Du Preez set to skipper Boks
26 May 2012
Keo.co.za understands Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer has offered Fourie du Preez the captaincy.
This website’s information indicates that Meyer met with Du Preez this week to offer him the position on a short-term basis that will initially stretch across the England series in June, after which the situation will be reviewed.
Du Preez, who has just completed his first season in Japan with Suntory Sungoliath, is thought to be keen on the job, although he has not formally accepted yet.
Du Preez is known to be a reluctant captain, preferring to operate in the shadows. In the absence of Victor Matfield he accepted the job with the Bulls in 2008 but later spoke about his lack of enjoyment in what turned out to be a disastrous campaign.
Speaking to SA Rugby magazine in 2011 Du Preez said the World Cup would probably be his last involvement with the Springboks, but added that he would reconsider if Meyer was appointed. It appears he will now lend his long time mentor a helping hand, with Meyer not convinced by the quality of leaders on offer in South Africa.
Meyer had planned to install Victor Matfield as his captain, but those plans were shelved when it emerged that an IRB ruling on retired players precludes Matfield from selection for six months after he announced his return.
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26 May 2012, 15:51 pm
Jussus! Am am so exited, After reading the article and comments, i now realise that the Bulls supporters here have a direct line to the mind of Heineke Meyer. all I have to do is read these posters and I will know everything.
What the team lineup will be; who the captain is; who will win all the games; Everything.
It seems Bulls supporters now have a direct understanding and knowledge of Bok Rugby above everybody else. There ex coach is obviously in direct contact with them. Probably braais with them after games.
26 May 2012, 15:55 pm
Of course we must also accept this article as the gospel according to KEO.
Just so exiting!
26 May 2012, 15:56 pm
Of course, the worst crime of all that Heyneke could commit with this team is actually beat the Poms 3-0.
That would make the moaners hate him more than anything, because then he would have proved them wrong.
26 May 2012, 15:58 pm
I sincerely hope Heineke does.
26 May 2012, 16:04 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-103: how long before skop starts his campaign of hatred against heineke?
26 May 2012, 16:08 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-103: i think you will find most people just want the Boks to succeed
26 May 2012, 16:08 pm
Rangerman, it will be nothing compared to every other bok coach surely. Right now Heineke walks on water. And for all I know he deserves it. Problem is he hasn’t won a thing yet.
26 May 2012, 16:08 pm
Far more interesting than this topic, is the breaking news that has (strangely?) not received any coverage on this site as far as I can see, but please correct me if I missed it.
And that is Peter de Villiers’explosive revelation to the media that it was none other than Cheeky Watson who was behind the *** tape blackmail incident when De Villiers didn’t perform according to his requirements.
Come on Keo, surely this is very relevant material, given the prominence of the whole King’s saga in the media at the moment. Surely any neutral journalist would be reporting on this story as headline news?
26 May 2012, 16:09 pm
Hensopper1 you are SO mistaken – Tacitus and his ilk are all Mighty Men like Heineken – hence the hotline to the mind of the master.
26 May 2012, 16:12 pm
Greybeard, that’s what I said.
‘Mighty’?
Is their more to this?
26 May 2012, 16:12 pm
@greatest13gerber(greatest13gerber)-61: couldnt agree more – Hargreaves has been a nobody his entire career
26 May 2012, 16:12 pm
…there….
26 May 2012, 16:14 pm
Just wondering at the rugby pedigree of some people on here. Wonder how many of them have ever coached an Under 13C team much less a Springbok team in a test match.
26 May 2012, 16:16 pm
Gee Slumtown – you played lock at what level? Must be very high to criticise Hargreaves who never selected himself. Gee I’m in awe of these great rugby minds!!!! FFS
26 May 2012, 16:17 pm
Hensopper you ***hole – dont you have some respect?
26 May 2012, 16:18 pm
Must have been alright at some point to play for SA schools.
26 May 2012, 16:19 pm
at least hensopper
26 May 2012, 16:19 pm
Nothing at all Greybeard. You seem fairly disrespectful yourself.
26 May 2012, 16:21 pm
Only of some of the “Kenners” here hensopper
26 May 2012, 16:21 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-113: have you?
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-108: where did you read this tac?
so cheeky tried to blackmail jake, told b van zyl he would have his farm taken away and tried to blackmail pdivvy?
haha, this news will end up in so much confusion in camps bay
26 May 2012, 16:22 pm
Personally I think Heryneke deserves a chance before we criticise or second guess him – and as Tacitus says – it is a 3 match decision
26 May 2012, 16:22 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-103:
3-0 against the rebuilding Poms would be perfect Tac, just perfect.
Even a 3N win would be grand.
But the rot will eventually be need to be repaired. Better to swallow the harsh medicine now.
Time to show some faith in the NEW GENERATION.
26 May 2012, 16:22 pm
@fantasticbarnsmell(fantasticbarnsmell)-106: We all want the boks to succeed, but if true, I think that this decision is a travesty. Heineke was the one that said, “I will first pick my team and then my captain!” Hougaard would be the starting scrumhalf in pretty much any other international team, so why take the boks backwards with this decision to recall Du Preez?
26 May 2012, 16:23 pm
Have I what? Played at a high level? NO – coached at one though – and correct me if im wrong, but i didnt call Hargreraves useless or a coward
26 May 2012, 16:26 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-120:
I’t's from Divvy’s book. Excerpts quoted in various media this week. Not a peep here on Keo though.
26 May 2012, 16:27 pm
cane 122
You worry about your NEW GENERATION and we will worry about ours. C*U*N*T
26 May 2012, 16:28 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-121: He deserves a chance yes – something that was never afforded to P de Villiers. See how different ‘walk on water’ Meyer already has it? And no, I was not a P Divvy praise singer by any stretch – but I am decent enough to realise that Heyneke is already being given the ‘benefit of the doubt’, and the ‘support’ of the nation, whereas Divvy (1 day into his tenure was already being given hellllllllll – and to quote YOU, ‘just like certain players, he didn’t select himself either’)
Just not sure why everything Meyer does is being met with ‘ooohs and ahhhs’ and simpering of the likes never seen before. Why can’t his methodology be questioned like Divvy’s was?
26 May 2012, 16:30 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-126: WOW! For someone preaching’decency’ to others, you failed a little in your interpretation of the word right there……..
26 May 2012, 16:31 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-124: personally i try not to personally attack players so yes, guys like rl calling hargreaves a coward are offisdes but go easy oin red pu s sy, he is a simpleton as evidenced by his constant repetition of the word “roar” on this site.
secondly mate, no one gives a toss who you coached, played for or sat nect to on a plane between pofadder and pietermaritzburg ok?
this is a forum for discussion and debate and it is quite a robust platform as we all have views and share them.
like all saffas, we are always right.
if you are looking for company amongst “kenners” then i suggest ruggaworld (PS’s site). it is far more technical than us bunch of muppets.
your good mate
rangerman
26 May 2012, 16:31 pm
Fair point Sharks….. but I also gave PDivvy a chance. But thats just me – and im not part of the Heyneke Praise Singers Brigade – I dont like his game plan either but he is now the Bok coach for better or for worse and I will trust his decisions UNTILL he f*u*c*k*s up and not be a prophet of doom until he does
26 May 2012, 16:32 pm
i am a huge hougaard fan but he’s been average at best in the last few games.
this may atually work.
26 May 2012, 16:34 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-125:
@rangerman(rangerman)-120:
Tac is one of the people who never had a good word to say about p dV and never had any trust or believe in him.
That was until he started to accuse the watsons.
Now he believes in him.
26 May 2012, 16:34 pm
@Tacitus(Deucalion)-125: hectic.
26 May 2012, 16:36 pm
Roobarb dont you think that Hougie hasnt been given a fair chance? He seldom plays 80 mins at 9, and now he is being somewhat undermined by talk of FduP returning? He isnt Fourie du Preez nor was meant to be ( to paraphrase TS Eliot). At his best he will be better than Joost and plays I believe a similar game
26 May 2012, 16:38 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-132: haha, i think tac actually warmed to pdivvy at one stage until it was clear he would not supplant john with vic.
but that is all rather academic.
fact remains, divvy claims it was cheeky who tried to blackmail him and hjake said the same and b van zyl too.
where there is smoke ther is fire rob, surely we must agree its probable cheeky tried some back room stronarming?
26 May 2012, 16:40 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-113:
I played for St Josephs 2nd 15 in 1971.
(I usually started, but, not always, but often, got subbed off in the 2nd half).
But hey………………………………………..does my lack of history on the field, make me any lessor a fan of THE GAME,
.
than say Jake.
In my tiny mind, I can relive every moment of glory I bestowed upon my Teams.
They are few, but hey, we are not all Joost’s, Justins, Jakes, Jacks, Jaques or Johnstons.
but we love the game.
Or anyone else for that matter.
26 May 2012, 16:40 pm
@roobarb2(roobarb2)-131: Not sure we’ve been watching the same games mate. Notice how many defenders he commits around the fringes of the ruck.
26 May 2012, 16:41 pm
Dirty business this blackmail stuff. True, Tacitus why is this not newsworthy? True or not it should be discussed maybe. What would Heineke [sorry, I am not on first name terms with Mr Meyer] make of this do you think?
I noticed on the Lions thread that the massive blow that was the injury to Taute was hardly mentioned as a factor to a savage loss to a blood and guts Lions effort.
I like reading the interesting perspectives here, that’s why I visit.
26 May 2012, 16:44 pm
@theonlylionsfanincapetown(Lions)-137: look, he’s been solid, but how many of his kicks have been charged down? he’s been much better and a lot of his incredible performances have been on the wing. i was sure he has to be a scrummie but i’m not so sure anymore.
26 May 2012, 16:45 pm
Yes cane – like you I was an average player who loved every moment i spent on a rugby field, and my beef with you wanst about your playing history – I just am very protective of my beloved Boks and I think you would react the same if i was ugly about the All Blacks. Yes we are fans – I respect you as a fan, but be nice about the Boks ok? I respect the All Blacks and would appreciate the same in return. Cheers mate!
26 May 2012, 16:46 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-135:
I just find it a bit rich that de Villiers kept dead quiet about everything until now- very conveniently at the same time as his book is getting published.
I am not saying Cheeky is an angel but Piet has got no job, a loose tongue and a moerse imagination,. – deadly combination imo, lol.
26 May 2012, 16:47 pm
ok i am out.
going to go look for a high level team to coach and failing that i will watch the cheetahs (go cheetahs!) and then the sharks (go sharks!).
i might even offer an opinion or two, quietly of course because i will have failed in my quest to coach a high level team.
i will try again tomorrow to find a high level team to coach because i have an opinion to offer and i want it to be valid and acceptable that i do so.
tjorts.
26 May 2012, 16:47 pm
@theonlylionsfanincapetown(Lions)-123: i agree with you completely actually… i was just pointing out that people criticise this decision not because they have something against Heyneke Meyer, but rather because they want the Boks to succeed, and this decision appears detrimental to that cause…
26 May 2012, 16:48 pm
@greybeard(greybeard)-134: Spot on right there! That is what many (including the Kiwis) are questioning. What does Meyer’s reluctance to entrust Hougaard with the 9 jersey in this series, say to Hougaard? Yes, Hougie is by no means the finished product at 9, but the areas in which he lacks are those WHICH CAN ONLY IMPROVE with continued exposure and game time at the highest level. It just seems as though Meyer only trusts du Preez and Matfield as ‘extensions of himself on the field’ – Spies also seems to have the inside lane…..(now that’s a whole new nightmare)
26 May 2012, 16:48 pm
@Robzim(Robzim)-141:
Rob
But this was the rumour back at the time already. The only difference is, now Divvy raised the issue himself. Whatever the case, it is clear that he and Cheeky are enemies. Which is strange, considering Cheeky’s strong support for Divvy’s appointment at the time that it was expected that Divvy would appoint Luke as captain.
26 May 2012, 16:48 pm
@roobarb2(roobarb2)-139: The thing is, he’s never gonna have as much space at scrumhalf as he did on the wing. His kicking is improving and his speed of service is second to none and he commits defenders more than any other scrumhalf. If defenders take their eyes off him, he will break or score.
26 May 2012, 16:49 pm
Piet should also get an article feature for Huisgenoot.
Jus, that would be just as interesting.
26 May 2012, 16:49 pm
Hensopper on the subject of Cheeky – I wonder how many of the bloggers here are old enough to have seen Cheeky play? I saw him. And I get very annoyed at the press that is now given out that he “gave up Bok colours” to play township rugby. Cheeky was a hard provincial layer who was never even 10the in line for a Bok cap – remember that in those days 4 tests was about the average season – and Cheeky played at the same time as people like Syd Nomis, Gert Muller, Hannes Viljoen, Andy vd Watt – the list goes on and on. Cheeky would never have made a Bok side on merit, much like his son Puke wouldnt.
26 May 2012, 16:49 pm
@rangerman(rangerman)-142: Your Sharks might need a coach after this evening? Try there? You seem like one of the nicer Sharks fans – so enjoy the game, and may the team that wants it more, win.
26 May 2012, 16:49 pm
@theonlylionsfanincapetown(Lions)-146: so why not give your best attacking player more space?
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