Du Preez set to skipper Boks
26 May 2012
Keo.co.za understands Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer has offered Fourie du Preez the captaincy.
This website’s information indicates that Meyer met with Du Preez this week to offer him the position on a short-term basis that will initially stretch across the England series in June, after which the situation will be reviewed.
Du Preez, who has just completed his first season in Japan with Suntory Sungoliath, is thought to be keen on the job, although he has not formally accepted yet.
Du Preez is known to be a reluctant captain, preferring to operate in the shadows. In the absence of Victor Matfield he accepted the job with the Bulls in 2008 but later spoke about his lack of enjoyment in what turned out to be a disastrous campaign.
Speaking to SA Rugby magazine in 2011 Du Preez said the World Cup would probably be his last involvement with the Springboks, but added that he would reconsider if Meyer was appointed. It appears he will now lend his long time mentor a helping hand, with Meyer not convinced by the quality of leaders on offer in South Africa.
Meyer had planned to install Victor Matfield as his captain, but those plans were shelved when it emerged that an IRB ruling on retired players precludes Matfield from selection for six months after he announced his return.
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26 May 2012, 16:51 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-141: no rob, dont try to put them man down because you dont like what you hear, thats not fair or right.
he has a job, at saru, developing young rugga talent.
my point is that he is not alone in making these claims, there is a history of this kind of thing.
no wonder luke never got a look in again?
26 May 2012, 16:53 pm
Shame poor rangerman got hurt and angry. To clarify – my point is not that only exc players and coaches may have an opinion – God forbid – my point is that unless you have some real knowledge you should tone down your rantings
26 May 2012, 16:55 pm
@roobarb2(roobarb2)-150: Because he’s the best scrumhalf we’ve got. Let’s not do a Ruan Pienaar, Frans Steyn, Brent Russel, etc, etc, on him.
26 May 2012, 16:55 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-149: cheers man, enjoy too and may there be no injuries.
ok, i am out tjorts.
26 May 2012, 16:57 pm
Go Cheetahs – and may the best of the Stormers and Sharks win – it will be a cracker. More later chaps. Chin up rangerman!!!!
26 May 2012, 16:57 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-145:
All i know is I am not buying the book of that “coach’. I admit however that i will sneakily read a few pages at “Exclusive Books” though- that is if they decide to stock that slapstick. There might be some laughs.
26 May 2012, 16:59 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-156:
That’s all I usually do with these types of books as well.
Didn’t by White’s either.
Did buy Matfield’s though. But thats for sentimental reasons.
26 May 2012, 17:06 pm
Oookkkkaayyy
So you need some REAL KNOWLEDGE to post here?
26 May 2012, 17:06 pm
We’re fkd – England will take the series against all odds cos of saffa stupidity
26 May 2012, 17:07 pm
No wonder Hougaard suddenly playing like a complete dumbed down twat.. he’s heard his great mentor FdP is coming home to take up his halo and his automatic spot..
I was told that FdP had officially ‘retired’ from international rugby till Heyneke got the job.. whats the IRB ruling surrounding that?
Now if this the way Heyneke is going about rebuilding the Bok legendary dynasty of old then I hope England fck’s him up..
I can see Heyneke already in a flat spin about wtf to do next.. seems he got no balls and only got a blue print he prepared 5 years ago so he’s falling all the way back on that.
26 May 2012, 17:08 pm
Ou grysbaard don’t go spewing bile here on bloggers who’ve been here longer than you’ve had your beard, OK?
26 May 2012, 17:08 pm
@cab(cab)-159:
Tell these dumbed down fckers.. they are all befuddled fck’d up in the head and blind..
26 May 2012, 17:09 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-157:
The only one of those books that I have is the one about Kitch Christie- written by Edward griffiths. My wife once joined a book club and took it as one of the “three books for R5″ introductory offer. She said there was absolutely nothing else to choose and gave it to me- it was not a bad buy for R 1.67 I guess.
26 May 2012, 17:10 pm
SA rugby is one fat hornets nest of delusional idiocy and stupidity .. and Heyneke Meyer is the next messiah in waiting to see his overrated gat…
26 May 2012, 17:11 pm
No I can’t watch this laager **** – I thought heyneke was one of the new breed but this is conservatism of the highest order.
26 May 2012, 17:14 pm
Cheeky Watson was obviously the stooge who tried blackmailing PdV who else would stoop so low .. but PdV shouldn’t have been caught with his pants down.. even if he was in bed with some gabbas from the ANC on a team building sortie in the EC..
and immediately thereafter PdV handed all the reigns to John Smit and thereafter slayed waste all and any of his credibility.
26 May 2012, 17:17 pm
@cab(cab)-165:
No. Mitchell was the ”new breed Messiah”. You know, expansive running rugby, reading the ”shoulders” of the opposing player and all that ”next generation” mumbo jumbo.
Half the country wanted him as the next Bok coach.
The half that thinks every game can be like Sevens rugby, that is. So much for that idea.
26 May 2012, 17:17 pm
They got f’all idea about rugby.. these so called dyed in the rugby wool geniuses of SA rugby.. they so f’ng far off the goddamn boil of any situation when push comes to shove they go running cap in hand to the nearest Aussie to come lead them out the laager and into the promised land..
what a f’ng dire delirious deluded dumbed down day dream
26 May 2012, 17:18 pm
Geezus there gonna be big tears – and I be crying the biggest ones – ffs do not lose against England – this is the time to blood tge new – the others were on the cusp 2 years ago – it’s now time to pick anew – u got a virtually unbeaten stormers team and ge wanna pick fdp and matfield – and they call these okes kenners – christus alimity – I go darn my hankies now..
26 May 2012, 17:19 pm
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-168:
Skop? Is that you?
26 May 2012, 17:22 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-170:
You are slow today. It is indeed the legend.
26 May 2012, 17:22 pm
Ja it’s Skop.
26 May 2012, 17:22 pm
Good luck Heyneke you gonna need it.. because now I got very little faith in your chicken arsed back pedaling cowardice.. and I hope England do you and the country a favor and fck us up with FdP throwing his hands up in desperate non knowing bewilderment
One more useless chicken arsed coward in the cauldron like a goddamn deluded dumb down lamb to the slaughter.
26 May 2012, 17:23 pm
Zim
Tac is never slow. Just a bt confused at times.
26 May 2012, 17:23 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-171: @Dawn(Dawn)-172:
Didn’t know. But you can’t really miss that unique style of his, can you..
26 May 2012, 17:24 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-174:
So what’s up with his new name? Been banned again?
26 May 2012, 17:25 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-174:
For a bull supporter he is indeed very sharp, i have to admit. Blame it on Stellies
26 May 2012, 17:26 pm
Great White “reported” him, to no great effect!
26 May 2012, 17:28 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-170:
the gestapo got their wish they bamboozled the heinous heresy into believing their apartheid propaganda so just like before I had to go underground to fight the good fight for unrelenting freedom to the free thinkers of the world..
In spite of their inane urge to always crucify the poor jewboy the Nazi’s still haven’t learnt yet quite how. They thought they got rid of all of them in the gas chambers.
26 May 2012, 17:28 pm
@Dawn(Dawn)-178:
So he pre-emptively changed his logon name, just in case?
26 May 2012, 17:30 pm
I think this is post-reporting.
26 May 2012, 17:32 pm
@fitzella(fritz ellenbogen)-179:
I’m sure you’ll resurface in some form, no matter what steps the ”Gestapo” may take to try and extinguish your flame. Master of disguise and subterfuge that you are.
26 May 2012, 17:34 pm
This site would be poorer if skop weren’t here
26 May 2012, 17:38 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-182: you actually a good nazi.. don’t let those other bitter and twisted ones try and undermine and influence you. Keep with the truth no matter how hard it may be to always swallow.
off to watch the ding dong battle in bloemfontein..
cheerio chaps and chapattis .. life in the wonderful world of wakey wakey land ain’t such a bad daydream..
see ya anon .. if not in this disguise.. perhaps in another.
26 May 2012, 17:39 pm
Now WTF auschwitz or fiddler on the roof got to with anything?
26 May 2012, 17:43 pm
ask Kapitan Korporal Punishment and his Kollective of Kristellike Kronies over here…
ek’s uit vir n rukkie .. sien julle later laaitjies.
26 May 2012, 17:52 pm
***** ole robshaw looks like a hooray henry – if he lifts tge cup – I shitmybroek ekse..
26 May 2012, 18:10 pm
What the greatest is bring out a book?
Fantastico!
What a legend, right until he **** hisself in the gdam foot too with the only bad move he made.
26 May 2012, 18:12 pm
what is the point of all these training camps when he’s just going to go, not only outside of the country, but people who have since already retired? i just don’t get it…
26 May 2012, 18:21 pm
I can see what Heyneke is doing. Of course he will pick people with experience and people who he knows for the series. He wants to have a platform to build something in the Rugby championship
Its no suprise to me that he wants Wynand Olivier, Fourie Du Preez, Danie Russouw etc in the team, and of course there are decisions he has done which I wouldn’t have but everyone has their own opinion on the bok team and not many would be identical
Personally I find it odd that he’s decided to pick CJ Stander over Siya Kolisi and Pat Cilliers over Steven Kitshoff… however under Meyer they should get their time if they perfrom.
The one issue I have with this whole situation is that the bok team should always field the best available side in the coaches opinion… and even Meyer will know that if he picks Du Preez over Hougaard, M Steyn over Grant or Ndungane over Pietersen or Mvovo that he will not be picking the best players.. but for this series I think he deserves a shot at proving people wrong and beginning to build a side.
Personally the 42 I would have taken would have been:
15 Jaco Taute, Gio Aplon, Joe Pietersen
14 JP Pietersen, Bjorn Basson, JP Pietersen
13 Juan De Jongh, Robert Ebersohn, Tim Whitehead
12 Jean De Villiers, Francois Steyn, Patirck Lambie
11 Bryan Habana, Lwazi Mvovo,
10 Peter Grant, Morne Steyn, Elton Jantjes
9 Francois Hougaard, Jano Vermaak, Fourie Du Preez
8 Joshua Strauss, Willem Alberts, (Pierre Spies / Keegan Daniel / Ryan Kankowski)
7 Marcell Coetzee, Derick Minnie, Jean Deysel
6 Heinrich Brussouw, Siya Kolisi,
5 Andries Bekker, Juandre Kruger
4 Eben Etzebeth, Rynhardt Elstadt, Steven Sykes
3 Jannie Du Plessis, CJ Van Der Linde, Werner Kruger
2 Bismark Du Plessis, Adriaan Strauss, Chillyboy Ralepelle
1 Tendai Mtawarira, Coenie Oosthuzyen, Steven Kitsoff
26 May 2012, 18:25 pm
what is the general consensus with Habana or Mvovo? who should get the spot?
26 May 2012, 18:27 pm
Woops JP Pietersen twice I ment to put Willie Le Roux on one wing
26 May 2012, 21:22 pm
@fitzella skop i always thought you were wacko and then i realised that this website might be a tad boring without your wacko comments so i have changed my mind and welcome you back and i am GLAD the stormers got humped and by the guppies hahahahahahahahhahaha.
26 May 2012, 22:30 pm
The reality of the situation is the dearth of test quality half back prospects in the Republic. Can not expect Hougard to carry no9 position on his lonesome. HM has little option, but to recall,reinstate,reintroduce the birdman, FDP.
Why he would also offer him captaincy, is an indictment on previous coaching regimes non strategic planning in grooming young talent for leadership positions.
HM is in a bit of a bind regarding the type of game Boks are expected to play,only one option really, they will play the tried and tested game plan of kick,chase and hope, but if opposition get the better or even match Bok pack…………its going to get very interesting.
27 May 2012, 07:48 am
I am no bull, but I am very comfortable with this!
I reckon fourie still has plenty to offer boks. in 2010 he was played into ground by ludeke and carried injuries into international season. in 2011 he was just starting to get back to his best when boks were knocked out of world cup.
pity fourie wont have a few games of super rugby to get up to speed though.
with hougie on bench we got a super duper sub to come on either 9 or wing depending on what the game needs. if fourie does not come back, then ruan should get a shot – have not seen him play but sounds like he’s in good form too.
27 May 2012, 07:59 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-194:
from what i’ve seen in the super15 all teams are playing that kick chase territorial game. teams have gotten past the tackler having to release the player befre playing the ball and game has swung back in favour of the defending team.
until the rules change again no teams will be willing to run the ball from inside their own half. kicking is a feature of the game – dont kid yourself the boks will be the only ones playing the territory game in the 4nations (or whatever it is called). aussies and kiwis have a tactical game.
in my opinion it is the teams with the best tactical kicking game that get to do the most running. thats because they win the kicking contest and spend more time with quality ball in their opponents half. in last years Super15 carter and cooper kicked the most. and reds and crusaders contested the final…
27 May 2012, 08:02 am
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-191:
habana will probably get the nod 1st up, because with only one week to prepare the team meyer will go with experience. he’ll then give players like mvovo time to play themselves into contention, either off the bench, or in the 3rd test if boks have the series wrapped up by then. thats my opinion anyway. and what i’d do if i was coach.
27 May 2012, 09:19 am
@munkiboi(munkiboi)-196:
Howzit Munki, have to agree with most of what you stated, have no problem with tactical kicking for territory, relieving pressure or to put on pressure through kick and chase. A good kicking game can be the difference between winning and losing, I have no illusions about that. What I do have a problem with is when your primary attack is the kick and chase. You say Carter and Cooper kicked more in the S15 last year, it would also be interesting to know their stats for attacking plays other than kicks.
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