Injuries force rethink for Meyer
25 Apr 2012
Heyneke Meyer says his plan to field an experienced Springboks squad has been compromised by injuries to key players.
Meyer had repeatedly intimated that he would retain many of the senior Springboks who had served over the last eight years for the three-Test series against England in June. However, speaking at the conclusion of the second of three Springboks planning camps with selected players from the Bulls and Sharks in attendance, Meyer said injuries had changed his plans.
‘I must say when I started the team that I thought probably would start, and I’ve said I would give everyone a fair chance has changed a lot,’ Meyer said.
‘Like I said, I thought it would be an experienced side just to get us going and get the continuity because the guys know a lot of the stuff and lead the youngsters. But it’s changed a lot and I think we’ll go for a younger team than I expected to go with.’
Several Stormers players who keo.co.za understands were in Meyer’s plans are doubtful for the England series, while others from other franchises are only just returning from lay-offs.
Besides injuries, Meyer’s intentions have also been curtailed by by experienced midfielder Jaque Fourie’s announcement that he would be unavailable for selection as well as Fourie du Preez and Danie Rossouw’s uncertainty about their desire to continue their Test career.
Meyer added that his choice of captain would also be affected by the aforementioned factors.
‘Obviously I am looking at the captains of the five franchises and a few senior guys, but there are a injuries,’ he said. ‘I am actually quite happy that I didn’t announce the captain because I probably would have been in trouble. I think it is probably the right thing to wait until the first test match.’
Meyer added that that appointment would most likely be a short-term one for the duration of the series only.
110 Comments
25 Apr 2012, 20:35 pm
Blessing in disguise dragnons ….
25 Apr 2012, 20:35 pm
dragons …
25 Apr 2012, 20:39 pm
Fantastic news. Meyer knows he can move forward with a fantastic base of talent in this country, and stop the trend of picking experience/semi retired playwers living on well earned but now obsolete reputations.
25 Apr 2012, 20:57 pm
With Schalk out, I think Adriaan Strauss is the best choice for captain. He leads from the front, makes more correct decisions than most, and he deserves to lead a dynamo outfit. He is also a very good communicator.
25 Apr 2012, 21:00 pm
no excuses heyneke, just get on with the job man…
25 Apr 2012, 21:01 pm
The recipe is simple,pick in-form super 15 rugby players,experience and youth will balance out.
25 Apr 2012, 21:03 pm
@KeurboomPark(KeurboomPark)-4:
Bismarck will go into a terrible sulk if anyone is picked ahead of him as hooker imo
25 Apr 2012, 21:03 pm
bissie will throw a fit if he is an ‘impact player’ still his year
25 Apr 2012, 21:06 pm
So, if he is looking at franchise captains, Strauss, Strauss, Spies, Daniel and Div.
Senior Guys?
Habana, Pieterson, Steyn, Brussouw, DuPlessis.
Not great. That means Spies.
It should be one of the Strauss’ though.
Bismark must start and we have a 7 flank vacancy.
25 Apr 2012, 21:10 pm
this okies been reading keo.. or else his sidekick lieutenants have, and they been reporting to him that if he picks the old fogies and loses then he’s in big kak with the bok supporters so he better get with the program and pick current proactive players who are putting their hands up.
His biggest headache is who is gonna be captain.. that is the one selection he gonna have to get right, he’s been contemplating Matfield, FdP or Spies, neither of whom would be great choice.. so now he better stay up nights and think real hard who it gonna be.
This the squad he should be looking at
Steyn, Taute, Lambie
Aplon, JPP
JdV (c), Engelbrecht
De Jongh, Venter
Basson, Habana, Mvovo
Goosen, M. Steyn
Hougaard, Duvenhage
Kolisi, Stander, Spies
Elstadt, Coetsee
Brussow, Minnie
Bekker, Kruger
Etsebeth, Steenkamp
Oosthuizen, Malherbe
Bismark, Chili
Steenkamp, Greyling, Kitshoff
25 Apr 2012, 21:11 pm
A bit out the box but what about Brussow for skipper? He leads from the front, is in prime position to influence ref and is a player genuinely respected by friend and foe alike. It also keeps with the trend of other int loosie captains eg RM, LM (ex), TD, SW ect
25 Apr 2012, 21:16 pm
Chiliboy would make a good captain.
25 Apr 2012, 21:21 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-10:
Jeran de Villiers is high risk, not only as a player, but more so as a captain.
He is injury prone, and old (according to your definition).
So best case for Jean, even though I like him, is off the bench to offer defensive organization in the last 20.
25 Apr 2012, 21:21 pm
If Chili boy goes on as captain relegates Bismark to bench.. that’ll be the end of Bismark.. he’ll pack up shop and head for France.
25 Apr 2012, 21:22 pm
Jeran??? Jean
25 Apr 2012, 21:23 pm
We have learnt nothing if we do not apply the old fashioned rugby principle as follows.
PICK THE TEAM AND THEN THE CAPTAIN.
Simple. This is why Meyer will anounce the Captain when he knows what team he wants to select.
I think this is not so much panic induced by the old tppies limping around and juicing their pensions, but by the great ability he has seen for himself from the wide group of players he has had a good look at.
I could be wrong, but this indicates a reflective coach who can adapt to the circumstances. The last one we had like this was Kitch Christy. The rest have all failed to adapt enough to survive.
25 Apr 2012, 21:24 pm
Josh Strauss will be Captain.
25 Apr 2012, 21:25 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-17: Josh or Adriaan?
25 Apr 2012, 21:28 pm
JdV is the one player in SA who can command absolute respect, control and clear captaincy cred through a game more than any other candidate in the country
JdV should have been captain long ago..better than Matfield and better than Smit and most definitely better than Burger or Spies…or FdP.. only other candidate at that level would have been Juan smith before his long term injury.
So as far as senior status captaincy cred goes as well as player respect and accord with ref’s etc.. JdV is head and shoulders better than anyone else in SA..
As far as young captaincy cred goes.. the options would come from
Arno Botha, Nick Koster if either can command a starting position.
My Bok captain medium term would have been Frans Louw who went to Bath.. he would have made the best choice for interim Bok captain this year..
25 Apr 2012, 21:30 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-19:
He is injury prone. You can’t have a new captain every other week.
25 Apr 2012, 21:31 pm
Spies will be captain.
25 Apr 2012, 21:35 pm
Josh strauss captain? (sigh)
25 Apr 2012, 21:36 pm
@viewer(viewer)-22:
What is using of my name thing?
25 Apr 2012, 21:37 pm
he said josh…
25 Apr 2012, 21:40 pm
Oh kleuter on the keotv threas I asked PA if he’s coming back to keo.
I thought u left after reading ur reply to spies is wothless. He said spies must be chased off all rugby fields
25 Apr 2012, 21:40 pm
JdV is still the best choice for Bok captain as things stand right now..
Better than Spies, better than Matfield, better than FdP, better than Daniel, better than Josh strauss, better than Adriaan Strauss.
Make Spies captain and we lose to England.. how much you wanna bet..
If FdP were captain I don’t expect much better.. and if FdP, Matfield and Spies run on vs England we could face our first loss to England at home in a long time.
That selection above in @ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-10: is the better way to go
Pack should start
Gurthro, Bismark, Oosthuizen / Malherbe
Etsebeth, Bekker / Kruger
Brussow, Elstadt
Kolisi
(Beast / Greyling), Chili, (Kruger / Bekker), Coetsee / Stander
Backs
Hougaard, Goosen
(Basson / Engelbrecht), De Jongh, JdV (c), (Aplon / JPP)
F. Steyn
Duvenhage, Lambie, (JPP / Aplon)
25 Apr 2012, 21:41 pm
Oh kleuter on the keotv thread I asked PA if he’s coming back to keo.
I thought u left after reading ur reply to spies is wothless. He said spies must be chased off all rugby fields
25 Apr 2012, 21:42 pm
@viewer(viewer)-27:
LOL. No, still here. I can take it. I speak my mind, sometimes I get upset, but not for long.
If I lose today, I come back tomorrow with all guns blazing!
25 Apr 2012, 21:45 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-26:
It is good that you stand by your opinion.
But I disagree on the captaincy.
Some of your choices are not bad.
I would say we agree on about 50%.
25 Apr 2012, 21:47 pm
@viewer(viewer)-27:
As far as Spies is concerned.
I like him, but if I have to be honest, he is not the best 8 in the country. Perhaps he’ll do better in the last 20.
But still, he is the captain of my team, and I will defend all my team’s players.
25 Apr 2012, 21:48 pm
@skyewalker(skyewalker)-7:
I understand. Captain must be picked first, though.
25 Apr 2012, 21:49 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-9:
Put Bizzie at flank.
25 Apr 2012, 21:51 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-13:
Jean is the second best captain in the world. McCaw first.
25 Apr 2012, 21:52 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-12:
We have amazing hookers. Thanks to Long Street
25 Apr 2012, 21:52 pm
Flanks and locks have been the most successful Test captains worldwide
25 Apr 2012, 21:52 pm
@KeurboomPark(KeurboomPark)-33:
If you say so.
25 Apr 2012, 21:53 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-17:
A good choice. Josh has great character,
25 Apr 2012, 21:55 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-21:
Then we will lose. No clue. Wont be able to keep his reins on the chariot.
25 Apr 2012, 21:56 pm
@viewer(viewer)-35: What about hookers? John Smit, Sean Fitzpatrick, Kevin Mealamu…
25 Apr 2012, 21:56 pm
LMAO Keurboom re: JdV
Hope you joking though. . .
25 Apr 2012, 22:00 pm
Ok yes 2′s as well
25 Apr 2012, 22:02 pm
@viewer(viewer)-40:
Glad to cheer up the day. What was ever wrong with Spies on the wing. He was incredible there in the U20′s. Wonder who tricked him into the engine room. Would be my second choice wing after Habana. Devastating.
25 Apr 2012, 22:07 pm
@ashampoopaloo(joel1yahoo)-26: JdV doesn’t deserve to start, Skop. You’d be creating another John Smit scenario. If Bekker is healthy, make him captain.
25 Apr 2012, 22:12 pm
God, as long as we move away from a scenario where our seuntjies are getting slapped around with 10 minutes to go and the coach feels the need to send on his captain who he has taken off to steady the ship. That situation which we have seen as Bok Supporters reflects a non thinking team.
Ridiculous scenario illustrating a poor team leadewrship system.
Pick the captain after you have picked your team. All this expectation of a captain is ridiculous. Pick smart, hungry, good players. first. The natural leader will emerge from that situation. Who can say that the particular personality and understanding of a Matfield/DeVilliers or Smit will work with this new generation of players.
25 Apr 2012, 22:18 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-43:
NOOO! Delete that thought immediately. No ways. Never.
He will be knocked out on day one as captain.
25 Apr 2012, 22:20 pm
My letter is in the mail. My email was sent and video-clips were attached.
25 Apr 2012, 22:21 pm
@skyewalker(skyewalker)-7: Bissie has no argument.
Strauss is the best hooker currently in the country by some estimation. Chiliboy a good bet for second best.
25 Apr 2012, 22:23 pm
Anyway, it’s nice to hear Meyer talking some sense. Perhaps he has been reading the comments on Keo.
25 Apr 2012, 22:28 pm
@willievz(willievz)-47: I second that. At the moment, Strauss 1, Chili 2, Bismark 3.
Things can still change, but Bismark will have to pull up his socks.
25 Apr 2012, 22:33 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-49:
Bismarck has sunk to new depths. Good to see agree on Strauss.
25 Apr 2012, 22:36 pm
Bismark is just warming up. You are all right about the form of Strauss and Chilli but at his best Bismark will eat them both.
25 Apr 2012, 22:39 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-5:
“no excuses heyneke, just get on with the job man…”
Is Meyer not allowed to talk the press?
You’re just itching and waiting for Meyer to fail, aren’t you?
Your name should be Transparency, not Transformation.
25 Apr 2012, 22:44 pm
I can’t believe even Daniesaurus was on Meyer’s wishlist!
25 Apr 2012, 22:47 pm
@KeurboomPark(KeurboomPark)-50:
We are making progress. One down, 14 to go.
25 Apr 2012, 22:49 pm
@kaksioek(kaksioek)-53:
He will eat 90% of the S15 locks for breakfast.
25 Apr 2012, 22:50 pm
The biggest loss might be Jacques Fourie. No definite candidate to take his position.
25 Apr 2012, 23:06 pm
Adriaan Strauss for captain. Good leader and players get inspired by his runs and it fires them all up
25 Apr 2012, 23:10 pm
Also agreeing on Strauss #1 chilly 2 then bis. Strauss has always been consistent, he deserves a spot
25 Apr 2012, 23:13 pm
If jdv is back he can be Capt. With adriaan Strauss as vice
25 Apr 2012, 23:13 pm
Very True Kleuter.
I would like to see a Bok Juggernaught taking shape. Young or Old, they must be big and nasty.and Without compromise the front 5 must be a deeply unpleasant unit to play against. Test rugby exposes players that are lig in die broek without mercy.
25 Apr 2012, 23:13 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-56:
Totally agree about Mossie. I am also thinking that Habana will be an effective replacement, and will prove himself over three tests. JPP can keep his place on the wing.
25 Apr 2012, 23:19 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-60:
Etzebeth, Kruger. Job done. Body parts everywhere. Spionkop revisited.
25 Apr 2012, 23:24 pm
Lekker lag ek nou vir die klomp skape op die site.
You guys must be dumber than even I thought.
Amazing how you all jump for joy at Heyneke’s statement today.
Fools. He is just saying a lot of his PLAYERS will have to be younger than he would have preferred. Nowhere is he saying that his CAPTAIN is going to be a youngster.
Today’s statement simply makes it even MORE likely that he will go for a veteran captain, to steady the ship full of youngsters.
Bottomline:
If Vic is willing and able, he will be Heyneke’s captain. Especially now that Schalk, Jean, etc. won’t be around to add some steel to the team.
Start using your brains, sheeple.
25 Apr 2012, 23:28 pm
From my perspective the only “old” players that should never have been considered was Bakkies and Danie Rossouw.
If Bekker had been injured would a combo of Matfield, Kruger and Etzebeth really been that bad? Experience plus youth. Hopefully it will be Bekker, Kruger and Etzebeth.
As for Fourie, yes he is playing in another, lower league but I cannot believe at a still reasonable age of 30 that he will not be an asset. Other than Hougaard which scrummie is going to be backup? No one else has stood out to be honest. Since Fourie has the experience it is entirely reasonable that he was considered – although judging from what I have read he won’t be released by his club? So the point is moot.
But it is frustrating to see how people get on this bandwagon about “holding onto old players” when you are essentially only talking about two of them and one of them, Victor, only because there is potentially too many injuries amongst the new comers.
Players like JdV and Schalk are certainly not old. Should Steyn play ahead of JdV? Maybe, but there is certainly space for JdV on the bench and definitely in the squad. Schalk is injured so it doesn’t matter but he has always been a titan 80 minute player. That is if you can take your blinkers off. Again, even if you played him off the bench while giving a new guy a chance it would be fine. What is all this talk of dropping them out right? Knee-jerk thinking and posting. The irony is the same old people will with their next breath say what a shame it is that Juan Smith is injured… tickle me silly.
Most importantly you cannot play 6-7 new guys in a game. It will cause such disruption that those new and talented players will not be able to showcase their best. Finally, in an injury heavy environment like we have right now, the new players you blood will depend on how they complement the remaining veteran players. Sometimes a deserving youngster will miss out because he won’t be right for the balance of the 22.
25 Apr 2012, 23:33 pm
@STBUR(STBUR)-64:
12 Steyn
13 Habana
Nag vir die Chariot se Nyers
25 Apr 2012, 23:41 pm
World Cup Winners 2015
1.Coenie (Moenie)
2 Strauss
3 Jannie
4 Etzebeth
5 Kruger
6 Brussouw
7 Elstadt/Bizmark
8 Bekker
9 Hougie
10 Goosen
11 Spies
12 Steyn F
13 De Jongh
14 JPP
15 Taute
25 Apr 2012, 23:49 pm
Lol rwc first round knockouts.
26 Apr 2012, 00:00 am
looking forward to seeing Meisekind in the Bok jersey again…
26 Apr 2012, 00:00 am
Is HM looking already for excuses?
I would say give him a breathing space and a credit until it is shown he doesn’t deserve one, and that means losing test matches.
26 Apr 2012, 00:35 am
@poppa69(poppa69)-68:
yeah. in the lesbian bar. lol
26 Apr 2012, 01:33 am
Coenie. Strauss. beast
Etzebeth. Bekker
Kolisi. J. Potgieter
Duane
Habana. Hougaard
Goosen.
Jdv
Jdj
Aplon
Lambie / f steyn
26 Apr 2012, 01:38 am
I smell a Trol. Skoert poppy.
26 Apr 2012, 01:42 am
Chilly, kitchoff, Kruger, Albert’s /brussow, McLeod, r.ebersohn, mvovo/basson
26 Apr 2012, 01:42 am
@wmp11(wmp11)-71:
You are a Stormer right? Cause no one else will drop Brussow for Kolisi. And surely Marcel Coetzee is also better.
Bekker is way behind the ball game.
And Habana at 9?
26 Apr 2012, 01:49 am
Habbs at 11.. why would he b nine? Brussow has poor defence. Bekker will bounce back…if not go with Kruger or Sykes
26 Apr 2012, 01:52 am
Marcell is a good choice to
26 Apr 2012, 02:00 am
@wmp11(wmp11)-71:
Why? I don’t know. You tell me.
The reason I asked is because the whole team is written in order, from 1 tp 8, then 11, then 9 to10, then 12 to 15. Can you see why is is confusing?
Is Coenie you 1 or 3?
26 Apr 2012, 02:01 am
Ouch! My spelling is terrible tonight!
26 Apr 2012, 02:06 am
@wmp11(wmp11)-75:
Or if you placed the names according to the players actual positions aligned to the right, then I assume Beast is 3 and Coenie 1?
26 Apr 2012, 02:27 am
Haha ya I tried mapping the position s like u would see it from Scrum but it screwed up when I submitted.
1. Coenie/ kitchoff
2. Strauss/ chilly
3. Beast/ greyling
4 etzebeth/ sykes
5 bekkker/ kruger
6 brrussow / kolisi
7. J potgieter/ marcel
8 Duane / j Strauss
9 hougaard/ McLeod
10 goosen / steyn.
11 Habana / basson
12 jdv/ r ebersohn
13 jdj/ r ebersohn
14 aplon/ a ndungane
15 lambie / f steyn
26 Apr 2012, 02:31 am
Danie Roussouw ???
LOL LOL LOL
L O L
partnered by a Captain who is now a commentator.
Piet duh Silliers starting to look like Rod McQueen compared. This is going to be hilarious ! Argentina must be counting their lucky stars that theres 1 easybeat in the upcoming Rugby Championship.
26 Apr 2012, 02:37 am
Jaysus, hard to believe that has-beens like Habana and Ndugane still our premier wings.
26 Apr 2012, 03:09 am
The biggest hasbeen of em all is spies
26 Apr 2012, 03:11 am
Just worred bout his guns
26 Apr 2012, 03:17 am
Where are you getting d rossouw from?
26 Apr 2012, 05:47 am
Prickbok can’t spell. What a prick this dic. is!
26 Apr 2012, 05:54 am
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-44: You said it!!Can’t agree more.
26 Apr 2012, 06:00 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-49: @willievz(willievz)-47: We are not watching the same games. In a pack that is mediocre at best Bismarck is still playing good rugby.He is playing between two sub standard props and is still making the most steals of all the hookers in SA.(The Doc is not in good form at all.)Add to that , he is playing better every week.( admittedly he has to remember he is playing a team sport.
26 Apr 2012, 06:04 am
Optiplay
I don’t see that fire in Bismark this year. Hope he gets it back fast as it will be sad to see him on the bench (or worse) again this year.
26 Apr 2012, 06:04 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-55: Nowadays it looks as if he did.
26 Apr 2012, 06:05 am
Haven’t seen him since WC.
26 Apr 2012, 06:07 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-89: I would play Chilli ahead of Strauss.Admittedly Strauss is playing awesome rugby.But so is Liebenberg. Good hookers this year, and I agree unless Bismarck gets his old form back , he is in trouble.
26 Apr 2012, 06:52 am
On a different topic, has anybody noticed that at least two or three of the tries on the weekend were from obstructive play, but were allowed by the ref anyway? this makes me think that any team on attack should have an obstructive play guaranteed to score, just to chance once to see if it comes off because the ref is an idiot. This is especially useful against Kiwi refs (although Kaplan allowed one too this last weekend).
26 Apr 2012, 06:53 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-86:
I added an extra U for the slow Useless bucket of Urine
26 Apr 2012, 07:40 am
Spies is the ‘most likely’ captain of the current ACTIVE players. With that in mind, (and Burger/ JDV’s injury), the pack should have the below feel…
1. Kitschoff
2. Bismark? (experience only)
3. WP Nel
4. Etsebeth
5. Juandre
6. Brussow
7. Elstadt
8. Spies (c)
Bench (depending on 4/ 5 split), inluding two props when it’s 5;
Chilliboy, Greyling, Jannie?, Bekker?, J. Potgieter
26 Apr 2012, 08:47 am
@wooden spoon(wooden spoon)-52: “You’re just itching and waiting for Meyer to fail, aren’t you? ”
you’re talking kak as always.
as you were.
26 Apr 2012, 08:47 am
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-63: VC might be willing but he is not able. It would be the stupidest move on both coach and player if that should happen , have we not learned from our past mistakes ?
26 Apr 2012, 08:54 am
SANZAR have finally acknowledged that the Bulls defeated the Brumbies through blatant cheating by the match officials. The Brumbies outscored the Bullsh*tters by 5-2 tries but, somehow, a flurry of penalties for the home side and a very dodgy try was the difference – a clear knock-on by Steyn’ed Undies inexplicably missed by all 3 blind mice. Their names might give a clue
Marius Jonker and assistant referees Lourens van der Merwe and Stefan Breytenbach.
The last time the Bullsh*tters won the title, the vast majority of their home games were controlled by match officials with very similar names.
No wonder they struggled to finish better than 8th at the RWC with a fair, neutral, referee.
let the lobotomized losers continue to whinge while the rest of us
L O L
26 Apr 2012, 08:56 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-86:
btw
loved your comment at 78
LOL
26 Apr 2012, 08:58 am
@PrickBoks going South(PrickBoks going South)-98: And where is this so-called admission then Tackles?
26 Apr 2012, 09:12 am
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-51:
Schalk Britz is better
26 Apr 2012, 09:20 am
13Gerber.
Better at running in open spaces.
26 Apr 2012, 09:28 am
Tacitus.
I am responding to the article. If a senior player will captain the Boks, and as the article suggests Matfield; DuPreez and Burger are not available, that leaves Spies 0r Devilliers. But if this article is accurate, Meyer will also look at leaders within the franchises.
By your tone it seems you know something nobody here does.
26 Apr 2012, 09:48 am
@stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-100:
youre right
you’ll have to go online for foreign journalism to read reports based on the truth.
26 Apr 2012, 09:54 am
@wmp11(wmp11)-75: Brussouw has poor defence – where did you suck that fact from? The guy is at number 8 in the competition for tackles made.
26 Apr 2012, 09:59 am
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-103: he knows nothing. he just assumes because meyer is afrikaner and a former blue bulls coach he has the inside scoop/lane to meyer’s thoughts/ideas, that’s all.
ditto with vic.
8)
26 Apr 2012, 16:54 pm
Bismark has done 0 to enhance his reputation so far this season. Now that JS is finally out of his way, he’s not really stepping up. Chilli has enjoyed a very good season so far and Adrian Strauss just keeps on delivering good games one after the other. By my account Bismark has done nothing this year to warrant selection other than his reputation.
Drop the Dups, Jannie has always sucked anyway, and bring in Chilli as captain. He’s been groomed as such a long time ago, now let him have a go. I think he’d do remarkably well.
Of the franchise captains the only two who really seem to inspire their team on the field to any degree are the two Strausses. Spies is just a bad player, JdV’s time is over and who even captains the Sharks? They could certainly do with a captain at this stage in their dismal season.
26 Apr 2012, 18:15 pm
Makes tacked yes, but also not the most reliable defender. Ei
26 Apr 2012, 21:53 pm
Jong ek kan lekker lag vir julle sogenaamde rugby kenners, Frans Steyn gaan 12 speel en basta. Kolitjie het nie nkans nie, as bekker reg is sal hy 5speel saam elstad of Flip, ek sien iemand hier het sommer vir Steenkamp in. Met mossie weg is daar nie n goed genoeg 13 nie. Morne sal 10 wees. Ek dink en hoop die verassing sal op 8wees mer Daniel wat my keuse is. Op 7 soek ons n danie tiepe speler miskien josh of potties. 6 is vir heinrich bespreek. Bisie sal sy lynstaan werk moet opknap maar HM kan maar enige van die 4 kies. Op vleul is dit habs en jp en agter sal dit pat of pietersen wees.stutte sal coenie, greyling, rooikop, en beast wees. Met kruger as buiteperd
27 Apr 2012, 12:15 pm
Vasteses.
Jong, jy het 4 loskoppe genoem en maar net 1 ‘buiterperd’ Vaskoppetjie genoem. So kan n mens nie toets rugby speel nie of hoe?
Flip en Elstadt is nie naastenby die beste no 4′s wat ons het.
Ek dink ook dat Daniel n besonders goeie speler is wat ingestel kan wees.
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