Meyer granted extra opportunity
24 May 2012
Heyneke Meyer will hold a fourth and final planning camp in Durban from Sunday with 42 players invited to attend.
This will be the final opportunity for Meyer to work with the players before the final Springbok squad to face England meets on 3 June.
The camp will take place on 27 and 28 May. The players will depart Durban around midday on Monday and will be back with their Super Rugby franchises for training in the afternoon.
‘We discussed this with the franchise CEOs recently and they’ve been very accommodating, as they were earlier in the season,’ said Meyer.
‘We’ve planned it in Durban, because the Stormers take on the Sharks at Kings Park the day before and will be there already. Players from the Bulls, Lions and Cheetahs will fly in on Sunday morning.
‘This is by no means a final Springbok squad and the door will be open for all our eligible players until the announcement of the squad that will take on England.
‘This camp will put in place a number of the finer details in terms of what we want to achieve against England. We will hit the ground running on 3 June, when we converge in Durban for the first Test with a final squad.’
Meyer said that they will keep in touch with the Super Rugby franchises regarding injured players, but that they weren’t considered for this camp.
Players invited to the final Springbok Planning Camp in Durban on 27 and 28 May:
Forwards (22): Coenie Oosthuizen, Tendai Mtawarira, Dean Greyling, Jannie du Plessis, Pat Cilliers, Werner Kruger, Bismarck du Plessis, Adriaan Strauss, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Flip van der Merwe, Eben Etzebeth, Andries Bekker, Juandré Kruger, Marcell Coetzee, CJ Stander, Heinrich Brüssow, Keegan Daniel, Willem Alberts, Jean Deysel, Pierre Spies, Ryan Kankowski, Josh Strauss.
Backs (20): Francois Hougaard, Jano Vermaak, Piet van Zyl, Morné Steyn, Pat Lambie, Elton Jantjies, Peter Grant, Wynand Olivier, Jean de Villiers, Juan de Jongh, JJ Engelbrecht, Bryan Habana, Bjorn Basson, JP Pietersen, Gio Aplon, Lwazi Mvovo, Akona Ndungane, Zane Kirchner, Jaco Taute, Joe Pietersen.
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24 May 2012, 12:42 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-229: i told you last week, sadie is nowhere and you said “he is meyer’s boy wonder”
24 May 2012, 12:43 pm
@Bok fan(Bok fan)-248:
Looking at the evdivence – You are absolutely right. But Meyer will still pick Spies/ Much like Williams and Weepu being selected by Hansen.
24 May 2012, 12:44 pm
@Superbru(Superbru)-247:
Yes, agreed they are not going to set the world on fire, but with the experienced heads they’ll play decent test rugby and grind out a win.
Trinations time we can look at bringing in some more flair – Lambie to 10, Mvovo, etc. For now, let’s beat the Poms.
24 May 2012, 12:45 pm
@Bok fan(Bok fan)-248:
I’m hoping he’s picked because he’s a weak link and Read has his number.
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-249:
The new young guy from OFS if he reaches full potential could he surpass Botha?
24 May 2012, 12:46 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-251:
Yes. But I still believe he will come into reckoning before end of year.
he is an exceptional talent with x factor IMO.
13.Johan Sadie
12.Francios Steyn
24 May 2012, 12:46 pm
@kimberleystormer(kimberleystormer)-232: hi kimberley stormer.
jaqu fourie took the R22 millions and forsook Bok rugby for 2 years.
24 May 2012, 12:46 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-252:
Williams and Weepu won’t be there for much longer.
24 May 2012, 12:48 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-255: right now he has k*-factor
*k for kak
24 May 2012, 12:48 pm
@greentea(greentea)-254: The new young guy from OFS if he reaches full potential could he surpass Botha?
Who dat?
24 May 2012, 12:49 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-252:
The difference is Piri and Ali have performed consistently at test level whilst Spies has been mediocre
24 May 2012, 12:50 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-259:
Goosen is that his name?
24 May 2012, 12:50 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-230: Ja , although still rumours flying about Fourie getting it, will have to see. Think Jean makes the most sense for now as Im sure hes not a candidate for permanent captaincy
24 May 2012, 12:50 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-258: lol top notch
24 May 2012, 12:51 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-260:
Time for new blood though both won’t be there in 15′.
24 May 2012, 12:51 pm
@greentea(greentea)-261: Oh yes the Golden Goose. Legend in the making.
24 May 2012, 12:52 pm
@greentea(greentea)-254:
Goosen comes with great promise indeed – but many before him have come with such promise and failed live up to their promise. I still say Lambie is the best 10 we have going forward. Buty lets wait and see.
There will never be a Naas Botha – He was a God in the number 10 jersey. Gifted with precision accuracy never seen before in SA. To have seen him dominate single handed games was a treasure. Unbeknown to many, Naas also very fast and deceptive speed – he could run. Defensively suspect in his late 20s to 30s, he compensated with his depth kicking and dangerous drop goal ability.
24 May 2012, 12:52 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-265:
You need a legend at 10 its been a while.
24 May 2012, 12:54 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-252: At least they have past form to fall back on. WTF does Spies have? No mate – the only rugby Spies should be allowed to play by LAW, is 7′s. Watching him prance around the park a good 30 metres away from ALL and ANY physical action is going to be the death of me this year (as a Bok fan).Watching him fall over like a drunk over blades of grass is going to be unbearable, almost as unbearable as his token 15 missed tackles per international. I say again, what is the obsession with this absolute fake athlete? And I repeat this again 2: He is like bubblegum stuck in a persons hair – near impossible to get rid of without cutting.
24 May 2012, 12:55 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-260:
yes. true
@Bok fan(Bok fan)-262:
yes. Lets not forget that the
13.Jean
12.Steyn
combination have played before. against Barbarians from memory
24 May 2012, 12:56 pm
@capebull(capebull)-212: I think Elstadt is certainly not the quickest loosie around, but in the right mix he could be someone we need, especially as a bench player. He is a player I will include for games in the NH and since the next World Cup is in England he may be a good player to have in the group of 30. We have so many top loosies that we can afford to pick the best balanced trio that may not be the most popular trio. For example: Kolisi, Elstadt and CJ Stander may be a very good trio in 4 years time for a good old arm wrestle, but then we need Elstadt to improve his lineout work.
24 May 2012, 12:56 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-255: He can regain form in the Currie Cup and maybe make selection for the EOYT squad.
24 May 2012, 12:57 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-268:
lol bit harsh my friend?
yes yes – But Spies is x factor and very much in Meyers plans. sad but true. Vermeulen is the best no8 in SA and travesty he has not being capped.
Alberts is second best number 8 IMO.
24 May 2012, 12:57 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-252: Sadly you prob right.
Although Im a big fan of Meyer so will just have to trust him. Heard him speak a few times and can quickly see why his players love him so much. I predict him to be the next Kitch
24 May 2012, 12:58 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-266:
A running 10 would completely change the dynamics for AB Bokke tests, in recent years once your forwards were nulified it was usually game over, a world class ATTACKING Bokke 10 would not be a good thing!
24 May 2012, 12:58 pm
@greentea(greentea)-267: Too true. Who is going to fill Dan the Man’s boots because I dont see him making it to 2015 as the starting flyhalf.
24 May 2012, 12:58 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-250: And worst of all for you, he is probably going to be the Bok captain
24 May 2012, 12:59 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-271:
thats when I think Meyer will blood talent like Sadie. For is temporary, class is permanent
24 May 2012, 13:01 pm
@greentea(greentea)-264:
yep no qualms about that
24 May 2012, 13:03 pm
@greentea(greentea)-274:
yes. some Bok traditions will never change. Much like selection of big looseforwards. hence why you never see a
8.Daniel
7.Coetzee/Koylisi
6.Brussow
loose trio in Bok colors. Funny how French have done well with their light weight but athletic looseforward trio over past 20years!
24 May 2012, 13:05 pm
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-260: i hear hansen has given piri a workout schedule, if he hasn’t lost a certain amount kilos by the time the oirish arrive then it’s curtains for peri-peri…
can’t be a good time this for piri.
24 May 2012, 13:06 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-275:
In descending order of preference:
- Cruden, (Chiefs)
- Barrett, (Canes).
- Taylor. (Crusaders)
By 2015 these guys will be all Top Shelf.
24 May 2012, 13:06 pm
@Sasuke(Sasuke)-275:
Don’t think anybody can replace Carter he has won us so many test matches single-handedly that it would unfair to expect somebody else to do that but we have some above aveage talent coming through like Cruden who would get the job done. Barring injury I reckon DC plays in England in 15′ would be around 33.
24 May 2012, 13:08 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-280:
True, Transie.
Peri now has a target to aim for. All good.
24 May 2012, 13:08 pm
@kimberleystormer(kimberleystormer)-232:
greetings.
agreed on everyone on your list except jj, greyling, coetzee and basson.
add on daniel, strauss, jdp, kankowski, flip and maybe cilliers to your list though.
are you a stomers supporter in kimberley because you are used to ‘deep holes’ or what..?… *nudge, wink*
24 May 2012, 13:08 pm
@Airwell(Airwell)-276: Don’t agree with you there. Whilst it would be tragic for me personally, it won’t be anything AS tragic for me on a personal level as what it would be for the Boks. Then again, Meyer has selected the entire Bulls teams, possibly for that very reason – they are the only players who respect Spies. Three words for this scenario: Pear shaped – FAST.
24 May 2012, 13:09 pm
@cane(cane)-281:
Cruden
Barrett
Slade
This Taylor doesnt do much but kick – he reminds me of Ben Blair.
24 May 2012, 13:10 pm
@cane(cane)-283:
How hard can it be to shed a few kilos so he can fit into an AB jersey?
24 May 2012, 13:11 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-272: X-factor? I would prefer to see a little more Y and Z factor from the pink princess.
24 May 2012, 13:11 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-279:
Yip they did a job on the AB pack in the final.
24 May 2012, 13:12 pm
Thanks for the welcome guys,
@ greatest13, quite a few of us lost souls here, Desyel has’nt played enough for me and if Coezee stays who do you leave out,
@ Superbru , then Mvovo’s gonna miss out,
@ Transformation, was referring to Fourie Du Preez,
24 May 2012, 13:12 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-280:
Looks like Piri will be eating to his hearts delight in the not too distant future….needs a haircut too, the sweaty look making him appear more unfit
24 May 2012, 13:12 pm
Cane,
I feel for Tom Donnelly – moved to Crusaders country to regain black jersey, started S15 off well and then eclipesd by the bench warmer. Shades of that Ross Crusader who was overtaken by a young Sam Whitelock.
far too many one off Abs in recent years.
24 May 2012, 13:13 pm
@greentea(greentea)-287:
I think it’s his shorts that are giving him problems NZC,
He has an arse like a Taranaki bull.
24 May 2012, 13:14 pm
@Transformation(Transformation)-246:
oh transie, what will you say if the boks go try scoring befok in the england series..?…
24 May 2012, 13:16 pm
@cane(cane)-293: He’s about six Big Macs ahead and around a dozen wee poos behind.
24 May 2012, 13:16 pm
@cane(cane)-293:
Ha good for cover tackling though, I say blood the new young 9′s if we drop a test or two because of it no drama. Piri has been a superb servant to NZ rugby he should head off shore and top up his b/acc.
24 May 2012, 13:17 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-285: How do you know that all the non Bulls players do not respect him? Maybe you have a link to proove this?
24 May 2012, 13:18 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-292:
Ross was soft….Thorn wouldn’t lock with him because he was a pusssy.
24 May 2012, 13:18 pm
@houston, we have a problem…(i_love_u_bakkiesbotha)-294:
If you don’t there’s something wrong, lets judge Meyer when the big guns arrive in town.
24 May 2012, 13:19 pm
@greentea(greentea)-289:
is what these one eye Ab supporters forget – lightweight french pack on their day can destroy any side. AB boogie team – always have being.
@kimberleystormer(kimberleystormer)-290:
haha kimberley has long reputation as the most difficult place in SA for opposition. The local Medics were always busy with opposition sides
players use hate playing there!
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