No Du Preez, Brussow for Boks
3 Jun 2012
Fourie du Preez and Heinrich Brussow were the big omissions from the 32-man Springbok squad to face England in the June Test series.
It was believed that Japan-based scrumhalf Du Preez was informally offered the team captaincy last week from head coach Heyneke Meyer. However, it seems as if the player has made himself unavailable for selection as he’s been left out of the squad. Eighthman Pierre Spies and centre Jean de Villiers should be front-runners for the captaincy.
Cheetahs openside flank Brussow is also a major omission from Meyer’s first official Test squad. His high penalty count this year is a probable reason for his exclusion. Stormers duo Juan de Jongh and Gio Aplon can count themselves unlucky as they were overlooked.
Stormers flank Siya Kolisi was not picked. However, he and six other young players – flank Arno Botha (Bulls), prop Frans Malherbe (Stormers), flank CJ Stander (Bulls), centre Francois Venter (Bulls) and scrumhalf Piet van Zyl (Cheetahs) – will train with the Boks during the series. This will allow these players to gain experience in the Test set-up, but they won’t be eligible for selection.
There are nine uncapped players in the squad – flank Marcell Coetzee, wing JJ Engelbrecht, lock Eben Etzebeth, flyhalf Elton Jantjies, lock Juandré Kruger, prop Coenie Oosthuizen, flank Jacques Potgieter, lock Franco van der Merwe and scrumhalf Jano Vermaak.
There are 15 survivours from of the 2011 Bok World Cup squad. Wing Bryan Hanbana is the most experienced player with 74 Test caps.
‘We were always looking to start the season with an experienced squad to face England, but injuries to certain players and the non-availability of others have made it difficult,’ said Meyer.
‘What we’ve lost in experience, we’ve made up in passion and desire to play for the Springboks. We have put together a squad with a nice balance between a number of veterans and players with less experience as we start to build for the rest of the season.
‘Working with these players during our four planning camps this season has been great and really made a very difficult selection process a bit easier. There were a few unlucky players that didn’t make it and they will get opportunities in future as long as they keep on knocking on the door.
‘The nine uncapped players have all put up their hands during Super Rugby this year and we know they have what it takes to succeed at the highest level,’ he continued. ‘We realise that it is impossible to please everyone when it comes to selecting squads like these, but we would really like to see the entire country stand behind us as we take on England.’
Springbok 32-man squad for June Test series:
Backs – Bjorn Basson, Jean de Villiers, JJ Engelbrecht, Bryan Habana, Francois Hougaard, Elton Jantjies, Zane Kirchner, Patrick Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo, Wynand Olivier, Ruan Pienaar, JP Pietersen, Frans Steyn, Morne Steyn, Jano Vermaak.
Forwards – Willem Alberts, Marcell Coetzee, Keegan Daniel, Bismarck du Plessis, Jannie du Plessis, Eben Etzebeth, Ryan Kankowski, Juandre Kruger, Werner Kruger, Beast Mtawarira, Coenie Oosthuizen, Jacques Potgieter, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Pierre Spies, Adriaan Strauss, Flip van der Merwe, Franco van der Merwe.
1,463 Comments
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3 Jun 2012, 19:19 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-1188:
The odds would frankly be cr*p !!
I think we will be lucky to win one game!!
3 Jun 2012, 19:20 pm
@danuk(danuk)-1197: exactly
3 Jun 2012, 19:20 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-1196:
You misunderstood, the ladies are having a conversation within a conversation. Inception-level stuff, let’s stick to our toys and rugby.
3 Jun 2012, 19:21 pm
@carol(carol)-1201:
2 to 1
Bet 100 K and yoru sure to win big still lol
3 Jun 2012, 19:22 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1182:
That’s a bit of a stretch as we didn’t play against the ABs for years, due to isolation.
You misunderstand my motives though, which is not political, but a genuine desire to see the Boks as the top side in world rugby.
We live in a different world and our players are far more cosmopolitan than before. However good a coach HM is at regional level, I have my doubts about what I perceive as a patriachal approach based on outdated values.
3 Jun 2012, 19:22 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1203:
ok thats good I will stick to rugby
3 Jun 2012, 19:23 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1200:
Translation:
She means, “Ag moenie worrie nie gesiggie, dit sal als gou verby en vergete wees. Koekie?”
3 Jun 2012, 19:25 pm
@carol(carol)-1201:
So how are things my dear?
You doing ok?
You coming to SA to watch any of the games?
3 Jun 2012, 19:25 pm
@David(David)-1205:
Isolation came years later.
And “patriarchal approach”? :s
What outdated values?
3 Jun 2012, 19:26 pm
I really Hope Jauque Pottie starts at 7 in the first test. Alberts will be good on the bench. Pottie is the business imo.
3 Jun 2012, 19:27 pm
u think keo snorted his coke or smoked it out of a crack pipe.
3 Jun 2012, 19:28 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-1210:
I think thats the plan
You know I dont have a problem with a fit potgieter at 7 He gives 200% and is very agressive and excellent work load
I just hope he is 100 % fit
3 Jun 2012, 19:29 pm
cmon start a thread on keo’s cocaine addiction im sure it will get a few hits
3 Jun 2012, 19:29 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1200:
Well as you ask so nicely I was congratulating the boys and Dawn for not feasting on the Cocaine/Keo story!! As I say, *** and drugs, hardly anything new!! But…the other point
Speaking as a European woman I was delighted to think the women were going to be invited onto Keo TV but you know what,I found the floor to face shot of you on the first broadcast and the lascivious comments to be very archaic and rather disturbing!
It made me wonder if this was normal behaviour in South Africa or if it was Keo having fun!!
3 Jun 2012, 19:29 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-1210:
nah, I dont rate Jacques Potgieter all that much, would rather give CJ or Coetzee a go to be honest.
3 Jun 2012, 19:32 pm
@carol(carol)-1214:
Intriguing behaviour indeed.
You know, I am an amateur behavioral psychologist, could I please have a link to the video….for research purposes.
And being South African myself, perhaps I could shed some light on the matter for you.
3 Jun 2012, 19:33 pm
@CoachPete(CoachPete)-1208:
Things are great actually thanks, sadly not due in SA until next March, so no Bok rugby for me.
Wondering if the Boks will be doing an EOYT over here, if so I would not see them play until this Autumn here!
Summer in the US treating you well?
3 Jun 2012, 19:37 pm
@carol(carol)-1214:
Your opinion is appreciated. Was it normal, probably not. Was it meant to attract comments – in hindsight yes. Does the camera determine the person I am. No! Do people have the right to paint me with same brush. No. Am I responding to comments made in jest – no. There is a fine line between truth and lines. One is sniffed at! Decide which one. I guess males will find this hard to understand, but I’m sure you would take the time to decipher it.
3 Jun 2012, 19:37 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1216:
Watch Keo TV…
Nikita is terribly pretty and easier to understand than Ryan!!
Not sure what Lucy’s role at Keo Towers is!
However she is considered to be very decorative!
3 Jun 2012, 19:37 pm
Bok rugby produces the finest ’7′ FLANKS. Gert Smal; Jean Smith; Teuns Stoffberg; Danie Roussouw; Vermeulen etc.
A big fast’ tall (he fits the bill here) lineout option; big tackler; strong ball carrier mean and nasty type. I do not think he will play a back-up role. He will be central. His physicality is huge, even by Saffa standards.
This kind of player is crucial to the blend of loosies good bok packs need.
3 Jun 2012, 19:38 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1218:
ouch, I don’t think I will ever recover from that.
3 Jun 2012, 19:39 pm
NIKITA,
Confused, you present yourself in a very interesting way, and now you are unhappy about it?? have I got this right? you choose to be on KEO tv, or not?
3 Jun 2012, 19:40 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1215:
Don’t know if it’s just me but Jacque Potgieter seems to have suspect hands. I also prefer CJ and he’ll get an opportunity in due course. At least he knows the coach is looking at him. But next Sat, the run-on loosies will look like this, I reckon:
8 Spies
7 Alberts
6 Marcel Coetzee or maybe Daniel – who’s been around longer.
He’s not going to be dishing out too many first caps initially and will rely on the more experienced guys.
3 Jun 2012, 19:40 pm
@carol(carol)-1219:
Great, so now we’ve got a “terribly pretty” girl AND an impossibly beautiful girl.
It’s almost impossible to say how terrified I am of speculating.
3 Jun 2012, 19:40 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1209:
I meant that your allusion to post ’94 as the reason for the the ABs becoming dominant didn’t take into account that we hadn’t played them for years.
In fact, if you remember, the ’95 RWC ABs were considered a break from traditional AB rugby. Although they lost, that change to a more expansive approach signalled the birth of the current AB game which has dominated world rugby ever since.
3 Jun 2012, 19:42 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-1220:
You forgot Andre’ Venter.
3 Jun 2012, 19:42 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-1222:
Not unhappy at all. We all make decisions on the spur of the moment. Some are good decisions, others are just decisions.
3 Jun 2012, 19:42 pm
Ag what’s the hooha about so he snorted cocaine – not as tho anyone’s dead – if someone wants to smoke paraffin or put a pinapple up their *** who really cares if it’s not affecting anyone else
3 Jun 2012, 19:43 pm
@hensopper1(hensopper1)-1222:
Maybe being in front of the camera is safer at HSM than behind the curtains, just sayin’.
can’t blame the poor girl.
3 Jun 2012, 19:44 pm
@roobarb2(roobarb2)-1086: couldnt agree more with you but based on working combos and Bulls players playing together and past bok experience I doubt he will start with Etzebeth. Think he´s start Flip and blood Etzebeth as a sub. I would start him myself and dont rate Flip much – but think thats the way HM will play it. I think he could have included De Kock Steenkamp as well as an option for lock – he´s been solid. Franco plays well but makes some horrible stuff ups sometimes but doubt he will play unless theres an injury.
3 Jun 2012, 19:44 pm
I was on record when HM was selected as Springbok coach that I thought him a good coach BUT that I was concerned that he was too Bulls-centric, being in the set-up for so long.
The Tacitus’ and co of this blog were very indignant and spoke of his “gravitas” and other imagined qualities yadda yadda.
I said I would reserve judgement, but I must say, he’s starting off on a very bad footing.
3 Stormers out of 32.
A disgrace.
There’s no other way to put it.
I don’t care if the Springboks win, not like this. Sorry.
3 Jun 2012, 19:46 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1218:
Look, Keo found an attractive intelligent girl to talk rugby and chose to present her in a very unsophistocated way!
I thought Keo’s empire was a little more forward thinking!
3 Jun 2012, 19:46 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-1223:
Yes, I agree.
We will see in the very first test how the deck is set. But Stegmann might come into HM’s plans after July.
@David(David)-1225:
That doesn’t necessarily invalidate what I said.
3 Jun 2012, 19:46 pm
why **** is Lambie in the squad he isnt the best in anything he does average player on his best day.
aplon better runner and defender
clown a better defender
joe pietersen better allround player and these r only the fullbacks
Lambie 4th best flyhalf as well
3 Jun 2012, 19:47 pm
All very facinating….Now I have a Jubilee Party to organise!!
Have a great evening all.
3 Jun 2012, 19:48 pm
@cab(cab)-1228:
Is that a liquidized or a whole pineapple?
depending on the answer, that could mean a lot of money on Youtube these days.
You need an agent, may I recommend someone?
3 Jun 2012, 19:50 pm
Why are the ladies brawling here.
It is so unbecoming!
3 Jun 2012, 19:52 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-1231:
oooo, ok let’s do roll-call of all the WP players that didn’t make it, I’m too lazy to go through a thousand comments again.
3 Jun 2012, 19:52 pm
@stormersboy(stormersboy)-1231:
Bekker, Schalk and Duane will all eventually come into the mix.
And Kolisi is still part of the enlarged training squad.
But the 2 players who can feel justifiably aggrieved are Juan and Aplon.
His team will take time to evolve. And some, unfortunately, will fall off the bus if they’re unable to make the step up.
We just require a bit of patience. At the end of the day, it is Heyneke’s neck on the line.
3 Jun 2012, 19:53 pm
@carol(carol)-1235:
Goodnight ma’am
3 Jun 2012, 19:53 pm
Agile Titty
had a mate who used to work in er and fished out a pineapple, snooker ball and a snorkel – some funny **** – who really cares.
Ps I see no stegman – u must be furious at this injustice.
3 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
Nikita, you can’t complain if you sexualize yourself on Keo TV and then get judged for it.
Sadly you set yourself up for that one. I’m sure you are a very intelligent woman and all that, we all wear different hats in life. The problem is the one that you display.
The only contact we have had with you is a fairly brief introduction on Keo TV with the boots and all that, you haven’t written any articles or anything so unfortunately that is the sum total of our experience with you, some playful banter aside.
Now with the Keo harassment angle, you will come squarely into the spotlight and giving cryptic references will not help. Either come out in his defense and say that you had no experience of any of that or remain silent until an official statement is made by HSM. Anything else and you are just feeding the fire I’m afraid.
The only thing I am really interested in is:
Was Monty one of the complainers???
Just nod if you can’t say anything……
3 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
Maak al die Bulle Bokke
3 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
@Agile T*t-Tyrant(Anairetes agilis)-1233:
I suggest that Steggie give Brussow a call. They’ll have plenty to talk about as they consider HM’s future plans re fetchers.
3 Jun 2012, 19:56 pm
@cab(cab)-1241:
he’s injured, broke an arm and played for quarter of an hour before they had to call security to remove him from the field, was a real riot, didn’t you see the game?
3 Jun 2012, 19:57 pm
Good night, God bless and tonight was my last night. I’ve enjoyed my time but all good things have to come to an end. Best I end on a HIGH!
3 Jun 2012, 19:59 pm
@IAAS(I am a stormer)-1244:
Only Heyneke Meyer himself brought Stegmann over from Grey, and not Brussow.
HM also said that Steggies shoudl carry more, and that is exactly what happened right from the start of this season, and unfortunately he got injured, it happens
and now tell me, what do you think is going on behind the scenes.
Stegmann is a better ball carrier than Brussowtjie anyway, was his 8th man and go-to guy when they still played together, and he might just make the team in August.
So in short; nope.
3 Jun 2012, 20:01 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1246:
Wait, not a high, poor choice of words, unless…..
3 Jun 2012, 20:01 pm
@Nikita(Nikita)-1246: Godspeed. Nikita, and good luck.
3 Jun 2012, 20:01 pm
@wp_boytjie(wp_boytjie)-1243:
*Maak die Bulle almal Bokke
request approved.
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