Waratahs ease past Rebels
21 Apr 2012
GARETH DUNCAN reports on the Waratahs’ 30-21 victory over the Rebels in Sydney.
The result was expected. The Rebels are known for their poor record on the road, and they expectedly folded against the Waratahs’ charge. The latter dominated with a strong superior forwards display, moments of impressive backline interplay and clever decision-making to cruise to victory. Despite two tries in a late fightback from the visitors, the hosts still held on for a comfortable win.
The Waratahs will, however, lament their inability to score a fourth try for the bonus point. In the dying moments, they camped in the Rebels’ red zone, but they couldn’t reach the whitewash after several attempts. This could prove costly in their pursuit for a play-off place, considering their poor start to the season.
The Sydney team started the match strongly, grabbing the opening try after just 26 seconds. After winning possession from the kick-off, they built moment through strong ball carries before a smart backline move, mixed with inside and outside offloads, was finished off by fullback Bernard Foley. Scrumhalf Brendan McKibbin added the extras, and kicked two penalties for an early 13-0 lead.
The Rebels managed to hit back through a try scored by hooker Ged Robinson, but McKibbin slotted another three-pointer to make the half-time tally 16-7 in the Waratahs’ favour.
Hooker Tatafu Polota-Nau powered through after a clever lineout move to give the hosts a perfect start to the second half, and outside centre Rob Horne created a big opportunity for a bonus-point win when he scored the third try moments later. But their ill-discipline cost them momentum, and saw them reduced to 14 men when Horne was yellow carded.
The Rebels made full use of their one-man advantage and capitalised on that ascendancy to cross the chalk via flanker Tom Davidson and wing Lachlan Mitchell.
Once they returned to 15 men, the Waratahs regained their control of the match, but failed to find that valuable fourth try.
132 Comments
21 Apr 2012, 11:13 am
Aaah Aussie derby, let me rather go clean the gutters
21 Apr 2012, 11:16 am
No let me rather marinate the meat for tonight’s braai and booze up so long
21 Apr 2012, 11:20 am
Lloyd Johansson, did he not play for the reds like donkeys of years ago?
TE-Rebels really scraping the barrel here
21 Apr 2012, 11:21 am
I wish they would put this on later when I want to sleep.
21 Apr 2012, 11:23 am
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-2:
Ha booze up so long? Start now and you will miss the game!
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-3:
He was a youngster then and played overseas for a while…I think.
21 Apr 2012, 11:30 am
Aussies should keep this kak to themselves.
21 Apr 2012, 11:31 am
McKibbin is keeping Sarel on the bench…he might rethink his move
21 Apr 2012, 11:35 am
Sarel has been nowhere near as good this year as he was last year with the Cheetahs. He should have stayed put.
21 Apr 2012, 11:44 am
I wonder what Pretorius and Cipriani thinks about this pipe blowing nonsense
21 Apr 2012, 11:46 am
After watching most games this season I’ve come to the sad conclusion that the ref’s have been horrendos. Sanzar has been so busy trying to improve the game with small rule changes that they have totally droped the ball. Its not the rules it is the pathetic refs. The only ref that hasn’t been totally useless is mark lawrence.
Go rebels.
21 Apr 2012, 11:47 am
WOW go Tahs! Great opening try. 26 seconds
21 Apr 2012, 11:55 am
Bruise free football, they call it, in Melbourne
21 Apr 2012, 11:55 am
cipriani must fokkof to england, he adds nothing! the aussies must face that they don’t have the player base.
21 Apr 2012, 12:11 pm
this game is so pedestrian… *yawn*
21 Apr 2012, 12:12 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-14: what did you expect from an Aussie derby?
21 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
@Sasuke wow that’s a long wait and the bleach seem to be losing.the.plot too !!!
Dame is this aussies alone in the comp everytime i look its a aussies darby …lol
21 Apr 2012, 12:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-14:
Yah,find it very hard to drag myself from the braai to watch an aussie borefest. :yawn:
21 Apr 2012, 12:17 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-9:
They’d more than likely also be showing their respects for the 21000 Aussies, Kiwi’s, English and French that lost their lives in those fateful few days at Gallipoli you boorish ignoramus…
21 Apr 2012, 12:23 pm
So Sarel thought he gonna act like a money grubbing mercenary and makes the worst move of his career.. That’ll learn those money grubbing idiots that wanna chase the money fck their own game up by focussing on the WRONG aspect of what sport is supposed to be about..
I would advocate that ANY player that goes over to another club or franchise outside the country automatically forfeit his Bok aspirations including overrated hero’s such as FdP and Frans Steyn and the rest..
21 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm
Skop, your take on the latest shark attack in false bay?
21 Apr 2012, 12:28 pm
@ 19 Is that not the Kiwi policy?
21 Apr 2012, 12:30 pm
Who cares what skopshyte thinks!
21 Apr 2012, 12:33 pm
@Narutokun(Narutokun)-16: Yip I am currently watching old episodes. Not a bleach fan.
21 Apr 2012, 12:33 pm
@Woody, he loves the sea…
21 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm
Same goes for Beale and O’Connor their games have gone to sh’t since they joined this no name brand bunch of slapped together moronic melbourne mercenary misfit moegoe team..
Chase the f’ng money and you sacrifice the true underlying purpose of what sport is about., once you lose any sense of patriotic fervor you just become one more robotic zombie chasing a ball around a field while your mind is someplace else thinking about your bank balance or retirement annuity..
21 Apr 2012, 12:34 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-24: The Old Man and The Sea.
21 Apr 2012, 12:37 pm
Must say the blog’s boring without GrantSpeedoBalls and JR
21 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm
@Woody,yip Skops got a homemade harpoon and a row boat
21 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm
@ slarti,
Its never too early, start of with a few ciders and warm up for two mouthwatering games later in the day
@ bryce,
If people cared then they would be advertising this **** at rugby games. We want rugby, not some general from the green barret crying on TV.
…And no need for the name calling, you wouldn’t like being called a sensitive troglodyte sheepshagger or would you?
21 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-27: I missed their departure. Why did they leave on their Groot Trek?
I must say I got a bit sick of all their “Plod” whining.
21 Apr 2012, 12:40 pm
Bleach was the bomb u doing what u missing bru !!
21 Apr 2012, 12:41 pm
Robzim is a known shark protector.
21 Apr 2012, 12:43 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-20:
The shark attack is so obviously related to chumming it’s only people who profit from the industry who try and defend their dubious actions.Shark cage diving and ‘research’ have habituated these monsters form the deep to humans and instigated an interest in them being a possible food source.The sharks are baited to breach by trailing a seal dummy behind the boats which does not look very different to a surfer on his board.Sharks are also teased alongside boats in order to rub their noses when actually the shark is trying to take the teaser ‘researcher’s arm off.I gave up surfing in false bay 5 years ago,and am even nervous on the west coast now.It’s despicable but year on year shark attacks keep going up because of these actions and so called experts deny the claims that attacks are related to their money making operations whilst innocent lives are being lost.
21 Apr 2012, 12:44 pm
@Woody, yip self imposed exile for them but they do read here still. No doubt wanting to let rip at the sharkievarkies!
21 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-29: I’m on Bryce’s side here. You don’t make fun of this ANZAC stuff – it’s serious business and you come accross as an ignorant fool when you make jokes.
And a word of advice from someone who has een them react – I wouldn’t make any comments like that if you visit NZ or Aus – you’ll be heading home in a bag.
21 Apr 2012, 12:45 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-29: “@ bryce, If people cared then they would be advertising this **** at rugby games. We want rugby, not some general from the green barret crying on TV. …And no need for the name calling, you wouldn’t like being called a sensitive troglodyte sheepshagger or would you?”
Actually, I think it is very good to remember those who paid the ultimate price for their country. Australia is very big on it – almost all of their small towns have an ANZAC memorial honouring their dead. They are very proud of their history.
Compare that to SA today.
21 Apr 2012, 12:47 pm
@skyewalker Agree but this incident took place 40km from those chumming idiots. west coast? I reckon the waters too farkin cold for sharks?
21 Apr 2012, 12:48 pm
poor little fakface wooden spoonful of spit get his gat skopped here daily wanna keep getting his ingratiated little fakface shoved up his piepie joller peanut brained poephol.
Aussies should stick to that fckd up aerial ping pong Aussie Rules garbage, rugby union is right out their natural inherent sporting inheritance its like taking a chinaman off the ping pong circuit and giving him a cricket bat and sending him out to open the skittle sticks innings in the mad house of the MCG in the sweltering midday sun
21 Apr 2012, 12:48 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-36: It’s actually the ONLY thing i’ve ever seen the Aussies take seriously.
21 Apr 2012, 12:49 pm
Robzim has started an adopt-a- shark initiative.
21 Apr 2012, 12:50 pm
This game is so kak.
21 Apr 2012, 12:51 pm
I think Kaplan is winning.
21 Apr 2012, 12:51 pm
@ jeest,
Maybe you and the soft hearted old men should get together and trade your stories with some tissues.
I’m saying there is no place in rugby for this stuff. You agree or don’t agree.
~End of story~
21 Apr 2012, 12:52 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-8:
Yep,he’s made the perfect example of chasing the money usually leeds to loss of form and reputation.
21 Apr 2012, 12:55 pm
@NoRugbyGuru_0_(RugbyGuru_0_)-43: and I’m saying you are a complete twat. You agree or don’t agree.
~End of story~
21 Apr 2012, 12:56 pm
@Slappes(Slappes)-37:
Not fo the great whites,which are the one’s being targeted with all this so called research.I used to dive for diamonds and often saw their ghostly shapes gliding by.
21 Apr 2012, 12:56 pm
Middle aged swimmer stung by jellie fish. A swimmer clad only in a yellow speedo was stung on his testes at milnerton beach.
21 Apr 2012, 12:58 pm
@Skyewalker, thats farkin scary! I’ll stick to swimming in my pool.
21 Apr 2012, 12:59 pm
@ wooden spoon,
Next time try to be original and not copy me. Makes you look like a fool as well
Too many cry babies here, I’m outa here
21 Apr 2012, 13:00 pm
Skye. . . Spot on re shark attack. Some 20 year old kid is late after all. “Experts” are coming onto TV news to debate whether chumming caused it. I was appalled as all hell
21 Apr 2012, 13:00 pm
@skyewalker(skyewalker)-33:
Correct the dumb fck sharkslover arseholes who wanna protect these man eating scum while same time luring them toward human bait in their stupid quest to profit from a dubious industry that creates havoc with natures boundaries and norms.
21 Apr 2012, 13:02 pm
Just one last thought, why don’t we see this remembrance nonsense at the following sports:
Boxing
Running
Cycling
Motorsport
I will check your response later
21 Apr 2012, 13:09 pm
@viewer(viewer)-50:
Yeah,it’s the same as some guy feeding lions every day and then becomes the meal one day.The predator associates the feeder with food.Exept that you can’t cage the sharks in the ocean.
21 Apr 2012, 13:10 pm
I’m with NRG on this war veteran sentiment nonsense wtf it gotta do with a rugby game
Just a fat excuse to shed crocodile tears for somebody you lost all association with. They might have died for a cause but that cause is now consigned to history, how long they gonna keep shedding crocodile tears about it ., another 250 generations into the future?
21 Apr 2012, 13:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-13:
The Aussies are defending super and tri nation title holders, they have beaten you 6 from the last 8 tests and came 3rd at the last WC, perhaps its time for you to the face the facts?
21 Apr 2012, 13:17 pm
This feels weird. On a non-SA team thread people are civil.
I don’t know what to think
Guru 52 – in rugby there’s a nice big field where those old farts can stand in their army uniforms (with adult diapers underneath) & make those serious facial expressions
21 Apr 2012, 13:25 pm
The moment Beale moved to 10, the Rebels looked better…
21 Apr 2012, 13:28 pm
As for the old disrespectful codger, if not for the Anzacs and a few of their mates we know where you would have been Joel!
21 Apr 2012, 13:33 pm
If comments are closed now like they were on the hurricanes thread it might be a record low for a SR match? Anyone know?
21 Apr 2012, 13:34 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-54: You, with that post just reminded me that some people are just a r s e holes. Keo seriously you need to get some mods, p r i c k s like these chase away more people than it attracks.
21 Apr 2012, 13:36 pm
@greentea(greentea)-55:and how does allof this relate to the boring rebels & tahs game?
you’re like a scratched record chap, give yourself a poesklap.
21 Apr 2012, 13:39 pm
LOL @ Steve’s rant
21 Apr 2012, 13:42 pm
Lol @ Transie
21 Apr 2012, 13:45 pm
@SteveWarren(SteveWarren)-60:
Skoppie holds the record for bannings,but you gotta give it to him,he just keeps coming back.
21 Apr 2012, 13:46 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-54:
My people lost their Fathers,brothers and sons .A generation of leaders amongst my people lying in battlefields overseas… if they had lived…. hopefully my people wouldn’t be in the shiit they are today.
21 Apr 2012, 13:56 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-61:
With no player base as you say, they seem to be doing just fine.
21 Apr 2012, 13:57 pm
this seemingly sensitive ANZAC stuff, is it one of those times when politics & sport mix comfortably?
21 Apr 2012, 13:58 pm
@greentea(greentea)-66:are the rebels doing fine?
21 Apr 2012, 14:00 pm
Nothing like a SAFFA in denial when it comes to Australian rugby, ” we’re better than them, we just don’t beat them very often”
21 Apr 2012, 14:01 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-68:
When it comes to wooden spoons in SANZAR rugby your lot take first prize, daylight is second.
21 Apr 2012, 14:05 pm
So wouldn’t that indicate you don’t have the playing base?
21 Apr 2012, 14:06 pm
@greentea(greentea)-69:clearly you derive some sort of infantile, perverse pleasure in always trying to lord it over us saffas
poor china
21 Apr 2012, 14:07 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-65: what were they doing over there in Turkey protecting the interests of Victoria and her empire
Cannon fodder for somebody else’s war.. same as the Yanks doing in Middle East.. all about OIL and nothing more sentimental than that…
@SteveWarren(SteveWarren)-60: who this prick think he is the protector of Old Mother Hubbards bare cupboard.. The empire is long last lost and forgotten.. get over it…
@Slartibartfast(Slartibartfast)-58: tell Me Koosie.. where in the WORLD would I have been if not for the Anzacs and their mates..?? I’m seriously DYING to know?
Beside you welcome to have all your sentiment crocodile tears about something that HAPPENED in history, if it gonna help you with your sentimental reverence remembrance of who you might think you are.. the fact of the issue is WTF all of this bugles and half mast flags and crocodile tears got to do with a modern rugby game in 2012.. ANYTHING .. anything at ALL??
21 Apr 2012, 14:08 pm
@greentea(greentea)-70:are the rebels doing well?
21 Apr 2012, 14:10 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-72:
No it just makes me laugh when I hear how good you are, when the results say otherwise.
21 Apr 2012, 14:10 pm
What happened to crusaders thread
21 Apr 2012, 14:14 pm
@greentea(greentea)-70: The one got NOTHING to do with the other but some sentimental empire protectors reckon rugby is the perfect stage to cry crocodile tears and blow bugles and have mothers and fathers throughout the land declaring their allegiance to the old empire dill doomsday.. and their sentimentally bred offspring doing exactly the same in robotic like fashion… remembering that which extols the virtues of humanity.. to die for a cause… whatever it is… your cause or theirs.. as long as you die for it.. then they’ll be crying crocodile tears for you forever ad infinitum.. till the daisies come popping up on your grave.
21 Apr 2012, 14:15 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-77: meant for @Transformation(Transformation)-67: wrong reply..
21 Apr 2012, 14:18 pm
@greentea(greentea)-75: we don’t beat them very often is because we are THICK as two bricks.. not because they are better rugby players than us or match our player base depth.. there’s a big difference.
21 Apr 2012, 14:18 pm
The Super rugby format (like the Aussie teams) is a farce.
A team that would normally be lying 8th on the log, with hardly a sniff at a playoff spot is lying 3rd.
Once again, the Aussies have done wonderfully well to manipulate SANZAR to ensure they have something to talk about come the tail end.
And all the while, far worthier teams must suck it up and accept that they won’t make the playoffs despite being FAR, FAR superior.
Oh bring back the days of the Super 12.
21 Apr 2012, 14:21 pm
oh look its the groot held Genius lecturing alweer for a change huh.
ag tog i shampoo ma poopoo and like to talk alotofittoo
21 Apr 2012, 14:24 pm
I see those plonkers didn’t respond to my question. Plonkers of note
@ skop, I agree with you, there’s no place in rugby for this nonsense.
This fairy tale about aussies being respectful and serious about history is rubbish. Are you kidding me?
When Aussies won the Mandela cup a couple of years ago none of them wanted to hold the cup and made jokes about it.
Where’s the respect? Fark me? Are you serious?
21 Apr 2012, 14:24 pm
yeah the little lab rat crawled out his hole to come remember the fallen on Armistice day.. tell me something lab rat.. you also cry crocodile tears for those near and dear ones you never knew from Adam or Steve.. who sacrificed their lives so you could live in blissful harmony under Granny Lizzy and her dying dynasty ??
21 Apr 2012, 14:26 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-79:
yer maybe but you just get the feeling around here that Australian rugby is the poor cousin of SA when in reality in recent years they own you, there’s alot to be said for respecting your opponent and lets be honest very few around here respect Australian rugby.
21 Apr 2012, 14:27 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-73:
Not only Gallipoli,the Somme,El Alamein,Battle of Britain,Casino,Vietnam,Nth Korea,Afghanistan all over the globe.Yes we were and are political cannon fodder,but they are our loved ones.
21 Apr 2012, 14:27 pm
am i the lab rat? last time i been in a lab was in high school, presumably the same as you, before u went off the learn about bricks and how thick they are.
as if i give a continental about armistice day or watookal, u the big war veteran afterall that time on the kaprivi strip sadf initiative.
21 Apr 2012, 14:32 pm
@Vetkoek(Vetkoek)-80:
Correct if i’m wrong but I thought SA pushed hard for the new format as well?
21 Apr 2012, 14:35 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-85: yeah I know.. WTF WERE your fathers and brothers and sons doing over all those places defending somebody else’s war… and now you supposed to cry crocodile tears for THEIR long lost cause… they come from there.. they infiltrate your land.. then they convert you to their religion and their indoctrinated causes .. and to top it they expect you to die for it.. when it got absolutely nothing to do with you at all from the beginning… and then when all the bloodshed is all over then its poppy time on the lapels and big ceremonies to stand in unison of remembered allegiances for dying for a cause which weren’t yours at ALL…
shameful empire builders and colonizers thinking they own the world..
@cab(cab)-86: I was cannon fodder just like Te Rangatira’s people only I got lucky.. I never had to die for nobody else’s dumb fck war or cause…
21 Apr 2012, 14:37 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-88:
Are you still going on? When I left you yesterday you were ranting.
21 Apr 2012, 14:38 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-88:
so why u giving te tangatira and bryce a hard time if those are your beliefs?
besides what you think the sadf was doing, a humanitarian mission?
21 Apr 2012, 14:41 pm
@greentea(greentea)-84: Australian rugby is no way as demanding or at same level of traditional attrition rugby as NZ or SA rugby .. but they make up for their lack of physicality with superior tactical acumen and mental strengths..
Still the fact we lost to them so often in recent years is a dumb stupidity induced tragedy.. it all goes around this insane penchant by Saffas to retreat into conservative fear induced states of paranoia.. and picking players and captains on sentimental hogwash historical hero worship.. and NOT on current expertise and ability.. and definitely our tactical nous is way behind Aussie and lacking in brains.
21 Apr 2012, 14:43 pm
I watched a league test yesterday between the Aussies and the kiwis. Makes absolutely no sense.
They bash their way up 60 meters and then kick. Bash up 50, then kick.
21 Apr 2012, 14:46 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-92:
yeah i recorded a game earlier today – but that league is just bash it up stuff, tackle after tackle, they are skillful but it aint got nothing on union imo, too little space to run in.
21 Apr 2012, 14:47 pm
@cab(cab)-90: so like Te Rangatira’s people I had to fall in line with the overruling sentiment driving the politics of the colonized land I lived in.. just like its been going on for countless hundreds of centuries.. when in Rome you do as the Romans do.. or they chuck you into the lions den or crucify you for being a rabble rouser .. or they didn’t teach you that in the science lab..
21 Apr 2012, 14:50 pm
@cab(cab)-93: Terrible game. Three okes tackle one. The one tackled then goes into spasm, ref shouts let go! and then he gets up and footsie the ball between his legs. Then they start over. And after all the hard work of going through 20 tackle situations, they kick the ball.
21 Apr 2012, 14:51 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-94:
yeah its a difficult one, i dunno, used to think all that honour and duty was horseshit but there is a time and place for it, so wtf actually knows. there’s alot of all that mawkish rememberance going on here, but suppose if pa and oupa died in that whatever war, no-one wants to think it were all for nothing, it mostly is, but on other occasions perhaps not so like wwII.
21 Apr 2012, 14:53 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-95:
janee, i agree – had a friend who showed me some old videos in the 80s and it was pretty damn exciting and skillful, but just bash tackle bash tackle, then kick as you say.
21 Apr 2012, 14:54 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-88
Thank you for your opinion.Food for thought
21 Apr 2012, 14:59 pm
I have Bulls by 9 and Sharks by 3.
21 Apr 2012, 15:00 pm
Kleuter I think they kick cos of the six tackle rule. Rather than turn over the ball, they will go for field position. I’m SA so don’t see any league. I know most of the players irrespective of position, are approximately the size of a flank in union. And there’s a lot of broken noses. In aussie rules its concussions
21 Apr 2012, 15:01 pm
@cab(cab)-97: I watched a few games when Ray Mordt and Rob Louw played for Wigan in the 80′s. Was okay then. But as you say now it is pretty boring.
21 Apr 2012, 15:02 pm
@viewer(viewer)-100: Oh, could be then. I have no clue about the rules. But I saw way more than 6 tackles before they kicked.
21 Apr 2012, 15:04 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-101:
that wouldve been bladdy interesting, didnt realise rob louw played too, i think mordt scored alot of tries for wigan, he was a monster on the hoof – i watched the domestic aussie stuff, they the best at it.
21 Apr 2012, 15:04 pm
Bulls might have a problem at scrum time. Don’t know Dawie at all. Plus they have Steenkamp in who is a little light.
21 Apr 2012, 15:06 pm
@cab(cab)-103: They both went over in 85 I think. They wanted to come back in 86 for the Cavaliers tour but were not allowed. Reinach replaced Mordt and Bartman replaced Louw. Actually Burger Geldenhuys was the 1st choice 6 but then he broke Dalton’s jaw.
21 Apr 2012, 15:10 pm
What is happening here today? So slow.
21 Apr 2012, 15:10 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-105:
yes i loved that series, pity it werent the ABs, remember going to ellis, that was still a cracking SA backline, in fact that team would have revolutionised the way ppl think of Springbok rugby and wouldve played the type of game the name Springbok was originally coined for.
21 Apr 2012, 15:11 pm
might catch up later for the sharks game if i get back in time, should be some interesting games this arvie, wouldnt like to bet on either.
21 Apr 2012, 15:12 pm
@cab(cab)-107: Yes, fantastic backs. Some of the best tries the Boks ever scored. Gerber, the 2 du Plessis, Naas, Reinach, Heunis, and Garth Wright.
21 Apr 2012, 15:14 pm
look there IS something to be said for standing firm and if one dies for a cause.. even if that cause might be a little dubious from inception.. sometimes the cause and effect laws of nature and of existence demands that dying is as much a part of living.. and history gotta take shape and get formed.. so the cannon fodder gets sacrificed for the veracious vagaries of some mogul emperor’s designs for war…
there is not really any rights or wrongs in creation or in action and reaction.. only the inevitability of living and dying.. like inhaling and exhaling .. or being eaten or eating.. or being free or being enslaved.. there are so many wrongs for every right.. and they gotta cancel each other out.. else the equation of life cannot happen from the alpha to the omega when the big bang is engulfed by the big crunch .. and the universe starts all over again.
In the meantime we find causes to live and die for and religions to preach and cry for about people we never knew from any other.. its the creation of existence that pretends to be real.. when back at the inception ranch its only a dream that seems due to its material make up… that the illusion of who it is that is dreaming is so painfully and explicitly real…
21 Apr 2012, 15:14 pm
@cab(cab)-108: Hard to call. Sharks do better us underdogs. Hopefully they will be rested and firing today. Chiefs are favorites though.
Bulls I’m also worried about. Always am.
21 Apr 2012, 15:15 pm
These Aussie games like the Vodofone Cup
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-109:
Garth Wright – One of the Best Bok halfbacks I have seen play.
21 Apr 2012, 15:16 pm
greentea: if you got your head out of your arse you would know that results between us & Oz ebb & flow, we’ve enjoyed good runs against them before & now they’re enjoying one, it doesn’t mean they have the depth to field 5 teams in super rugby you dumbfcuk.
test results have sweet buggerall to do with player numbers which is what i was talking about until you dragged the conversation towards your hobbyhorse.
:scratched record smiley:
21 Apr 2012, 15:18 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112: Yes, he was a great little 9 who did all the basics right. Quick to clear, good pass, good box kicks. He was way better than Christo Ferreria.
21 Apr 2012, 15:20 pm
Watch these tries,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJsB-OL73
21 Apr 2012, 15:24 pm
Sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJsB-OL730
21 Apr 2012, 15:28 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-113:
Very true…….re Oz v Boks….. Sa had the wood on Abs pre isolation… and in recent times Abs have…..who is to say the tide may turn again
21 Apr 2012, 15:30 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-113: good response to the trollwanker.
Talking of w*nkers, I’m trying to decide who is more boring once on their soapbox, skopshyte or ET?
21 Apr 2012, 15:31 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-110:
Enjoyed that……
21 Apr 2012, 15:35 pm
So I’d like to know who this Skyewalker really is. He’s a new name around here, but when he confessed to knowing skopshyte has been banned more times from Keo than Capo, I’m beginning to wonder if Charo’s suspicion that it is JustRugby or Gwant10 back under a new guise is correct…
21 Apr 2012, 15:35 pm
PrickBoks is Blank Panther, no doubt.
Seems the Keo drug is too much for some.
21 Apr 2012, 15:38 pm
Better get used to the war remembrance boys, in two years time it will have been a century from the start of the Great War. There will rightfully be a great deal made about it.
21 Apr 2012, 15:46 pm
A history lesson for skopshyte (source: Wikipedia):
When World War I broke out in 1914, the South African government chose to join the war on the side of the Allies. General Louis Botha, the then prime minister, faced widespread Afrikaner opposition to fighting alongside Great Britain so soon after the Second Boer War and had to put down a revolt by some of the more militant elements before he could send an expeditionary force of some 67,000 troops to invade German South-West Africa (now Namibia). The German troops stationed there eventually surrendered to the South African forces in July 1915. (In 1920 South Africa received a League of Nations mandate to govern the former German colony and to prepare it for independence within a few years.)
Later, an infantry brigade and various other supporting units were shipped to France in order to fight on the Western Front. The 1st South African Brigade – as this infantry brigade was named – consisted of four infantry battalions, representing men from all four provinces of the Union of South Africa as well as Rhodesia: the 1st Regiment was from the Cape Province, the 2nd Regiment was from Natal and the Orange Free State and the 3rd Regiment was from Transvaal and Rhodesia. The 4th Regiment was called the South African Scottish and was raised from members of the Transvaal Scottish and the Cape Town Highlanders; they wore the Atholl Murray tartan.
The supporting units included five batteries of heavy artillery, a field ambulance unit, a Royal Engineers signals company and a military hospital.
The most costly action that the South African forces on the Western Front fought in was the Battle of Delville Wood in 1916 – of the 3,000 men from the brigade who entered the wood, only 768 emerged unscathed.
Another tragic loss of life for the South African forces during the war was the Mendi sinking on 21 February 1917, when the troopship Mendi – while transporting 607 members of the 802nd South African Native Labour Corps from Britain to France – was struck and cut almost in half by another ship.
In addition, the war against the German and Askari forces in German East Africa also involved more than 20,000 South African troops; they fought under General Jan Smuts’s command when he directed the British campaign against there in 1915. (During the war, the army was led by General Smuts, who had rejoined the army from his position as Minister of Defence on the outbreak of the war.)
South Africans also saw action with the Cape Corps in Palestine.
More than 146,000 whites, 83,000 blacks and 2,500 people of mixed race (“Coloureds”) and Asians served in South African military units during the war, including 43,000 in German South-West Africa and 30,000 on the Western Front. An estimated 3,000 South Africans also joined the Royal Flying Corps.
The total South African casualties during the war was about 18,600 with over 12,452 killed – more than 4,600 in the European theater alone.
21 Apr 2012, 15:47 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-121: Good luck to your Sharkies later.
21 Apr 2012, 15:48 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-124: Cheers Kleuter – they will need it!
21 Apr 2012, 15:51 pm
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-125: Well you never know. They had a week off, completed a good tour. Motivation will be high. Also think Chiefs are a bit dof. Very talented team but not much kop.
21 Apr 2012, 16:14 pm
I love PS I Love you
21 Apr 2012, 16:15 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-116:
Thank you for that. Yes. And Great servant of EP rugby. Literally responsible for getting them to 4th place back in 1993 in CC.
21 Apr 2012, 16:16 pm
@brainstrust, are you drinking?
21 Apr 2012, 16:21 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-128: It was a great moment when Garth and Naas played together the first time. Garth was in school and on a rugby tour to Pretoria. They went for a braai at a teacher’s house and this coach’s son gave Garth Northern Transvaal socks worn by Naas. It became one of his most prized possessions.
A number of years later they played together in a test against NZ.
Great stuff.
21 Apr 2012, 16:23 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-113:
and you think you have the depth, pre 07′ you couldn’t buy a win, did you hear the Aussies calling for your teams to be culled when really they should have, the Cheetahs have won a couple of games after 16 years of sharing the wooden spoon with the Lions and in the early days the Bulls, you don’t have the depth for 5 teams either
21 Apr 2012, 17:06 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-130:
Great story – Thank you for sharing
I still remember when in 1993, He was the number 1 halfback in the country but he declined to Play for the Boks so he could focus on helping EP in the CC.
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