Koen, De Villiers join Bok management
24 May 2012
Louis Koen and Pieter de Villiers were officially added to the Springbok management on Thursday.
Their appointments were approved by Saru’s Exco (Executive Council), which means the duo will join the Boks at their training camp in Durban on Sunday. Former Bok flyhalf Koen will take over as the team’s kicking consultant, while former France prop De Villiers will be the scrum specialist.
Head coach Heyneke Meyer lauded the latest additions to his management.
‘They bring a wealth of knowledge in their specialist areas of kicking and scrumming, but also know and understand the rigours of Test rugby, having played at the highest level,’ said Meyer. ‘Collectively they have been involved in a number of World Cups and this kind of experience is something that will always be invaluable at Test level.’
69 Comments
24 May 2012, 17:18 pm
none are ex bulls dragons
nice
24 May 2012, 17:18 pm
For a moment there I thought they were bringing in Pieter De Villiers….dragon
24 May 2012, 17:19 pm
I’m relieved to see after reading the first few lines that it is the Pieter De Villiers who played front row for France and not the Pieter De Villiers who played the fool for South Africa.
24 May 2012, 17:22 pm
hehe,I also thought it was Snorman they referred to
24 May 2012, 17:24 pm
…and the way its sounding this might be my Bok 22 to run out against England…..
15. Patrick Lambie.
14. Francois Hougaard.
13. Jean De Villiers (c).
12. Francois Steyn.
11. Bryan Habana.
10. Morne Steyn.
9. Fourie Du Preez (vc).
8. Pierre Spies.
7. Willem Alberts.
6. Marcell Coetzee.
5. Andries Bekker.
4. Eben Etsebeth.
3. C.J. Van Der Linde.
2. Bismark Du Plessis.
1. Tendai Mtawarira.
16. Coenie Oosthuizen.
17. Adriaan Strauss.
18. Juandre Kruger.
19. Rynhardt Elstadt.
20. Heinrich Brussow.
21. Jaco Taute.
22. Gio Aplon.
24 May 2012, 17:26 pm
Good on Meyer surrounding himself with the best in the business. Matfield also to help out iwth the lineouts.
24 May 2012, 17:27 pm
@Puma(Puma)-6: meant – with
24 May 2012, 17:28 pm
hello puma
get sheryl calder back for the hand eye co ord exercises
or jonty rhodes
24 May 2012, 17:43 pm
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-1: Louis Skoen had at least one Super 12 season with the Bulls. Probably around 2001 or 2002.
24 May 2012, 17:45 pm
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-5: I know Jannie is a bit rubbish, but really, CJ, on current (or ;last two years) form?
24 May 2012, 18:39 pm
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-5: Really like the look of that team especially if Du Preez is in some kind of form.
24 May 2012, 19:08 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-3:
“Played the fool”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
24 May 2012, 19:12 pm
@SpiesIsWorthless(SpiesIsWorthless)-11:
Stander rather than Marcel as 6 backup to Brussow, as Marcel is a 7. However I can’t se Marcel making the starting 22 ahead of Deysel or Kanko.
24 May 2012, 19:58 pm
@David(David)-13: Would you have those players ahead of him? Deysel and Kanko can’t even make the Sharks squad
24 May 2012, 20:19 pm
Louis Koen was the absolute worst Bok fly half of all time.. and he trots out as Meyer’s kicking guru
seriously Louis Koen?
I sometimes wonder if this Heyneke Meyer is all as cracked up as some people make him out to be.
24 May 2012, 20:32 pm
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-15: Koen might have been rubbish, but he was a good kicker and thats what he is there for.
24 May 2012, 20:34 pm
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-5: I think it would be better to have your v/c in the pack if the captain is in the backline
24 May 2012, 21:00 pm
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-15: Have you thought about what his credentials may actually be??
How about this??
He is the kicking coach for WP
Who is the most accurate SA kicker (last season and this)?>
That’s right.
24 May 2012, 21:30 pm
Poor fuckadilly.
If he had half a brain he would be dangerous.
24 May 2012, 21:43 pm
I think ….
Toomuchrugby is Justrugby!!!!
Yes?
24 May 2012, 22:18 pm
on the haircare clip that lambie does,where does he ever admit to dandruff or that the product cured him?
bananas anyone
yip to all the stormers supporters projecting
tick,tick,tick
25 May 2012, 06:42 am
Almost pissed my pants when I read De Villiers, sjo that was close.
25 May 2012, 07:08 am
anything for a laugh keo crew..?…
25 May 2012, 07:10 am
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-2: They are bringing in Pieter De Villiers. You got it wrong, our former bok coaches name is Peter De Villiers.
25 May 2012, 07:11 am
Great work Keo getting everyone anxious thinking its Peter De Villiers.
25 May 2012, 07:12 am
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-3: His name is Peter De Villiers.
25 May 2012, 07:17 am
Great appointments. Louis Koen is a kicking guru and Pieter De Villiers anchored many solid scrums for France. Will be interesting to see what they can do with this current crop of players.
25 May 2012, 07:24 am
THis headline almost gave me a heart attack!!!
25 May 2012, 07:27 am
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-5: Too white. Chilli will be #2 hooker..
25 May 2012, 07:30 am
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-15:
SA has never lost a game to Argentina… And thanks to Koen we still have that record. He kicked a penalty from the touchline on the 80th minute… SA should always thank him for that and he is surely a more educated and experienced kicking coach than Percy!
25 May 2012, 07:34 am
@David(David)-13: in Stander, Kolisi and Coetzee we have 3 very exciting young flanks, all of whom will likely end up playing openside more often than not. I rate them all, but Coetzee has been arguably the best loosie in SA this year. His tackle count is outrageous and he carries the ball brilliantly. I would definitely have him in the squad, although realistically Brussouw will start in the 6 jersey which is hardly a bad thing! Personally I’d love to see Alberts back to his best and at 8, with Coetzee and Brussouw on the flanks. However it’s probably safe to write Spies’ name down right now. Let’s just hope Meyer can get the best out of him.
25 May 2012, 07:42 am
@sonofgun(sonofgun)-31: Yes all three are very good. I think Stander and Kolisi are more suited to 6 and 8. Coetzee is the tallest out of the 3 of them so he can fill in at 7 and provide a lineout option.
Future Bok trio
6. Stander
7. Coetzee
8. Kolisi
25 May 2012, 07:43 am
Really happy with Pieter de Villiers in the mix. Listening to his comments on Supersport whenever he was roped in, really shows the man knows his rugby, and with him having plied his trade in the front-row cauldron that is European rugby, he can definitely add a lot of value to the Bok scrum.
25 May 2012, 07:47 am
@sonofgun(sonofgun)-31: I still think Kolisi was unlucky not to make the 42 man squad. He has rarely had a bad game this season. The only game i can remember him being quiet was against the Crusaders.
25 May 2012, 07:53 am
@ShaunSwindon(Karma-zaf)-5: did rynhardt elstadt make the 42 man squad?
25 May 2012, 07:56 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-21: Would a person who isn’t HIV postive use anti-retrovirals? Much less advertise them? It’s terribly honourable of you girls to fight for Lambie in this manner. But if he wants to advertise a product that will produce a few giggles, you lot, just like him, should take what comes with it. Pump-di di pump pump – pump pump. (Took old Bissie 3 weeks to learn those lines…)
25 May 2012, 08:08 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-34: problem is that even Coetzee can’t be more than 1.88m, and he’s not much of a lineout forward for the sharks. I reckon those 3 would be dynamic, but you’d definitely be short on bulk and height. I don’t think any of them is over 105kg. You’re right that Kolisi could hardly have done more and is unlucky. Right now I doubt he’d make the Test 22, and all of the loosies selected are good players, so I’m not as outraged as some. But despite being a sharks fan, I reckon kolisi’s future holds more bok caps than deysel’s or daniel’s, and it’s been a long time since SA produced a true international-quality black loose forward, so I’d have included him for the sake of the experience.
25 May 2012, 08:18 am
@sonofgun(sonofgun)-37: Yes but his time will come. Yes agreed it is tough breaking into loose forward department at test level for the Boks.
25 May 2012, 08:20 am
phew, i was worried pieter had been employed as media liaison officer….
but it is the other one as scrum coach!
25 May 2012, 08:23 am
@sonofgun(sonofgun)-37: Marcel Coetzee 1.91 m and 106 Kg.
25 May 2012, 08:24 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-40: CJ Stander 1.88 m and 108 kg
25 May 2012, 08:25 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-41: Siya Kolisi 1.87 m and 101 kg
25 May 2012, 08:28 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-35:
no.
he should have.
25 May 2012, 08:30 am
Such a bad article thought it was Pdivvy as the scrumming coach
25 May 2012, 08:31 am
faaaaaaaaarrrrrrrkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!
i am sooooo faaaaarrrrking nervous right now!
go buuuuullllllllssss!
25 May 2012, 08:45 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-45:
Deep breaths matey….now repeat “accept the inevitable”….Go Chiefys
25 May 2012, 08:49 am
go bulls!!!!
25 May 2012, 08:52 am
morne & timotei to shut down sbw!
you heard it here first! this is going to be one juicy clash!
bulls pack to take the chiefs on with relentless pick & drives, barging through them at will. spies to put messam on his arse in contact!
25 May 2012, 08:53 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-46:
i really am though.
have heart palpitations even
@Transformation(Transformation)-47:
thats the spirit
25 May 2012, 08:55 am
@Transformation(Transformation)-48:
dont toy with me transie
25 May 2012, 08:56 am
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-15: what has his flyhalf abilites or lack there of have to do with his kicking coaching skills? you ever heard of David Leadbetter, missed 47 cuts in a row on the pga tour…
25 May 2012, 08:59 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-26: is French is slightly more eloquent than PDivvy’s!
25 May 2012, 09:01 am
I completely reverse my feelings for Coach P Divy!
From his books launch:
“You ask the question, this is a multibillion-rand indus-try, are the right people managing it?”
De Villiers said the Kings, the controversial sixth team trying to force its way into the Super Rugby competition, was indicative of the broader malaise. Led by Watson, they are the descendants of the Spears that De Villiers had started with four players and no budget in 2004.
“Then they said we were costing them too much money, so they shut us down. Now we’ve got a franchise in a format that there is no room for, into which they are pumping millions.”
The Eastern Cape needs rugby to be developed, as 60 percent of all SA’s black players come from the region, but the Kings isn’t the answer, De Villiers said.
“If you want to introduce rugby, make every Super 15 team play a game there. If you want to develop talent, let it run its natural course, not by buying players from elsewhere. If they gave black players the chance, they would be the best they could be…
“We don’t have enough (quality) players to justify it. Instead of creating a vehicle to develop and keep the best black rugby players in the country, we’re making a team for the seventh, eighth and ninth best white players who don’t have anything left to give.”
The team’s inability to be competitive, he said, would make them a laughing stock.
Giving new Bok coach Meyer his full backing, he said: “The one thing we must do is support Heyneke… Our duty, every one of us, is just to support him.” – The Star
25 May 2012, 09:02 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-49: you sound like grantie
25 May 2012, 09:02 am
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-45: the bulls are underdogs for this game, in NZ, last game on tour etc. If they play above themsleves they might pull off a win and it would be a famous one, so expect little but anticipate a lot
25 May 2012, 09:04 am
This is good news! Cant wait for the tests to start
25 May 2012, 09:11 am
@The Analyst(The Analyst)-53: Well said Divvy. Ja i saw his book at the local book store. Should be an interesting read. When did the book launch? This week?
25 May 2012, 09:23 am
@The Analyst(The Analyst)-53: Did you hear Oregon’s excuses on the Cape Talk this morning
Question 1 : how are the Lions going to survive if they are relegated?
Oregon : survive? Ah ah well you know ah ah that this isn’t the first time a south African team has been relegated, Ah ah ah there will be processes put in place, we are still looking at other possible solutions..
Question 2 : Pieter de Villiers has said in his book that you were in negotiation with HM 6 months before the world Cup? Oregon : Well a news paper recently asked me the same question and I told them that I didn’t have a copy of the book yet. It’s difficult to comment on something you haven’t seen with your own eyes. It’s not easy at all..
25 May 2012, 09:24 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-57:
Yes this week. Seems like we will hear the real story. But also seems like Divvy was an honourable guy with integrity. I think he was out of his depth as coach, but he looked after his players and had real integrity. A real rugby man. Saw through all the political bullshit, as well as Luke ‘the puke’ Watson, even though it seems like Watson’s father was the real reason behind destroying Luke.
25 May 2012, 09:26 am
@BuckT(BuckTrendy)-58:
The biggest problem with SA Rugby is there governance model. It is corrupt to the core. Fix that and you will see SA Rugby sore to unprecedented heights – for the good of ALL South Africans.
Unfortunately it is the problem with the WHOLE of SA, starting from the top of the ANC dictatorship.
25 May 2012, 09:28 am
And he is right about the Kings. The fat cats will get the gravy, but the local rugby men in Eastern Cape will STILL have nothing.
25 May 2012, 09:30 am
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-54:
fark man!
i’m shiitting bricks here
@BuckT(BuckTrendy)-55:
serious finger crossing atm.
25 May 2012, 10:32 am
Damn sjoe!!!!!!!Thought SNOR was back haaaaa haaaa
25 May 2012, 11:55 am
Pieter de Villiers
one of the greatest lost talents in SA rugby.
powerful scrummager at his peak with no equal. One of the most destructive THs of the last 20 years.
25 May 2012, 12:24 pm
Pieter de Villiers – ‘Yes’ – BIG TIME!!!!! (And to echo greatest13Gerber – yet another COLOSSAL mismanaged waste of talent, to go with Visage).
Louis Koen – you’ve got to be kldding me – he single-handledly lost us a House of Pain test match through his lack of big match temperament – missing several goalable penalties when it counted; and he choked in the World Cup against England – USELESS; he’s a loser, shouldn’t be anywhere near that side.
25 May 2012, 12:29 pm
@J.B. Cowper(J.B. Cowper)-65: Those penalties you mentioned were all from 50 meters plus, out of his range.
He did lose us the WC game against England in Perth through shoddy decision making, though.
25 May 2012, 12:45 pm
@The Analyst(The Analyst)-53: div is a true rugga man.
hats off to him, no matter how much abuse he took, he always held his head high and was ready with a skreeusnaaks riposte.
and we nilled the ab’s under his tenure.
glad he is still involved at youth level.
25 May 2012, 14:06 pm
@The Analyst(The Analyst)-53:
Respect
he speaks the truth
25 May 2012, 14:33 pm
@The Analyst(The Analyst)-53: Well said from PdV there.
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