ludeke say that it was “not a big thing”? And why wasn’t the damaged eye offered as evidence to the citing commissioner?
There was a great deal of discussion on rugby websites that van der Merwe left the field in the first half after a stray boot, from a teammate, made contact with his right eye. This kick damaged his eye in the way the photo revealed, it is claimed.
Why hasn’t SANZAR checked this allegation? If the injury did come earlier in the match, why didn’t the Bulls correct the media reports that the photo evidence proved their complaints? And is it appropriate to make eye-gouging complaints and not provide any evidence to the citing commissioner?
This affair, in my opinion, has raised serious issues about the willingness of the Bulls to do what it takes to win matches.
Jake White has told his young Brumbies side to prepare for a “baptism of fire” when they play the Bulls at Loftus Versfeld tonight. “Nothing untoward, nothing illegal, they just love their rugby, they want to win and will put pressure wherever they can,” he said.
My question is this: is it possible that this determination sometimes leads to unacceptable gamesmanship? If the Bulls franchise and their supporters complain that this is unfair, they need to understand that ”Gougegate” may have exposed the Bulls to this sort of accusation.
Now back to rugby matters. It looks likely that the winner of the Australian conference will be the only Australian side in the six-team finals series. The Brumbies on 24 points would only be sixth on the ladder if it were based solely on points. The Waratahs and Reds are on 21 points, ninth-equal on the table.
The Waratahs should defeat the Rebels in Sydney. They need this victory because, along with the Sharks, they are the only team in the top 10 that have lost four matches. The Reds play the second-ranked Stormers at Suncorp. In their favour is that fact that they have won 17 of the last 18 matches played there.
The Brumbies are facing a rampaging Bulls side. The Bulls have scored the most points, 234, of any side in the tournament. A win for the Brumbies sets them up to win the Australian conference. But this is easier said than done, as are many things in the world of rugby.
spiro@theroar.com.au
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/gouge-claims-leave-bulls-open-to-scorn-20120420-1xceu.html#ixzz1scbysq00
21 Apr 2012, 00:26 am
Stormerforlife
In your face priek. Ask anyone here and they will tell you Stormers is my second team. Always support them, just not when they play the Bulls.
You bounce in with your “in your face” attitude as if you had any minute part in the Stormer success.
And how can you throw your stones at other supporters if you are the cancer yourself
Support your team full out, but be humble if you win or lose.
Grow up.
21 Apr 2012, 00:29 am
do you KNOW what a hero is… ?? Schalk Burger is a hero.. John Smit is a hero… Victor Matfield is a so called hero.. so is FdP…
ashampoopaloo is NOT a hero.. ashampoopaloo is a fckng genius who got lucky enough to KNOW what life is about… unlike some dead end street chasing moronic algebra fundi’s who dunno what life is from the smellyfarts emanating from out their pseudo know nothing backsides…
21 Apr 2012, 00:29 am
IAAS
For sure.
Man, I’m telling you Aplon is one brilliant little player. Him and Hougaard together in the back three with either Habana or JP would be awesome.
21 Apr 2012, 00:30 am
Ahshatapoopoo is no genius oh pel – not even in his wildest lewensdroeme.
21 Apr 2012, 00:32 am
Back to life, back to reality.
21 Apr 2012, 00:33 am
PRICKS and haters like greatest13,kleutertjie,hg,blueboy have been shown up today for their little peanut brains they possess.
21 Apr 2012, 00:36 am
why don’t you just face some FACTS that you know fckall.. about life or about reality.. or about ANYTHING worth knowing … or you seriously believe you do KNOW something worthwhile..
I’m telling you straight out you don’t.. so if you wanna know whats WHAT.. then go FIND OUT from those who do.. because you.. you dumb fck ignoramus idiotic imbecilic dumbfck self deluded schmuck absolutely and definitely do NOT…
21 Apr 2012, 00:37 am
Stormerforlife
So you are a troll. All good, but this will be my last reply to you.
If coming onto a blog with the sole purpose of trying to get a reaction is your thing, then good luck with your life.
21 Apr 2012, 00:38 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-609: its true they been hoping and praying and baying for the red tide to do us IN.. the only ones that got done in at the end of the equation.. was them…
21 Apr 2012, 00:38 am
Speaka da English ? WTF u actually saying? Tell us what u actually know then, come on die groot held genius…
21 Apr 2012, 00:39 am
everybody comes onto a blog to get a reaction out of others.. otherwise wtf you come onto a blog for at all.. its ONLY to get a reaction from somebody else.. else there be no need to come onto a public blog At all..
21 Apr 2012, 00:42 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-612: Just love it.I apologise if i am a bit over the top on here ,but i am just sick and tired of those haters.
21 Apr 2012, 00:43 am
what I KNOW for absolute f’ng Certain is that you are a lost imbecile idiot that wanna know wtf you doing in creation and wtf your unresolved life is actually about.. but you so full of your useless and pathetic know nothing pseudo arse mathematical scientific nonsense.. that you dunno where the fck to begin to find out… so you come seeking answers from those who do have a clue but you yourself are actually too chicken to actually find out…
21 Apr 2012, 00:45 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-615: you entitled to be over the top.. they all are.. its the reaction station central of rugby lovers who all know more than the next one about who’s the greatest supporter or the worst haters around here
21 Apr 2012, 00:46 am
And What I know for absolute certain is that you are no genius, trust me on this one – u a closed minded brainwashed religious nut like the ones u tease about kersfees and watookal but as soon as it comes to hoenders and eiers then u not so fkn flippant ne ou baas.
21 Apr 2012, 00:48 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-611: I am suddenly a troll now.You are a hypocrite and a fine one at it.I haven’t seen a kleutertjie post yet where you have taken these stormers-hating mob to task.In all honesty i really care about the hate because it’s so much sweeter when the stormer boys prove your crowd wrong time and time again.
21 Apr 2012, 00:49 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-619: don’t really care
21 Apr 2012, 00:54 am
@cab(cab)-618: ag man you know fuckall.. those are the FACTS.. like you know fuckall about life you also know absolutely fuckall about me…. or about WHAT is WHAT in this universe.. dumb fck deluded ignoramus SCHMUCK.. deluxe…
You know Fck ALL.. that is ALL you need to know.. that what you KNOW is worth FUCKALL.. that is the FACT that you dumb fck moronic imbecilic little moronic imbecilic prat actually do NOT KNOW..!!
21 Apr 2012, 00:59 am
Ya ya .. Actually, but u still ain’t said what it I’d your genius self actually knows – other than how to bullshit like a gold-medalist.
Come now stop talking the ****, come down from your ethereal realm of fairies and unicorns, back down to terra firm, back to the Barrie and bricks u build the houses out of..
21 Apr 2012, 01:04 am
what I know is what you would like to know… you actually itching to know.. but fact of the matter is you not ready to know because bottom line you just too chicken to know… so that’s why you don’t know.. and why you ‘think’ you can use your materialist closed shop mathematical equations to try find out what your dumb fck mind is too chicken to find out .. so you come out with stupid equations and comparisons about religious nuts and unicorns and fairy’s and goblins.. but bottom line you actually do ‘know’ that what you don’t know.. I actually do know…
that is the difference between those who know… and those dumb fck pseudo scientific moronic closed mind materialist dunces who don’t…
21 Apr 2012, 01:10 am
I mean the rest is all make believe, u actually don’t know, u really don’t know – and do really or actually when all is said and done u are a genius if nothing at all but that’s what the watchatutu tribe us all about making genius’ of individuals who actually know nothing at all except how to bullshit. Bullshit baffles brains and u are so baffled that u think u r not. It’s fine ou doosie believe what u must to help u get thru it. Whatever u must, it’s a nice fairytake afterall.
Out
21 Apr 2012, 01:12 am
I’m going to bed.. another long session of dead end street head bashing re education for the dumb fck deluded pseudo scientific dunces of the moron materialist make belief world of non knowing ignorant delusional illusionists.
21 Apr 2012, 01:12 am
Ashampoola
I see you found your solemate. If everyone is entitled to their opinion, then why are you constantly involved in arguments relating to different opinions?
When it suits you yes. Fact is you have no respect for opinions that differ from yours.
21 Apr 2012, 01:18 am
I know what I know.. and you don’t… its as simple as that… when you know what I know then you be in a position to judge what is worth knowing and what is not…
right now you are in absolutely NO position to know ANYTHING relevant to what is worthwhile knowledge and what is not… because you have NO measuring device to acknowledge or know it by… when or IF you find out what is worth really KNOWING.. then you can be the great judge of reality from illusion.. right now you are FAR from knowing what is reality or what is illusion…
and the difference is I do..
21 Apr 2012, 01:21 am
who’s my ‘sole”mate Kleuter .. or you mean soulmate?
No I don’t have any soul mate.. either here or elsewhere
I challenge those who think they can judge what is true from false or foul from fair…
and most times they fall short of where integrity or truth or fairness begins or ends…
21 Apr 2012, 01:23 am
time out
nag
21 Apr 2012, 01:25 am
No, sole mate, as in only one(sole). But yes, could be soul mate too.
It truly is sad that someone who obviously is very intelligent feel the need to resort to this kind of behavior.
Good luck in finding a sole or soul mate.
21 Apr 2012, 01:36 am
@stormerforlife1(stormerforlife1)-619:
Don’t you ever care about guys like Kleuter.
Any Bulls supporter who tells you that he has been reading this site for “a long time” and is only blogging now on this site, you have to take with a bag full of salt.
Most probably, he was part of the GROOT TREK.
STTTOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
ON TOP AGAINNNNNN.
21 Apr 2012, 01:39 am
oh well my sole less ‘behavior’ falls short of the status quo contingency for normal and sane mature people on keo…
whoopee I aced it .. keep on trucking truck a billy till the truck runs out of gas…
21 Apr 2012, 01:43 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-630:
Please don’t tell me that you are family of ET!!!
Jy “praat” amper soos hy.
21 Apr 2012, 01:50 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-630:
“No, sole mate, as in only one(sole). But yes, could be soul mate too.”
Classic ET.
Sometimes you can’t, “hide” yourself. No matter how you wanna try.
21 Apr 2012, 01:58 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-604:
Stormerforlife
“In your face priek. Ask anyone here and they will tell you Stormers is my second team. Always support them, just not when they play the Bulls.
You bounce in with your “in your face” attitude as if you had any minute part in the Stormer success.
And how can you throw your stones at other supporters if you are the cancer yourself
Support your team full out, but be humble if you win or lose.
Grow up.”
Can’t ask anybody on here where your 2nd loyalty lies because according to you (last week), you are NEW on this site. REMEMBER.
Another classic ET comment.
21 Apr 2012, 05:11 am
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-627:
Yes yes Ubu… we hear this every week from you… you are the omnipresent, all-seeing, all-knowing bakkie-bouer… everyone else is simply ‘lost’ and haven’t a clue.
Ho hum you delusional, tunnel-visioned old fool!
21 Apr 2012, 05:24 am
well done to the stormers but what must be said watching the game and the closeness of the score one would think that is “is that all the stormer got?” I predicted a red hammering and we only got a 10 point beating.
Stormers this is a RED side for the most part of the season have had 10 first choice regulars injured…in this game 7 first choice regulars missing.
21 Apr 2012, 05:34 am
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-636: What is it with this “person” ?(male or female, man or beast)”Tunnel vision” flatter him . ” NO vision” would be a better description.I try not to read his garbage,but unfortunately he dominates the posts .Surely KEO should kick him of the site.
21 Apr 2012, 05:51 am
I wonder what made the perception that Euan McKenzie is a great coach?
Never mind he ruined my wager, his team was trying to take on the stronger Stormers’s forwards up front, fielding a hopeless caricature such as Samo instead of kicking behind the ever out of the position stormers backs
Saying that, Ganie was exposed again, over rated guy who commandeers the decision making from the flyhalf.
Stormers did well to expose the Reds despite intelligent assists from Steve Walsh
21 Apr 2012, 06:12 am
@optiplay(optiplay)-638:
He’s been banned and had more nics than most punters have had hot dinners…
@wallabie.(wallabie.)-637:
In all fairness that was a completely new mid-field for the Stormers, they lost their LO specialist last week as well as their captain JDV and have their first choice captain missing… so the Reds have no excuses…
Stormer’s went to sleep protecting their lead in the 2nd half… Reds left a potential 16 pts on the floor with 3 missed PK’s and a fumbled try (albeit that was a gift Horwill was handed…
21 Apr 2012, 06:35 am
What a ****** performance by the stormers
21 Apr 2012, 06:39 am
Basic left wing play stipulates when you are in open ground hugging touchline you hold ball under left arm leaving your right arm free to fend incoming cover defenders, or better still you make a late switch of the ball to left arm which may put off cover tackler……..should explain this to Rocket Rod Davies………..skill level in Reds backline has declined dramatically
21 Apr 2012, 06:53 am
this optiplay is a two face, who has condoned his better judgment to step off of his high horse once in a blue moon to lower his huge self esteem to converse with this very same tunnel visioned old fool,
two faces like these are what they are, two faced fools, same as this Bryce the little schmyce who can’t realize that the majority content of the discussion here in last couple pages has ALL been for the benefit of that other two face little runt his bosom pal cab the pseudo scientist who’s so g’dam intent to find out exactly THAT, which he dunno.
21 Apr 2012, 06:54 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-642:
Davies still inexperienced since his move to union… but yes he’s no Digby Ione, QC nor Anthony Faingaa yet…
@Chris Hani(Chris Hani)-641:
Yep winning, topping the table and becoming the first RSA side to win at Suncorp must really suck for the Stormer’s fans…
21 Apr 2012, 07:05 am
for those schmucks who STILL cannot see or acknowledge the value of players such as Peter Grant, Dewalt Duvenhage, Juan De Jongh and Gio Aplon.., hope you got a video machine so you can watch that game again.
Grant made the Aplon try along with assists from De Jongh, and scored another himself not to mention deadly accurate place kicking when it matters, and most these schmuckaroos still sing the virtues of Morne Steyn whereas Grant has out played him all season long…
And they only belatedly beginning to realise what I been telling them for 5 whole long years already, Play Peter Grant in the type game where he excels close to the advantage line and Boks would have WON all those tests they lOST under the auspicious talents of FdP and Morne Steyn while suffering under the immaculate guidance of bumchum brudda blue eyed Johnny boy Smit.. Who opted for Butcher when he SHOULD have opted for Grant.
21 Apr 2012, 07:13 am
Stormers
they will not make it till the end they just not good enough
21 Apr 2012, 07:19 am
neither Bulls nor Sharks would have handled Reds in Brisbane, as decimated Reds might be with injuries they were still a pumped up project of rejuvenated energy who came short against the better composed forces of Stormers on the day in their own fortress
So let the disgruntled Sharks and Bulls supporters moan and groan about how lucky Stormers have been, so far taking care of ALL the top gun opposition apart from a narrow miss to Crusaders in Chch the young Stormers outfit have handled and dispatched along the way including Hurricanes Sharks Bulls at home and Highlanders and Reds in their own back yard fortresses.
21 Apr 2012, 07:28 am
@Chris Hani(Chris Hani)-646: so what you tryna do…be a revolutionary who hasn’t got a clue.. ,that what you tryna do adopting a name of someone that got murdered by some white fascist dumb fcKs? Stupefied moronic dumb ignorant fckd up idiot.!
21 Apr 2012, 07:34 am
648.ashampoopaloo said
your name says it all poopaloo
21 Apr 2012, 07:46 am
@Chris Hani(Chris Hani)-649:
Whats your problem fool?
21 Apr 2012, 08:04 am
Hey – Ashampoopaloo, sometimes – when I read your comments, I laugh – other times I shake my head but mostly I do both… And then skip reading them for the rest of the day
21 Apr 2012, 08:05 am
I declare this thread officially dead,
The Stormers won (again)
There’s a new day of games ahead.
Yadda Yadda…..
21 Apr 2012, 08:18 am
at least poopaloo is my own name I dreamed up for myself.., not like this little kindergarten escapee who is so enamoured with a dead revolutionary that he adopts the name of a person who was poorly and cold blooded murdered by some hacked up fckd up white fascist scum of the earth pathetic trash punks
21 Apr 2012, 08:20 am
I rest my case, your witness
21 Apr 2012, 08:27 am
why you referring to me brains trust? If you such a brainy brains trust you should know that by referring to me you have just blown your own brainless idiocy sky high.. You just proved what a non brainy trust of brainlessness you actually do attest to.. You no brains trust whatsoever.., just like so many other brainless idiots round here you just another stupid ignoramus idiot dumb fck.
21 Apr 2012, 10:44 am
Good win by depleted Stormers side on the road,got the best record of any SA teams in Oz,Perth won’t be easy but nothing wrong with 3 out of 4 playing away.
21 Apr 2012, 11:10 am
Just to all other people on here – most Stormers fans are embarresed to hell that Skop (ashampawhoegivesashit) is a Stormers supporter.
I was enjoying reading the banter, but once he comes on I just stop reading. Boring, insulting and repetitive as hell.
Calling this player and that player “1000 times the man”, freaking ridiculous. Some armchair teenager calling insulting a IRB player of the year and world cup winner EVERY single boring posts he writes – ridiculous. blabla interesinting conversation is OVER when he comes on here.
Can’t we ban him or something? Maybe if everyone just ignores him he goes away?
21 Apr 2012, 11:16 am
@wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-657: embarrassed of course
21 Apr 2012, 11:46 am
Congrats to the Stormers and their supporters on yesterdays win. So much for the “bubble bursting”
21 Apr 2012, 12:03 pm
@Cheetahs27(Cheetahs27)-659:
Heavens game the only ‘tard that keeps refering to a bubble burst,his head is so far up his aas I sometimes wonder if he ever comes up to breathe.
21 Apr 2012, 14:33 pm
@nama1(nama1)-635: Are you mentally handicapped or simply looking for a key-board brawl?
net vir jou en jou extended familie.
Wait, let me picture you. A disadvantaged little runt looking for a way to justify his existence by posting comments that make absolutely no sense.
And, as I told you before, address me as Meneer, jou slang.
Smiley face
****
21 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@nama1(nama1)-635:
Do some work while on nagskof sonny, and stop wasting your boss’ money.
21 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-647:
Boer War hungover national selectors will do anything to keep Bishops boys out of the Springbok team.
22 Apr 2012, 08:35 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-661: stop it now pietman
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