Saru, franchises to hold talks
8 May 2012
The South African Rugby Union and five franchises are set for a showdown, with the key point of discussion likely to be the implications of the Kings’ inclusion in Super Rugby.
While Saru spokesperson Andy Colquhoun could provide no details on the agenda, it is expected that the prickly issue of how a sixth South African franchise will be accommodated in next year’s tournament will be worked through. In January Saru’s general council guaranteed the Kings’ inclusion in 2013. However, they had no clear plan as to how to decide which franchise lost out.
Click here to listen to Keo’s radio interview with Darren Scott about the Kings
They attempted to bully Sanzar into including a sixth franchise, but, speaking to keo.co.za, CEO Greg Peters shattered those hopes by insisting that the tournament structure had been agreed on by all franchises and sold to the broadcasters and commercial partners in a deal that runs until 2015.
‘The reality is that expansion of Super Rugby is not possible at this stage,’ Peters told keo.co.za. ‘Before their inclusion, the Kings’ aspirations were discussed in detail. How they are accommodated is a domestic issue for South Africa. And while we are always open to dialogue on this issue, it is incumbent upon them to make the necessary adjustments to facilitate the Kings’ inclusion.’
Saru later issued a statement saying that they were preparing to take a delegation to meet Sanzar representatives in order to lobby their cause, but later explained they needed more time to prepare their case.
In the absence of a clear agenda one can confidently assume this issue will take precedence. The Times quoted Colquhoun as saying: ‘If any decisions are taken, they cannot be implemented at that meeting and would have to go to the Saru general council before coming into effect.’ Colquhoun also confirmed that CEO Jurie Roux and president Oregan Hoskins would be among those attending the meeting.
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8 May 2012, 12:32 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-84:
Why do you say not as good?
8 May 2012, 12:33 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-33: Bath wanted him to extend by 3 years as captain and his market value (French clubs also wanted him) was 350 000.
He did return for considerably less – and if you know the guy you would also know he is not motivated by finance but by the belief he can make a difference. The lure to him was to be among the Kings’ Super Rugby pioneers and be a part of the history of a region that will always be home to him.
He played for EP as a 19 year old before being signed by the Sharks and he committed exclusively to EP on his return in the build-up to next year’s Sup Rug comp.
Have an opinion on him, have a view on his rugby, but don’t confuse that with who the person is. I have said it in every interview. I certainly won’t apologise that he is a good mate.
And yes I think he is a bloody good player who will prove it again to the SA public in next year’s Super Rugby comp
8 May 2012, 12:36 pm
@keo(keo)-102: that seems to be a big IF the Kings actually play next year?
What happens if they get shafted again?
8 May 2012, 12:38 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-95: Very good thanks. But it’s not the size of the bandwidth that counts, it;s what you do with it…..
Hellwho am I kidding. It’s the size that counts.
8 May 2012, 12:38 pm
@keo(keo)-102:
I hope you’re right, Luke Watson in 2006 was a fine player, if he can replicate those performances…
8 May 2012, 12:39 pm
@keo(keo)-102:
Keo…
How come he hasn’t been playing for the Kings…? Or at least I haven’t seen him in highlights of the few Kings games I’ve managed to see…
Is he injured…?
What happened and how long is he out for…?
8 May 2012, 12:39 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-104: all about how many up- and downloads you can do
8 May 2012, 12:43 pm
@keo(keo)-102: Ok so I got the amount right.
I’ve had some rugby players as clients over the years, both Springboks and other guys playing overseas so I have a reasonable idea of what they earn.
The fact I am not a huge fan of Luke is just a personal opinion, but as i said to Transie, it’s not like I hate the guy or anything. That seems to be the viewpoint of some who cannot believe that you could not either love him or hate him. If I spent time with him I may well come to change my mind, but its like that with many things.
8 May 2012, 12:43 pm
@RL(RL)-87: I’d be very interested to learn the ratio of athlete to support staff * at this year’s games. Last time round it was ridiculous.
* including the family, agents, therapists and support staff of the support staff.
8 May 2012, 12:44 pm
@RL(RL)-99: look chap, you said the “corrupt anc cadre said” and i corrected you, capische.
8 May 2012, 12:46 pm
@trupisero(trupisero)-107:
This could go south in a bad way.
8 May 2012, 12:46 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-83:
Victor’s suggestion would be even easier if the CC simply fell into the RSA S15 conference… as it stands the 5 home and away games of the conference represents the best of RSA rugby players… the CC has long been down-graded and does not.
8 May 2012, 12:48 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-108:
exactly… it doesn’t always have to be one extreme or the other…
8 May 2012, 12:50 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-108: if it walks like a duck & quacks like one is usually is a duck M
8 May 2012, 12:52 pm
@ufo(ufo)-113: ja, one can sit on the fence
8 May 2012, 12:54 pm
@sharks_lover(sharks_lover)-65:
I think you must take a look at your Sharks before you start trowing stones at the Lions supporters.
Round 10 2012(2011)
Blues – 24564 (17,301)
Saders – 17501 (15,010)
Canes – 14716 (10,143)
Chiefs – 12013 (7,766)
Hlands – 16533 (9,413)
Waratah – 20812 (20,493)
Brumbies – 13199 (13,110)
Force – 14688 (16,201)
Rebels – 13560 (17,141)
Reds – 32679 (33,600)
Lions – 23599 (22,351)
Stormer – 40315 (41,850)
Bulls – 32790 (32,105)
Sharks – 23288 (29,140)
Cheetah – 23766 (20,187
8 May 2012, 12:56 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-114:
In SA Rugby, it could also be a ******* amazing chicken!
8 May 2012, 12:56 pm
PA
Short answer IMO (I’m no expert) is difficulty in recruiting the right playing and coaching talent to the sixth franchise. Yeah we can have 6 but we’ll have a new team that even the lions can put 30 or 40 points over. But as Tac said above, we choose 3 good teams that can win the prize or 6 so so teams
8 May 2012, 12:57 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-115:
exactly… one can sit on the fence… no space for two… and you’ve sorta made it your own…
not being extreme doesn’t equate to sitting on the fence… just means being considered in your approach and more rational in your comments…
8 May 2012, 12:59 pm
@PissAnt(PissAnt)-117:
good one!
8 May 2012, 13:01 pm
Keo was here?
8 May 2012, 13:02 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-116:
stormers comfortably ahead there i see…
8 May 2012, 13:03 pm
@keo(keo)-102: didn’t your client also say that he wanted to lead the Kings to Currie Cup qualification? What happened there? Was he injured when a “black” Boland team moered his transformed “white” Kings team?
Face it Keo, the Kings claim to superrugby participantion is based on weak transformation claims if they all they are interested in buying is “white” players from the Lions to fill their white elephant stadium so that your connected buddies can line thier pockets … lets not talk about what you and Luke stand to gain financially.
@transformer how do you know that that report was not the work of a corrupt ANC cadre … and I can still see the kak on your lips.
8 May 2012, 13:04 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-116: like i asked yesterday, where do you source these numbers?
plus the GLRU has resorted to “BUY ONE GET ONE FREE” schemes to convince people to get to the Coke Blik, same with the Cheetahs selling Super Rugby tickets for R20 to UOVS students.
8 May 2012, 13:06 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-114: You don’t know me well enough to make that judgement.
8 May 2012, 13:07 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-124: which is worse, selling test tickets for a lowly England team to the poor hordes at 500 bucks a pop or selling tickets at reasonable prices to drunk students?
8 May 2012, 13:08 pm
In support of Matfield’s idea, I also think we should forget the regional team system i.e. WP should play Super Rugby as WP etc. Forget Stormers and all that. Teams like the Bulls and Stormers barely use players from the other unions in their region anyway. The only team that rely a lot on the other unions in their region is the cheetas, with all the Griquas players in their team.
8 May 2012, 13:10 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-124: you can visit the SARU web site for the attendance figures … you can also get the full prices for all test matches there … nor just some selected stands
8 May 2012, 13:16 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-124:
BUY ONE GET ONE FREE,show me where you dug this bullsh1t from, and as for the figures they have been collected by a NZlander on planetrugby. He does them every week.
8 May 2012, 13:19 pm
This one is going to end in tears.
8 May 2012, 13:20 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-129: can you believe that EP rugby is selling tickets for a lowly England match at the same price as 3N ticket prices.
8 May 2012, 13:32 pm
The Southern Kings are not a side of the region which should include players from Border EP & SWD. Where are they in the mix? Where is the unified face of the Eastern Cape or is this the Cheeky & Solly dog and pony show? Where is SARU’s risk assessment on the financial fall out that will effect all unions as well as SARU.
8 May 2012, 13:41 pm
Good to see the Mighty Elephants Rise again!!
8 May 2012, 13:55 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-133: Courtesy of Mr Chad Kroeger:
“Climb into the ring for a battle that you can’t win
Swing as hard as you can swing, it will still mean nothing
Should’ve seen it coming
It had to happen sometime
But you went and brought a knife
To an all out gun fight
And the only thing to save
Is the banner that you wave
To be wrapped around your grave
You’ve gone too far
(get up, get up)
Who do you think you are
(get up so we can finish this)
Is this what you came for
(get up, get up)
Well this means war
(get up so we can finish this)
Say anything you want
But talk will get you nowhere
The only thing you’ve brought was psychological warfare
Well there’s no getting out
And now you got to wonder
Who will dig you out when you’re six feet under
And the only thing to save
Is the banner that you wave
To be wrapped around your grave
You’ve gone too far
(get up, get up)
Who do you think you are
(get up so we can finish this)
Is this what you came for
(get up, get up)
Well this means war
(get up so we can finish this)“
8 May 2012, 14:09 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-133: Please remind me when they were mighty, any year will do ? I have nothing against EP which used have an affiliation to Transavaal in the early 90′s but the Kings is SARU grown pile of manure with the old gaurd of SARU running the the Nelson Mandela stadium.
8 May 2012, 14:10 pm
All this opinion about the Lions vs Kings are really stupid. The facts are simple , the Kings or rather EP has been promised participation in Super rugby for the last few years. This year SARU had to make good and officially said they will play super rugby from next year. They deserve to be there as much as the other provinces , the fact that someone must make way for them is SARU fault not the Kings.
So why does the Kings deserve to be ahead of the Lions ? They don’t really but the Kings deserve a chance and one team must lose out , one of the current teams playing super rugby and at this stage that is the Lions.
Historically they have been poor and this year that trend continued. Sure they lost a lot of players but at the same time so has the Bulls , Stormers etc. The difference is that the other Unions planned and recruited better.
Last year CC the Stormers took some risk’s and played their youngsters while their Boks are away. The gambled paid off and we can see how the likes of Carr,Kolisi,Etzebeth and both the props , then off course there is the Bulls youngsters as well that played for WP last year.
The Argument that the Kings cannot even win at CC holds zero water and is just short sighted. Let me say this clearly , the Kings CC team will not be the Kings Super rugby team !! They will recruit new players. No player will committ and lose money until they know that they will play super rugby! How will the Kings sign anyone ? Alan Solly said that they ID some potential players and I believe some from the UK so SA will gain from that ! The only problem I have is that they are using a Kiwi coach.
Lastly , Luke Watson gave up a huge salary and the captaincy of Bath to commit to the Kings , he is def not in it for the money. People just love to hate
8 May 2012, 14:24 pm
@RL(RL)-123: hahahaha take the hit and move on charlie, you were wrong, i call you out…deal with it
8 May 2012, 14:24 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-134:
lol I dont pften say Thank you to a CT showpony
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-135:
1993
@sparticus(sparticus)-136:
Luke Watson has unfortunately lift long lasting imprint on SA rugby with his actions in recent years. But truth be told, a fine player he was but not right sort for Boks. Other then Brussouw?? how many small loose forwards have worn the Bok colors on a regular basis and commandered a test spot in recent years??
Luke is now playing rugby to serve his community and he should be appluaded for that. There are not many like him in professional sport today. Especially when he could have being making millions in Europe.
this passionate trait runs strong in his family as we all know.
8 May 2012, 14:27 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-129: are you denying that for the Stormers match at Coke Tin the tickets were going for “BUY ONE GET ONE FREE”?
8 May 2012, 14:27 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-135:
Yes. even today EVERY union in SA outside the big 4 (NTvl, Tvl, Natal, WP) are feeder unions. How many CT born players in WP side?? and such.
My blood is blue, my heart is Despatch
Regardless of the politics, we must accept what ever happens. So if the MIghty elephants are back..I will smile.
8 May 2012, 14:34 pm
SARU.Mistah Kurz dying words.Oh the horror.The
horror.
Thanks Mr Conrad.
8 May 2012, 14:41 pm
@umkhonto(umkhonto)-129: where do i get what “bullshit”?
Lions slash ticket prices
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2012-03-20 14:08
Johannesburg – Coca-Cola Park
will be the place to be on Saturday,
March 24 when the Lions take on
the Stormers in their Vodacom
Super Rugby clash at 19:10.
Tickets have been priced as
follows for the North and
South stands:
Adults:Two-for-one special. Buy
one ticket for R60 and get one free
Students:Two-for-one special.
Buy one ticket for R30 and get one
free
Scholars:Tickets cost R10 each
Tickets are available at the Coca-
Cola Park Ticket Office between
08:00 and 16:00 from Monday to
Friday.
On Saturday at the stadium,
scholars will pay just R10 and
students R15 each behind the
poles.
For those who prefer to sit higher
up in the stands, tickets are priced
at just R35 each – a 50% discount
per ticket for tickets in the East
Upper stand.
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8 May 2012, 14:44 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-138: In my opinion Luke is an excellent leader and rugby player , maybe not test match material but def at Super rugby level.
8 May 2012, 14:45 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-137:
Cheers transformer … we will talk more about how hordes of poor are being charged 3N ticket prices for a lowly England match
8 May 2012, 14:53 pm
@sparticus(sparticus)-143:
I agree. He would walk into the England team though!
8 May 2012, 15:04 pm
Sh!ts about to hit the fan!
8 May 2012, 15:24 pm
Down a Lion, feel satisfied.
8 May 2012, 15:25 pm
@Oranjebliksemblou(Oranjebliksemblou)-146: yep, the Kings will be shelved again, only to be revived when SARU wants another guarantee for a world cup bid
if SARU can’t raise its own billion pounds then the ’95 world cup was the last one ever in SA.
8 May 2012, 15:34 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-142:
And so they damn well should… any stadium with any fiscal nouse would… more bums on seats = more food and beverage revenue for starters… which can add millions to their bottom line over a season.
8 May 2012, 15:40 pm
@bryce_in_oz(bryce_in_oz)-149: hehehehehe get them sloshed hey
how much is a ticket to a rebels game in comparison?
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