KeoTV: Stormers have X factor, Sharks don’t

KeoTV: Stormers have X factor, Sharks don’t

9 May 2012

AJ VENTER on what the Sharks are missing this year and why the Stormers and Chiefs will contest the Super Rugby final in Cape Town.



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  • 201.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 10:55 am

    @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-195:

    I smaak that name.

  • 202.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 10:56 am

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-200: :lol:

  • 203.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 10:57 am

    @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-195:

    Remember the Coastal Sharks? They wore those red, white and black striped rugger jerseys. I think it was the Super 10 days.

  • 204.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 10:58 am

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-201:

    Of course you would.

    In hindsight, maybe the only way for Natal supporters to experience the joys of winning a Super Rugby trophy would be if the Sharks merge with the Bulls.

    The Bull Sharks.

  • 205.Great White Shark: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:00 am

    @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-204:

    I thought up that one already. Another name for that team in the past was the Springboks.

  • 206.mshiniwami: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:00 am

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-203:

    Nah it was Super 12 days..Shocking kit.

    But nothing was worse than Stormers multicoloured abomination around same time…

  • 207.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:01 am

    @Great White Shark(Predawn)-203:

    I think they were the Coastal Sharks from 1998 to about 2006, when the Southern Spears was formed.

  • 208.race of tan: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:03 am

    Great White Shark – Just checked Gary Pagel’s stats he was a wopping 119 kgs. I do wonder if the Boks were just as big before proffessionlism as they are now!! No wonder they steam rollered everybody during the amatuer days!!!!

    Have never seen Strauli, he was also 109kg in his day according to genslin.us.

    I saw Japie Mulder and Dalton out once at Foxies in Sandton joburg, man i am giving away my age here a bit!!! Dalton was huge, Japies legs were huge!! Met Hennie Le Roux at seventies(MidRand), little tank.

    I also was the french blondie player at sarries, Castaignède, built like a small tank!!

  • 209.race of tan: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:06 am

    Great White Shark – Yes Andre Snyman one of my favourite Bok players but he never regained his of 98 after breaking both his ankles. He was also a wopping 100kg very big for a centre. Pieter Muller must have been some size too!!

  • 210.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:07 am

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-206: remember the non white folk all supporting the canes in EL?? one of the reason the Sharks left that fold is no support there??

    and of course the financial losses etc

  • 211.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:11 am

    @race of tan(race of tan)-208: Gary Pagel comes from a family of Circus Strongmen. A beast of a man and probably one of our best and strongest props ever. Too bad he developed a rep for dirty play (not always undeserved) and went overseas.

    Struck fear into many a LH prop over the years, but a decent bloke off the field.

  • 212.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:12 am

    @race of tan(race of tan)-209:

    One of the biggest players I’ve seen is Richard Metcalfe, ex Scottish lock, 7 feet tall and about 130kg, absolute giant of a man.

  • 213.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:19 am

    Jonah Lomu was also no slouch in the gym, extremely strong.

    I believe he was able to squat over 300kg.

  • 214.cane: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:21 am

    @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-212:
    Ever see Olivier Merle?

  • 215.stormersboy: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:21 am

    @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-213: He was, I believe 118kg’s. That’s a lot of wing.

  • 216.RedMan: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:24 am

    @cane(cane)-214: I saw Merle in Pretoria during the WC in ’95.

    Scary looking dude

  • 217.WP Till I Die: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:38 am

    @cane(cane)-214:

    Merle was a thug.

    A big one.

  • 218.cane: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:43 am

    @RedMan(RedMan)-216: @WP Till I Die(WP-Forever)-217:

    Merle was an Angel in White compared to Bakkies.

    8)

  • 219.nama1: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 11:43 am

    So, the Stormers players probably also use AXE, hence the X-factor, while the Saarkies are still using up their stockpiles of EGO.

    Following some of the Saark supporters on Keo, they probably also into EGO. Big time

  • 220.sharks_lover: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 13:02 pm

    @nama1(nama1)-219: Oh BS the Stormer own the EGO factory

  • 221.bananaboy: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 13:12 pm

    @cab(cab)-150: Interesting point Cab and I agree that you need to dominate in terms of possession, however the concern I have as always with SA rugby is the overemphasis on brute strenght rather than technique or skill. Physically SA sides tend to be bigger than our Antipodean counterparts yet we tend to play rugby without the ball. Our opponents are not only masters at retrieving the ball but also keeping hold of it.

    Our sides tend to rely on putting pressure on through brute force and thereby scoring off the mistakes of the opponents. I would like to see more creativity and technique being used combined with the already present brute force and this is where I think the Sharks are trying to take their game. Develop an attacking mindset based on a good skillset presupposing that everything starts with the need to gain and retain possession.

    An example in question is when Bismarck gets stripped of the ball in contact by a flyhalf simply because of poor technique and lack of support play. By the way this also happened to Pedrie when playing for Ulster against Edinburgh in the semi final of the Heineken cup.

  • 222.Slumtown: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 15:40 pm

    @mshiniwami(mshiniwami)-169: Yeah I also think Jantjes threatens the gain line the best of the lot but to be fair he often makes bad decisions and gets isolated and turns over ball. Tackling also a little light in my opinion. I would definitely have him around as an option but maybe he needs some time with good players to bring out the best in him. Sometimes he does wonderful things and other times makes some silly mistakes. Time will tell. If you insist in Elstadt I would then simply keep him on the flank and move Alberts in to lock. I´m not sold on Alberts – he´s dropped off the pace a lot. I know what he´s capable of but he seems to have lost the hunger. Somethings not right with him. I maintain the loose combo is becoming a problem and should we continiue with this insane run of knee injuries on loosies we may well be scrambling come June tests. I pray for no more injuries.

  • 223.bananaboy: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 16:55 pm

    @Slumtown(Slumtown)-222: Alberts still carrying the effect of his shoulder injury in my opinion. He should have had a longer time to rest to be honest, but he will be bcak.

  • 224.Neilster: Reply to this comment
    9 May 2012, 17:43 pm

    What an absolute twaddle, Sharks don’t lack X-factor they lack accuracy in the basics!

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