Carr’s season is done
13 May 2012
Allister Coetzee confirmed on Sunday that Stormers No 8 Nizaam Carr has torn his ACL and has been ruled out for the rest of the campaign.
The Stormers have already lost Schalk Burger, Duane Vermeulen and Nick Koster for extensive periods due to injury. They brought in Canadian loose forward Jebb Sinclair during the week to bolster their back-row ranks, but suffered another blow during Saturday’s game against the Cheetahs when Carr went down with a serious knee injury.
After the game, Coetzee said that he expected Carr’s lay-off to be a lengthy one. It was confirmed following further tests on Sunday that Carr has sustained serious damage and will miss the rest of the season.
Coetzee added that he may have to promote one of the Vodacom Cup forwards for next week’s clash against the Waratahs. There is also the possibility that a forward from outside of the region may be recruited.
Coetzee did say he was impressed with the way Sinclair performed when asked to replace Carr during Saturday’s match.
Sinclair only arrived in South Africa on Wednesday, and has had minimal time to adapt to the Stormers’ structures.
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12 May 2012, 22:12 pm
Vuilgat Cheetahs!!First the Bulls came to Cape Town trying to beat us with vuilgat tactics and now these scum from Bloem.Both times they lost ,so what next now boys?
12 May 2012, 22:17 pm
Yip, vuilgat Cheetahs but thanks for the win, and next week they gonna klap those guppies.
12 May 2012, 22:20 pm
Luke Watson?
12 May 2012, 22:46 pm
sinclair didnt know what the fcuc to do on the field today
12 May 2012, 22:52 pm
@saru1983(saru1983)-4:
Disagree
He had to fly in from N hemispehere had little time to practice with Stormers
And had to come in an play 8, with hardly any practice time or game time
He defended well, made a number of tackles including a few defending the line down to 14 men, and carried the ball well and protected it
he was fine at the base of the scrum and never gave away a turn over or a penalty
So explain why he was so Kuk?
12 May 2012, 23:40 pm
thats pretty bad luck! hurry back schalkie we need you!
13 May 2012, 00:03 am
Rynhardt Elstadt is a vuilgat as well.
13 May 2012, 00:07 am
tough luck nizaam…
but time’s on your side… you will be back…
13 May 2012, 01:02 am
Vuilgat Stormers. Vulgar fans.
13 May 2012, 01:03 am
don’t be surprised if bekker is also sidelined….
13 May 2012, 01:04 am
And dom, very dom.
13 May 2012, 01:41 am
And now for the Kiwi teams to moer that other vuilgat team from next week.They will probably nee only to moer 14 bulletjies because Spies is a useless PU SSY.
13 May 2012, 03:25 am
How many weeks is Fourie going to get off for punching?
At least he will be able to keep Elstadt company at the “high-performance centre”.
13 May 2012, 05:46 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-4:
K@k stories, w@nker. Sinclair was solid on defence, and crossed the gain line four times. Voets#k!
13 May 2012, 05:47 am
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-9:
Hello Tea party, to$$er.
13 May 2012, 07:04 am
Seems like a lot of big mouths on here today!
13 May 2012, 07:54 am
I see Saracens have been knocked out so their season is over now,
This means that we can possibly get someone like Ernst Joubert or Schalk Britz if we need too,
13 May 2012, 08:27 am
@saru1983(saru1983)-4: Completely baseless idiotic statement. Same as all the people complaining about him being flown in.
Considering the circumstances, he did really well. Given another week to get used to the structures he might turn out to be a very good cover until some of the others recover.
And, while I’m a Stormers fan, that whole thing was started by Elstadt, who is a renowned vuilgat. Stormers were the guilty party.
13 May 2012, 09:31 am
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-5: I never said he is a kak player all i said is he did not know what to do on the field.Be it that the reason could be everything you mentioned.If you were at the game u could see he looked a little bit more than unsure of where he should be
@lepel(lepel)-18: Im trying to think of a reply for u but people who start sentences the way you do dont usually warrant one
13 May 2012, 09:33 am
@KeurboomPark(KeurboomPark)-14: ur are u his girlfriend.
13 May 2012, 13:38 pm
Luke Watson would be a good option. He knows the players and managment and also has plenty of experience and leadership qualities.
13 May 2012, 13:51 pm
@Rhys7(Rhys7)-21:
I agree and he’d provide a nice balance for Elstadt and Kolisi.
13 May 2012, 14:15 pm
just like Jake the fake snake Coetsee will be far too chicken to touch Luke Watson with a barge pole., just imagine Stormers had to go on and win the gdamn competition with Watson at 8 or 6, the Burger clan and their hero worship contingent of arse licker claptrap confederation of supporters wouldn’t live it down in a month of blue moons let alone Sundays.., they far rather import some foreign alien from Calgary or some far off colloquial colony of convenience than stoop to the ultimate obvious solution and pick one of our own sons from next door coz its a far more ‘safe’ non contentious option.
13 May 2012, 14:55 pm
@skopskiet(skopskiet)-23:
I think Watson would be subject to the rule that bars players signed after April 1 from competing in playoffs and semis/final.
13 May 2012, 15:38 pm
Stormers are no angels, but those cheetahs are filthy conniving vuilgatte. Anyway, they’re the sharks problem on saturday…:D
13 May 2012, 16:28 pm
Vuilgatte: Both teams were guilty of niggle with the Strompies (and Fourie & Elstadt in particular) certainly the worst offenders.
Jeb: There is no player on this planet who would shine on debut in a pressure cooker like that. I think he deserves a little more respect than what he’s getting.
13 May 2012, 18:56 pm
I may say something controversial now, but in the bigger scheme of things – if you look at overall value added to a team over the course of a career – I think I actually prefer players that incorporate an element of self preservation into their game,
Yes, a guy like Spies may not engage in suicidal collisions like Schalk Burger does, and may well display a sense of “picking his collisions carefully”, but here he is so far uninjured and fulfilling an invaluable role in our team.
Sure, other players are less cautious, and like to put their bodies on the line, but see the result of that:
Jacques Potgieter – bust knee
Stegman – bust arm
Schalk Burger – bust knee
Alberts – never healing shoulder and now half the player he used to be
Dewald Potgieter – only now recovering from an injury cause by throwing it all into the game when he wasn’t properly matchfit yet.
Vermeulend – loves the collissions and now worth squat to the Stormers as a result of injury
The list goes on and on.
The point is, in terms of value for money, the Stormers are paying a salary to Vermeulen and Burger just like the Bulls are to Spies, but so far we have gotten 10 games worth of value for that money.
Sure, he could get injured in the next game, but I do think that a more cautious approach to protecting your body pays off in the end.
Both for the player and for the team.
13 May 2012, 19:23 pm
Brilliant Tacitus! Brilliant, what a curve ball to support Spies. ‘Picking his moments’ Excellent!
This from a supporter of the quintissential physical team in SA. That’s what flyhalves do! Left Field indeed!
On another point concerning physicallity,, Vuilgat James Haskell had his suspension increased to 4 weeks as the brilliant men on the citing cvommision neglected to look at hais long record outside of the Super 15. Turns out he was banned for a week for headbutting when he was playing for WASPS. Haskell said he did not think this information was ‘important’.
I am astounded. I supose at some point Haskel had to inform the comitee of any previous scrapes with the law. Mkae of this what you will.
Astounding!
13 May 2012, 19:29 pm
@Rhys7(Rhys7)-21:
He will kots on that siff jersey.
Deservedly so.
13 May 2012, 19:30 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-28:
All I’m saying is that it is obvious that Spies doesn’t just “bliksem head first into opposition players” like Schalk or Jacques Potgieter does.
And while it’s nice to have such players in your team, it’s also nice to have guys playing for extended periods without injuries.
13 May 2012, 19:32 pm
The xenophobia of some here is disturbing.
Welcome to SA Sinclair. You played well on Saturday. Next thing stormers supporters will be waving cards at their games saying ‘auslanders raus!’
13 May 2012, 19:38 pm
Point taken Tacitus, but that would mean somebody else in the backrow needs to be doing the hard, injury risk work. The injury toll on players is getting worse every year though.
Not a good trend at all.
13 May 2012, 19:46 pm
@Hens, Xenophobia?? Watch the words you use mate
13 May 2012, 19:53 pm
some of those canucks are tough rednecks make no mistake if he’s good enough play him, but the obvious selection would have seen fourie go to 6, elstadt at 7, kolisi at 8 and liebenberg at 2 – that would still be championship team – but if fourie is banned for punching and sinclair being unknown commodity gaps may be starting to appear, luckily enough they’ve won so many that they probably qualify, but they want a home semi and final to win it.
13 May 2012, 20:03 pm
Papoose.
Xenophobia means the resentment or fear of foreigners. If a line of thought exists that foreigners are not welcome ahead of locals, that is xenophobia.
The Stormers management are not, some supporters are though.
Why must I watch my words? Am I not allowed to express my opinion. You are not my mate as far as I know.
13 May 2012, 20:03 pm
I hope that the Stormers fans who are going on about the Cheetahs on this thread realize that none of them had anything to do with Carr’s injury. It was just a freak accident, with no tackle involved, as he was rushing into a ruck. Watching it I knew immediately he had torn his ACL.
13 May 2012, 20:04 pm
Also, Sinclair looked pretty good to me. Some of you guys are blind.
13 May 2012, 20:06 pm
they normally do the acl if skiing, thats a really bad injury, i think its probably worst than a fracture – things always weak – poor bugger, young talent.
13 May 2012, 20:15 pm
@cab(cab)-38: @cab(cab)-38:
Isn’t the cruciate ligament the really bad one?
13 May 2012, 20:18 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-39:
Unless the “C” in ACL stands for cruciate.
As you can see, I’m no medical expert.
13 May 2012, 20:22 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-40: Yes, that’s what the C stands for.
13 May 2012, 20:24 pm
Luke Watson would be an inspirational choice. If not available, what about Kitshof. He has been a very good loosie.
13 May 2012, 20:26 pm
Minimum 6 months, usually more.
13 May 2012, 20:35 pm
I don’t think Watson is eligible. But even if he could play, I wouldn’t pick him. Partly to spite keo and HSM, but mostly because he’s an egotist. Let him learn that there is no “god” in “team”.
13 May 2012, 20:37 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-39:
I think there are 2 or 3 of them, the anterior (A) and medial ligaments, but the anterior one is the one snow-skiers after get when you drop forward onto it from a height, the knee is pretty much kaput and they got problems rehabilitating it.
13 May 2012, 20:40 pm
@>^..^< katman(katman)-44:
In any case, don’t think the Stormers pay as well as the Kings. There’s no sense in Luke downgrading from a salary perspective…
13 May 2012, 20:43 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-46: Particularly when you consider he hasn’t played for a while (at least not the Kings games I saw). I think daddy’s paying him a tidy sum for little to no results.
13 May 2012, 20:48 pm
after = often, think anterior runs down centre of knee, medial on the sides.
they probably should use Watson if Fourie is out and he’s elligible.
13 May 2012, 20:49 pm
This is sad news, some ACL injuries never come right.
I really hope Nizaam is one of those who do get back to full fitness.
13 May 2012, 20:51 pm
Since they’re poaching Canucks anyway, I reckon they should ship Kleeberger over here. I know he’s more of an openside flank, but he’s damn good.
But if it’s a straight replacement at 8 they’re after, Ernst Joubert or Joe van Niekerk would be my next phone call.
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