Super Rugby preview – Round 15
1 Jun 2012
JON CARDINELLI and RYAN VREDE analyse the key match-ups and pick the winners at the weekend.
It’s finally here, the north-south derby everybody has been waiting for. Unfortunately for the Stormers, they will head into this clash without half of their first-choice team. Both JC and Vrede are expecting the Bully Boys to take full advantage, and record a comfortable victory. It could be a result that decides the South African conference.
Meanwhile, the Sharks should pick up a bonus-point victory in Johannesburg and the Cheetahs will bank four points thanks to a bye. The big call by the keo.co.za pundits is for the Hurricanes to tame the Waratahs in Sydney. The Waratahs have been terrible in 2012, and a young Hurricanes side should punish them for another misfiring performance.
KEO.CO.ZA SUCCESS RATE
VREDE: 64/93 (69%)
JC: 66/93 (71%)
CRUSADERS vs HIGHLANDERS, CHRISTCHURCH, FRIDAY 09:35
VREDE’S CALL: The Crusaders, in typical fashion, are getting stronger as their campaign progresses and the synergy they showed in their demolition of the Blues a fortnight ago was an ominous sign for future opponents. Dan Carter is steadily finding his groove, as is Richie McCaw, and both will be influential in Christchurch. The Highlanders will be boosted by the return of Nasi Manu, who has been a constant source of go-forward, but their approach, which rests heavily on keeping possession through multiple phases, lacks the variation to trouble the Saders. The hosts will pin them in their territory and pressure them into errors through accurate defence, from where Carter will kick penalties or they’ll exploit broken field opportunities generated from turnovers. They won’t be troubled at the set phases either, making for a comfortable win. Crusaders by 10
JC’S CALL: The win against the Blues was important to the Highlanders’ play-off prospects, but the result of this fixture could put a dent in those hopes. The Crusaders have welcomed back Kieran Read and Richie McCaw has moved to his preferred position of No 7. As a collective, the Crusaders forwards will need to be at their combative best if they’re going to outmuscle the rugged Highlanders, who pride themselves on their prowess at the collisions. The Crusaders midfield hasn’t been the same since Sonny Bill Williams defected to the Chiefs, but on the back of a superior forward effort, they should be too strong for the Highlanders. Crusaders by 7
Crusaders – 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Adam Whitelock, 13 Robbie Fruean, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Zac Guildford, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 George Whitelock, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Ben Franks, 2 Corey Flynn, 1 Wyatt Crockett.
Subs: 16 Quentin MacDonald, 17 Owen Franks, 18 Tom Donnelly, 19 Matt Todd, 20 Willi Heinz, 21 Tom Taylor, 22 Tom Marshall.
Highlanders – 15 Ben Smith, 14 Kurt Baker, 13 Tamati Ellison, 12 Phil Burleigh, 11 Hosea Gear, 10 Chris Noakes, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Nasi Manu, 7 James Haskell, 6 Adam Thomson, 5 Josh Bekhuis, 4 Jarrad Hoeata, 3 Chris King, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Jamie Mackintosh (c).
Subs: 16 Jason Rutledge, 17 Bronson Murray, 18 Nick Crosswell, 19 Tim Boys, 20 Jimmy Cowan, 21 Mike Delany, 22 Kade Poki.
REBELS vs BRUMBIES, MELBOURNE, FRIDAY 11:40
VREDE’S CALL: The Rebels sizzled for a fortnight before the Canes doused their fire last weekend and the Brumbies will give them a further reality check on Friday. Don’t expect Jake White’s side to be clinical given the number of changes they’ve made. But their attacking and defensive structures are excellent, certainly too good for the Rebels, and they’ll win off the back of dominance in every facet of play. Brumbies by 10
JC’S CALL: The Rebels are back in Melbourne, but they head into this game without the game-breaking talents of Kurtley Beale. They have the potential to trouble opposition teams at the breakdowns and collisions, but I don’t expect they will best the Brumbies in these facets, and without Beale or James O’Connor they don’t have the individual brilliance to breach that Brumbies defence. Expect another ‘South African’ performance by the Brumbies as they break the Rebels down through a powerful forward showing, a strong kicking game and a determined defensive effort. Brumbies by 12
Rebels – 15 Julian Huxley, 14 Mark Gerrard, 13 Mitch Inman, 12 Stirling Mortlock (c), 11 Cooper Vuna, 10 James Hilgendorf, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Gareth Delve, 7 Hugh Perrett, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Hugh Pyle, 4 Cadeyrn Neville, 3 Jono Owen, 2 Adam Freier, 1 Nic Henderson
Subs: 16 Ged Robinson, 17 Rodney Blake, 18 Al Campbell, 19 Tom Chamberlain, 20 Tim Davidson, 21 Richard Kingi, 22 Nic Stirzaker
Brumbies – 15 Robbie Coleman, 14 Jesse Mogg, 13 Andrew Smith, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Joe Tomane, 10 Zack Holmes, 9 Nic White, 8 Ben Mowen, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Peter Kimlin, 5 Leon Power, 4 Scott Fardy, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Ruaidhri Murphy.
Subs: 16 Anthony Hegarty, 17 Scott Sio, 18 Fotu Auelua, 19 Colby Faingaa, 20 Ian Prior, 21 Henry Speight, 22 Tevita Kuridrani.
BLUES vs CHIEFS, AUCKLAND, SATURDAY 09:35
VREDE’S CALL: Even without a couple of key forwards, the Chiefs will still be too strong for the Blues in all the forward disciplines, achieving a convincing win through the dominance of their heavies. Their back division’s potency needs no elaboration, and with the Blues unable to stifle their momentum at the gainline, and at best achieving parity at the set phases, Sonny Bill and co will thrive, cutting the Blues to pieces throughout the contest. Chiefs by 15
JC’S CALL: ‘Lam brings back big guns’ the headline exclaimed, but the form of these misfiring first-choice players has been a problem. The decision to back some untried combinations backfired in the last game, and picking a new team again this week will do nothing for the Blues’ synergy. So what can we expect? The Chiefs got back to their winning ways with a victory against the Bulls, and will want to build on that. The first half will belong to the forwards and in the second 40 Dave Rennie may empty his dangerous bench in order to secure a bonus point. Chiefs by 13
Blues – 15 Rudi Wulf, 14 Lachie Munro, 13 Francis Saili, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Rene Ranger, 10 Michael Hobbs, 9 Alby Mathewson, 8 Luke Braid (c), 7 Daniel Braid, 6 Steven Luatua, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Liaki Moli, 3 Tevita Mailau, 2 James Parsons, 1 Tony Woodcock.
Subs: 16 Tom McCartney, 17 Angus Ta’avao, 18 Filo Paulo, 19 Peter Saili, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Hadleigh Parkes, 22 David Raikuna.
Chiefs – 15 Andrew Horrell, 14 Maritino Nemani, 13 Jackson Willison, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Asaeli Tikoirotuma, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 8 Kane Thompson, 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Messam (c), 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Michael Fitzgerald, 3 Ben Afeaki, 2 Mahonri Schwalger, 1 Sona Taumalolo.
Subs: 16 Hika Elliot, 17 Ben Tameifuna, 18 Romana Graham, 19 Scott Waldrom, 20 Brendon Leonard, 21 Robbie Robinson, 22 Lelia Masaga
WARATAHS vs HURRICANES, SYDNEY, SATURDAY 11:40
VREDE’S CALL: The Canes will have to rein in their approach somewhat against the Tahs, who are certainly more competent on defence than the Rebels (the Canes’ most recent opponents). Don’t expect them to veer too far from their expansive strategy. They will have to establish a platform to play in that manner though, and they have the strike runners to do so. The Tahs looked toothless on their South African tour, and provided the Canes don’t get too loose, or get sloppy on defence (as they are prone to do) the Sydney side shouldn’t pose too many questions the Canes won’t have a rebuttal for. Canes by 8
JC’S CALL: The Waratahs should have learned an important lesson from last week: You can’t play an expansive game against a team that has a stronger attack than your own. They played into the Cheetahs’ hands last week by employing this looser style, and then conspired to throw away a handy lead. Whether they have learned from this lesson or not will be evident on Saturday. I have my doubts. The selection of Sarel Pretorius gives their game plan away, as the South African’s strengths are suited to a running game. Defence and an overly conservative game is not his forte. His passing game is also a weakness which means the Waratahs will lack a good link between forwards and backs. They may also be reluctant to kick too much given the Hurricanes’ dangerous back three. Meanwhile, Pretorius and the Waratahs’ loose forwards will have their hands full trying to contain TJ Perenara. Get ready for more Tahs torture. Hurricanes by 6
Waratahs – 15 Bernard Foley, 14 Tom Kingston, 13 Rob Horne, 12 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 11 Drew Mitchell, 10 Berrick Barnes, 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 Jono Jenkins, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Kane Douglas, 4 Sitaleki Timani, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Benn Robinson (c).
Reserves: 16 John Ulugia, 17 Jeremy Tilse, 18 Richard Stanford, 19 Lopeti Timani, 20 Brendan McKibbon, 21 Daniel Halangahu, 22 Tom Carter.
Hurricanes – 15 Andre Taylor, 14 Alapati Leiua, 13 Conrad Smith (c), 12 Tim Bateman, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 TJ Perenara, 8 Victor Vito, 7 Jack Lam, 6 Faifili Levave, 5 Jason Eaton, 4 Jeremy Thrush, 3 Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Ben May.
Subs: 16 Motu Matu’u, 17 Reg Goodes, 18 James Broadhurst, 19 Brad Shields, 20 Chris Eaton, 21 Tusi Pisi, 22 Jayden Hayward
LIONS vs SHARKS, JOHANNESBURG, SATURDAY 17:05
VREDE’S CALL: My colleague Simon Borchardt wrote accurately last week that in losing to the Force the Lions not only hit rock bottom but actually started digging. Now with news that Jaco Taute has been ruled out for the rest of the campaign they may soon strike oil. I refuse to waste my time with elaborate analysis on this (mis) match. The Sharks will boss every facet of the game, their brutality at the tackle point on attack ensuring they get the bonus-point victory that keeps them in with an outside chance of the conference title, while their ascendancy at the collisions on defence will make for another miserable evening for Mitchell’s mob. Sharks by 15
JC’S CALL: For the Sharks to pick up a bonus-point win, they simply need to stay motivated. They were dominant in last week’s match against the Stormers and probably would have scored a fourth try if they hadn’t dropped their intensity in the second stanza. The Lions will be outmatched and outgunned, but underestimating them in Joburg would be foolish. The Sharks need to ensure the game doesn’t degenerate into a loose scrap, as this will allow the Lions to remain competitive. This must be the Lions’ objective, to spoil and hassle in an attempt to unsettle what looks to be a much-improved Sharks unit. However, given this is the Sharks’ last game for four weeks (they have a bye at the end of June when Super Rugby resumes) they should be going all out to secure maximum points. Sharks by 20
Lions – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Deon van Rensburg, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Butch James, 11 Anthonie Volminck, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Tian Meyer, 8 Joshua Strauss (c), 7 Grant Hattingh, 6 Derick Minnie, 5 Franco van der Merwe, 4 Hendrik Roodt, 3 Pat Cilliers, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 CJ van der Linde.
Subs: 16 Martin Bezuidenhout, 17 JC Janse van Rensburg, 18 Etienne Oosthuizen, 19 Cobus Grobbelaar, 20 Ross Cronje, 21 Waylon Murray, 22 Ruan Combrinck.
Sharks – 15 Pat Lambie, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Freddie Michalak, 9 Charl McLeod, 8 Keegan Daniel (c), 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Subs: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Jandre Marais, 19 Ryan Kankowski, 20 Jacques Botes, 21 Marius Joubert, 22 Louis Ludik.
BULLS vs STORMERS, PRETORIA, SATURDAY 19:10
VREDE’S CALL: I think an extensive injury list will be the undoing of the Stormers. Six frontline players are missing, the bulk of them Boks, and the Bulls’ imposing record when they’ve returned from tour is an indicator that the men from Pretoria will rise to the challenge, I fear the Stormers’ bid to win the conference will suffer another blow. If the Bulls manage to pin them in their own territory through good tactical kicking it will be a long evening for the Cape side. The Sharks excelled in this department last week and forced the Stormers into rushed kick returns and, later, cavalier attacks from deep. The Bulls won’t be averse to punting the ball into touch either. They lead the tournament in lineout steals and with Andries Bekker out, the Stormers are extremely vulnerable in this area. I think the Bulls will circumvent the Stormers’ primary strength – their punishing defence – by asking them to make the play and feeding off their errors. Expect the Bulls’ tries to come from broken field, with Morné Steyn’s boot a valuable source of points as well. I just don’t think the Stormers will get into scoring positions often enough for them to challenge for what would be an upset victory. Bulls by 9
JC’S CALL: With their pack retreating and their back three peppered with high balls, it promises to be an uncomfortable evening for the Stormers. Every north-south derby is intensely physical, but with the Bulls having the edge at the collisions and in the kicking game, the Stormers may need to do a lot of damage control at the back. Gio Aplon showcased his try-scoring ability when he was moved to the wing last week, but the Stormers know that losing fullback Joe Pietersen was a massive blow. Pietersen has the kicking game to counter that of the Bulls as well as the positional play and aerial skills to cope with an aerial assault. Apart from Aplon, the Stormers’ wingers will also be targeted, although Bryan Habana turned in a brave showing under the high ball last week. What amplifies the Bulls kicking game is their kick chase, as Bjorn Basson has become a specialist in winning the ball back for his team. These tactics will be employed after the Bulls outmuscle the Stormers at the set pieces and dominate the gainline battle. Peter Grant’s goal-kicking boot won’t be enough to spare Stormers’ blushes on this occasion. Bulls by 10
Bulls – 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (c), 7 CJ Stander, 6 Dewald Potgieter, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.
Subs: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Rayno Gerber, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 Arno Botha, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 Francois Venter.
Stormers – 15 Gio Aplon, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Jebb Sinclair, 7 Rynhardt Elstadt, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 De Kock Steenkamp, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Deon Carstens.
Subs: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 Brok Harris, 18 Quinn Roux, 19 Don Armand, 20 Nick Fenton-Wells, 21 Louis Schreuder, 22 Burton Francis.
78 Comments
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31 May 2012, 11:58 am
Tahs to beat Canes… Vrede and Cardinelli are wrong dragons
31 May 2012, 12:08 pm
waratahs for me
31 May 2012, 12:08 pm
lions anyone?
purrrrrrrrrrr
31 May 2012, 12:11 pm
I hate having to agree with this, it could even be worse than the 9 or ten predicted.
And Bull supporters being what they are, I’ll have to listen to just this one result for another sixty years or more.
But, you never know, so GO STORMERS B side!
31 May 2012, 12:19 pm
@WP_(WP_)-1: @Brigadier Van Zyl(Brigadier Van Zyl)-2: Yes
31 May 2012, 12:26 pm
IS ETSEBETH INJURED OR NOT?
31 May 2012, 12:27 pm
Pains me to say this, but i think the bulls will take this one comfortably… The stormers Backline could not give one good performace this year and with players like Duane, Bekker, Joe, and Koster out, this will be one way traffic….
My superbru picks ar eexactly the same as these muppits… eish
31 May 2012, 12:28 pm
@Butthead(Bradenel)-6: I think he is carrying a injury which makes him less effective at the moment…. will not see that in your face defense like at Newlands against the pink poofsters
31 May 2012, 12:31 pm
@Provvas
That’s not good, they should seriously give him a break the boks need him. Pure talent
31 May 2012, 12:35 pm
Wow Vrede on the lions
Very dismissive
31 May 2012, 12:48 pm
“they may soon strike oil.”
Unless they stop the rot somehow, they may surface on the Pacific.
31 May 2012, 13:00 pm
Well, if the Stormers lose this one they are forced to rely on others to help them win the conference.
1) If the Stormers lose to the Bulls, it would all come down to the Sharks vs. Bulls game. IF (and it is of course a big if) the Sharks beat the Bulls, then if all three teams win all their other games without bonus points it ends as follows:
Stormers: 62 points
Sharks: 61 points
Bulls: 60 points
Of course that is without bonus points, so not very realistic. Stormers will have to start picking up some bonus points if the want to stay on top in that eventuality!
2) If the Bulls beat the Stormers and the Sharks, then they are home free. Without bonus points it would stand like this:
Bulls: 64 points
Stormers: 62 points
Sharks: 57 points
Which would mean that the Stormers could only catch the Bulls if they got more bonus points than them, an unlikely scenario considering current form.
3) Of course if the Stormers beat the Bulls they should be away and in the clear! (Although of course nothing is ever sure, especially with a local derby against the Cheetahs)
Stormers: 66 points
Sharks: 57 or 61 points depending on the derby
Bulls: 56 or 60 points depending on the derby
So, all to play for on Saturday. Even a losing bonus point would be VERY valuable for the Stormers and give them a lifeline.
31 May 2012, 13:05 pm
@wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-12:
Yes,everyone writing Stormers off at Loftus,then their big names expected to be back for remaining 3 matches.Interesting times indeed.
31 May 2012, 14:11 pm
Sharks at Ellis Park: A Kiwi referee and a chilling altitude may counter the detrimental effect of Jantjies for the Lions, I smell an upset
Lions by 3 to 7
Stormers at Loftus: Kaplan will ensure an un biased refereeing, with Wepener coming on after half time combined with the Altitude effect, the Stormers may find they miss Jonker a Joubert badly
Bulls by 8 to 11
31 May 2012, 14:22 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-14: Just metioning Joubert in that sentence proves you are just one yed idiot!! Stormers have won only 2 / 7 games with Joubert as ref in Superrugby since 2007……. the Curri cup stats are even worse….
As for Jonker.. I remember Wp losing a game against the valke after he called a perfectly good pass forward in the CC
31 May 2012, 14:26 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-14: Yes you’re right of course. Kirchner, Basson, Chilliboy and Ndugane to get the Bulls home again.
31 May 2012, 14:33 pm
@Hondo(Hondo)-14: Do you dislike all people of colour? Or only those who excel at the highest levels of sport, due to their talent en dedication? (I have a sneaky feeling you desperately wanted to excel at something sport related – but failed, not because you are white – but because you just kind of sucked at it.) Am I close? Getting warmer?
31 May 2012, 14:38 pm
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-17: Hondo is more broadminded than that He also believes most refs are paid to ensure Stormer victories or Bulls defeats. No one trick pony, our Hondo.
31 May 2012, 14:40 pm
Crusaders by 7 (Tough derby)
Brumbies by 2 (Can go either way)
Blues by 4 (I got warned by superbru that it will be a huge upset, but hey!!!)
Waratahs by 3 (can go either way)
Sharks by 5 (Lions will score a couple in the last 20 to come close)
Bulls by 5 (Eish)
31 May 2012, 15:01 pm
@Kleuter(Kleuter)-19:
Blues by 4? That is wishful thinking.
31 May 2012, 15:04 pm
@wpjoulekkading(wpjoulekkading)-20: Was told the same thing by superbru. Blues did okay last week. Chiefs not that great. And as we all know, derbies are always tough.
31 May 2012, 15:18 pm
Jammer stompies… Julle gaan n groot pakslae kry hiedie naweek….
31 May 2012, 15:21 pm
@stormer in a teacup(stormer in a teacup)-18: Oh f o k. One of those types who bought all the Da Vinci Code “Solve it yourself” books at the time? Lost causes and all that……
31 May 2012, 17:25 pm
@RugbyRIP(RugbyRIP)-4:
What? Just like we have been hearing next year will be the year from the stormer supporters for 11 years? Hope your team wins a trophy dips h i t, them you can also shout from the mountain top
The only game without winning the trophee itself to brag about for the next 60 years is the 74-10 and this week it will be eclipsed.
Go Bulls
31 May 2012, 17:35 pm
wow, it would be a BEEEEG mistake to understimate the stormers, chaps….
i just hope Ludeke & co arent buying into all this propaganda… this stormers team may be depleted but they have a point to prove.
lets hope my Bulls can keep their heads and take this one…
31 May 2012, 18:32 pm
Painfull yes! The Stormers do not have the personnel to do it. The B ulls will do it and the Sharks and the end result we have 3 teams in the top 6. Is that not what we aspire for?
31 May 2012, 19:03 pm
WP RIP #4 the 75-14 game the stormers lost is still fresh in my mind,although i do not think this will happen on saturday i will settle for a win hopefully wiyh a bonus point.
31 May 2012, 19:29 pm
@hermanWP(hermanWP)-26: My feeling too. Wonderful too have SA rugby in this position. I just hope that we can get a home final.
31 May 2012, 19:36 pm
It is time that we come to grips that Grant be sent back to Japan; duvenhage to be be replaced by a competent scrummie ; habana be placed on the rack of sell by dates and de jongh be taught to take the outside gap. Fleck to be replaced as well
31 May 2012, 19:41 pm
@hermanWP(hermanWP)-29: Herman, woon jy in Brits?
31 May 2012, 19:52 pm
@RugbyRIP(RugbyRIP)-4: On the contrary. We tend to focus on successful campaigns, not on one particular game in the season.
31 May 2012, 20:02 pm
@hermanWP(hermanWP)-29:
I agree re Grant and if I was AC I would throw the chequebook at someone like Jantjes from the Lions.
Otherwise, what do we have locally::
Francis- fairly useless
Van Aswegen- very good but sadly injury proned
Catrakillis– mmm, not sure, he seems to have made some progress this year, so maybe he must get a chance.
Tim Swiel- schoolboy superstar, but must still prove himself at senior level
Pollard- another schoolboy superstar apparently off to Blue Bulls though
So I would go for Jantjes and let Van Aswegen, Carlkakillis and Swiel fight it out for the position of his understudy.
Sadly I think Grant will be back next season and it will be much of the same.
31 May 2012, 20:02 pm
Nee maat Big Jack, ek is n Capie maar rate SA rugby bo Stormers se sukses. A coetzee is in dieselfde mould as Snorman. Ek wil my Stormers sien rugby speel en nie die sh..t wat hul tans opdiep nie. Laat rugby wen, soos die Chiefs . My volste vertoue in Meyer en laat dit n les wees dat die posisie van Stormers op log hul steeds laat in posisie van minimum Springbokke.
31 May 2012, 20:47 pm
Bulls fans are dreaming if they think its going to be a run away train against the Stormers this weekend. If the Stormers pitch up mentally an physically they can grin out a win on loftus fo sho !!! Go Stormers
31 May 2012, 20:52 pm
Hoe op dees aarde kon die Stormers toelaat dat Pollard gekoop word deur Bulls? Bulls doen hul huiswerk! Defnitief kan ons ook nie Van den Heever teruggee met n refund nie. Het ons werklik bobbejane in control in WP?. N. Kannadees wat nie n bal kan vang op n afskop nie. Asb kan iemand my verkwalik as ek die sharks. En bulls ondersteun in hul Quest!
31 May 2012, 20:55 pm
@hermanWP(hermanWP)-33: Oh ok. Thought you were someone I know.
Coetzee is ‘n goeie coach imo. He knows how to coach a winning team. I just think the pressure of winning at all cost has robbed him of the ability to coach a team that can score tries. Nienaber is doing a fantastic job, but not sure if Fleck is the answer. Stormers run on with a defensive mindset, and that is hard to change when opportunities to score present themselves.
31 May 2012, 21:01 pm
Keohane has plugged for a Bulls win this weekend.. that’s it Bulls in hulle moere in.. Bulletjies can pack up shop and stay home Saturday. no need to trek to Loftus cause Stormers are coming home with a win.. guaranteed.
Too bad Bulletjies Keohane has set the stage for you okies.. and it ain’t a good one.. Stormers are coming home with a win.
As Bulls vir Pollard klaar bespreek en gekoop het.. ne’ soos Sadie en Engelbrecht en Hougaard en wieookal .. dan is dit kaksleg beheer in die saak van Stormers se afwesige amptenaars .. dit is n uitaardige fokop van n tragedie die.
31 May 2012, 21:04 pm
@hermanWP(hermanWP)-35: Cant argue against that. With all the talent available in the Cape it is hard to understand why the Stormers should ever be in a position where they have to rely on unknown foreign players at this stage of the competition.
WP moet gaan sit en mooi kyk na hulle kort, medium, en lang termyn beplanning. Om nou te wen is belangrik, maar hulle sal moet kyk dat hulle ‘n plan het om kompetisies te wen oor drie, vyf, en tien jaar.
I thought Rassie was someone that would build a great team, but he is too jeukerig – always looking for something else to do,.
1 Jun 2012, 05:20 am
@The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food(The Sharks rugby pedigree is packaged as dog food)-17: He hates them. Always criticises players of colour! Its utterly disgraceful!
1 Jun 2012, 05:49 am
i see that the nzru has decided to add the name “all blacks” to new zealands sevens and maori teams in order to make money.
cheap commercialism methinks
1 Jun 2012, 05:58 am
Stormers may have injuries but I’ll back them against any team – win or farking lose! Hit these Bulls hard. Open up a can of whiplash and make it feel like one major jetlag orgy! STOOOOOOOOORMEEEEEEEEEEERS!!!!!!!
1 Jun 2012, 06:06 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-40:
We are world champions in 15′s, 7′s, under 20′s and womans, therefore we rule world rugby across every single level , SA on the other hand don’t have a single trophy , it would appear the NZRFU know a little more about the game than you do.
1 Jun 2012, 06:12 am
@Fern is not a stud,he is merely no19(Fern)-40:
Why is it cheap commercialism? NZRFU and Nz rugby public do not want the All Blacks jersey decked out with sponsors unlike the Springbok jersey.If they can get away with getting sponsorship for the sevens and Nz Maori jersey and opening up another revenue stream , can’t see anything wrong with that ,aye Fernly.
1 Jun 2012, 06:27 am
@Te Rangatira(Te Rangatira)-43:
Fernly likes the wind up nothing more nothing less, he dreams of SA having competent rugby administrators and a full trophy cabinet.
1 Jun 2012, 06:36 am
@NZINCHINA(NZINCHINA)-44:
Yeah I know, he luvs the wind-up, but thats all good, at least hes not posting about some poor Chinese racial abuse victim.
1 Jun 2012, 07:08 am
Robzim and Big Jack are making sense in the real world of rugby.
1 Jun 2012, 07:17 am
Can the keewees tell me how the rebuild in Christchurch is going.
Are there also going to be a volunteer angle to it?
1 Jun 2012, 07:18 am
nzinchina how is that hot asian milf of yours keeping?
1 Jun 2012, 08:21 am
Leave people’s families and partners out of your filth.
1 Jun 2012, 08:23 am
Dawn you have been scarce
Ready for another loss this weekend
Bwhaha!
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