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		<title>By: zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127466</link>
		<dc:creator>zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wallabie.(wallabie.)-48&lt;/a&gt;: 

Agreed

It is obstruction. The ball carrier used to have to be in contact with the opposition, which led to the real rolling maul of left shoulder or right shoulder, changing possession.

I do think the maul needs to go back to its roots and the ball carrier must be in contact, otherwise its obstruction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127431" rel="nofollow">wallabie.(wallabie.)-48</a>: </p>
<p>Agreed</p>
<p>It is obstruction. The ball carrier used to have to be in contact with the opposition, which led to the real rolling maul of left shoulder or right shoulder, changing possession.</p>
<p>I do think the maul needs to go back to its roots and the ball carrier must be in contact, otherwise its obstruction.</p>
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		<title>By: cane(cane)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127459</link>
		<dc:creator>cane(cane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127453&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-54&lt;/a.

I don&#039;t deny it.

Get the Jappies before they get you.

We Anzac&#039;s are too slow in putting the slipper in.

8)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127453" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-54&lt;/a.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t deny it.</p>
<p>Get the Jappies before they get you.</p>
<p>We Anzac&#039;s are too slow in putting the slipper in.</p>
<p>8)</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127450&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane(cane)-53&lt;/a&gt;: You can&#039;t deny there are similarities...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127450" rel="nofollow">cane(cane)-53</a>: You can&#8217;t deny there are similarities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cane(cane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane(cane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127442&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane(cane)-52&lt;/a&gt;: 

We will have to stop agreeing like this Wally.

The Saffa&#039;s will construe &quot;our agreeing&quot; as another,......................................&quot;Let&#039;s get the Jappies&quot; conspiracy.

8)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127442" rel="nofollow">cane(cane)-52</a>: </p>
<p>We will have to stop agreeing like this Wally.</p>
<p>The Saffa&#8217;s will construe &#8220;our agreeing&#8221; as another,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;Let&#8217;s get the Jappies&#8221; conspiracy.</p>
<p>8)</p>
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		<title>By: cane(cane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane(cane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wallabie.(wallabie.)-48&lt;/a&gt;: 

I agree 100% Wally,

Technically every player in a rolling maul is offside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127431" rel="nofollow">wallabie.(wallabie.)-48</a>: </p>
<p>I agree 100% Wally,</p>
<p>Technically every player in a rolling maul is offside.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.(wallabie.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wallabie.(wallabie.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127407&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane(cane)-40&lt;/a&gt;: 

I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127407" rel="nofollow">cane(cane)-40</a>: </p>
<p>I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127435</link>
		<dc:creator>&#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wallabie.(wallabie.)-48&lt;/a&gt;: Correct. If you do that now they take you to the Human Rights Commission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127431" rel="nofollow">wallabie.(wallabie.)-48</a>: Correct. If you do that now they take you to the Human Rights Commission.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.(wallabie.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wallabie.(wallabie.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127419&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-44&lt;/a&gt;: 

It happens in the strongest conference where no team in derby matches are guaranteed 4/5 points.  Whereas the weakest conference the Lions and Cheetahs give up their points easily in the derby games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127419" rel="nofollow">zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-44</a>: </p>
<p>It happens in the strongest conference where no team in derby matches are guaranteed 4/5 points.  Whereas the weakest conference the Lions and Cheetahs give up their points easily in the derby games.</p>
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		<title>By: wallabie.(wallabie.)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wallabie.(wallabie.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-12&lt;/a&gt;: 

Mauling is glorified obstruction...i remember when playing rugby being told...if someone is blocking your path to the ball take him out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127087" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-12</a>: </p>
<p>Mauling is glorified obstruction&#8230;i remember when playing rugby being told&#8230;if someone is blocking your path to the ball take him out.</p>
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		<title>By: zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127424</link>
		<dc:creator>zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127421&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-45&lt;/a&gt;: 

Yes, it is a truly offensive quota system...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127421" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-45</a>: </p>
<p>Yes, it is a truly offensive quota system&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127407&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane(cane)-40&lt;/a&gt;: 

Agreed

Also on the rucks, if its taking too long the other side must commit players to drive the team off the ball.

This just encourages more players to fan out from the ruck, closing down field space.

IRB need to take on their refs - maybe we actually need more refs and bugger this amateur thing about the ref. In professional rugby they should have plenty of refs, like they do in NFL for example.

We care about the RIGHT decision first and foremost, not &quot;playing the ref better than the other side&quot; or &quot;adapting to interpretations&quot;. What BS; and what a let down by so-called professional administrators of a so-called professional sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127407" rel="nofollow">cane(cane)-40</a>: </p>
<p>Agreed</p>
<p>Also on the rucks, if its taking too long the other side must commit players to drive the team off the ball.</p>
<p>This just encourages more players to fan out from the ruck, closing down field space.</p>
<p>IRB need to take on their refs &#8211; maybe we actually need more refs and bugger this amateur thing about the ref. In professional rugby they should have plenty of refs, like they do in NFL for example.</p>
<p>We care about the RIGHT decision first and foremost, not &#8220;playing the ref better than the other side&#8221; or &#8220;adapting to interpretations&#8221;. What BS; and what a let down by so-called professional administrators of a so-called professional sport.</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127421</link>
		<dc:creator>&#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127419&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-44&lt;/a&gt;: That simply can&#039;t be explained. Unless we&#039;re talking about some kind of AAA (Australian Affirmative Action).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127419" rel="nofollow">zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-44</a>: That simply can&#8217;t be explained. Unless we&#8217;re talking about some kind of AAA (Australian Affirmative Action).</p>
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		<title>By: zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127367&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-37&lt;/a&gt;: 

Almost as tough as explaining why the 3rd placed team on the S15 log has less points than those below it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127367" rel="nofollow">&gt;^..^&lt; katman(katman)-37</a>: </p>
<p>Almost as tough as explaining why the 3rd placed team on the S15 log has less points than those below it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127412</link>
		<dc:creator>&#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127407&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cane(cane)-40&lt;/a&gt;: We&#039;re not talking about balls and rucks anymore, are we? I&#039;m afraid you MUST return the Webb Ellis to us in 2015.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127407" rel="nofollow">cane(cane)-40</a>: We&#8217;re not talking about balls and rucks anymore, are we? I&#8217;m afraid you MUST return the Webb Ellis to us in 2015.</p>
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		<title>By: TooMuchRugby(TooMuchRugby)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127411</link>
		<dc:creator>TooMuchRugby(TooMuchRugby)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually think the proposed changes in the refs calling at scrums is good:

1) &quot;Engage&quot; is a two syllable word - using &quot;set&quot; would get rid of a lot of confusion

2) Why is it needed to say the word &quot;pause&quot; - why not just pause]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think the proposed changes in the refs calling at scrums is good:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Engage&#8221; is a two syllable word &#8211; using &#8220;set&#8221; would get rid of a lot of confusion</p>
<p>2) Why is it needed to say the word &#8220;pause&#8221; &#8211; why not just pause</p>
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		<title>By: cane(cane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane(cane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127233&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-31&lt;/a&gt;: 

But you did watch it to the finish,
didn&#039;t you.

8)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127233" rel="nofollow">houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-31</a>: </p>
<p>But you did watch it to the finish,<br />
didn&#8217;t you.</p>
<p>8)</p>
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		<title>By: cane(cane)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cane(cane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had 150 yrs of rugby.
You&#039;d think this kind of craap would be unnecessary by now. Would you not.

Why can&#039;t they just leave things alone for a while.

Putting a time restriction on the half back ( or whoever) to release the ball at rucks is just plain petty bullshit.

If Your Team has control of the ruck,
you should have the privilege of releasing the ball when YOU see fit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had 150 yrs of rugby.<br />
You&#8217;d think this kind of craap would be unnecessary by now. Would you not.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t they just leave things alone for a while.</p>
<p>Putting a time restriction on the half back ( or whoever) to release the ball at rucks is just plain petty bullshit.</p>
<p>If Your Team has control of the ruck,<br />
you should have the privilege of releasing the ball when YOU see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: TooMuchRugby(TooMuchRugby)</title>
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		<dc:creator>TooMuchRugby(TooMuchRugby)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127071&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mr Incredible(siphamade)-7&lt;/a&gt;: Shame....The 5 second rule will give Fourie du Preez no time to wave his arms about and chat to the referee (something he must have learnt from Joost)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127071" rel="nofollow">Mr Incredible(siphamade)-7</a>: Shame&#8230;.The 5 second rule will give Fourie du Preez no time to wave his arms about and chat to the referee (something he must have learnt from Joost)</p>
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		<title>By: Hurricane(Hurricane)</title>
		<link>http://keo.co.za/2012/05/16/irb-tweaks-laws/#comment-2127392</link>
		<dc:creator>Hurricane(Hurricane)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127072&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-8&lt;/a&gt;: 
Dont know, but whatever the laws were in RWC 2011, the Boks were boarding the plane and you and HG were crying like little pathetic babies, in fact its still going on as you have shown on this thread.
So i thank you for being pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127072" rel="nofollow">houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-8</a>:<br />
Dont know, but whatever the laws were in RWC 2011, the Boks were boarding the plane and you and HG were crying like little pathetic babies, in fact its still going on as you have shown on this thread.<br />
So i thank you for being pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: &#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#62;^..^&#60; katman(katman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2127363&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-36&lt;/a&gt;: As you said earlier, scrum feeds are a complete joke. Try explaining to your non-rugby friend what the scrummie is meant to do with the ball come scrum time, according to the rules. He’ll think you’ve been puffing the bong all morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-2127363" rel="nofollow">zoo cleaner(zoo cleaner)-36</a>: As you said earlier, scrum feeds are a complete joke. Try explaining to your non-rugby friend what the scrummie is meant to do with the ball come scrum time, according to the rules. He’ll think you’ve been puffing the bong all morning.</p>
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