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		<title>By: greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)</title>
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		<dc:creator>greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 11:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125387&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slumtown(Slumtown)-183&lt;/a&gt;: 

total agree about Pienaar - has really faded at test level with all his opportunities. Anyone can be a star in Europe IMO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125387" rel="nofollow">Slumtown(Slumtown)-183</a>: </p>
<p>total agree about Pienaar &#8211; has really faded at test level with all his opportunities. Anyone can be a star in Europe IMO</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 09:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125471&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)-194&lt;/a&gt;: most definitely - not disputing that at all - but I think in his case it would definitley be wise to give him a year more to develop. He has been bossing some of the senior props no doubt - very tempting to shove him into the Boks now but I also think we have a welath of depth at 1 so he will have to bide his time for the next year - when the time is right he will be there no doubt about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125471" rel="nofollow">BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)-194</a>: most definitely &#8211; not disputing that at all &#8211; but I think in his case it would definitley be wise to give him a year more to develop. He has been bossing some of the senior props no doubt &#8211; very tempting to shove him into the Boks now but I also think we have a welath of depth at 1 so he will have to bide his time for the next year &#8211; when the time is right he will be there no doubt about it.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.(wallabie.)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125640</link>
		<dc:creator>wallabie.(wallabie.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 08:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125466&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)-193&lt;/a&gt;: 

More like the wooden spooners of RSA always lend a hand to the bulls and stormers. The bulls will always take between 16 - 20 points from the cheetahs and lions i.e. 10 more points as a gift compared to the other conferences.

Cheetahs and lions have been perenially the worst super teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125466" rel="nofollow">BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)-193</a>: </p>
<p>More like the wooden spooners of RSA always lend a hand to the bulls and stormers. The bulls will always take between 16 &#8211; 20 points from the cheetahs and lions i.e. 10 more points as a gift compared to the other conferences.</p>
<p>Cheetahs and lions have been perenially the worst super teams.</p>
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		<title>By: BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125471</link>
		<dc:creator>BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125395&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slumtown(Slumtown)-187&lt;/a&gt;: Like the man said in the thread later, he (Kitshof) is only 20 years old. He has lots of time to mature, let him get coached and at 21 or 22 let him take his spot.

You have to admit, he has been bosing some of the older boys (J Du Plessis) and held his own against some of the best (Franks) at scrum time and his defence is great, not better than beast but a very good second choice come next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125395" rel="nofollow">Slumtown(Slumtown)-187</a>: Like the man said in the thread later, he (Kitshof) is only 20 years old. He has lots of time to mature, let him get coached and at 21 or 22 let him take his spot.</p>
<p>You have to admit, he has been bosing some of the older boys (J Du Plessis) and held his own against some of the best (Franks) at scrum time and his defence is great, not better than beast but a very good second choice come next year.</p>
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		<title>By: BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)</title>
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		<dc:creator>BreakdownBoy(goodstuff)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, the wooden spooners of Australia really helped out SA this weekend, thanks mates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the wooden spooners of Australia really helped out SA this weekend, thanks mates.</p>
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		<title>By: houston, we have a problem...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125464</link>
		<dc:creator>houston, we have a problem...(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice one reds....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice one reds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PrickBoks going South(PrickBoks going South)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125448</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Referee was a complete and utter numpty, whistling by guesswork.  Which rugby-sh*t nation of lobotomized losers produced him ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referee was a complete and utter numpty, whistling by guesswork.  Which rugby-sh*t nation of lobotomized losers produced him ?</p>
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		<title>By: PrickBoks going South(PrickBoks going South)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125446</link>
		<dc:creator>PrickBoks going South(PrickBoks going South)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 05:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we are RED !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are RED !!!</p>
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		<title>By: spartan(spartan)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125400</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 23:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chiefs smashed the Reds scrum 
and where immediately penalised for screwing the scrum 
thus turning  the Chiefs strength  into a weakness 
that one ruling ended the game as a contest
 South African refs 
the more things change the more they stay the same]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chiefs smashed the Reds scrum<br />
and where immediately penalised for <acronym title="Keep it clean!">********</acronym> the scrum<br />
thus turning  the Chiefs strength  into a weakness<br />
that one ruling ended the game as a contest<br />
 South African refs<br />
the more things change the more they stay the same</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125397</link>
		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125261&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RL(RL)-153&lt;/a&gt;: I´m no Sharks fan and Lambie has been one of the outstanding backline players in Sa in the Super 15 this year. not sure where they will fit him in but he deserves to be in any Bok team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125261" rel="nofollow">RL(RL)-153</a>: I´m no Sharks fan and Lambie has been one of the outstanding backline players in Sa in the Super 15 this year. not sure where they will fit him in but he deserves to be in any Bok team.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125395</link>
		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 23:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125255&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-151&lt;/a&gt;: Ja but then who is he going to replace? Beast, Gurthro or Greyling? Secondly he wont be available due to playing in the Junior Bok team]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125255" rel="nofollow">Pee Wee(Pee Wee)-151</a>: Ja but then who is he going to replace? Beast, Gurthro or Greyling? Secondly he wont be available due to playing in the Junior Bok team</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 23:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125220&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus(Deucalion)-130&lt;/a&gt;: key words in that sentence - scores a try.. by your own admission they are scoring them hehe I would still have both in my team. Dancing or not - if they danced like Danny Cipriani I would totally agree with you. The dancing thing is getting a bit ludicrous though - have to agree - I see a bit of football jump onto  a guy gayness has also hit rugby. Its a bit too intimate for my liking - hugging your little kanters up against the hevaing chest of the try scorer and clinging on like a little nagapie. Its just  a bit wrong - as wrong as the fall on top of the try scorer in a loving embrace on the ground thing lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125220" rel="nofollow">Tacitus(Deucalion)-130</a>: key words in that sentence &#8211; scores a try.. by your own admission they are scoring them hehe I would still have both in my team. Dancing or not &#8211; if they danced like Danny Cipriani I would totally agree with you. The dancing thing is getting a bit ludicrous though &#8211; have to agree &#8211; I see a bit of football jump onto  a guy gayness has also hit rugby. Its a bit too intimate for my liking &#8211; hugging your little kanters up against the hevaing chest of the try scorer and clinging on like a little nagapie. Its just  a bit wrong &#8211; as wrong as the fall on top of the try scorer in a loving embrace on the ground thing lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus(Deucalion)-118&lt;/a&gt;: I agree with you - Brussouw has also lost his edge - but so has Alberts. using 2 out of form players as well as Spies (who I also agree is strangely the only sure starter) I would have to say you have to roll the dice and play at least one of the new guys to inject something into that rather limp loose trio. That someone would be either CJ Stander, Kolisi or Marcell Coetzee in my opinion. I would personally choose Stander or Kolisi with Johnson on the bench - he´splaying more dynamically than the others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125206" rel="nofollow">Tacitus(Deucalion)-118</a>: I agree with you &#8211; Brussouw has also lost his edge &#8211; but so has Alberts. using 2 out of form players as well as Spies (who I also agree is strangely the only sure starter) I would have to say you have to roll the dice and play at least one of the new guys to inject something into that rather limp loose trio. That someone would be either CJ Stander, Kolisi or Marcell Coetzee in my opinion. I would personally choose Stander or Kolisi with Johnson on the bench &#8211; he´splaying more dynamically than the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125205&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-117&lt;/a&gt;: He may have no choice if you ask me and I think some of the young guys are bashing down the door at present. Meyer seemed to be fairly open to trying new talent out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125205" rel="nofollow">greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-117</a>: He may have no choice if you ask me and I think some of the young guys are bashing down the door at present. Meyer seemed to be fairly open to trying new talent out.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/13/reds-vs-chiefs-0810-ko/#comment-2125387</link>
		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125203&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;macshark(macshark)-115&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah - must sya Ive never been a huge Pienaar fan but he does seem to have hit some consistent form - question is can he bring that into the test arena? People were saying the same of him last year - he played on test and it all went hideously wrong. In case I would still go with the FDP option - at least I know what i´m getting and he is apparently also hitting some new form - but yeah Pienaar may just be the man - one will only know if he´s thrown in the deep end again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125203" rel="nofollow">macshark(macshark)-115</a>: Yeah &#8211; must sya Ive never been a huge Pienaar fan but he does seem to have hit some consistent form &#8211; question is can he bring that into the test arena? People were saying the same of him last year &#8211; he played on test and it all went hideously wrong. In case I would still go with the FDP option &#8211; at least I know what i´m getting and he is apparently also hitting some new form &#8211; but yeah Pienaar may just be the man &#8211; one will only know if he´s thrown in the deep end again.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus(Deucalion)-114&lt;/a&gt;: Ja I also have blown hot and cold on him - and sometimes I feel he appears more dynamic than he is. Time will tell but he certainly looks like he could make the step up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125202" rel="nofollow">Tacitus(Deucalion)-114</a>: Ja I also have blown hot and cold on him &#8211; and sometimes I feel he appears more dynamic than he is. Time will tell but he certainly looks like he could make the step up.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125201&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-113&lt;/a&gt;: yes thats a conundrum and I agree all deserving - and before injury so were Jacques Potgieter and Duane Vermeulen. With the current spate of injuries they may well end up being the loose trio. Who knows? All I know is we are running out of options fast. Its the curse of the loosies at present - and all out with long term knee injuries. Brussouw must be getting nervous. Even Stegmann who I dont rate is out again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125201" rel="nofollow">greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-113</a>: yes thats a conundrum and I agree all deserving &#8211; and before injury so were Jacques Potgieter and Duane Vermeulen. With the current spate of injuries they may well end up being the loose trio. Who knows? All I know is we are running out of options fast. Its the curse of the loosies at present &#8211; and all out with long term knee injuries. Brussouw must be getting nervous. Even Stegmann who I dont rate is out again.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112&lt;/a&gt;: Agree on WP Nel - only added CJ in for versatility - Coenie could be another option but he got bliksemd yesterday so i´m not so convinced about him scrum wise anymore. Wp Nel - good but also hasnt totally convinced me - i´ll be honest - so far there isnt one tighthead I would say is an absolute MUST.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125199" rel="nofollow">greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-112</a>: Agree on WP Nel &#8211; only added CJ in for versatility &#8211; Coenie could be another option but he got bliksemd yesterday so i´m not so convinced about him scrum wise anymore. Wp Nel &#8211; good but also hasnt totally convinced me &#8211; i´ll be honest &#8211; so far there isnt one tighthead I would say is an absolute MUST.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David(David)-111&lt;/a&gt;: Basically if you have adequate lock cover be it Bakkies or Juandre then your loose option only needs to cover 7 and 8 - Johsnon provides both and he is far more dynamic off the bench. A year ago I would have said Alberts without a doubt but the guy is slower and slower and seems to be not quite present anymore in matches - he isnt the destructive force he used to. May be due to injuries in the past - not sure - he has it in him to get there again but on present form i´m not convinced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125198" rel="nofollow">David(David)-111</a>: Basically if you have adequate lock cover be it Bakkies or Juandre then your loose option only needs to cover 7 and 8 &#8211; Johsnon provides both and he is far more dynamic off the bench. A year ago I would have said Alberts without a doubt but the guy is slower and slower and seems to be not quite present anymore in matches &#8211; he isnt the destructive force he used to. May be due to injuries in the past &#8211; not sure &#8211; he has it in him to get there again but on present form i´m not convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: Slumtown(Slumtown)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slumtown(Slumtown)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2125192&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tacitus(Deucalion)-110&lt;/a&gt;: Personally I agree Houghaard at 11 is always a good option with FDP at 9, Pietersen has shown nothing this season to warrant inclusion in my team. No x factor of any kind. I relaly dont know about him. he seems to step up for the Bok games a bit but in general he is a bit anonymous. Aplon has the x factor and his defence is impeccable so I´ll take him over JP any day. Juan de Jongh at 13 is still one of our best options. Who would you put at 13? Engelbrecht? nowhere. Sadie - lost form. Bosman - useless. Whitehead - not there yet. Ebersohn - definite option but size a factor. Andries Strauss - one dimensional and a liabilty penalty wise. Allywyn Hollenbach - blows hot and cold. I mean relaly - we have a big problem at centre at present. otherwise it will have to be 12 Jdv 13 F Steyn or vice versa. Personally I still think de Jongh is a good option.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2125192" rel="nofollow">Tacitus(Deucalion)-110</a>: Personally I agree Houghaard at 11 is always a good option with FDP at 9, Pietersen has shown nothing this season to warrant inclusion in my team. No x factor of any kind. I relaly dont know about him. he seems to step up for the Bok games a bit but in general he is a bit anonymous. Aplon has the x factor and his defence is impeccable so I´ll take him over JP any day. Juan de Jongh at 13 is still one of our best options. Who would you put at 13? Engelbrecht? nowhere. Sadie &#8211; lost form. Bosman &#8211; useless. Whitehead &#8211; not there yet. Ebersohn &#8211; definite option but size a factor. Andries Strauss &#8211; one dimensional and a liabilty penalty wise. Allywyn Hollenbach &#8211; blows hot and cold. I mean relaly &#8211; we have a big problem at centre at present. otherwise it will have to be 12 Jdv 13 F Steyn or vice versa. Personally I still think de Jongh is a good option.<br />
Thanks for the input!</p>
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