KeoTV: Boks to stick with experience

KeoTV: Boks to stick with experience

25 Apr 2012

MARK KEOHANE names the two youngsters who should be in the Bok squad to play England as well as the two overseas players who could solve Heyneke Meyer’s No 7 selection headache.



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  • 101.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:10 pm

    @Kleuter(Kleuter)-98: :lol:

  • 102.the artist formerly known as gunther: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:10 pm

    @Taahirah(Taahirah)-91:

    :lol:

    yissus very snaaks.

    at this rate I’m going to have to sell tickets.

    kontant only.

  • 103.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:11 pm

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-97: You should watch this one. You’ll like it.

  • 104.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:11 pm

    @Tacitus(Deucalion)-97: He wants Goosen and Esther Beth in, along with Jacques Cronje and Big Joe. And don’t dare suggest otherwise, or the little fella will mock the snot out of you. He knows his ruggafooty, Lil’Keo.

  • 105.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:11 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-92:
    Let’s see your team Mr. Expert.

  • 106.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:12 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-100:

    Muffin/croissant top

  • 107.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:12 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-101:
    :-) :-)

  • 108.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:13 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-104:

    Magtag he is onbeskof

    Never come across such a rude arrogant twerp since HG

  • 109.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:13 pm

    @Kleuter(Kleuter)-98: If by “anti-establishment” you mean to suggest that I believe people under the age of 30 can play Test rugby, then yes – I am anti-establishment :lol:

  • 110.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:13 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-106: At least Baguette Botha still looks lean and mean.

  • 111.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:14 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-109:
    Jy is net lus vir kaksioek man.

  • 112.greatest13gerber: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:16 pm

    too early for Goosen. May crack in big spotlight. sweats too much for my liking.

    Steyn
    Lambie
    Elton

  • 113.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:16 pm

    @Kleuter(Kleuter)-111: No, I just genuinely disagree with Keo’s opinion. But let’s just be friends …

  • 114.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:18 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-113:

    Friends indeed.
    But come on now, you know HM will do the right thing.
    If there is one guy that can and will build a team, it is Heyneke.

  • 115.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:19 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112:

    Sweats too much? LMAO!!!

  • 116.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:20 pm

    @Kleuter(Kleuter)-114: I want to believe … but not in a bunch of over-the-hill Bullies.

  • 117.>^..^< katman: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:20 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112: We’re talking about giving him game time, not a back rub.

  • 118.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:23 pm

    Greyling/Beast (if he makes a successful comeback in time)/Kitshoff
    Chiliboy/Bismark (Chiliboy better than Bismark at the moment IMO)
    Jannie (nobody else really)
    Etzebeth (outstanding)
    Bekker/Kruger (if Bekker is injured, Kruger looks pretty good)
    Brussow/CJ Stander (Brussow hasn’t impressed me much this year, CJ Stander is a great player though perhaps less of an out-and-out fetcher. The law interpretations have changed though)
    Elstadt/Marcell Coetzee (both hard men, Alberts has been a bit kak this year)
    Spies (I think he has played better this year and Vermeulen is now injured)
    Hougaard (dynamic)
    Goosen (class)
    Willie le Roux/JJ Engelbrecht (Willie has been great for the Cheetahs, JJ has been very impressive with limited game time. Habana is playing better, but too little too late)
    Frans Steyn
    JP/Taute (will both look better in a Bok team. JJ Engelbrecht has actually been great here when coming on for the Bulls, and may be worth a shot too)
    Aplon (dynamic, great boot)
    Lambie (solid)

  • 119.Transformation: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:23 pm

    here’s one on the guppys new great white hype Pieter-Steph du Toit aka PSdT.

    Pieter-Steph du Toit, the 19-year-old lock who made his debut for the Sharks in Super Rugby this weekend has, as reported yesterday, been included in this week’s Bok planning group. The young man from Swartland Hoër in Malmesbury is the grandson of a Bok legend from the same region, legendary Boland strongman Piet “Spiere” du Toit.

    Piet du Toit was a hugely powerful player, plucked from the obscurity of the Stellenbosch under 19s, where he was playing flank, and turned into a powerful front ranker by Doc Craven. He went on to play 14 tests at tight head prop, between 1958 and 1961 and is still widely considered to be one of the strongest men ever to wear the green and gold – at least relative to other who played in the same era. Du Toit senior played his last test at the age of 25 and then went on to become a successful wine farmer , acquiring the Kloovenburg estate in the Riebeeck Valley in the late 50s. His son Pieter (Steph’s dad) runs the estate today.

    Spiere, alas, passed on in 1996, at the age of just 60.

  • 120.the artist formerly known as gunther: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:27 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112:

    are we auditioning for the boks or a pompfliek?

  • 121.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:29 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-118:

    Not bad.
    Don’t agree with all, but at least you showed that you are a bit more open-minded than….who was it again? PW?
    :-)

  • 122.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:31 pm

    @Kleuter(Kleuter)-121: Cheers. I honestly believe a team like that would beat the sort of team Keo is proposing. But we all have our little ideas …

  • 123.Kleuter: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:33 pm

    Later.

  • 124.greatest13gerber: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:34 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-117:

    mean Goosen hasnt got nerves of steel for test rugby yet.

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-118:

    where is the OVS hooker Strauss??. I think Taute could be a bolter.

  • 125.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:35 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-124: Yeah, Strauss should be considered. Never seems to make mistakes.

  • 126.greatest13gerber: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:36 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-118:

    agree with your other thoughts to especially about Jannie!!. But I would still choose someone like Cilliers over him.

  • 127.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:38 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-126: It may be worth a shot. I don’t know enough about scrummaging to make a decision on that. Jannie seemed to come good last year, but then seems to have lost it again this year. He would probably be more motivated for the Boks. Something seems to be wrong in Durban.

  • 128.greatest13gerber: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:43 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-127:

    IMO, he simply doesnt dominate enuf. Solid but nothing more. Natal is going through bad patch at moment. S15 campaign all over the place. Jannie goes missing in the loose as well.

  • 129.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:45 pm

    @greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-128: But we don’t have a 3 in SA that dominates, so I’ll take solid!

  • 130.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:46 pm

    One of the nicest things things about reading through this thread, is that there is a serious lack of provincialism in it for a change!

    Nice work guys :)

  • 131.FFF: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:47 pm

    Weren’t the same journo saying things like ……”we need to be gentle with Goosen and not rush him in…ect”

    Keo and Co do more u turns then a fleet up taxi’s before a metro road block

  • 132.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:48 pm

    Is this Kebble lighty a LH or a TH? I really hope he is a TH… we need more than a few of those.

  • 133.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:49 pm

    @>^..^< katman(katman)-104:

    Did you catch the Santam response to Nando’s on radio this AM?

  • 134.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:50 pm

    @Dazzler(Dazzler)-132: LH, I’m afraid:

    According to the WP Vodacom Cup coach, John Dobson, Kebble is a tremendous prospect who has the ability to go all the way to the top.

    “Ollie is a special player. Although he prefers loose head, he has the ability to pack down on both sides of the scrum. He is definitely more mobile and skilful than his dad,” quipped Dobson.

    “I have no doubt that he has the potential to become a Springbok,” he added.

  • 135.Dawn: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:52 pm

    @FFF(FFF)-131:

    :lol:

  • 136.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:57 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-134:

    Well if he has the ability, maybe they should start grooming him as a tighthead. He’s only 19 after all…

  • 137.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 16:59 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-133:

    Nando’s accepted the challenge and already delivered this afternoon, a day early.

    Nice to see :)

  • 138.FFF: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:01 pm

    @Dazzler(Dazzler)-137:

    Every month for a year ………….. thats what you call duel publicity

  • 139.kaksioek: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:02 pm

    Cheers all

  • 140.keo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:03 pm

    @Dawn(Dawn)-66: sweetie you’ve been on your knees for a decade already

  • 141.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:03 pm

    @FFF(FFF)-138:

    Clever marketing by both parties… they both come out of this the heroes.

    And of course great that the kids benefit too. This is what PR should be all about!

  • 142.keo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:04 pm

    @Michael(mikeybrass)-71: my humblest apologies. How careless of me. Oh well then that team must be a goer

  • 143.keo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:06 pm

    @FFF(FFF)-74: He rates Lambie more a fullback than a 10

  • 144.FFF: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:07 pm

    @Dazzler(Dazzler)-141:

    Would no be surprised if it was the same agency……..

  • 145.keo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:11 pm

    @kaksioek(kaksioek)-113: and good on you … how dull a day if we all shared one voice. Different opinions make for even more different opinions which make for a more informed individual

  • 146.Hondo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:12 pm

    That ‘experience’ which carried the Boks at the 2010/2011 Tests Seasons yielded a cumulative 28% success rate against the Big Five (NZ, Aus, Poms, France, Ireland)
    The way to go :(

  • 147.Dazzler: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:13 pm

    @FFF(FFF)-144:

    Doubt it, a friend of mine is on Nando’s marketing team and she didnt mention it, but you never know… I’ll ask her!

  • 148.keo: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:13 pm

    @FFF(FFF)-131: I said integrate him into the system and let him play Sup Rugby without fear of failure. That was before the start of the comp. Yet he has shown in his Sup Rug debut season that good enough is old enough.

  • 149.FFF: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:15 pm

    @Dazzler(Dazzler)-147:

    does she work for Black River FC @ Jupiter

  • 150.theonlylionsfanincapetown: Reply to this comment
    25 Apr 2012, 17:18 pm

    I’m with Keo on Etzebeth, but not Goosen (yet). Keo’s forgotten a number of other stand out youngsters, such as Marcell Coetzee, CJ Stander and Siya Kolisi. All loosies ironically! I wouldn’t go oversease for more loosies and I wouldn’t bring back Matfield either. Bekker and Van der Merwe have enough experience for the Poms and there are good youngsters coming through like Etzebeth and Juandre Kruger. My match day 22 would be: Lambie, Basson, De Jong, Frans Steyn, Morne Steyn, Fourie Du Preez, Spies, Brussoux, Bekker, Flip Van der Merwe, Alberts (if fit)(Duane Vermeulen), Jannie Du Plessis, Bismark Du Plessis, Beast Mtwarira – reserves, Hougaard, Jantjes, Ralepelle, CJ Van der Linde, Gurthro Steenkamp, Etzebeth, Duane Vermeulen (if fit)(Marcell Coetzee).

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